Kaioshin_Sama said: The other question I'm curious about is what does this trend mean for male seiyuu if anything? It's most likely the same for male seiyuu as well. |
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Hoppy said: So the next generation of idols can do almost anything in the entertainment business, I'm surprised this hasn't started earlier. Because it's not easy to be a meta entertainer. Each profession requires a different skill set: Seiyuu: Voice acting Movie star: Physical acting Singer: Singing ability Model: body ofc Many people think those skills are easily transferable, but those are not unless with the help of representing agency (which is my next point). Most importantly, a meta entertainer has to be skillful at communication to 'charm' the public like what Mimori does in my spoiler video. Older generations of Seiyuu, although participating in regular anime promotional events, are not really out-there promoting themselves like the younger generation. Another reason for a Seiyuu to rise to meta-entertainer is the support of representing agency. Historically, Seiyuu agencies are not fond of investing money into educating their VAs in other fields because a) agencies have to spend a big sum, and b) they risk losing a constant, reliable source of income from voice acting's activities. Not to mention experience is very important in Seiyuu's casting. The more show you have done, the more likely that you are offered new ones or offered main roles. Thus the risk of being "track of all trades, master of none" refrains Seiyuu agencies from moving ahead with the idea. Today, the rise of idol 2.5D helps negate that problem a bit for Seiyuu agencies. In addition, people look across the pond to the successful meta-entertainers of K-Pop industry to revive a model that Japaneses started but were surpassed by Koreans. |
ThangLongAug 13, 2013 10:54 AM
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Yause said: Hoppy said: symbv said: Hoppy said: Hmm.. Idols can do (or are asked to do) almost anything in the entertainment business and this has not changed. The difference is the next generation of SEIYUU is becoming idols, thus they now can be seen to do many things in the entertainment business.So the next generation of idols can do almost anything in the entertainment business, I'm surprised this hasn't started earlier. Hopefully the next generation of seiyuu get compensated better (talk about stressful things will be 2-5 years from now), but from the looks of things, I doubt it. The popular ones are already well compensated, especially if they break free from an agency. This is a business where we have a few big winners and a lot of losers. Bit players (the masses of seiyuu doing the odd secondary role, bit part, etc.) make peanuts, and they'll never be promoted into an idol role. I get the feeling their will be way more bit players, even fewer popular seiyuu, and possibly no middle ground in 5 years. I hate to be in a studio during an audition, the amount of rejections would break my poor soft heart. |
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Kaioshin_Sama said: I think if you look at UtaPrince, Free, and KuroBas you should be able to tell the answer. If anything the idolization is even more advanced in male seiyuu because the enthusiasm of female watchers can often be even more intense and focused. It is reflected in the much stronger effect of event ticket or concert ticket effect for BD/DVD sales for example. The other question I'm curious about is what does this trend mean for male seiyuu if anything? This also creates good business for seiyuu magazines - I think there are perhaps almost 10 (if not more) magazines in Japan that focus only on seiyuu. For example the following magazine Seiyuu Grand Prix had its sales jumped several times because of the cover: |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| *1, 8,680 *8,680 Hatarakou Maou-sama! vol.2 *4, 1,444 *,**1,444 Hatarakou Maou-sama! vol.2 Getting ready for season 2 already |
| Hatarakou Maou-sama!'s sale results gave me a big happy face. Nice to see Free! up there as well in terms of the CD single sales. |
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| really happy to see Hataraku Maou-sama! is doing well can't wait for a second season was my favorite surprise of last season |
parfaited said: Seasons 2 for both, I pray.Hooray for Maou-sama and Splash Free. *throws water at the screen* |
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Edefrem said: parfaited said: Seasons 2 for both, I pray.Hooray for Maou-sama and Splash Free. *throws water at the screen* This pretty much. Maou-sama was a really fun time, and well Free! is just AOTY All Years. :) |
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| I wouldn't mind a second season of Maou-sama. |
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| Yay~ Hataraku first for BD :D I didn't expect Aiura to be third though o.o |
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jmal said: Takei_Hisa said: I didn't expect Aiura to be third though o.o Ranking is very relative, and this was a slow week so it doesn't take much. Next week will be even slower. Yeah, but at least I'll know the ranking for Hinata's character CD. |
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Kaioshin_Sama said: But wait though, are you saying that Love Live uses some form of motion capture or is there something I'm missing here. Do fans in Japan equate the Love Live characters with their voice actress and vice versa or something then. I assume you are asking about 2.5D idol trend? This is what I wrote Love Live! forum a while ago in an attempt to interpret it http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=582325#msg22439223 |
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Hoppy said: Yeah, but at least I'll know the ranking for Hinata's character CD. Since it's Yui Ogura I am expecting solid sales. She is a rising star and a very talented seiyuu. |
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| Maou-Sama is doing well, at least. The rest of that is somewhat depressing. |
| Let's go bowling. |
*8, 32,374 *32,374 Free! ED "Splash Free" This pleases me. Also very happy to see the character songs doing well. |
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| Good to see traumerai selling. Waiting for DxD second OP now that's out in 21st this month. |
 Kickstarter for Rokujouma is fully funded. Good work everyone. Lets wait for the result of our hard work together. |
| LMFAO Leviathan didnt sell any copies. Gonzo, just give it up. |
jmal said: SolviteSekai said: Leviathan didnt sell any copies. Didn't rank. Not the same as "didn't sell any". It's terrible sales either way but let's not overplay it... Its a turn of phrase. |
| wtf is peeping life? peeping life: Tezuka and Tatsunoko Production Wonderland.. looks odd, i'm curious, seems like there is some different animation/ series of peeping life. |
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saiyagok said: You can click on the hyperlink I put along with the title on the chart I posted to see how kind of animation it is like. It leads to the official website of the anime.wtf is peeping life? peeping life: Tezuka and Tatsunoko Production Wonderland.. looks odd, i'm curious, seems like there is some different animation/ series of peeping life. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
DraconisMarch said: Go Hataraku go! |
SolviteSekai said: LMFAO Leviathan didnt sell any copies. Gonzo, just give it up. It's pretty sad because the show actually isn't that bad from what I've seen. Better than one specific show that seems to have taken the anime world by storm... |
| Let's go bowling. |
taketori said: How many volumes do short anime need to sell to roughly break even? 2000 disc sales to break-even |
j0x said: Mind telling us where you find this information?taketori said: 2000 disc sales to break-evenHow many volumes do short anime need to sell to roughly break even? |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
StopDropAndBowl said: SolviteSekai said: LMFAO Leviathan didnt sell any copies. Gonzo, just give it up. It's pretty sad because the show actually isn't that bad from what I've seen. Better than one specific show that seems to have taken the anime world by storm... Haha, oh you! Of course you'd even go through such lengths as comparing 2 almost unrelated animes to bring such a topic up. Your elitism is getting so funny now, because you're a lot more desperate in bringing up how much you hate it - much more than how a casual fan would blurt out in random places about how much he likes his favourite show. On-topic: What's this with people still asking about a 2nd Season of Hataraku? Hasn't this been confirmed on the last episode already? |
Beaver897 said: I don't see any confirmation about a 2nd season in the last episode of Hataraku though.On-topic: What's this with people still asking about a 2nd Season of Hataraku? Hasn't this been confirmed on the last episode already? |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
symbv said: Beaver897 said: I don't see any confirmation about a 2nd season in the last episode of Hataraku though.On-topic: What's this with people still asking about a 2nd Season of Hataraku? Hasn't this been confirmed on the last episode already? Maybe he's got it mixed up with Date a Live |
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kuuderes_shadow said: symbv said: Beaver897 said: I don't see any confirmation about a 2nd season in the last episode of Hataraku though.On-topic: What's this with people still asking about a 2nd Season of Hataraku? Hasn't this been confirmed on the last episode already? Maybe he's got it mixed up with Date a Live Ah, dammit, that is right. All this time, I already thought it was confirmed and such. Shouldn't really change anything, though, because I'm still confident that it will have a 2nd season. |
| Remember though: Good disc sales ≠ 2nd season And... Bad disc sales ≠ no 2nd season You can't imply a second season from good sales or vice versa. There are exceptions to both cases so don't count on or give up hope on your anime series on these numbers alone. |
| ^^^ Daytime anime TV series get paid more than late night stuff but they too rely on a lot of merchandising but the discs are less important. |
murazrai said: But that is because Oshiri Kajiri Mushi is syndicated by NHK, the public broadcaster, which does not need to worry about return and profit for the program. Any decision of a 2nd season is more determined by how worthy NHK deems the program is rather than its merchandising revenue.For anime like Battle Spirits, Danball Senki, B-Daman, PreCure & Pretty Rhythm, this is true. But for anime like Oshiri Kajiri Mushi (this get a second season this fall and gets announced quite early than other kids' anime), that sort or reasoning is a little bit off. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
murazrai said: The title is funny enough! "Ass Biting Bug" could have been a great ecchi late night show however LOLsymbv said: But that is because Oshiri Kajiri Mushi is syndicated by NHK, the public broadcaster, which does not need to worry about return and profit for the program. Any decision of a 2nd season is more determined by how worthy NHK deems the program is rather than its merchandising revenue. That explanation does makes sense. The premise itself is quite funny too. |
Beaver897 said: StopDropAndBowl said: SolviteSekai said: LMFAO Leviathan didnt sell any copies. Gonzo, just give it up. It's pretty sad because the show actually isn't that bad from what I've seen. Better than one specific show that seems to have taken the anime world by storm... Haha, oh you! Of course you'd even go through such lengths as comparing 2 almost unrelated animes to bring such a topic up. Your elitism is getting so funny now, because you're a lot more desperate in bringing up how much you hate it - much more than how a casual fan would blurt out in random places about how much he likes his favourite show. I don't hate the show, I actually find it to be incredibly compelling; especially in terms of sales. I think it reveals a lot about the tastes of the common anime fan when it sells so well as opposed to other shows. Not anything necessarily negative, but definitely says some things about the trends and tastes of the people who drive the industry. And I daresay I'm slightly more interested in the show (and how well it sells) than the casual fan. |
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| That's true, but I still think they wanted the show to do well on it's own. This seemed like a bit of a test-run to see how well the franchise could be built, and especially at how well using anime to market something else works. Maybe the anime did enough to boost game-sales/merchandising/exposure to justify the cost, but I kind of doubt it. Besides, there are other low selling anime. |
| Let's go bowling. |
bippo said: ^ Zettai Bouei is a gree mobage by the way. And a popular one to boot. You don't see many mobage being adapted into anime. That alone makes this show already a success regardless of "bluray" sales. Zettai Bouei franchise is literally swimming in money (well...e-money) as of the moment, they don't really care if the anime sells 10 copies or not. That game looks severely below average, granted it's nowhere near as bad as Fantasista Doll Girls Royale but still, pretty much yawnworthy. |
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| Zettai Bouei Leviathan is one of those anime that the BD/DVD fails to sell at all but somehow many people have watched it and know about it. The recent re-broadcast with a new flash video extra at each episode still generates buzzes and talks in forums and blogs in Japan. And merchandise is already being released for the franchise... |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
symbv said: Zettai Bouei Leviathan is one of those anime that the BD/DVD fails to sell at all but somehow many people have watched it and know about it. The recent re-broadcast with a new flash video extra at each episode still generates buzzes and talks in forums and blogs in Japan. And merchandise is already being released for the franchise... I haven't seen any figures or nendoroids though, but seen a daki of Levia and various mugs and card sleeves. |
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Hoppy said: Yeah, this is why I said merchandise is being released instead of figures being released :-) although I have a feeling that figures will come sooner or later...I haven't seen any figures or nendoroids though, but seen a daki of Levia and various mugs and card sleeves. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
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