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Jul 19, 2013 10:30 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Casual clothes Hajime is the miracle of the universe. Sugune is looking pretty good too. They did a nice job establishing her character this episode. I hope people can understand her character a bit more now.


Hajime can reverse the "messing up" of MESS I, this is the thing "the thing gatchaman have never done before"


"Yo sup"

Wow Mamoru needs to calm down.
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Oh so she can cook~

Mm, episode felt a bit slow but the atmosphere was cherry.
Paiman is funny :>



Revenge of the rubix cube~
Decent OST I guess.
Jul 19, 2013 10:34 AM
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Lots of bright colors again. I kinda liked it. "You failed to kill the enemy cuz you took life lightly." That line was deep. The black bikini girl reminded me of Lum from Urusei Yatsura. The female lead acted like an airhead again. Haha
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yes YES YES
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Jul 19, 2013 10:38 AM
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Hajime gonna Hajime.

Rui is incredibly lewd and is calling my sexuality into question. Knock that off.

And this ended up being important, though much sooner than I expected:
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Kenji Nakamura has a great sense of aesthetics and design. Her on that background with the colors all looks like you could imagine it being a model posing in a fashion magazine or something.
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Jul 19, 2013 10:47 AM
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Seems that the MESS aren't inherently evil. Pretty good build-up episode.
Jul 19, 2013 10:49 AM
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Amarrez said:
Hajime gonna Hajime.

Rui is incredibly lewd and is calling my sexuality into question. Knock that off.

And this ended up being important, though much sooner than I expected:

Wow nice catch! I thought nothing of it when he first said it. Well keep a eye out for more J.J. foreshadowing.
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eminagnam said:
Lots of bright colors again. I kinda liked it. "You failed to kill the enemy cuz you took life lightly." That line was deep. The black bikini girl reminded me of Lum from Urusei Yatsura. The female lead acted like an airhead again. Haha


Sugune's line wasn't deep. It was misguided. And Hajime showed him!!

Really, Hajime was so OP in this episode. She's not an airhead. She's just an eccentric genius.
Jul 19, 2013 11:59 AM

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Wow I'm surprised at all the threads Kenji Nakamura was able to intertwine/flesh out this episode without flatout saying them : O

GALAX: That social commentary!!!(Getting points for helping strangers? C'mon Nakamura :P). Once GALAX has a 100% connection rate with people how would it backfire? Rui obviously wants the world to rely on it but for what purpose? Alarms started ringing as soon as the bystander said they only need GALAX in their society

MESS: Possibly controlled by Berg Katse with the ooze? Interested to see how they fit into everything

Hajime-su: Anyone who still thinks she's stupid/has brain deficiency is the stupid one

OD: Was subtly hinted last week but even more so this week. Definitely something up with him

Gatchaman/JJ: Seems being a Gatchaman might not be as Black and White as it sounds


Lastly, WTF was with Berg Katse? O.o
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Whoah, the mess not being 'evil' caught me of guard, and the whole ending did too. 'GALAX' seems like an awesome app, but i'm feeling uneasy about it.
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1idd0kun said:
eminagnam said:
Lots of bright colors again. I kinda liked it. "You failed to kill the enemy cuz you took life lightly." That line was deep. The black bikini girl reminded me of Lum from Urusei Yatsura. The female lead acted like an airhead again. Haha
Sugune's line wasn't deep. It was misguided. And Hajime showed him!!
Really, Hajime was so OP in this episode. She's not an airhead. She's just an eccentric genius.
Agree with 1idd0kun. It really boggles mind to call her an airhead in this episode. She may look like one in the last episode but she turns out not to be one as is revealed in this episode. And I also think the line is not deep.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
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Man, I really love the characters/character designs in this show.. from the streaks in the characters' hair to their clothing, I love everything about them.
Especially Hajime and Sugane.

And I'm really digging the OST. Especially the music during the second MESS encounter in the episode.

I'm glad they started to explain more of the story. Especially GALAX and how basically everybody, even the mayor, is active on it. All the things Hajime discovered/did, even though she's the noobie.. pretty interesting so far.
Does GALAX remind anyone else of the "Oz" program from Summer Wars?
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Actually scared to watch ep2.. oh well.. will download it later today D:
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So scissors are the shit this season?
Jul 19, 2013 12:33 PM

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Misiakk said:
So scissors are the shit this season?

They were the shit last season with Dansai Bunri, and they'll be the shit next season with Kill La Kill.

Scissors are awesome, man.
Jul 19, 2013 12:35 PM

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I think I flipping love this show. Especially Hajime. XD Best. Character. EVER!!!
Few maxims have done as much harm as, "Children should be seen and not heard."
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Amarrez said:
Misiakk said:
So scissors are the shit this season?

They were the shit last season with Dansai Bunri, and they'll be the shit next season with Kill La Kill.

Scissors are awesome, man.


Scissors were main thing in Nazo no Kanojo X, now in Inu to Hasami wa Tsukaiyou and Gatchaman Crowds as well. They are all over the place ;D
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I think I flipping love this show. Especially Hajime. XD Best. Character. EVER!!!
this.
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It has been only two episodes but Hajime already snuck her way into my heart. Her vibrant and eccentric personality is simply infectious and I really like how she questions the set of principles the other Gatchaman members adhered to until now.
Her creativity and her ability to think outside the box are truly valuable aspects of her character, as she is capable of connecting people no matter what social status they belong to.

Whereas she only appeared as a playful and somewhat careless student last week, she is revealed as an outgoing ad smart girl who is highly engaged in social activities and tries to make the world a better place, not through eliminating potential threats but through communication and building connections.
It was highly satisfying to see her calling out Sugine for his narrow-mindedness and his lack of interpersonal skills.

I don't think it's a coincidence that the MESS' "tentacles" are shaped like nerve fibers which look like they are forming synapses when they attach themselves to something. It will be interesting to see why they absorb people in the process, though.

It is heavily implied that Rui Ninomiya is the "Bird with sundered wings" JJ speaks of especially since she possesses one of the Notes. It looks like she is the driving force behind GALAX, and while we have only been shown positive sides of it, the incident with Bergkatze (who's probably the one JJ meant with the chaos that's not necessarily a threat) raises questions on how ethically justifiable her actions are to bring people together as shown in the end by recruting help for the injured through GALAX.

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So Utsu tsu can make copies of herself or something..
Yeah, I think this episode prove's that Hajime is in fact, not retarded.
Also that social networking site, GALAX, is pretty awesome and I think it's going to play a big role in this series.
Gotta love dat OST.

Really loving this series so far, can't wait to see where they go with this.
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Good episode. A bit confusing
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I think it's important to note that Rui did the same thing at the end of the episode that Hajime did at the beginning of episode 1.

Saying "I'm hungry" even though there's plenty of food around that they're not eating. Kindred spirits, I suppose?
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Amarrez said:

Saying "I'm hungry" even though there's plenty of food around that they're not eating. Kindred spirits, I suppose?


Opening implicate that much.

For me Utsu-tsu is the best character so far ;D
Jul 19, 2013 1:20 PM
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No panty shots?!
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This show just grabs my attention.
I can't stop watching Hajime. At first glance she'd be the character i'd find the most annoying but she's not.
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eminagnam said:
Lots of bright colors again. I kinda liked it. "You failed to kill the enemy cuz you took life lightly." That line was deep. The black bikini girl reminded me of Lum from Urusei Yatsura. The female lead acted like an airhead again. Haha

Agreed. That line was surely deep. And she acted like a fool. Probably that's the creator's intention.

1idd0kun said:
Sugune's line wasn't deep. It was misguided. And Hajime showed him!!

Really, Hajime was so OP in this episode. She's not an airhead. She's just an eccentric genius.

It was deep. Hajime was just lucky coz she was a genius like you said. But if she was not a genius, she should follow his advice. Basically that teaching is useful for non-genius. And Sugune didn't know she was such a genius. So it was a proper advice.

As for *airhead,* no one said she was an airhead. She isn't an airhead but acted like that. It's why Sugune said to her, "Are you a fool?" at the battle. Also it *looked* stupid when she walked up to JJ at risk of falling down. She didn't fall down coz she was not stupid. But it *looked* stupid.

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Agree with 1idd0kun. It really boggles mind to call her an airhead in this episode. She may look like one in the last episode but she turns out not to be one as is revealed in this episode. And I also think the line is not deep.

No one said she was an airhead. She isn't an airhead, but she acted like that. And probably the creator's intention is make her *seemingly* airhead. Otherwise they wouldn't have made her act like that. And I think it's a good idea. Execution about her is well-done to *deceive* viewers.
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It was fun! A bit slow, but I enjoyed it.

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eminagnam said:
Lots of bright colors again. I kinda liked it. "You failed to kill the enemy cuz you took life lightly." That line was deep. The black bikini girl reminded me of Lum from Urusei Yatsura. The female lead acted like an airhead again. Haha

Agreed. That line was surely deep. And she acted like a fool. Probably that's the creator's intention.

1idd0kun said:
Sugune's line wasn't deep. It was misguided. And Hajime showed him!!

Really, Hajime was so OP in this episode. She's not an airhead. She's just an eccentric genius.

It was deep. Hajime was just lucky coz she was a genius like you said. But if she was not a genius, she should follow his advice. Basically that teaching is useful for non-genius. And Sugune didn't know she was such a genius. So it was a proper advice.

As for *airhead,* no one said she was an airhead. She isn't an airhead but acted like that. It's why Sugune said to her, "Are you a fool?" at the battle. Also it *looked* stupid when she walked up to JJ at risk of falling down. She didn't fall down coz she was not stupid. But it *looked* stupid.

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Agree with 1idd0kun. It really boggles mind to call her an airhead in this episode. She may look like one in the last episode but she turns out not to be one as is revealed in this episode. And I also think the line is not deep.

No one said she was an airhead. She isn't an airhead, but she acted like that. And probably the creator's intention is make her *seemingly* airhead. Otherwise they wouldn't have made her act like that. And I think it's a good idea. Execution about her is well-done to *deceive* viewers.

I agree wholeheartedly. There's no need to ruin entertainment. I'm willing to be *deceived* by the creator in order to enjoy the show. :)
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Good episode. And I was surprised that Hajime just walk off and sat beside JJ. Now, that kid at the ending might be an ex- Gatchaman. He seems to be important as shown in the OP.

And speaking of the OP song, it's addicting.
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I have to say the whole idea behind "GALAX" is pretty interested. I'm almost tempted to look into the probability of being able to program a system similar to it.
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Oh man great episode. Hajime is becoming such an amazing character and I like that little twist they left with us at the end with Rui having Gatchaman notebook. I can't wait for the next ep.
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Well the lines that exist between the concepts of being an airhead, being ridiculously lucky and being illogically clairvoyant to the point of durational omniscience are quite thin.

When she stepped down at JJ's meeting onto what seemed to be empty space, one must consider a few things before simply reaching the conclusion that she's not stupid.
1. Is there any possible observation she could've made or deduction from known facts that will reach the conclusion that the empty space is actually not empty?
2. If not, then wouldn't assuming that she knew that the empty space wasn't empty before she stepped on it mean that she had some means of some sort to either tell the future(clairvoyant) or she must've known about the construct of the alien structure from prior knowledge?
3. If the above are both not true(considering she's NOT stupid and she's does NOT know anything about the floor prior to stepping on it), then wouldn't the only logical deduction about her be something closer to: Lucky as heck?

The show itself is going into interesting places though. Second episode has the "enemies" debunked already. Gonna be looking forward to the next one.
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Misiakk said:
Amarrez said:
Misiakk said:
So scissors are the shit this season?

They were the shit last season with Dansai Bunri, and they'll be the shit next season with Kill La Kill.

Scissors are awesome, man.


Scissors were main thing in Nazo no Kanojo X, now in Inu to Hasami wa Tsukaiyou and Gatchaman Crowds as well. They are all over the place ;D


2013 is the Year of the Scissors.

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Oh man I am enjoying this show.
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She bedazzled her NOTE lol.
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I really like the show.

Shame there were some budget and/or scheduling problems, though:
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3. If the above are both not true(considering she's NOT stupid and she's does NOT know anything about the floor prior to stepping on it), then wouldn't the only logical deduction about her be something closer to: Lucky as heck?


I think that scene shows that she's special. Look at JJ's expression when Hajime says she "thinks she saw something" among the paper birds. Going by JJ's surprised look there, I'd say whatever Hajime saw isn't something a normal human should be able to see. So I don't think it's luck that she didn't fall to her dead. She probably knew it, but not with her brain. With her feelings.


Now, putting that scene aside, Hajime is smart. An airhead wouldn't be as self-aware as she is. It's because she's deeply aware of her surroundings too that she noticed the MESS was behaving strange, which clued her in that she could tame the thing without fighting it.
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Really loved this scene:



Hajime is so cute! :P
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It has been only two episodes but Hajime already snuck her way into my heart.

Same here. I like this more than I expected. It's a nice change.


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The first half of the episode I didn't really know what was going on and it was kinda boring. I was thinking about dropping it until they showed how the GALAX can be used for more than just a game. It's such a novel idea and I really want to see how they proceed with it. None of the characters are really that interesting to me, at least yet. The art style is also a little off putting to me but I'll deal with it. The BGM is fantastic!
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Why is Hajime so perfect?

Still loving the shit out of this show. So fabulous.
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This is the worst female main character i have ever seen...
How can you like her? She is dumb and acts like a little kid. She shows no sign of intelligence or character development at all...
Her accent annoys me and for me she is pretty much ruining this anime...
Dropped with 2/10...
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The show itself is going into interesting places though.


That it does, it started so well in the 1st ep that I was almost scared to watch the second, I really hope it will continue to be as strong if not stronger.

I love what they did with the BG music during the fight. Sugane is a contrast to Hajime and JJ intrigues me. I'm very curious how the Prime Minister and that idol will come to play.

Also loved the part where Paiman lectures her about her questioning orders because it just isn't done (and really when it ever done so early in a story), that scene was very clever.

And the line where she basically says: I'm not "you" I'm Hajime, I exist (I get the feeling that this is a very important line and probably a big clue about Hajime herself) There is also an interesting theme about positive feelings (Hajime) vs negative feelings (Katze) that got played in this episode. Another one was accepting who you are (Hajime) and wanting to be someone else (Rui)

The conversations with Sugone were interesting as well: Hajime showed that she is quite logical in her reasoning and very perceptive (both about Paiman and Sugone). She actually explained the way she thinks in one of these conversations: she thinks outside the box and is open to possibilities.

About the door: it's no coincidence that it's #1. It goes back to the original Gatchaman and Hajime being the "hero", the main protagonist and in original series the "hero" was #1 . It's quite convincing that she (arrogantly) assumes that she is the hero, she is confident enough for that.

Arg.. there is so much going on, my head is about to explode!
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So scissors are the shit this season?

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Eudaimonia said:
It has been only two episodes but Hajime already snuck her way into my heart.

Same here. I like this more than I expected. It's a nice change.
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She shows no sign of intelligence

what
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Heh, there are things about that nameless villain which remind me of Grell a bit, a very good thing. And yes, it seems GALAX is already starting to spawn some worrying things with how involved everyone is along with what that one witness said about not needing physical help.
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She shows no sign of intelligence or character development at all....



Lol, you shouldn't post if you didn't watch the episode.
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AAAAH WHY IS THIS SO GOOD.

Even better than episode one. ;_;
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eminagnam said:
Lots of bright colors again. I kinda liked it. "You failed to kill the enemy cuz you took life lightly." That line was deep. The black bikini girl reminded me of Lum from Urusei Yatsura. The female lead acted like an airhead again. Haha
Sugune's line wasn't deep. It was misguided. And Hajime showed him!!
Really, Hajime was so OP in this episode. She's not an airhead. She's just an eccentric genius.
Agree with 1idd0kun. It really boggles mind to call her an airhead in this episode. She may look like one in the last episode but she turns out not to be one as is revealed in this episode. And I also think the line is not deep.

Ah yes, this ^
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