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| wow, so much information this episode. what makes me more curious than the "memories get lost when a character dies" thing is that the world of elder tale already existed before the game went online.. this could get really interesting |
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IWBFHTYML said: So basically 0 world spell: Creation of the game 1st World Spell Monsters are added in the creation op class in the game removed lol 2nd World Spell Open beta 3rd World Spell Apocalypse 4th world spell Involves the memory that most of the adventurer lost whenever they die |
silverwalls said: wow, so much information this episode. what makes me more curious than the "memories get lost when a character dies" thing is that the world of elder tale already existed before the game went online.. this could get really interesting Yeah, this is the ongoing theory. Which is why people think it's a Parallel world, and somehow the Game Creators were given visions to make the game or something hahaha. ricardo241 said: IWBFHTYML said: So basically 0 world spell: Creation of the game 1st World Spell Monsters are added in the creation op class in the game removed lol 2nd World Spell Open beta 3rd World Spell Apocalypse 4th world spell Involves the memory that most of the adventurer lost whenever they die Maybe their Memories will get transported back to the real world and recreated. ALA Steins;Gate? :D Their Elder Tale Bodies will remain though as People of the Land. :o |
Riez said: Are you perhaps expecting a real world scientific explanation behind the Apocalypse such as something similar to the Virtual Reality in SAO? If anything, most people would expect a dimension warp similar to many adventure games/anime/manga where a person in the real world is transported to a fantasy world (eg. Zero no Tsukaima, etc.).Lmao , he get sucked by the monitor that's one major bullshit. |
| Nice info this episode. Ugh they lose their memories, not pleasant at all. |
NettoAzure said: Why a parallel world? I see it more plausible as a fictional world, a universe of lower dimension born from the minds of its creators. And it so happens that a magic (world-class) capable of even affecting the real world existed (World Fraction). At the very least, it is not possible to be a future of a parallel world with all the game concepts (menus, etc.).silverwalls said: wow, so much information this episode. what makes me more curious than the "memories get lost when a character dies" thing is that the world of elder tale already existed before the game went online.. this could get really interesting Yeah, this is the ongoing theory. Which is why people think it's a Parallel world, and somehow the Game Creators were given visions to make the game or something hahaha. ricardo241 said: IWBFHTYML said: So basically 0 world spell: Creation of the game 1st World Spell Monsters are added in the creation op class in the game removed lol 2nd World Spell Open beta 3rd World Spell Apocalypse 4th world spell Involves the memory that most of the adventurer lost whenever they die Maybe their Memories will get transported back to the real world and recreated. ALA Steins;Gate? :D |
| Its because the game lore is that this world was essentially OUR WORLD. (See how Regan mentions a Time more glorious than the one where the 4 races lived together?) See all of the rusted cars and Modern skyscrapers in Akiba? Still, I think your "fictional world" idea is just another conception of a parallel world to be honest. |
VerneJules said: Riez said: Are you perhaps expecting a real world scientific explanation behind the Apocalypse such as something similar to the Virtual Reality in SAO? If anything, most people would expect a dimension warp similar to many adventure games/anime/manga where a person in the real world is transported to a fantasy world (eg. Zero no Tsukaima, etc.).Lmao , he get sucked by the monitor that's one major bullshit. I was just saying and it would be okay if there's an explanation. Or would I say , I would rather have a light or a whirlpool sucking me into another dimension instead of a monitor. It would make much more "magic"-ier. Welp , that's my opinion. |
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NettoAzure said: Well, I suppose our own laws cannot apply to a different universe so I guess it's fine to say that the menus themselves, etc. are simply part of their world's laws. Still, I'd rather believe it that the creators really designed the game rather than had visions of another world.Its because the game lore is that this world was essentially OUR WORLD. (See how Regan mentions a Time more glorious than the one where the 4 races lived together?) See all of the rusted cars and Modern skyscrapers in Akiba? Still, I think your "fictional world" idea is just another conception of a parallel world to be honest. |
NettoAzure said: Maybe their Memories will get transported back to the real world and recreated. ALA Steins;Gate? :D Their Elder Tale Bodies will remain though as People of the Land. :o Impossible lol But remember the thing about the 1st world fraction(the rise of demi-human) ;p |
| I'm somehow guessing that from the Creation of Elder Tale to the Open Beta was the initial designing/programming phase for the game or something. I just somehow get the feeling that the whole thing was engineered by the game creators. At least there's finally some insight into the Apocalypse. Finally it's gonna be time for Minori to slap some sense into the guys and clear that dungeon. |
SkyTateJan 4, 2014 8:00 AM
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VerneJules said: Well, I suppose our own laws cannot apply to a different universe so I guess it's fine to say that the menus themselves, etc. are simply part of their world's laws. Still, I'd rather believe it that the creators really designed the game rather than had visions of another world That's perfectly fine. No one really knows what is the story behind the game's creators. It could be anything and I was just throwing out one possibility. |
but then the penalty of them losing their memories wouldn't make sense if there's an upside to it. D: |
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SkyTate said: Finally it's gonna be time for Minori to slap some sense into the guys and clear that dungeon. Yeah, finally, I was growing a bit tired of this side of the story. Lots of talk, definitely not what I expected from the anime ( i thought it would be more action based ) but still very nice. Not sure why shiroe would hide the information about the loss of memory though |
IWBFHTYML said: but then the penalty of them losing their memories wouldn't make sense if there's an upside to it. D: It's just a random theory. And who said you can't have an upside to them losing their memories? It could be part of the mechanism on how they get back to their world. (Not that I'd test it out thats for sure) Also this is the end of the exposition. The next 5-6 episodes will be fillied with pure action and mob killing LOL. |
| So much information in this ep. But very nice graphics there. |
Barion-Zara said: Awesome episode. Loved the back story setting of the Elder tale world. How the Apocalypse is actually something written in the history of the game and how 20 yrs = 240 yrs which was the second world fraction was really interesting as well. The thing about Alvs and Demi-humans...etc was really awesome. Lol'd at Shiro being a Half Alv which means in the game setting he'd probably be a slaves son XD Lol'd so much at Akatsuki's reaction to Shiroe being an Archmage and being active for 98 yrs hahahaha. Her face was really cute <3 Found the Psyche and Anima and what happens after death intriguing too. Really awesome writing there. The ending was nice. Good to see that Rudy isn't just some snob and he actually spends some effort. Can't bring myself to dislike him. Some vibes between him and Isuzu there. And I actually found them to be a good couple <3 Minori is finally gonna say what's in mind. I wonder if all this memory loss explanation is a foreshadowing for what will happen to Rudy when he dies in this dungeon??? (Not a spoiler since it's in the OP and flags are rising so it's obvious)...Well I'm interested. Can't wait to see what happens nxt. ^ This Some much info. Yep, LOL at Akatsuki's reaction to when he says Shiroe is 98 years old. Minori! Finally taking the initiative. Nicely done episode :D |
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Mithestral said: Lots of talk, definitely not what I expected from the anime ( i thought it would be more action based ) but still very nice. Not sure why shiroe would hide the information about the loss of memory though Lots of talking cause they are still trying to learn anything they can about this world(in order to do that they need a good reputation so people from the elder will trust them)<-first phase Main reason is to avoid chaos/panic |
I would prefer something bigger than that tho :P |
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| Well I think the info dump in this episode is more than enough for something big. And to be honest this is the extent of the information about the world available even to Light Novel readers. The rest of the series is all action and politics at this point forward. Hence why this and the last episode was my favorite so far in the series. Also anyone noticed how Rudy was a "Sorcerer" using the Lander Userbar while Isuzu was an "Adventurer?" ;) http://i.imgur.com/bs6dcFu.png |
IWBFHTYML said: I would prefer something bigger than that tho :P Oh it will be rather big I also do not think they was sucked in through a monitor, they was just next to their computers installing an updated and vanished appearing in this world, not sucked into anything really, just went poof like teleportation. One thing it is much different then just a game anymore, we don't really know what it is, but the people of the land don't seem like just AI anymore. |
| That whole resurrection business is kind of scary. So, one loses a few memories when they resurrect. What about the Adventurers that have been resurrected more than once? What state are their memories in? I'm not so sure Shiroe should temporarily keep this a secret from the others. Sent with Mal Updater |
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| Got to learn a little back story of Elder Tale. So you lose your memories if you die. Can't wait for the next episode. |
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| Why is Isuzu an Adventurer while Rundel Haus is a Sorcerer on their game info? Shouldn't be Isuzu a Bard? There's something weird here. Here's the image: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/594/s5cf.png/ |
| Well that was a nice history lesson with a twist (pretty sure its not the last one ) ;) i really liked the explanation for xp loss and the whole psyche-anima theory. very good episode. |
| Epic explanations this episode. I din't mind it at all because this ep pumped out a lot of important info. I knew dying without any major damage done to the person is bullsh8t Isuzu x Rudy= Whats that over there by the sea? It's a ship! the OTP ship! On that note you really can't bring yourself to hate Rudy at all xD. As much as the guy shows off, he really does put in a lot of effort. |
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xchee said: Interesting how the first world fraction happened even before the adventurers were introduced into the game. So that means it happened while the game was still in development. Well it seems like world fraction happens when something major is added into the game. If we're to look at it from a gamer's perspective, the story of the six bent princesses could just be some back-story to introduce new monsters (demi-humans), the second was the open beta and the third is the major expansion. Huh. Agreed here. It's getting really interesting. So I guess there are adventurers out there who are 200 years old (playing since beta). Hmm. The Apocalypse is an interesting case then. I guess somehow the minds of players irl were transferred to their characters. I doubt their body was merged with their playing character, but I could be wrong. Interesting because it doesn't seem to be a full body immersion virtual reality (like in 1/2 Prince and Yureka), but the kind of gaming that we have now. Wonder how the story will develop from here. |
MirorinJan 4, 2014 9:25 AM
| Wow, not that they die, and spawned in a different location as a happy joy, but they lose EXP and their memories for getting killed in the process... Well it is better not getting killed in game and in real life, but it won't be a good thing if they lost all their memories. Some great information in regards of this World Fraction, but kind of hard to understand it tbh. Ah well next episode should be good. |
ricardo241 said: Mithestral said: Lots of talk, definitely not what I expected from the anime ( i thought it would be more action based ) but still very nice. Not sure why shiroe would hide the information about the loss of memory though Lots of talking cause they are still trying to learn anything they can about this world(in order to do that they need a good reputation so people from the elder will trust them)<-first phase Main reason is to avoid chaos/panic Yeah but pop a character just to explain everything is a bit easy. Hope he'll do more in future episodes. There is for me a difference between hiding it from the whole population and hiding it from the council ( or whatever name it has ), seems a risky move to me, shiroe might be blamed later for not sharing the info |
| the price of immortality is loss of memory...eventually becoming a person of the land. what is interesting is that the creation of this game essentially meant the creation of a new world which can interact with reality. the implication of this is quite astounding. the game you play may be real after all hahahaha. |
Madcat6204 said: No. Isuzu's information is displayed correctly. If you were to look at Shiroe, Akatsuki, Naotsugu, Minori, Tohya, Serara, or any of the other adventurers, their information in that box would display exactly the same way Isuzu's did: Name / Adventurer. It is Rudy that is the anomaly. Character class is displayed in a different location. Now it makes sense he dead in the opening. |
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| Finally the airing episodes are back, was beginning to miss them. Anyway pretty good episode, good that magic mechanics was explained well. Good on shrine maiden girl for speaking up. |
Madcat6204 said: I already answered my own question when I rewatched the episode where that level 90 Monk was defeated in Susukino and he wanted to remember Shiroe's name. In the screen he saw Shiroe/Adventurer in his user info. So yeah, you know the rest. xDDDenjaX said: Why is Isuzu an Adventurer while Rundel Haus is a Sorcerer on their game info? Shouldn't be Isuzu a Bard? There's something weird here. Here's the image: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/594/s5cf.png/ No. Isuzu's information is displayed correctly. If you were to look at Shiroe, Akatsuki, Naotsugu, Minori, Tohya, Serara, or any of the other adventurers, their information in that box would display exactly the same way Isuzu's did: Name / Adventurer. It is Rudy that is the anomaly. Character class is displayed in a different location. Thanks for confirming it. I think I already got an idea what's going on here. I'm going to check the introductions again for other characters. There might be others. |
DenjaXJan 4, 2014 10:39 AM
| What if what adventurers believe to be the real world is only the result of a world fraction? What if the Elder Tale world is the real world? |
MarenwynnJan 4, 2014 12:12 PM
| Lovely info dump this episode, very well thought out world building by the writer. I like that Rudy actually puts in effort, despite his demeanor haha. Can't wait for the future episodes :D |
| The memory loss is pretty harsh. Sounds like someone's plan to integrate the adventures into the game after they die enough times to forget about the real world. |
| so no real development but at least we got a lot of backstory this time around :-) knowing that you can now lose memories when you die raises the stakes a lot >< that sage also interests me a lot holy crap haha. world magic sounds too awesome *_* |
Nasty001 said: So, being revived at the cathedral also come with losing one's memory, just like a Hindu belief that a person who gets reincarnated will have no memories of his previous life. Only that they likely lose just a litle bit each time, not enough to be noticable, which makes it even more scary. |
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IWBFHTYML said: So basically 0 world spell: Creation of the game 1st World Spell Monsters are added in the creation op class in the game removed lol 2nd World Spell Open beta 3rd World Spell Apocalypse Yeah, I actually lol'd reading that. And I'm tempted to believe Precursors were alpha testers or characters the developers played with. |
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| just a hypothesis but are world class spells just expansions or major patches? lol |
| hehe, as some might noticed a big twist in the future in coming :P nice to see them to animate and decently hinting it |
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| So much explanation :O It really changes things quite a bit. I love the way this anime immerses you, it makes me feel like I'm playing it. |
| I can't believe they would use the gaming schematics such as HP, MP, and EXP into such an elaborated plot device, where they would start using death as a way of losing memories! My goodness. Really creative. I really can't wait to see precursors, probably they are beta testers, or either game masters! I can't wait for them to encounter a game master, since they sure would have more information. And Rudy is a People of the Land? No way. |
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| wow thats the first time ive ever seen any game try to rationalize how deaths/resurrection works. pretty damn cool. |
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