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uzee said: Both Guilty Crown and SAO are in my top 5 list. If the anime continues like the first episode, this one will be going there as well Sigh, people like this.... ruin my faith in humanity... |
mkn888 said: Sigh, people like this.... ruin my faith in humanity... Maybe he saw just five anime altogether. The other three being Parappa the Rapper, Virus Buster Serge and Cosprayers. :D Also, this thread is a joke. |
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mkn888 said: uzee said: Both Guilty Crown and SAO are in my top 5 list. If the anime continues like the first episode, this one will be going there as well Sigh, people like this.... ruin my faith in humanity... Lmfao |
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mkn888 said: uzee said: Both Guilty Crown and SAO are in my top 5 list. If the anime continues like the first episode, this one will be going there as well Sigh, people like this.... ruin my faith in humanity... How so? Sure, they're different show, and maybe in your opinion, their quality are greatly apart. But in the eyes of common action viewer, all they need to see is... A main character with sword jumping around, raging as he's doing badass thing like slicing his enemies or taking down big machine/monsters. Which SAO, GC and Shingeki all have in common. In fact, I think Shingeki, SAO and GC will generally share the same kind of fans. I mean, just look at the amount of people that makes comparison between Lelouch and Light Yagami. Sure, fans of Light might criticize those that compare them, but in the end, both shows attract the same type of fans through their similar attraction. |
AirStylesApr 14, 2013 10:39 AM
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AirStyles said: It is dangerous to say that, here take this.mkn888 said: uzee said: Both Guilty Crown and SAO are in my top 5 list. If the anime continues like the first episode, this one will be going there as well Sigh, people like this.... ruin my faith in humanity... How so? Sure, they're different show, and maybe in your opinion, their quality are greatly apart. But in the eyes of common action viewer, all they need to see is... A main character with sword jumping around, raging as he's doing badass thing like slicing his enemies or taking down big machine/monsters. Which SAO, GC and Shingeki all have in common. In fact, I think Shingeki, SAO and GC will generally share the same kind of fans. I mean, just look at the amount of people that makes comparison between Lelouch and Light Yagami. Sure, fans of Light might criticize those that compare them, but in the end, both shows attract the same type of fans through their similar attraction. *hands out flame suit* |
ssjokg said: You're gonna save many lives with thoseAirStyles said: It is dangerous to say that, here take this.mkn888 said: uzee said: Both Guilty Crown and SAO are in my top 5 list. If the anime continues like the first episode, this one will be going there as well Sigh, people like this.... ruin my faith in humanity... How so? Sure, they're different show, and maybe in your opinion, their quality are greatly apart. But in the eyes of common action viewer, all they need to see is... A main character with sword jumping around, raging as he's doing badass thing like slicing his enemies or taking down big machine/monsters. Which SAO, GC and Shingeki all have in common. In fact, I think Shingeki, SAO and GC will generally share the same kind of fans. I mean, just look at the amount of people that makes comparison between Lelouch and Light Yagami. Sure, fans of Light might criticize those that compare them, but in the end, both shows attract the same type of fans through their similar attraction. *hands out flame suit* |
AnimeHAwk616 said: ssjokg said: You're gonna save many lives with thoseAirStyles said: It is dangerous to say that, here take this.mkn888 said: uzee said: Both Guilty Crown and SAO are in my top 5 list. If the anime continues like the first episode, this one will be going there as well Sigh, people like this.... ruin my faith in humanity... How so? Sure, they're different show, and maybe in your opinion, their quality are greatly apart. But in the eyes of common action viewer, all they need to see is... A main character with sword jumping around, raging as he's doing badass thing like slicing his enemies or taking down big machine/monsters. Which SAO, GC and Shingeki all have in common. In fact, I think Shingeki, SAO and GC will generally share the same kind of fans. I mean, just look at the amount of people that makes comparison between Lelouch and Light Yagami. Sure, fans of Light might criticize those that compare them, but in the end, both shows attract the same type of fans through their similar attraction. *hands out flame suit* I do like to hear about how I'm wrong. What I'm getting so far is that some fans of Shingeki don't want to be group with fans of SAO. I mean, what wrong with SAO and GC fans liking Shingeki? Shouldn't they be happy about their preferred show is getting more viewers? EDIT: Better question... are Shingeki fans so immature that they can't accept the fact that Shingeki also attract SAO and GC fans? |
AirStylesApr 14, 2013 11:50 AM
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AirStyles said: I didnt say that you are wrong.But from what I see in MAL the hardcore fans of SnK(or any other more serious and "dark" series) are really "Anti-SAO"(cause I am tired of the term hater).AnimeHAwk616 said: ssjokg said: You're gonna save many lives with thoseAirStyles said: It is dangerous to say that, here take this.mkn888 said: uzee said: Both Guilty Crown and SAO are in my top 5 list. If the anime continues like the first episode, this one will be going there as well Sigh, people like this.... ruin my faith in humanity... How so? Sure, they're different show, and maybe in your opinion, their quality are greatly apart. But in the eyes of common action viewer, all they need to see is... A main character with sword jumping around, raging as he's doing badass thing like slicing his enemies or taking down big machine/monsters. Which SAO, GC and Shingeki all have in common. In fact, I think Shingeki, SAO and GC will generally share the same kind of fans. I mean, just look at the amount of people that makes comparison between Lelouch and Light Yagami. Sure, fans of Light might criticize those that compare them, but in the end, both shows attract the same type of fans through their similar attraction. *hands out flame suit* I do like to hear about how I'm wrong. What I'm getting so far is that some fans of Shingeki don't want to be group with fans of SAO. I mean, what wrong with SAO and GC fans liking Shingeki? Shouldn't they be happy about their preferred show is getting more viewers? So putting them in the same group as them is dangerous. Why?Because those that like SAO and/or GC are mindless otaku who are into self insert stories so liking the same thing as them is "bad" for them,not the series. |
ssjokg said: I didnt say that you are wrong.But from what I see in MAL the hardcore fans of SnK are really "Anti-SAO"(cause I am tired of the term hater). So putting them in the same group as them is dangerous. In other word, they're discriminating against their own kind because of differences in preference/taste/value. Why does this keep reminding me of Germany 1940's |
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Sophilia said: What ssjokg said. If SnK turns out to be another SAO, I'm gonna be mortified. I did like SAO, but the second half of the anime was terrible. That wont happen. |
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ssjokg said: Sophilia said: What ssjokg said. If SnK turns out to be another SAO, I'm gonna be mortified. I did like SAO, but the second half of the anime was terrible. That wont happen. Kinda early to judge isn't it ssjokg? I thought you'd learn to be more conserve when it comes to making these kind of statement/promises after what happened to SAO. |
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AirStyles said: I cant imagine how bad the adaptation must be for that to happen.Unless they start going original from ep 12.I knew what parts people wont like in SAO even i it was a proper one.But I dont see a reason in SnK(I dont count lack of action as bad btw)ssjokg said: Sophilia said: What ssjokg said. If SnK turns out to be another SAO, I'm gonna be mortified. I did like SAO, but the second half of the anime was terrible. That wont happen. Kinda early to judge isn't it ssjokg? I thought you'd learn to be more conserve when it comes to making these kind of statement/promises after what happened to SAO. |
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ssjokg said: AirStyles said: I cant imagine how bad the adaptation must be for that to happen.Unless they start going original from ep 12.I knew what parts people wont like in SAO even i it was a proper one.But I dont see a reason in SnK(I dont count lack of action as bad btw)ssjokg said: Sophilia said: What ssjokg said. If SnK turns out to be another SAO, I'm gonna be mortified. I did like SAO, but the second half of the anime was terrible. That wont happen. Kinda early to judge isn't it ssjokg? I thought you'd learn to be more conserve when it comes to making these kind of statement/promises after what happened to SAO. I'm not holding my breath for SnK, because personally, I don't see too much potential from SnK. Unless the upcoming writing catch me majorly off-guard, though I have serious doubts about that. Arararraragi-kun said: Lol people bitching about a show failing before it fails /interwebz. Say what? We're contemplating and discussing "could it fail?" Not bitching about "The show will fail" You're embarrassing yourself. |
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AirStyles said: Note that I never called it a masterpiece.ssjokg said: AirStyles said: I cant imagine how bad the adaptation must be for that to happen.Unless they start going original from ep 12.I knew what parts people wont like in SAO even i it was a proper one.But I dont see a reason in SnK(I dont count lack of action as bad btw)ssjokg said: Sophilia said: What ssjokg said. If SnK turns out to be another SAO, I'm gonna be mortified. I did like SAO, but the second half of the anime was terrible. That wont happen. Kinda early to judge isn't it ssjokg? I thought you'd learn to be more conserve when it comes to making these kind of statement/promises after what happened to SAO. I'm not holding my breath for SnK, because personally, I don't see too much potential from SnK. Unless the upcoming writing catch me majorly off-guard, though I have serious doubts about that. Arararraragi-kun said: Lol people bitching about a show failing before it fails /interwebz. Say what? We're contemplating and discussing "could it fail?" Not bitching about "The show will fail" You're embarrassing yourself. |
ssjokg said: Note that I never called it a masterpiece. Never said you did. Personally, I'm most excited for RDG this season, SnK is kinda resting near the meh side of my priority. I can see why people will go nuts over SnK, but I just can't see myself going nuts for it over the same reason. Then again, SnK is not quite my kind of show I don't think. |
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Sophilia said: Why RDG? The only reason I'm even watching that show is cuz Miyuki is an interesting character. It's kinda bad; I actually set high hopes for it too. Though SnK might not be the genre some people are into, I think a majority will be able to at least grasp the intensity of the show, and maybe even sympathize with Eren's feelings, and/or the other characters. The writing potential Sophilia, writing potential. It's a bit like Shinsekai Yori from last year, there is potential in it. Whether it blossom or not is another matter. (Not saying that I see RDG in SSY's level, but you get what I mean) To be frank, I found myself asking more questions when watching RDG and is genuinely interested. While finding myself just watching SnK with a blank expression, taking in the story/info that I'm fed with, not getting excited about many things (quite frankly, nothing so far). There's just... Nothing that really took me in, lets just say, I literally don't give a rat's ass about any character outside of Hannes so far in the story. I don't know if this make sense to you. But that's just how I honestly feels about SnK and RDG. |
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AirStyles said: Well there wasnt any char dev at all in those 2 eps.Both was just the "introduction" to show how fucked up the situation is.And you like Hannes huh?Well it would be a same if he turned out to be like this guy Sophilia said: Why RDG? The only reason I'm even watching that show is cuz Miyuki is an interesting character. It's kinda bad; I actually set high hopes for it too. Though SnK might not be the genre some people are into, I think a majority will be able to at least grasp the intensity of the show, and maybe even sympathize with Eren's feelings, and/or the other characters. The writing potential Sophilia, writing potential. It's a bit like Shinsekai Yori from last year, there is potential in it. Whether it blossom or not is another matter. (Not saying that I see RDG in SSY's level, but you get what I mean) To be frank, I found myself asking more questions when watching RDG and is genuinely interested. While finding myself just watching SnK with a blank expression, taking in the story/info that I'm fed with, not getting excited about many things (quite frankly, nothing so far). There's just... Nothing that really took me in, lets just say, I literally don't give a rat's ass about any character outside of Hannes so far in the story. I don't know if this make sense to you. But that's just how I honestly feels about SnK and RDG. |
ssjokg said: AirStyles said: Well there wasnt any char dev at all in those 2 eps.Both was just the "introduction" to show how fucked up the situation is.And you like Hannes huh?Well it would be a same if he turned out to be like this guy Sophilia said: Why RDG? The only reason I'm even watching that show is cuz Miyuki is an interesting character. It's kinda bad; I actually set high hopes for it too. Though SnK might not be the genre some people are into, I think a majority will be able to at least grasp the intensity of the show, and maybe even sympathize with Eren's feelings, and/or the other characters. The writing potential Sophilia, writing potential. It's a bit like Shinsekai Yori from last year, there is potential in it. Whether it blossom or not is another matter. (Not saying that I see RDG in SSY's level, but you get what I mean) To be frank, I found myself asking more questions when watching RDG and is genuinely interested. While finding myself just watching SnK with a blank expression, taking in the story/info that I'm fed with, not getting excited about many things (quite frankly, nothing so far). There's just... Nothing that really took me in, lets just say, I literally don't give a rat's ass about any character outside of Hannes so far in the story. I don't know if this make sense to you. But that's just how I honestly feels about SnK and RDG. I like Hannes after he made the statement about "people prefer to see drunk soldiers", as well as him running away from the titan. The one in the spoiler image however, don't feel like he have a hint of character from start to finish. Quite frankly, replace him with a tree log and I wouldn't care. |
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dankickyou said: Shingeki no Kyojin is pretty good so far. Not as good as greatest anime of all time Aku no Hana. But what is? |
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AirStyles said: No I meant that we wont be seeing him a lot(or at all)ssjokg said: AirStyles said: Well there wasnt any char dev at all in those 2 eps.Both was just the "introduction" to show how fucked up the situation is.And you like Hannes huh?Well it would be a same if he turned out to be like this guy Sophilia said: Why RDG? The only reason I'm even watching that show is cuz Miyuki is an interesting character. It's kinda bad; I actually set high hopes for it too. Though SnK might not be the genre some people are into, I think a majority will be able to at least grasp the intensity of the show, and maybe even sympathize with Eren's feelings, and/or the other characters. The writing potential Sophilia, writing potential. It's a bit like Shinsekai Yori from last year, there is potential in it. Whether it blossom or not is another matter. (Not saying that I see RDG in SSY's level, but you get what I mean) To be frank, I found myself asking more questions when watching RDG and is genuinely interested. While finding myself just watching SnK with a blank expression, taking in the story/info that I'm fed with, not getting excited about many things (quite frankly, nothing so far). There's just... Nothing that really took me in, lets just say, I literally don't give a rat's ass about any character outside of Hannes so far in the story. I don't know if this make sense to you. But that's just how I honestly feels about SnK and RDG. I like Hannes after he made the statement about "people prefer to see drunk soldiers", as well as him running away from the titan. The one in the spoiler image however, don't feel like he have a hint of character from start to finish. Quite frankly, replace him with a tree log and I wouldn't care. |
ssjokg said: AirStyles said: No I meant that we wont be seeing him a lot(or at all)ssjokg said: AirStyles said: Well there wasnt any char dev at all in those 2 eps.Both was just the "introduction" to show how fucked up the situation is.And you like Hannes huh?Well it would be a same if he turned out to be like this guy Sophilia said: Why RDG? The only reason I'm even watching that show is cuz Miyuki is an interesting character. It's kinda bad; I actually set high hopes for it too. Though SnK might not be the genre some people are into, I think a majority will be able to at least grasp the intensity of the show, and maybe even sympathize with Eren's feelings, and/or the other characters. The writing potential Sophilia, writing potential. It's a bit like Shinsekai Yori from last year, there is potential in it. Whether it blossom or not is another matter. (Not saying that I see RDG in SSY's level, but you get what I mean) To be frank, I found myself asking more questions when watching RDG and is genuinely interested. While finding myself just watching SnK with a blank expression, taking in the story/info that I'm fed with, not getting excited about many things (quite frankly, nothing so far). There's just... Nothing that really took me in, lets just say, I literally don't give a rat's ass about any character outside of Hannes so far in the story. I don't know if this make sense to you. But that's just how I honestly feels about SnK and RDG. I like Hannes after he made the statement about "people prefer to see drunk soldiers", as well as him running away from the titan. The one in the spoiler image however, don't feel like he have a hint of character from start to finish. Quite frankly, replace him with a tree log and I wouldn't care. No that's fine. I don't mind not seeing him anymore. In the very short time-span, he have already left his mark. Kinda like Sachi from SAO, she left her mark. For me, a character's worth it's not in his/her screen time, it's what they represent, what kind of story they can tell within their own time, as well as how effectively their character are shown. And these 2 that I mention above, did colossal work compare to the character you showed me. |
AirStylesApr 14, 2013 1:35 PM
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AirStyles said: it still sucks when they are just left out.For any reason.ssjokg said: AirStyles said: No I meant that we wont be seeing him a lot(or at all)ssjokg said: AirStyles said: Well there wasnt any char dev at all in those 2 eps.Both was just the "introduction" to show how fucked up the situation is.And you like Hannes huh?Well it would be a same if he turned out to be like this guy Sophilia said: Why RDG? The only reason I'm even watching that show is cuz Miyuki is an interesting character. It's kinda bad; I actually set high hopes for it too. Though SnK might not be the genre some people are into, I think a majority will be able to at least grasp the intensity of the show, and maybe even sympathize with Eren's feelings, and/or the other characters. The writing potential Sophilia, writing potential. It's a bit like Shinsekai Yori from last year, there is potential in it. Whether it blossom or not is another matter. (Not saying that I see RDG in SSY's level, but you get what I mean) To be frank, I found myself asking more questions when watching RDG and is genuinely interested. While finding myself just watching SnK with a blank expression, taking in the story/info that I'm fed with, not getting excited about many things (quite frankly, nothing so far). There's just... Nothing that really took me in, lets just say, I literally don't give a rat's ass about any character outside of Hannes so far in the story. I don't know if this make sense to you. But that's just how I honestly feels about SnK and RDG. I like Hannes after he made the statement about "people prefer to see drunk soldiers", as well as him running away from the titan. The one in the spoiler image however, don't feel like he have a hint of character from start to finish. Quite frankly, replace him with a tree log and I wouldn't care. No that's fine. I don't mind not seeing him anymore. In the very short time-span, he have already left his mark. Kinda like Sachi from SAO, she left her mark. For me, a character's worth it's not in his/her screen time, it's what they represent, what kind of story they can tell within their own time, as well as how effectively their character are shown. And these 2 that I mention above, did colossal work compare to the character you showed me. |
ssjokg said: it still sucks when they are just left out.For any reason. I don't see it that way. I mean, even if someone makes a huge impact in your life, doesn't mean you'll see him again later on in your life to continue the story right? It's a big world, and some people just wanders off and live their own story as their own character. I don't see how all character should gather around the main character like he's the center of the universe. As I like those characters, yes, it'll be nice to see them again. But it's not relevant. If his story ends there, then his story ends there, because this is Eren's story, not Hannes. Hannes just bugger off somewhere and continue his own story that the author don't write. Whether he show up 10 years from where the story is now with a pregnant wife or whatever is irrelevant. It'll be nice to see, but it's still irrelevant. If he's relevant to Eren's story, then I welcome him back with open arms. If he's irrelevant, then he's back as a unneeded, but welcoming fan-service to myself. EDIT: I complain about wanting to see Sachi more, but that's just fan-service. I wish for a different outcome, but ultimately, it's not SAO's story to be like that. Would Sachi have made SAO better? I strongly believe so. But... That is not something I can criticize SAO over. What I can criticize of SAO is what it did, I can't criticize it of "If only they did this". The "if only" are merely my own preference. I mean... I won't hate on the movie Alladin just because Alladin didn't beat up the snake form Jafar with his sword like I wanted him to. I can only judge it by what it did, what I wish to happen, are merely fantasies/dreams of mine. |
AirStylesApr 14, 2013 1:59 PM
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AirStyles said: AnimeHAwk616 said: ssjokg said: You're gonna save many lives with thoseAirStyles said: It is dangerous to say that, here take this.mkn888 said: uzee said: Both Guilty Crown and SAO are in my top 5 list. If the anime continues like the first episode, this one will be going there as well Sigh, people like this.... ruin my faith in humanity... How so? Sure, they're different show, and maybe in your opinion, their quality are greatly apart. But in the eyes of common action viewer, all they need to see is... A main character with sword jumping around, raging as he's doing badass thing like slicing his enemies or taking down big machine/monsters. Which SAO, GC and Shingeki all have in common. In fact, I think Shingeki, SAO and GC will generally share the same kind of fans. I mean, just look at the amount of people that makes comparison between Lelouch and Light Yagami. Sure, fans of Light might criticize those that compare them, but in the end, both shows attract the same type of fans through their similar attraction. *hands out flame suit* I do like to hear about how I'm wrong. What I'm getting so far is that some fans of Shingeki don't want to be group with fans of SAO. I mean, what wrong with SAO and GC fans liking Shingeki? Shouldn't they be happy about their preferred show is getting more viewers? EDIT: Better question... are Shingeki fans so immature that they can't accept the fact that Shingeki also attract SAO and GC fans? My critique has nothing to do with the quality of SnK, in fact, I think it's mediocre at best. Rather it's an insulting to the anime genre that someone would think that SAO and GC (and SnK for that matter) are in the "Top 5" of anything unless it's "Top Worst Shows" |
mkn888 said: Says the one that has one of the most boring shows ever,d.gray man, in his top list.AirStyles said: AnimeHAwk616 said: ssjokg said: You're gonna save many lives with thoseAirStyles said: It is dangerous to say that, here take this.mkn888 said: uzee said: Both Guilty Crown and SAO are in my top 5 list. If the anime continues like the first episode, this one will be going there as well Sigh, people like this.... ruin my faith in humanity... How so? Sure, they're different show, and maybe in your opinion, their quality are greatly apart. But in the eyes of common action viewer, all they need to see is... A main character with sword jumping around, raging as he's doing badass thing like slicing his enemies or taking down big machine/monsters. Which SAO, GC and Shingeki all have in common. In fact, I think Shingeki, SAO and GC will generally share the same kind of fans. I mean, just look at the amount of people that makes comparison between Lelouch and Light Yagami. Sure, fans of Light might criticize those that compare them, but in the end, both shows attract the same type of fans through their similar attraction. *hands out flame suit* I do like to hear about how I'm wrong. What I'm getting so far is that some fans of Shingeki don't want to be group with fans of SAO. I mean, what wrong with SAO and GC fans liking Shingeki? Shouldn't they be happy about their preferred show is getting more viewers? EDIT: Better question... are Shingeki fans so immature that they can't accept the fact that Shingeki also attract SAO and GC fans? My critique has nothing to do with the quality of SnK, in fact, I think it's mediocre at best. Rather it's an insulting to the anime genre that someone would think that SAO and GC (and SnK for that matter) are in the "Top 5" of anything unless it's "Top Worst Shows" You think that your taste and preference is the only thing that matters? |
ssjokg said: mkn888 said: Says the one that has one of the most boring shows ever,d.gray man, in his top list.AirStyles said: AnimeHAwk616 said: ssjokg said: You're gonna save many lives with thoseAirStyles said: It is dangerous to say that, here take this.mkn888 said: uzee said: Both Guilty Crown and SAO are in my top 5 list. If the anime continues like the first episode, this one will be going there as well Sigh, people like this.... ruin my faith in humanity... How so? Sure, they're different show, and maybe in your opinion, their quality are greatly apart. But in the eyes of common action viewer, all they need to see is... A main character with sword jumping around, raging as he's doing badass thing like slicing his enemies or taking down big machine/monsters. Which SAO, GC and Shingeki all have in common. In fact, I think Shingeki, SAO and GC will generally share the same kind of fans. I mean, just look at the amount of people that makes comparison between Lelouch and Light Yagami. Sure, fans of Light might criticize those that compare them, but in the end, both shows attract the same type of fans through their similar attraction. *hands out flame suit* I do like to hear about how I'm wrong. What I'm getting so far is that some fans of Shingeki don't want to be group with fans of SAO. I mean, what wrong with SAO and GC fans liking Shingeki? Shouldn't they be happy about their preferred show is getting more viewers? EDIT: Better question... are Shingeki fans so immature that they can't accept the fact that Shingeki also attract SAO and GC fans? My critique has nothing to do with the quality of SnK, in fact, I think it's mediocre at best. Rather it's an insulting to the anime genre that someone would think that SAO and GC (and SnK for that matter) are in the "Top 5" of anything unless it's "Top Worst Shows" You think that your taste and preference is the only thing that matters? Lolololol an fallacious ad hominem attack does nothing to affect the credibility of my original argument. In addition, if you look at my rating, I don't rate DGM very highly in a holistic sense among all animes, just an enjoyment one. I actually do not think that only my taste and preference matter more than others, I merely believe that oftentimes--and this is a lucid representation of such a time--I do not fall into the same trap of prioritizing flashy graphics, angst, and hype over the far more important character development. Returning to my assertion, there is nothing, and I truly mean nothing, so far in the 3 episodes of SnK to merit it a spot in the "Top 5" or top #35 (whatever ranking it is on MAL now) of ALL animes in existence. In addition, how can you defend GC when you haven't even watched any of it? Or SAO when you've rated it almost as lowly as I have? |
ssjokg said: Well there wasnt any char dev at all in those 2 eps. There wasn't much character development in the whole manga. Even Eren and Mikasa lack in that area. It would be great if the anime added some new bonding episodes, like they extended stuff in the second episode. Adapting this manga panel to panel screams trainwreck. |
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mkn888 said: ssjokg said: mkn888 said: Says the one that has one of the most boring shows ever,d.gray man, in his top list.AirStyles said: AnimeHAwk616 said: ssjokg said: You're gonna save many lives with thoseAirStyles said: It is dangerous to say that, here take this.mkn888 said: uzee said: Both Guilty Crown and SAO are in my top 5 list. If the anime continues like the first episode, this one will be going there as well Sigh, people like this.... ruin my faith in humanity... How so? Sure, they're different show, and maybe in your opinion, their quality are greatly apart. But in the eyes of common action viewer, all they need to see is... A main character with sword jumping around, raging as he's doing badass thing like slicing his enemies or taking down big machine/monsters. Which SAO, GC and Shingeki all have in common. In fact, I think Shingeki, SAO and GC will generally share the same kind of fans. I mean, just look at the amount of people that makes comparison between Lelouch and Light Yagami. Sure, fans of Light might criticize those that compare them, but in the end, both shows attract the same type of fans through their similar attraction. *hands out flame suit* I do like to hear about how I'm wrong. What I'm getting so far is that some fans of Shingeki don't want to be group with fans of SAO. I mean, what wrong with SAO and GC fans liking Shingeki? Shouldn't they be happy about their preferred show is getting more viewers? EDIT: Better question... are Shingeki fans so immature that they can't accept the fact that Shingeki also attract SAO and GC fans? My critique has nothing to do with the quality of SnK, in fact, I think it's mediocre at best. Rather it's an insulting to the anime genre that someone would think that SAO and GC (and SnK for that matter) are in the "Top 5" of anything unless it's "Top Worst Shows" You think that your taste and preference is the only thing that matters? Lolololol an fallacious ad hominem attack does nothing to affect the credibility of my original argument. In addition, if you look at my rating, I don't rate DGM very highly in a holistic sense among all animes, just an enjoyment one. I actually do not think that only my taste and preference matter more than others, I merely believe that oftentimes--and this is a lucid representation of such a time--I do not fall into the same trap of prioritizing flashy graphics, angst, and hype over the far more important character development. Returning to my assertion, there is nothing, and I truly mean nothing, so far in the 3 episodes of SnK to merit it a spot in the "Top 5" or top #35 (whatever ranking it is on MAL now) of ALL animes in existence. In addition, how can you defend GC when you haven't even watched any of it? Or SAO when you've rated it almost as lowly as I have? Your original statement has no credibility whatsoever. What do my ratings or MAl's top list have to do with a single user's top list? And since DGM is in your top/fav list while you rated low(8 isnt that low anyway)why to do speak about others like they did the worst thing ever? I can defend whatever I want when I see unreasonable hate towards the show or its fans.My rating of SAO has nothing to do with you being a prick towards those that like certain series. If you cant stomach other people's taste then get out of here.MAL doesnt need more of you. |
ssjokgApr 23, 2013 1:22 PM
mkn888 said: I actually do not think that only my taste and preference matter more than others, I merely believe that oftentimes--and this is a lucid representation of such a time--I do not fall into the same trap of prioritizing flashy graphics, angst, and hype over the far more important character development. Returning to my assertion, there is nothing, and I truly mean nothing, so far in the 3 episodes of SnK to merit it a spot in the "Top 5" or top #35 (whatever ranking it is on MAL now) of ALL animes in existence. This however just reflects your opinion. Many people claim that Gintama is not worth of being #1 either. The whole rating system is subjective and biased. I never understand the fuss about it -- it is just an indication measured by [the size of] its fanbase. SnK might be well below #50 once it wraps up, who knows. MAL rating system is merely a tool to give an indication about an animes hype/fanbase, there are enough shows in the top 50 that I dislike, but does that mean it doesn't merit its rating? |
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pming said: Another difference is that SAO was not ridiculously popular before its anime aired. Credibility, lost. |
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ssjokg said: mkn888 said: ssjokg said: mkn888 said: Says the one that has one of the most boring shows ever,d.gray man, in his top list.AirStyles said: AnimeHAwk616 said: ssjokg said: You're gonna save many lives with thoseAirStyles said: It is dangerous to say that, here take this.mkn888 said: uzee said: Both Guilty Crown and SAO are in my top 5 list. If the anime continues like the first episode, this one will be going there as well Sigh, people like this.... ruin my faith in humanity... How so? Sure, they're different show, and maybe in your opinion, their quality are greatly apart. But in the eyes of common action viewer, all they need to see is... A main character with sword jumping around, raging as he's doing badass thing like slicing his enemies or taking down big machine/monsters. Which SAO, GC and Shingeki all have in common. In fact, I think Shingeki, SAO and GC will generally share the same kind of fans. I mean, just look at the amount of people that makes comparison between Lelouch and Light Yagami. Sure, fans of Light might criticize those that compare them, but in the end, both shows attract the same type of fans through their similar attraction. *hands out flame suit* I do like to hear about how I'm wrong. What I'm getting so far is that some fans of Shingeki don't want to be group with fans of SAO. I mean, what wrong with SAO and GC fans liking Shingeki? Shouldn't they be happy about their preferred show is getting more viewers? EDIT: Better question... are Shingeki fans so immature that they can't accept the fact that Shingeki also attract SAO and GC fans? My critique has nothing to do with the quality of SnK, in fact, I think it's mediocre at best. Rather it's an insulting to the anime genre that someone would think that SAO and GC (and SnK for that matter) are in the "Top 5" of anything unless it's "Top Worst Shows" You think that your taste and preference is the only thing that matters? Lolololol an fallacious ad hominem attack does nothing to affect the credibility of my original argument. In addition, if you look at my rating, I don't rate DGM very highly in a holistic sense among all animes, just an enjoyment one. I actually do not think that only my taste and preference matter more than others, I merely believe that oftentimes--and this is a lucid representation of such a time--I do not fall into the same trap of prioritizing flashy graphics, angst, and hype over the far more important character development. Returning to my assertion, there is nothing, and I truly mean nothing, so far in the 3 episodes of SnK to merit it a spot in the "Top 5" or top #35 (whatever ranking it is on MAL now) of ALL animes in existence. In addition, how can you defend GC when you haven't even watched any of it? Or SAO when you've rated it almost as lowly as I have? Your original statement has no credibility whatsoever. What do my ratings or MAl's top list have to do with a single user's top list? And since DGM is in your top/fav list while you rated low(8 isnt that low anyway)why to do speak about others like they did the worst thing ever? I can defend whatever I want when I see unreasonable hate towards the show or its fans.My rating of SAO has nothing to do with you being a prick towards those that like certain series. If you cant stomach other people's taste then get out of here.MAL doesnt need more of you. Again, your argument relies on very faulty logic: you incorrectly beg the question 3 times in 6 sentences. I have not "[spoken] about others like they did the worst thing ever", and I do not have any "hate towards the show". Nothing you have said undermines the justification I have presented in my argument. Please enumerate anything that has happened thus far in the 3 episodes SnK that would justify it being regarded as a top anime. If you have convincing evidence, I would accede to your claim. However, since that has not been the case and you continue to capitalize on your ad hominem attacks, I find your argument unconvincing. Frankly, it's tiring and silly watching someone like you act all high and mighty as if you're defending the greater good of individual tastes when you directly contradict yourself in your argument. You supposedly defend "other people's tastes" and condemn judgement based on said tastes; yet, in order to do so, you do the exact opposite by criticizing someone's taste for DGM. Let's be honest here, MAL doesn't need more of you and your self-righteousness. |
mkn888 said: Again, your argument relies on very faulty logic: you incorrectly beg the question 3 times in 6 sentences. I have not "[spoken] about others like they did the worst thing ever", and I do not have any "hate towards the show". Nothing you have said undermines the justification I have presented in my argument. Please enumerate anything that has happened thus far in the 3 episodes SnK that would justify it being regarded as a top anime. If you have convincing evidence, I would accede to your claim. However, since that has not been the case and you continue to capitalize on your ad hominem attacks, I find your argument unconvincing. Frankly, it's tiring and silly watching someone like you act all high and mighty as if you're defending the greater good of individual tastes when you directly contradict yourself in your argument. You supposedly defend "other people's tastes" and condemn judgement based on said tastes; yet, in order to do so, you do the exact opposite by criticizing someone's taste for DGM. Let's be honest here, MAL doesn't need more of you and your self-righteousness. uzee said: Both Guilty Crown and SAO are in my top 5 list. If the anime continues like the first episode, this one will be going there as well mkn888 said: Sigh, people like this.... ruin my faith in humanity... Now stop acting like you are the victim.I dont have to respect you or anyone with similar mindset. And SnK is a new series, that happens to be a good so far adaptation of a popular/successful manga series.If you(since you joined in 2008) havent figured out that this happens with EVERY popular series then you are really slow.And I dont need to convince you about SnK or any other anime being worth of their rank. |
ssjokgApr 23, 2013 5:23 PM
| Will it be horrible? So far, I find the pacing, the characters, story, and animation to all be very good. At least, it's all entertaining enough to hold my interest. So, to answer your question; all we can do is keep on watching and find out. I have some pretty high hopes for this anime, and I don't think it'll turn out bad. But we'll see. |
mkn888 said: I swear, MAL is full of idiots.Again, your argument relies on very faulty logic: you incorrectly beg the question 3 times in 6 sentences. I have not "[spoken] about others like they did the worst thing ever", and I do not have any "hate towards the show". Nothing you have said undermines the justification I have presented in my argument. Please enumerate anything that has happened thus far in the 3 episodes SnK that would justify it being regarded as a top anime. If you have convincing evidence, I would accede to your claim. However, since that has not been the case and you continue to capitalize on your ad hominem attacks, I find your argument unconvincing. Frankly, it's tiring and silly watching someone like you act all high and mighty as if you're defending the greater good of individual tastes when you directly contradict yourself in your argument. You supposedly defend "other people's tastes" and condemn judgement based on said tastes; yet, in order to do so, you do the exact opposite by criticizing someone's taste for DGM. Let's be honest here, MAL doesn't need more of you and your self-righteousness. |
AnimeHAwk616 said: mkn888 said: I swear, MAL is full of idiots.Again, your argument relies on very faulty logic: you incorrectly beg the question 3 times in 6 sentences. I have not "[spoken] about others like they did the worst thing ever", and I do not have any "hate towards the show". Nothing you have said undermines the justification I have presented in my argument. Please enumerate anything that has happened thus far in the 3 episodes SnK that would justify it being regarded as a top anime. If you have convincing evidence, I would accede to your claim. However, since that has not been the case and you continue to capitalize on your ad hominem attacks, I find your argument unconvincing. Frankly, it's tiring and silly watching someone like you act all high and mighty as if you're defending the greater good of individual tastes when you directly contradict yourself in your argument. You supposedly defend "other people's tastes" and condemn judgement based on said tastes; yet, in order to do so, you do the exact opposite by criticizing someone's taste for DGM. Let's be honest here, MAL doesn't need more of you and your self-righteousness. Look at this wonderful contribution to the conversation right here, really added tons of depth and perspective.. |
mkn888 said: AnimeHAwk616 said: mkn888 said: I swear, MAL is full of idiots.Again, your argument relies on very faulty logic: you incorrectly beg the question 3 times in 6 sentences. I have not "[spoken] about others like they did the worst thing ever", and I do not have any "hate towards the show". Nothing you have said undermines the justification I have presented in my argument. Please enumerate anything that has happened thus far in the 3 episodes SnK that would justify it being regarded as a top anime. If you have convincing evidence, I would accede to your claim. However, since that has not been the case and you continue to capitalize on your ad hominem attacks, I find your argument unconvincing. Frankly, it's tiring and silly watching someone like you act all high and mighty as if you're defending the greater good of individual tastes when you directly contradict yourself in your argument. You supposedly defend "other people's tastes" and condemn judgement based on said tastes; yet, in order to do so, you do the exact opposite by criticizing someone's taste for DGM. Let's be honest here, MAL doesn't need more of you and your self-righteousness. Look at this wonderful contribution to the conversation right here, really added tons of depth and perspective.. Yeah the first quote of this chain really do that, it's the work of a mastermind |
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| So far this is one of the best and faithful adaptation that I could ever wish for, and couldn't expect for more. I.G is doing a great job. So what are the complains about? If you don't like the anime, it means you don't like the concept, plot/settings, story or even characters of this work. So there's no point to argue. Just move on. But don't degrade the show just because you don't like or it doesn't suit your taste while many people are enjoying themselves. |
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Paul said: royalpink said: It's going to be the new SAO Nothing will beat SAO in terms of being SAO. Nearly 38k posts in its sub forum (as of 1/20/13). Even One Piece hasn't gotten pass 30k with over 500 episodes. So unless this anime gets 400~500+ post per episode discussion, I'd say it'll be more in the level of GC as well. I know this is a necro, but I think we are at 37k posts now... |
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