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Oct 19, 2013 12:39 PM
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omg dat feels *__*, when kurugaya hugs riki with song for friends *__*, sasuga jun maeda
is it true kurugaya route ends here?? pls tell me guys
Oct 19, 2013 12:39 PM

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kind of sad but this was a good episode

I CAN'T WAIT 'til the next episode, Riki and Rin, yesssss
Oct 19, 2013 12:40 PM
*hug noises*

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liv3urway said:
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I'm confused right now, was that the end of kurugaya's route? and they're now starting refrain?


We're on Rin's route starting now.

refrain is still about a month away.


If that was the ending, then what happened to kurugaya? What did she mean by last wish? what happened to kurugaya x riki, doesn't kurugaya confess to riki that she loves him? to many plotholes XD

yet to be explained =/= plothole :3
Oct 19, 2013 12:41 PM

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dayzfuad said:
omg dat feels *__*, when kurugaya hugs riki with song for friends *__*, sasuga jun maeda
is it true kurugaya route ends here?? pls tell me guys

Jun Maeda don't wrote Kurugaya's route.

And yeah, ends here. Next episode is Rin's route.
Oct 19, 2013 12:44 PM
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NayukiShiina said:
dayzfuad said:
omg dat feels *__*, when kurugaya hugs riki with song for friends *__*, sasuga jun maeda
is it true kurugaya route ends here?? pls tell me guys

Jun Maeda don't wrote Kurugaya's route.


But he did compose "Song for Friends"
Oct 19, 2013 12:46 PM
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NayukiShiina said:
dayzfuad said:
omg dat feels *__*, when kurugaya hugs riki with song for friends *__*, sasuga jun maeda
is it true kurugaya route ends here?? pls tell me guys

Jun Maeda don't wrote Kurugaya's route.

And yeah, ends here. Next episode is Rin's route.

haha i thought jun wrote all lb route,

is it possible kurugaya have a scene again?? need moar kurugaya arghhhhhh
Oct 19, 2013 12:48 PM
*hug noises*

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dayzfuad said:
NayukiShiina said:
dayzfuad said:
omg dat feels *__*, when kurugaya hugs riki with song for friends *__*, sasuga jun maeda
is it true kurugaya route ends here?? pls tell me guys

Jun Maeda don't wrote Kurugaya's route.

And yeah, ends here. Next episode is Rin's route.

haha i thought jun wrote all lb route,

is it possible kurugaya have a scene again?? need moar kurugaya arghhhhhh

do you really want us to answer that?
Oct 19, 2013 12:48 PM

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MCAL said:
NayukiShiina said:
dayzfuad said:
omg dat feels *__*, when kurugaya hugs riki with song for friends *__*, sasuga jun maeda
is it true kurugaya route ends here?? pls tell me guys

Jun Maeda don't wrote Kurugaya's route.


But he did compose "Song for Friends"

That wasn't the point... uvu

dayzfuad said:
NayukiShiina said:
dayzfuad said:
omg dat feels *__*, when kurugaya hugs riki with song for friends *__*, sasuga jun maeda
is it true kurugaya route ends here?? pls tell me guys

Jun Maeda don't wrote Kurugaya's route.

And yeah, ends here. Next episode is Rin's route.

haha i thought jun wrote all lb route,

is it possible kurugaya have a scene again?? need moar kurugaya arghhhhhh

Don't worry.

And... let's see about it :/
Oct 19, 2013 12:52 PM
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HaXXspetten said:
dayzfuad said:
NayukiShiina said:
dayzfuad said:
omg dat feels *__*, when kurugaya hugs riki with song for friends *__*, sasuga jun maeda
is it true kurugaya route ends here?? pls tell me guys

Jun Maeda don't wrote Kurugaya's route.

And yeah, ends here. Next episode is Rin's route.

haha i thought jun wrote all lb route,

is it possible kurugaya have a scene again?? need moar kurugaya arghhhhhh

do you really want us to answer that?

you can answer "yes or no" haha
Oct 19, 2013 1:11 PM

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I have to say I feel like this is a step up from the first season already, really enjoying this. So many mysteries and questions, I wonder what Kurugaya meant by all of that. Also I seriously wonder what Kyousuke's deal is, he's definitely suspicious. I wonder if he was the one who sent all of those tasks to Rin and Riki in S1.
Oct 19, 2013 1:18 PM

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As I expected most of the anime only viewers didn't get the feels XD
Oct 19, 2013 1:23 PM

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Barion-Zara said:
As I expected most of the anime only viewers didn't get the feels XD


haha is pretty normal, I guess most people are confused at this point xD.
Like someone says earlier in this thread, when Refrain ends they should re-watch this episode.
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Oct 19, 2013 1:32 PM

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Welp, that was sad. I Nearly teared up when Song for Friends started playing. Great episode.
Oct 19, 2013 1:35 PM

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dizzyworld2 said:
liv3urway said:
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liv3urway said:
I'm confused right now, was that the end of kurugaya's route? and they're now starting refrain?


We're on Rin's route starting now.

refrain is still about a month away.


If that was the ending, then what happened to kurugaya? What did she mean by last wish? what happened to kurugaya x riki, doesn't kurugaya confess to riki that she loves him? to many plotholes XD

Kurugaya's wish was to experience emotions - especially love. She was able to attain that wish and decided to end the 6/20 loop. It's not a plot hole. Everything's explained near the end of Refrain.


I know that Kurugaya's wish was to experience emotions - especially love, but she stated "last wish" which means that she must have made more wishes in the past, what were those last wishes?
Oct 19, 2013 1:37 PM

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liv3urway said:
dizzyworld2 said:
liv3urway said:
Funya-Usagi said:
liv3urway said:
I'm confused right now, was that the end of kurugaya's route? and they're now starting refrain?


We're on Rin's route starting now.

refrain is still about a month away.


If that was the ending, then what happened to kurugaya? What did she mean by last wish? what happened to kurugaya x riki, doesn't kurugaya confess to riki that she loves him? to many plotholes XD

Kurugaya's wish was to experience emotions - especially love. She was able to attain that wish and decided to end the 6/20 loop. It's not a plot hole. Everything's explained near the end of Refrain.


I know that Kurugaya's wish was to experience emotions - especially love, but she stated "last wish" which means that she must have made more wishes in the past, what were those last wishes?


you're looking at it differently from what was intended.

just wait until refrain.
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Oct 19, 2013 1:40 PM

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I dint Get really sad
I think the next episode will have alot of sad parts
Oct 19, 2013 1:51 PM

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huh... not sure what to feel. everything is kinda like eh wtf just happened. i feel like i should be sad but lolwut...
Oct 19, 2013 1:51 PM

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I dint Get really sad
I think the next episode will have alot of sad parts


Lol no.

Oct 19, 2013 2:37 PM
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To be fair, Kurugaya route in the VN wasn't truly emotional in my opinion, and still, JC staff managed to make it quite sad. Good job there.
And also that: "I need to read the VN to undestand what is going on" is not certainly correct, personally, I had the same weird feeling with the VN that people now with the anime.
And... yeah, it's on purpose; so don't be scared. The real thing, and all the answers, are coming soon.
Oct 19, 2013 2:49 PM

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Argh don't tell me there's going to be magic involved in this
It was ok in Clannad, but not again please

Also, only 13 episodes?
Oct 19, 2013 2:53 PM

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1lau said:
Argh don't tell me there's going to be magic involved in this
It was ok in Clannad, but not again please

Also, only 13 episodes?


Clannad's ending was terrible
Oct 19, 2013 2:58 PM
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1lau said:
Argh don't tell me there's going to be magic involved in this
It was ok in Clannad, but not again please


The question is: Is there a single Key series who doesn't contain magic? xD

pd: Sry if there is something gramatically weird. I'm spanish speaker.
Oct 19, 2013 3:05 PM

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So after this episode, Riki will not remember what happened on June 20th because all of it actually happened within Kurugaya's dream. Is this right? Or did Kurugaya actually disappear since they made their farewell seem so emotional? Quite confused..
Oct 19, 2013 3:06 PM

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Cant wait for the hardcore Maeda episodes starting next week XD
Oct 19, 2013 3:22 PM

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Just woke up and read over 9 pages. To anime viewers who are confused. It's normal. This episode will make sense after refrain is finished so you should watch this episode again afterwards. There are many hints in the dialogue for you guys to speculate so I wouldn't recommend spoiling yourself beforehand.
Oct 19, 2013 3:29 PM

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Anime viewers:
If you think "Ohoho I have to be a VN reader to understand the anime"...

There's a secret to this world. Those who have already had the secret revealed from Refrain in the VN will understand the show better, but VN readers, for the most part, didn't understand this story arc much better than you did when they read it.
Oct 19, 2013 3:33 PM

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egnaro315 said:
Just woke up and read over 9 pages. To anime viewers who are confused. It's normal. This episode will make sense after refrain is finished so you should watch this episode again afterwards. There are many hints in the dialogue for you guys to speculate so I wouldn't recommend spoiling yourself beforehand.


Allow me to add that it is INTENDED for you to be confused now. They want you to be wondering about what's actually going, making you eager to find out the secret of the world. So when refrain progresses, that question mark above your head will slowly turn into an expression of utmost terror and sadness.

VN players were just as confused as you were after completing Kurugaya route. It's ok. It's all in the plan.
Oct 19, 2013 3:39 PM

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for a minute there i thought that this was riki http://i.imgur.com/Cxg9OGd.png
Oct 19, 2013 3:40 PM
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RinxRiki time huh...

yay!
Oct 19, 2013 3:55 PM

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*scratches head*

I think I need to rewatch this route/arc again
Oct 19, 2013 3:59 PM
*hug noises*

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serphirs said:
1lau said:
Argh don't tell me there's going to be magic involved in this
It was ok in Clannad, but not again please


The question is: Is there a single Key series who doesn't contain magic? xD
Don't think Planetarian had any magic... other than that I think they all do (although Rewrite's is drastically different and on a completely different scale)
Oct 19, 2013 4:20 PM
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Don't think Planetarian had any magic... other than that I think they all do (although Rewrite's is drastically different and on a completely different scale)


Maybe magic isn't the right word, better "supernatural" or "fantasy". And all the Key series have it, in higher o lower levels.
The point is. If someone likes "Key". Then, he shouldn't be surprised if they add magical/supernatural/fantastical stuffs into their series.
Oct 19, 2013 4:33 PM

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As I expected most of the anime only viewers didn't get the feels XD
I sure as hell did. I think some just aren't using their imagination, or thought that this cour would immediately start getting into explanations about the secret of the world and the enigmas we witnessed in the first season because of all the hype surrounding the title. It's sort of understandable but if you've read up at all you should know Kurugaya's route is its own entity much like the heroine routes of the first season. So why would it start revealing bigger pieces of the puzzle when Refrain hasn't started yet?

Even though it sucks we (and Riki) don't know right now why that had to happen, it's clearly more important to focus on the heroine's story and development than trying to understand everything. That's why we know as much as Riki knows. The ambiguity didn't take away from the feels, it really made it more desperate feeling. This may have just beat out Mio's route for me.

I'm glad I decided not to power through the VN before this aired seeing that all the readers are so pleased with J.C.'s handling of it so far, so I think it's gonna be a hell of a ride.
Oct 19, 2013 5:08 PM

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People sure are easy to forget things. Almost every other routes (probably saves for Haruka and Komari which has several clues but still understandable) are also intentionally leaving things to be explained later in Refrain.

Good episode, I'll make sure to rewatch the entire series after Refrain ends. Now let's start the real Maeda meat.

Also, 13 episodes ;______;
Oct 19, 2013 5:33 PM

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;-; I teared up at the end. Kurugaya was my favorite girl. </3
I loved the BGM and how well it fit the scenes.
I'm worried about the short amount of episodes(I haven't played the VN) but if it continues to be this good then I'm sure I'll love it.
Oct 19, 2013 5:58 PM

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Oh no Kurugaya-san T^T ...

When the rosario on her chest is taken off, Moka's vampire inner self awakes.
Oct 19, 2013 6:06 PM

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Vladz0r said:
Anime viewers:
If you think "Ohoho I have to be a VN reader to understand the anime"...

There's a secret to this world. Those who have already had the secret revealed from Refrain in the VN will understand the show better, but VN readers, for the most part, didn't understand this story arc much better than you did when they read it.
I didn't even understand it after finishing before reading from the outside source.

Anyway on this episode the feel is much better than when I read VN. And Kousuke become ever more mysterious in this.
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Oct 19, 2013 6:35 PM
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I went back and watched it again. I really have to hand it to Yui Horrie for being such an amazing VA. Her portrayal of Riki is spot on with all the desperation that he undergoes in this episode. I've held her in high regard as a VA since she did Ayu in Kanon but this performance goes above and beyond that and it really stands out in this episode.
Oct 19, 2013 6:37 PM
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NeoAnkara said:
Vladz0r said:
Anime viewers:
If you think "Ohoho I have to be a VN reader to understand the anime"...

There's a secret to this world. Those who have already had the secret revealed from Refrain in the VN will understand the show better, but VN readers, for the most part, didn't understand this story arc much better than you did when they read it.
I didn't even understand it after finishing before reading from the outside source.

Anyway on this episode the feel is much better than when I read VN. And Kousuke become ever more mysterious in this.


I was confused as hell until I finished refrain and did her 2nd ending. At that point it was very clear what went on in this arc, but up till that point I actually found it to be one of the weaker arcs even though now i regard it as the strongest of the heroine arcs.
Oct 19, 2013 6:58 PM

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13 episodes only for this season? :(
Really enjoyed this episode was really well done and just so lovely to watch.
In a way you could say that Kurugaya was suffering from depression at such a young age, at least that was the impression I got.
Can't wait for future episode because this was an amazing episode.
Oct 19, 2013 7:05 PM

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Holy fuck... Kami-Sama staffing that lighting effect.... that animation... that fucking tears in my eyes.... I could not have been any happier
Oct 19, 2013 7:37 PM

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Aww man, all the feels for this episode! It was really well directed and the OST placement was great as well, Kurugaya's route, which was one of the favorites ending back when I played the VN sure got justice done by JC Staff.

Loli Kurugaya Hnnngggg

Kurugaya at the end of the episode HHHNNGGGGG!

The sadness the end of this route is just way too much, though I wonder if JC Staff wil do the True Good End to this route? ^^

Next week its back to Rin2! Looking forward to it and of course "Refrain"! Looks like the show is slated for 13 episodes, which at first was like just not enough, but if done really well, it all might fit right in really well. But we'll see. So far I've been satisfied with what JC Staff have put together.

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Oct 19, 2013 7:41 PM
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Almost let a tear escape... amazing episode, the feels ;_;
Oct 19, 2013 8:20 PM

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Rule 1:
Play "Song for Friends" in front of me and I´ll make you a river of tears.

Good ending to Kurugaya´s arc. It could have been better, but they made it good.
Yeah, I agree with the user who says some scenes don´t have too good animation, but yes, they wanted to give us the big blow at the end.

13 EPISODES ONLY? But JC... Refrain wouldn´t be the same thing with only 4-5 rushed episodes... T________T. But well...

Next week, the damn true story begins...

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Am i the only one who think this was VERY forced drama? I mean, this came out of nowhere.
I think i'm missing something, can anyone send me the whole thing full of spoilers please? I'm so close to dropping this i even gave the first season a 5.
Maybe i just need to know some stuff to like this series.

You can do it yourself by playing the visual novel, or stop being lazy and go google it, read wiki, and they even have a thread talking about visual novel outside ...


Well thanks but i'll pass on this. Was hoping someone could PM a few details i may need to know to like this.
Guess i just drop this shit.
Pretty cheap if you have to read the novel before watching the anime to understand whats going on.



Someone here didn´t realize that this is a RUSHED adaptation.
Do you want a cookie for such a feat? Anyways, You´ll be losing the explanation about the whole story, but who cares.
Also, if someone spoils You the damn point of the story, which would be the use of keep watching it?

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Oct 19, 2013 8:26 PM

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I must admit I almost shed a tear there. After the credits, when Kurugaya smiles.
I haven't read the novel so I don't know but, I really wonder if Kurugaya won't be there anymore? Or just the memories of that fateful day will fade away?
Also, what about Rin. WHAT ABOUT KYOUSUKEEEE

I tell you guys, if they do this kind of sad scene with Kyousuke/Masato/Kengo I will cry for sure.

Oh, the OST are beautiful.
Looking forward to see the next episode, I want to understand more of this.
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yet to be explained =/= plothole :3


Vladz0r said:
Anime viewers:
If you think "Ohoho I have to be a VN reader to understand the anime"...

There's a secret to this world. Those who have already had the secret revealed from Refrain in the VN will understand the show better, but VN readers, for the most part, didn't understand this story arc much better than you did when they read it.


This is how it all begins.



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Oct 19, 2013 8:35 PM

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In my personal opinion this episode was boring. Just bring on Rin and Refrain already! As someone on page one said, everything from this point (upcoming episode) on will be written by Jun Maeda.

In other words, bring it on ;)
Oct 19, 2013 8:44 PM

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Oh boy, Rin's route and Refrain starting next. I am so ready for this!

On a side note, Song for Friends is so beautiful.
Oct 19, 2013 8:56 PM

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I liked that episode. I never really understood Kurugaya Route in the VN, so watching it again in the anime made more sense (especially after Refrain).

I'm still not really sure why Kurugaya route is so connected to Refrain, while other heroine routes are essentially their own stories. But I can't deny that it leads up to Refrain pretty effectively.

Rin route and Refrain soon. My body is ready.

Edit: Refrain is 13 episodes. No comment.
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I'm really glad I understand what this episode foreshadows, otherwise I'd really be lost and only see this as a mysterious departure.
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