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tsudecimo said: ^ I was one of those who got fooled by the title :/ And yeah, I thought of this right after I read your post in Mugi's comment box. The title can be pretty confusing to someone that is not familiar with visual novel stuff. |
dataznguy4 said: pkKodama said: Are you kidding me...? You CAN'T compare a japanese character with a stupid british/american book. That's ridiculous and just mean you're not into anime yet. I've been watching anime since the Doraemon and Dragon Quest era. The fact that you would hold a Japanese character so highly over others make you look like a weaboo :) But each to his own preference I guess. But back to topic, does anyone know who Kaiki's first love is ? Someone said that it was Kanbaru's mother a few page back but not sure if this is correct. Can anyone verify this ? The fact you're using the term "weaboo" means you're a low life :3 ihusmal1234 said: pkKodama said: Are you kidding me...? You CAN'T compare a japanese character with a stupid british/american book. That's ridiculous and just mean you're not into anime yet. I don't really care about the whole entire snape/kaiki argument or the harry potter insult. But the fact that you quickly dismissed other sources of entertainment from different countries and quickly claimed that japanese animated entertainment is superior, specifically as you stated, in the character department is ignorant bro. Sure, it's not like I've read every book to be able to judge all of them and call them stupid. But if you take the big mass of anime/manga, you see that they are superior making british books look stupid. And anyways for him to make such a comparison means he's not into anime. Even if Harry Potter might have it's own kind of quality, that has nothing to do with this forum that's about anime/manga/LN(?). And there are so many other characters who look like Kaiki, so many voiced by Shinichirō Miki, that citing "Snape" is an insult to the whole series. Emnay said: pkKodama said: weaboo confirmedAre you kidding me...? You CAN'T compare a japanese character with a stupid british/american book. That's ridiculous and just mean you're not into anime yet. I don't mind these childish insults. |
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pkKodama said: Sure, it's not like I've read every book to be able to judge all of them and call them stupid. But if you take the big mass of anime/manga, you see that they are superior making british books look stupid. And anyways for him to make such a comparison means he's not into anime. Even if Harry Potter might have it's own kind of quality, that has nothing to do with this forum that's about anime/manga/LN(?). And there are so many other characters who look like Kaiki, so many voiced by Shinichirō Miki, that citing "Snape" is an insult to the whole series. It's pretty childish to dismiss every single British book as inferior to anime just because you like anime more. Arthur Conan Doyle, J.R.R Tolkein, and George Orwell are all British. So I'm sorry, but calling some of the greatest detective novels, fantasies, and allegories inferior to all anime is extremely prejudiced. I mean, half the anime out there are "Look at me I'm a harem master everyone wants my dick even though I did nothing to deserve it." The point I'm trying to make here is that all books have merit, and it's not the medium by which the show is told that gauges its greatness, but the content of said books. |
Selsica said: pkKodama said: Sure, it's not like I've read every book to be able to judge all of them and call them stupid. But if you take the big mass of anime/manga, you see that they are superior making british books look stupid. And anyways for him to make such a comparison means he's not into anime. Even if Harry Potter might have it's own kind of quality, that has nothing to do with this forum that's about anime/manga/LN(?). And there are so many other characters who look like Kaiki, so many voiced by Shinichirō Miki, that citing "Snape" is an insult to the whole series. It's pretty childish to dismiss every single British book as inferior to anime just because you like anime more. Arthur Conan Doyle, J.R.R Tolkein, and George Orwell are all British. So I'm sorry, but calling some of the greatest detective novels, fantasies, and allegories inferior to all anime is extremely prejudiced. I mean, half the anime out there are "Look at me I'm a harem master everyone wants my dick even though I did nothing to deserve it." The point I'm trying to make here is that all books have merit, and it's not the medium by which the show is told that gauges its greatness, but the content of said books. Don't feed the obvious troll. |
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DawnJ said: Selsica said: pkKodama said: Sure, it's not like I've read every book to be able to judge all of them and call them stupid. But if you take the big mass of anime/manga, you see that they are superior making british books look stupid. And anyways for him to make such a comparison means he's not into anime. Even if Harry Potter might have it's own kind of quality, that has nothing to do with this forum that's about anime/manga/LN(?). And there are so many other characters who look like Kaiki, so many voiced by Shinichirō Miki, that citing "Snape" is an insult to the whole series. It's pretty childish to dismiss every single British book as inferior to anime just because you like anime more. Arthur Conan Doyle, J.R.R Tolkein, and George Orwell are all British. So I'm sorry, but calling some of the greatest detective novels, fantasies, and allegories inferior to all anime is extremely prejudiced. I mean, half the anime out there are "Look at me I'm a harem master everyone wants my dick even though I did nothing to deserve it." The point I'm trying to make here is that all books have merit, and it's not the medium by which the show is told that gauges its greatness, but the content of said books. Don't feed the obvious troll. If that's all you can use your comment for, just calling me a "troll" to follow the flow and look "cool" without any kind of argument, then you should just be quiet, your comment is invalid. @Selsica 1)Read my comment again please, I never said "inferior to all anime", there are good and bad animes, and the same for books. But most animes are better than most books. And if you take a masterpiece like Hunter x Hunter or One Piece for example there's no way a book can be better, the level of complexity is far above. And sure you can say it's just my opinion and people have their own. But the problem is that in MOST cases people say books are better and never tried to read a manga thinking it's for kids. And most who do don't even try to understand japanese language and live relying on stupid translations. And before someone says something, I do read books every day for language studies, and they look just boring. 2)Half the anime out there are harem? Nope. Yes there are lots of harem anime with only 12-14 episodes that are basically the same crap. But their number is nothing compared to the number of awesome anime that exist. When you generalize like that you're just showing your lack of knowledge about the matter. |
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pkKodama said: Take this shit to PM's or comment on each others profile. No one wants to read your giant paragraphs of weabooness |
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| FUCK OUGI!! %#$%$ 10/10 |
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| I don't know if it's just the mental state I was in while watching it, but this last episode left a bad taste in my mouth. That being said... 8/10 |
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| Just when I was getting to like him. This season was pretty good. |
| Just Marathoned the last 14 episodes, another great season of monogatari. 8/10 R.I.P Kaiki |
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| Oh man what a tragic ending for Kaiki !!! |
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| Would it make sense if the reason Shaft won't release Kizumonogatari, is because they are trying to complete the series fully and release the movie after the final season ends? o.o |
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mugi said: Don't you ever badmouth about Shaft! Never!Shaft/Aniplex has no idea of what they're doing. |
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KingIkki said: mugi said: Don't you ever badmouth about Shaft! Never!Shaft/Aniplex has no idea of what they're doing. Shaft has been pretty sloppy this season. |
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| Well, Monogatari Series: Second Season is just amazing just as Bake-, Nise-. You won't find any anime as this one with these deep and meaningfull conservations, the expressive characters and of course the usage of irony. But there are even more reasons for me to say that the whole Monogatari Series is worth seeing. I am very excited about the sequel. And there are some things I want to add to Kaiki: While Senjougahara offered her body to Kaiki, Kaiki just poured his drink over her and clearly this was an act as gentleman. Same as Kaiki met Ononoki the first time in this series and once he told to himself that he somehow is like Araragi. That means Araragi would hurt himself in order to help his friends without hesitation and he wouldn't regret it later on. Kaiki is not identical to Araragi but I think that Kaiki voluntary acts as the bad guy but actually he tries to help people. (Why else would he have destroyed the sect Senjougahara's mum belonged to?) But as you guys know, Kaiki would never admit the fact and THIS is just noble in my eyes. Gentleman. |
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| Sometimes the conversation gets a little confusing.. Why does it seem that Kaiki x Senjougahara are flirting with each other a little too much? I don't read the light novel, certain hints I get was obviously the flirting conversations, Keiko mentioning Senjougahara treating guys she love as first love and Senjougahara mentioning she has no feelings for Keiko 2 years ago. (Feels like a lie) The love part of this series really got me confused at times. Nevertheless still an awesome series with good animation! * I would greatly appreciate if someone who had read the light novel could PM me some insights on Kaiki x Senjougahara saga. Love? Gratitude? What is it? |
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| Best episode of the 2nd season. The moment Kaiki revealed Sengoku secret was epic. To bad my favourite character from the series did not get much screen time. But i think Suruga Kanbaru and Ougi Oshino are the same person somehow. I also think that Ougi Oshino is the killer. As overall i think Baka is still slightly better, but both seasons have things they surpass each other in. |
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| well, i have to admit i'm a bit disappointed. i was waiting/wishing for an epic fight between nadeko and... bascially everyone (hanekawa, araragi, senjougahara, shinobu etc.). i thought nadeko would totally lose it and turn completely crazy and it would just be a bloodbath. the thing is that i like they way they handled the ending. kaiki did a great job because in the end nadeko is just a spoiled little girl and he said the right words and i don't think it's unrealistic how they solved the whole problem. but damn, i still want my badass fighting episode ;__; i can't believe it's over now. i loved the nadeko medusa arc and the mayoi jiangshi arc, but i'm disappointed by the ending of the last arc, ngl. all in all 8/10 for the whole season. |
Benphyre said: Sometimes the conversation gets a little confusing.. Why does it seem that Kaiki x Senjougahara are flirting with each other a little too much? I don't read the light novel, certain hints I get was obviously the flirting conversations, Keiko mentioning Senjougahara treating guys she love as first love and Senjougahara mentioning she has no feelings for Keiko 2 years ago. (Feels like a lie) The love part of this series really got me confused at times. Nevertheless still an awesome series with good animation! * I would greatly appreciate if someone who had read the light novel could PM me some insights on Kaiki x Senjougahara saga. Love? Gratitude? What is it? hpulley said: MisterXX said: She asks if he thought she loved him two years ago and he did. He was not the only one deceiving people. hpulley said: Listen/read again their last conversation... carefully. Well I watched it again.. but I don't know what you are implying... sorry their relationship is very complicated.. She wanted help from him. She may have even been a bit infatuated with him, an older man who was trying to help her. And she really did remind him of someone he loved so he was attracted to her in that way. He really did want to help her, though he has too much pride in what he does to simply help her for nothing. He is not Araragi Koyomi who helps people just to help people. He helps people for money though he isn't even trying as hard as he can to get money, and he really doesn't even value it that highly because he is right: money is the most replaceable thing in the world. It can buy you anything but those anythings are worth more than money because often they are the things you cannot replace, you can buy something like them but not necessarily the thing you had before. Their relationship, again if you call it that, was never more than that. Never kissed, never that much and certainly never anything more than that. She wanted him to think she loved him so he would help her. She reminded him of someone he used to love so he wanted to help her. The way he needed to help her, the real solution he knew she would end up hating him for but he did it anyway because it was the best thing for them but she would never understand it that way so he had to deceive her, make it seem like he was swindling her. That's what Kaiki wants us to believe as he has narrated for himself in Hitagi End anyway. |
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| Bake still being the best imo, but this deserves an 8/10. Had a great time watching it. RIP Kaiki, just when I started to like you T_T |
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| Bake is so overly praised its getting sickening. :/ I marathoned this whole series over a week ago and they all feel the same to me. People need to get over the nostalgic feelings they probably have for the first season. Jeez. |
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| I just wish to know, quickly, who was that guy, who killed Kaiki... And I'm gonna kick his ass.. AAAGH! Just when I started to like Kaiki! D: He like became a good guy!!! |
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Fierce_Deity22 said: Bake sets the base for this anime. With the bunch of main heroines in it and the stories about them. This season is a more evolved plot. Some prefer a base setting, some a more evolved plot. I think both series got things that where better than the other. Personally i think bake is better too, but what minor details are we even discussing about. They are both dam good.Bake is so overly praised its getting sickening. :/ I marathoned this whole series over a week ago and they all feel the same to me. People need to get over the nostalgic feelings they probably have for the first season. Jeez. |
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skudoops said: Fierce_Deity22 said: Bake is so overly praised its getting sickening. :/ I marathoned this whole series over a week ago and they all feel the same to me. People need to get over the nostalgic feelings they probably have for the first season. Jeez. Bake explores the franchises supernatural theme way more than MSSS, MSSS focuses way more on character development rather than the main story of each arc. That is the reason I prefer Bake. You somehow managed to miss the point. Every single arc of the Monogatari franchise is about developing a character. Bake is no exception. |
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| @ FreshOJ It's my fault for clicking the spoiler tag... but dammit, that was one thing I really didn't want spoiled. I figured it was the case anyway though. :/ Anyway, I couldn't help but laugh at the season ending that way. So... instantaneously, it didn't even feel like a cliffhanger, but more like it got cut short, even though it was the actual ending. Not saying I dislike it that way, but it was just kind of amusing to me. Not Kaiki getting beaten to death, but the instant ending. Similar to Game of Thrones S3's ending... except not. But before that shit was getting real. I knew it wasn't going to be a big deal in the closet, reading comments on previous episodes, but damn that was pretty funny when he suddenly dropped the big reveal. It was already hinted that she was an otaku though, so that wasn't too big of a surprise either... interestingly, once I knew it wasn't anything important, I assumed it would be useless, I like how in the end it was what saved him, lol. Emnay said: Honestly the same thought crossed my mind... and I actually thought the voice sounded similar. However it's clearly the boy that cursed Nadeko to begin with, that she turned down in Bakemonogatari, (which Kaiki confirmed) as suggested by the snake wrapped around him. If you recall when they saved Nadeko the first time, one of the snakes got away, and Kanbaru stopped him from running away saying "don't save the wrong person", as it was going after the boy responsible for Nadeko's curse. |
HalibelTheEspadaJan 8, 2014 2:14 AM
| Kaiki :( He's a good guy Somebody put resurrection spell on him!! Like alchem-.. oops it didn't work Ougi obviously is the villain... And maybe Gaen is her informer? Ah... I just sicked this kind of script A bad guy then it's revealed he/she's a good guy afterall And someone just killed them He just didn't deserved it afterall... Maybe he could atone it, like what he did in this arc |
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| Damn, first Hachikuji and then Kiki... Then again I never thought I would ever sympathise with him after seeing him in Bakemonogatari. And where is Oshino? I was hoping to get a glimpse of him as his silhouette was in the 4th Ed. |
Fierce_Deity22 said: Bake is so overly praised its getting sickening. :/ I marathoned this whole series over a week ago and they all feel the same to me. People need to get over the nostalgic feelings they probably have for the first season. Jeez. Yeah it's pretty ridiculous and insufferable isn't it, especially with how obnoxious a lot of it's fanboys are in other anime threads always comparing everything to it unfavorably even when it's just tangential comparisons at best. I've never been able to wrap my head around why so many people are so damn fanatical and obsessive about this franchise and why it's supposed to just be like the absolute greatest thing ever and everything is just apparently shit by comparison. A lot of people make arguments for Hitagi, but I just don't see her as that interesting a character nor one that is even as unique as some people seem to think it is. Even when it has it's rare moments of good dialogue and character drama amidst all the ridiculous pandering and time wasting back and forths, I just can't grasp it and figure it must be a community thing or something. Like Monogatari series gets praised and worshipped as the greatest thing, that's just what people have decided. I also get the impression that worship of Monogatari is seen as like some sort of measuring stick of how hardcore you are as an otaku and that there's a lot of peer pressure and just desire to fit in involved. It kind of reminds me a lot of back when Haruhi was all the rage and I just couldn't wrap my head around why people were so bloody fanatical about it to the point of inducing nausea. Like it's one thing to have a really popular and beloved franchise, but something about the way Monogatari fans act about it reminds me of something I haven't seen since Haruhi. It's the hardest thing for me to understand about anime these days but obviously especially on MAL people have bought into whatever it is they see in this franchise big time. |
PeacingOutJan 8, 2014 3:20 PM
Kaioshin_Sama said: Fierce_Deity22 said: Bake is so overly praised its getting sickening. :/ I marathoned this whole series over a week ago and they all feel the same to me. People need to get over the nostalgic feelings they probably have for the first season. Jeez. Yeah it's pretty ridiculous and insufferable isn't it, especially with how obnoxious a lot of it's fanboys are in other anime threads always comparing everything to it unfavorably even when it's just tangential comparisons at best. I've never been able to wrap my head around why so many people are so damn fanatical and obsessive about this franchise and why it's supposed to just be like the absolute greatest thing ever and everything is just apparently shit by comparison. A lot of people make arguments for Hitagi, but I just don't see her as that interesting a character nor one that is even as unique as some people seem to think it is. Even when it has it's rare moments of good dialogue and character drama amidst all the ridiculous pandering and time wasting back and forths, I just can't grasp it and figure it must be a community thing or something. Like Monogatari series gets praised and worshipped as the greatest thing, that's just what people have decided. I also get the impression that worship of Monogatari is seen as like some sort of measuring stick of how hardcore you are as an otaku and that there's a lot of peer pressure and just desire to fit in involved. It kind of reminds me a lot of back when Haruhi was all the rage and I just couldn't wrap my head around why people were so bloody fanatical about it to the point of inducing nausea. Like it's one thing to have a really popular and beloved franchise, but something about the way Monogatari fans act about it reminds me of something I haven't seen since Haruhi. It's the hardest thing for me to understand about anime these days but obviously especially on MAL people have bought into whatever it is they see in this franchise big time. ya hitagi is alright but the blessing for her is silly. Haruhi oh I remember that show. It was the one with the 7-8 episode REPEAT insta-skip. I just read a summary. :S |
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Fierce_Deity22 said: Kaioshin_Sama said: Fierce_Deity22 said: Bake is so overly praised its getting sickening. :/ I marathoned this whole series over a week ago and they all feel the same to me. People need to get over the nostalgic feelings they probably have for the first season. Jeez. Yeah it's pretty ridiculous and insufferable isn't it, especially with how obnoxious a lot of it's fanboys are in other anime threads always comparing everything to it unfavorably even when it's just tangential comparisons at best. I've never been able to wrap my head around why so many people are so damn fanatical and obsessive about this franchise and why it's supposed to just be like the absolute greatest thing ever and everything is just apparently shit by comparison. A lot of people make arguments for Hitagi, but I just don't see her as that interesting a character nor one that is even as unique as some people seem to think it is. Even when it has it's rare moments of good dialogue and character drama amidst all the ridiculous pandering and time wasting back and forths, I just can't grasp it and figure it must be a community thing or something. Like Monogatari series gets praised and worshipped as the greatest thing, that's just what people have decided. I also get the impression that worship of Monogatari is seen as like some sort of measuring stick of how hardcore you are as an otaku and that there's a lot of peer pressure and just desire to fit in involved. It kind of reminds me a lot of back when Haruhi was all the rage and I just couldn't wrap my head around why people were so bloody fanatical about it to the point of inducing nausea. Like it's one thing to have a really popular and beloved franchise, but something about the way Monogatari fans act about it reminds me of something I haven't seen since Haruhi. It's the hardest thing for me to understand about anime these days but obviously especially on MAL people have bought into whatever it is they see in this franchise big time. ya hitagi is alright but the blessing for her is silly. Haruhi oh I remember that show. It was the one with the 7-8 episode REPEAT insta-skip. I just read a summary. :S Well the second season was yeah. The original honestly wasn't half bad and had some really fun episodes, but I also never got the sheer fanaticism for it either and chalked it up to an otaku thing similar to my perception of the Monogatari fanaticism. I guess I just don't really get fanaticism and hyperbolic levels of praise much even if there's some franchises I obviously really really enjoy. I sort of see that sort of method of reacting to be like a token appreciation almost since when all you hear is over the top appreciation for something all the time it tends to dull the effect and result in an increased sense of skepticism. It doesn't help either that this franchises tendency to get hung up on fanservice stuff a lot of the time doesn't exactly help it's case as an eclectic masterpiece of modern fiction. With Haruhi it was kind of like this and the original Bakemonogatari series were in terms of the sheer fanaticism and pressure you felt from the fanbase to "fit in", only possibly louder and more in your face initially. Like all of a sudden you went from not even knowing of it's existence to it being literally all anybody seemed to want to talk about and put on the pedestal. I suppose this years Attack on Titan is also comparable only that came with a lot of pre-hype as well before it exploded all over the world so you also have the anti-hype backlash which franchises like Monogatari seem to have largely avoided. |
PeacingOutJan 8, 2014 4:08 PM
Kaioshin_Sama said: Different tastes. I've never been able to wrap my head around why so many people are so damn fanatical and obsessive about this franchise I know right, it's a shocker. Kaioshin_Sama said: SubjectiveA lot of people make arguments for Hitagi, but I just don't see her as that interesting a character nor one that is even as unique as some people seem to think it is. Kaioshin_Sama said: >time wastingEven when it has it's rare moments of good dialogue and character drama amidst all the ridiculous pandering and time wasting back and forths, I don't remember one conversation in this show that was a time waster Kaioshin_Sama said: Hell no I also get the impression that worship of Monogatari is seen as like some sort of measuring stick of how hardcore you are as an otaku Kaioshin_Sama said: You tend to feel that way towards something you're passionate about. I myself love the Monogatari series. Every anime has goods and bad's about its fanbase. You can't generalize an entire audience. Like it's one thing to have a really popular and beloved franchise, but something about the way Monogatari fans act about it reminds me of something I haven't seen since Haruhi. |
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Kaioshin_Sama said: snip snap to make things shorter I don't mind your criticism of the monogatari series too much. Everyone has their own tastes and every fandom of anything have its goods and bads. What I don't understand is your devotion on trying to hate on this series so much. I was wondering why you were so familiar, it's because early in the season I remember a LOT of hate other fans had towards you when you criticized this series. If you don't like it you don't have to keep coming back in multiple discussion threads bro :/ |
Kaioshin_Sama said: Even when it has it's rare moments of good dialogue and character drama amidst all the ridiculous pandering and time wasting back and forths, I just can't grasp it and figure it must be a community thing or something. Like Monogatari series gets praised and worshipped as the greatest thing, that's just what people have decided. I also get the impression that worship of Monogatari is seen as like some sort of measuring stick of how hardcore you are as an otaku and that there's a lot of peer pressure and just desire to fit in involved. It kind of reminds me a lot of back when Haruhi was all the rage and I just couldn't wrap my head around why people were so bloody fanatical about it to the point of inducing nausea. Like it's one thing to have a really popular and beloved franchise, but something about the way Monogatari fans act about it reminds me of something I haven't seen since Haruhi. It's the hardest thing for me to understand about anime these days but obviously especially on MAL people have bought into whatever it is they see in this franchise big time. If you haven't realized this by now, pretty much every anime (and hell non-anime too) with even decent popularity is filled with fanatics obsessing over them. Just take for example Kill la Kill... that had some insane hype (that's died down a bit) to the point where it almost detracts from the series for me all the "IT SAVED ANIME" junk. It's not like there's really anything to understand... it's just how fanbases are. Point is it's not even close to Monogatari exclusive, no matter how popular Second Season is still only ranked #22. But hell, even anime with mediocre to horrible scores have fanatics... I think Yuusha ni Narenakatta and Meganebu were absolute shit... but there's still people saying "Omg, best series ever 10/10!!", but you don't see me telling them they're wrong. Yeah a series this popular has lots of mindless worshippers, but it's not like everyone in the fanbase is that way. I mean, I personally love this series, and I also I don't really get why Hitagi is so popular... she's one of my least favorite characters in the series. But I don't dislike her at all, so it's all just a matter of personal preferences. My favorite character is Suruga Kanbara, who isn't even a particularly popular character, but I can perfectly understand her not being everyone's favorite Your main gripe here seems to simply be that popularity exists. If no anime got popular, then people wouldn't bother even making anime. I don't expect everyone to like this series... so it's fine for you to not like it, but there's no point in complaining about a series having a fanbase. Most people like it, but it's still not for everyone, and you just happen to be one of those people. Complaining about a series' hype isn't going to stop it, and it's definitely not going to convince anyone but maybe hipsters who can't accept mainstream series (therefore people who already hate it) that it's bad. |
HalibelTheEspadaJan 8, 2014 11:26 PM
| I thought Kaiki was done for when the cesspool of snakes surrounded him luckily he got to talk himself out of it by the manga art he found in Nadeko's closet The way he persuaded her was impressive and Araragi showing up to clean up the mess was just fitting 2 bad Kaiki has met his demise at the end with Ougi behind all of this all along The charm which got into Sengoku's hands was all because of her I think Thank you Shaft for adapting this, it was an amazing storytelling ride |
Fierce_Deity22 said: Bake is so overly praised its getting sickening. :/ I marathoned this whole series over a week ago and they all feel the same to me. People need to get over the nostalgic feelings they probably have for the first season. Jeez. it's actually my least favorite of the three tv series. on topic though, rip kaiki. |
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