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Jul 14, 2013 12:44 AM

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Nice surprising episode.
Jul 14, 2013 12:47 AM

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This is like Ace Attorney the anime but with high school kids, and well yeah the death penalty. AWESOME!
Jul 14, 2013 1:36 AM

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Naegi in the ED. Is the current Naegi an imposter?
Jul 14, 2013 1:52 AM

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FlamingYu said:
Naegi in the ED. Is the current Naegi an imposter?


There's no special/deep meaning with Naegi in the ED. Yes, it will show the deceased, but Naegi is just there.

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Jul 14, 2013 2:02 AM

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Great episode! Two people are dead, I guess it's a fitting pace, considering there is only 13 episodes. I kinda liked both of them, but well.
I have a feeling that the dead tsundere girl was the murderer, don't know why.
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Jul 14, 2013 2:41 AM

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It was ok I guess. The side characters didn't seem to think about the situation at all and just accused the MC with nearly zero proof. I suppose this would be good if it happens in a game but doesn't work so well in an anime.
Jul 14, 2013 2:57 AM

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It's still lacking the horror concept for me tho.
No suspense either :(
And the whole trialing reminds me of Yoshiki Tonogai's "Judge" manga crossed over with Kujo Karuna's Aphorism manga with Persona art.

I hope it gets better tbh.
Jul 14, 2013 3:05 AM

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R0LAN said:
It's still lacking the horror concept for me tho.
No suspense either :(.


Dangan Ronpa is not horror, nor it is a suspense. The ones who wrote it on the MAL info, doesn't know shit about Dangan Ronpa, and seriously DR is "Action? Effing no.
The only thing that was right is Mystery and Psychological. DR is not a slasher movie and all of the killing usually happen off screen from the protagonist POV.

Dangan Ronpa is like a mix of Case closed, Ace Attorney but with Crack.
"Japanese murder mystery visual novel" from wikipedia


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Jul 14, 2013 3:32 AM
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Two down.
I wonder who killed our idol.
How nice the color of the blood. Pink?
Jul 14, 2013 6:38 AM

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chikuita0621 said:
Two down.
I wonder who killed our idol.
How nice the color of the blood. Pink?
I'm guessing you haven't read the previous comments?
Please learn about cel animation and its technical process.
Learn how special effects and backlighting were done without computers.

Jul 14, 2013 6:56 AM

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Why the fk they altered the blood color
Jul 14, 2013 7:00 AM

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samesdday said:
Why the fk they altered the blood color
read one of the 10 billion other posts about this before you

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Jul 14, 2013 8:33 AM

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DJIzzyIzzyHitler said:
samesdday said:
Why the fk they altered the blood color
read one of the 10 billion other posts about this before you


The people posting such ignorant comments will receive Monokuma's special execution
Jul 14, 2013 9:07 AM
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There was a lot more suspense in the game, though. Hopefully the tension builds up towards the end, although I'm worried about it only being 13 episodes..
And I hope they pick up on the black comedy aspect of it too, That's what makes DGRP so special :d
Jul 14, 2013 9:49 AM

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And I hope they pick up on the black comedy aspect of it too, That's what makes DGRP so special :d
yah i dont think the anime is having any problem with that

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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Sakura is a girl? Woah... I seriously didn't know. Yeah, her chest seemed female-ish but I thought it is a macho guy so...
Jul 14, 2013 10:02 AM

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Although we see supernatural things, strange powers and all that in anime i just have a hard time accepting the godly status of that stupid bear in this anime. Just kill the fucking thing again and again. And just how the fuck does it work that he can do all that shit? I just can't believe they are going along so easily.No one looked from where those things that pierced that girl came from? Where could the bear shoot something at you?
Anyway for some reason i feel it's more stupid that other similar stuff and non original at all actually. Such concepts have been made dozens of times.
i guess it all comes from the fact that it was a game. If you play investigator in the game the whole investigating can be fun but watching an anime where some stupid bear is god just doesn't work as good.
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Jul 14, 2013 10:04 AM

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It's a bit sad to see my ship being destroyed this fast! :( The anime really looks like a game with the items shown. :P
Jul 14, 2013 10:09 AM

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Monad said:
Although we see supernatural things, strange powers and all that in anime i just have a hard time accepting the godly status of that stupid bear in this anime. Just kill the fucking thing again and again. And just how the fuck does it work that he can do all that shit? I just can't believe they are going along so easily.No one looked from where those things that pierced that girl came from? Where could the bear shoot something at you?
Anyway for some reason i feel it's more stupid that other similar stuff and non original at all actually. Such concepts have been made dozens of times.
i guess it all comes from hat fact that it was a game. If you play investigator in the game the whole investigating can be fun but watching an anime where some stupid bear is god just doesn't work as good.
I can't blame you there. My first impression when I play this game is that there are supernatural things involved but I was wrong. Let's just say Monokuma as well as the school got highly advanced technology that we never know. There are no supernatural things involved. I can vouch for that.

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Jul 14, 2013 10:10 AM
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Man, the next villain need to think out of the box.

Kill someone and make no one know?
Too hard.

Much easier to just kill all of them. Throw knife, burn with gas stove, trap them on a room by calling a 'meeting' or fabricating a story that you found a way out or found a flaw in mono bear's scheme, etc.

Or, just DON'T kill. And start doing some real investigations.

Mono bear already give a clue that the school still connected to outside world when he explains food in refrigerator.

Be FRIEND with mono bear. He won't kill u.

Really, the only person that thinking clearly only that purple haired girl with poker face. But she need to think out of the box.

Btw this problem are not exclusively a bad feature of danganronpa. Lots of other anime, movie, games have the same problem.

But, danganronpa clearly ask the viewer to think. So this problem become a shore thumb for me.
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orangpelupa said:
Man, the next villain need to think out of the box.

Kill someone and make no one know?
Too hard.

Much easier to just kill all of them. Throw knife, burn with gas stove, trap them on a room by calling a 'meeting' or fabricating a story that you found a way out or found a flaw in mono bear's scheme, etc.

Well teh game and likley 2 episodes from now adress this when someone asks monobear a certain thing, ill spoiler tag it since it hasnt happened yet. its not a actual spoiler though,

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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orangpelupa said:
Man, the next villain need to think out of the box.

Kill someone and make no one know?
Too hard.

Much easier to just kill all of them. Throw knife, burn with gas stove, trap them on a room by calling a 'meeting' or fabricating a story that you found a way out or found a flaw in mono bear's scheme, etc.

Or, just DON'T kill. And start doing some real investigations.

Mono bear already give a clue that the school still connected to outside world when he explains food in refrigerator.

Be FRIEND with mono bear. He won't kill u.

Really, the only person that thinking clearly only that purple haired girl with poker face. But she need to think out of the box.

Btw this problem are not exclusively a bad feature of danganronpa. Lots of other anime, movie, games have the same problem.

But, danganronpa clearly ask the viewer to think. So this problem become a shore thumb for me.


Well, you'll see as the story goes on why all the things you've said doesn't work AT ALL. And trying to make friends with Monobear is like trying to make friends with a deranged sociopathic maniac, doesn't really work. Not to mention he's connected with the mastermind behind everything. And they've already searched the whole school and found no way out of it, which is why they are so freaked out. On top of that, there's Monobear, who's keep providing the terrified students with more "motivation." Or are you trying to say they should break open that steel door or something? Plus, they do continue doing more investigation of the school, as the story continues. Again, please stop judging the show before you see all of it.
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@hitler lol mono bear. Willy nilly making his own rules. Just like mono bear I know :-P

@suynk
I specifically mentioned the 'refrigerator'

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Btw mono bear reminds me of GLaDOS.
love the deadly puzzles and the our of the box solutions :-D
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Monad said:
Although we see supernatural things, strange powers and all that in anime i just have a hard time accepting the godly status of that stupid bear in this anime. Just kill the fucking thing again and again. And just how the fuck does it work that he can do all that shit? I just can't believe they are going along so easily.No one looked from where those things that pierced that girl came from? Where could the bear shoot something at you?
Anyway for some reason i feel it's more stupid that other similar stuff and non original at all actually. Such concepts have been made dozens of times.
i guess it all comes from hat fact that it was a game. If you play investigator in the game the whole investigating can be fun but watching an anime where some stupid bear is god just doesn't work as good.


Well, the thing about DGRP is that it take ridiculousness into a whole another level, so you can't really apply real world logic in here. The mastermind behind this has a super advanced technology which enables all this, that's all we know for now. It's a matter of taste, so I can't really blame you for not liking the bizarreness of it.
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suynk said:
Monad said:
Although we see supernatural things, strange powers and all that in anime i just have a hard time accepting the godly status of that stupid bear in this anime. Just kill the fucking thing again and again. And just how the fuck does it work that he can do all that shit? I just can't believe they are going along so easily.No one looked from where those things that pierced that girl came from? Where could the bear shoot something at you?
Anyway for some reason i feel it's more stupid that other similar stuff and non original at all actually. Such concepts have been made dozens of times.
i guess it all comes from hat fact that it was a game. If you play investigator in the game the whole investigating can be fun but watching an anime where some stupid bear is god just doesn't work as good.


Well, the thing about DGRP is that it take ridiculousness into a whole another level, so you can't really apply real world logic in here. The mastermind behind this has a super advanced technology which enables all this, that's all we know for now. It's a matter of taste, so I can't really blame you for not liking the bizarreness of it.


But that what am talking about. We see bizarre shit in anime all the time yet for some reason i find this lacking something. I already suspected it has more to do with some dude having advance shit(not that it any less unrealistic than super ability or something) but in general i feel unsatisfied by it.

Anyway if he doesn't like his little bear getting hurt then braking it actually is the way to go.
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orangpelupa said:
@hitler lol mono bear. Willy nilly making his own rules. Just like mono bear I know :-P

@suynk
I specifically mentioned the 'refrigerator'

Edit.
Btw mono bear reminds me of GLaDOS.
love the deadly puzzles and the our of the box solutions :-D


Yes, I know, but I'm just saying that it'll be explained later on why this is happening to the characters. And even if they happen to find a escape route or something, it's not like Monobear is just going to let them escape. Again, I don't really want to spoil anything, so I hope you don't take everything so complicatedly and think of them as questions that may be explained later. And then you can decide for yourself whether the series did a good job or not :d
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Monad said:
suynk said:
Monad said:
Although we see supernatural things, strange powers and all that in anime i just have a hard time accepting the godly status of that stupid bear in this anime. Just kill the fucking thing again and again. And just how the fuck does it work that he can do all that shit? I just can't believe they are going along so easily.No one looked from where those things that pierced that girl came from? Where could the bear shoot something at you?
Anyway for some reason i feel it's more stupid that other similar stuff and non original at all actually. Such concepts have been made dozens of times.
i guess it all comes from hat fact that it was a game. If you play investigator in the game the whole investigating can be fun but watching an anime where some stupid bear is god just doesn't work as good.


Well, the thing about DGRP is that it take ridiculousness into a whole another level, so you can't really apply real world logic in here. The mastermind behind this has a super advanced technology which enables all this, that's all we know for now. It's a matter of taste, so I can't really blame you for not liking the bizarreness of it.


But that what am talking about. We see bizarre shit in anime all the time yet for some reason i find this lacking something. I already suspected it has more to do with some dude having advance shit(not that it any less unrealistic than super ability or something) but in general i feel unsatisfied by it.

Anyway if he doesn't like his little bear getting hurt then braking it actually is the way to go.


Well that's called suspension of disbelief, isn't it? This is just one of those animes that requires much more of that than some of the other more "realistic" animes. It's just its style, and many people like it for being so ridiculous.
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Monad said:
Anyway if he doesn't like his little bear getting hurt then braking it actually is the way to go.


There's a possibility that there are more Monobears than you think.
Remember the first one that Mondo strangles and it self-destructs. Another one appeared non-nonchalantly from behind the podium. So, it isn't weird that the mastermind would have plenty of others as backup.

He's not godly though.

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kaimax said:
Monad said:
Anyway if he doesn't like his little bear getting hurt then braking it actually is the way to go.


There's a possibility that there are more Monobears than you think.
Remember the first one that Mondo strangles and it self-destructs. Another one appeared non-nonchalantly from behind the podium. So, it isn't weird that the mastermind would have plenty of others as backup.

He's not godly though.


Besides, if you don't obey the bear, you get killed, so why would you even risk that when the bear already has plenty of backup?

The students are all unarmed, mostly weak teenagers. The bear isn't godly, it just has enough weapons and technologies to threaten and control the students.
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That episode made me want to play the PSP game now, I liked it very much!

It's a pity that two of the best girls died first, though.



Btw: Time to kill some guys, huh? xD I'm satisfied as long as Kirigiri is alive.



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Haptism93 said:
That episode made me want to play the PSP game now, I liked it very much!

It's a pity that two of the best girls died first, though.



Btw: Time to kill some guys, huh? xD I'm satisfied as long as Kirigiri is alive.


You should play the game if you like it. Just be careful not to get spoilered every week XD Just searching for Danganronpa on websites like google or youtube would get you spoilered like crazy
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I think it'd be better to play the game because the anime is kind of awful at this point. Everything is rushed. There's no attempt to build any kind of atmosphere, the characters get little or no screen time to get any personality. It looks like they've tried to stuff a big game into a 13 episode anime and are going to butcher anything good about it in the process.

The character designs are too goofy, monobear over the top for me to take anything seriously. Those would still be present in the game, but it's the pacing that's killing this at the moment. The second girl that died left so little impression on me that I struggle trying to even remember her face. There's no time to stop and breath, to take stock of what is going on.
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I think it'd be better to play the game because the anime is kind of awful at this point. Everything is rushed. There's no attempt to build any kind of atmosphere, the characters get little or no screen time to get any personality. It looks like they've tried to stuff a big game into a 13 episode anime and are going to butcher anything good about it in the process.

The character designs are too goofy, monobear over the top for me to take anything seriously. Those would still be present in the game, but it's the pacing that's killing this at the moment. The second girl that died left so little impression on me that I struggle trying to even remember her face. There's no time to stop and breath, to take stock of what is going on.


That's why even the anime staff advised the fans to play the game first before watching the anime. I just hope this doesn't turn into one of those animes that only previous game fans can enjoy.
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suynk said:
Itoukaiji said:
I think it'd be better to play the game because the anime is kind of awful at this point. Everything is rushed. There's no attempt to build any kind of atmosphere, the characters get little or no screen time to get any personality. It looks like they've tried to stuff a big game into a 13 episode anime and are going to butcher anything good about it in the process.

The character designs are too goofy, monobear over the top for me to take anything seriously. Those would still be present in the game, but it's the pacing that's killing this at the moment. The second girl that died left so little impression on me that I struggle trying to even remember her face. There's no time to stop and breath, to take stock of what is going on.


That's why even the anime staff advised the fans to play the game first before watching the anime. I just hope this doesn't turn into one of those animes that only previous game fans can enjoy.


Animes first and foremost especially for an adaptation is to promote the original source. They just have to make it interesting enough so that more people will want to play the game. Complaining about thing that is "not in the game" is only from you guys who played the game.

Let the new viewers decide for themselves.

Not being biased to the game, this anime is already a good adaptation . It's pretty much faithful to almost every aspect except the pacing and the obvious cut outs, which happens in every adaptation.
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Itoukaiji said:
I think it'd be better to play the game because the anime is kind of awful at this point. Everything is rushed. There's no attempt to build any kind of atmosphere, the characters get little or no screen time to get any personality. It looks like they've tried to stuff a big game into a 13 episode anime and are going to butcher anything good about it in the process.

The character designs are too goofy, monobear over the top for me to take anything seriously. Those would still be present in the game, but it's the pacing that's killing this at the moment. The second girl that died left so little impression on me that I struggle trying to even remember her face. There's no time to stop and breath, to take stock of what is going on.


Literally the only things that have been different in this adaptation is that the pacing is a little faster than it is in the game (Which is the case with literally every game adaptation anime. Intros are usually much longer than 20 minutes, but regardless of how many episodes you have, splitting up an intro into multiple) and they skipped a bit of background information on Sayaka, a character who get the majority of her character depth from her trial and was also only ever really there to be a decoy heroine.
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kaimax said:
suynk said:
Itoukaiji said:
I think it'd be better to play the game because the anime is kind of awful at this point. Everything is rushed. There's no attempt to build any kind of atmosphere, the characters get little or no screen time to get any personality. It looks like they've tried to stuff a big game into a 13 episode anime and are going to butcher anything good about it in the process.

The character designs are too goofy, monobear over the top for me to take anything seriously. Those would still be present in the game, but it's the pacing that's killing this at the moment. The second girl that died left so little impression on me that I struggle trying to even remember her face. There's no time to stop and breath, to take stock of what is going on.


That's why even the anime staff advised the fans to play the game first before watching the anime. I just hope this doesn't turn into one of those animes that only previous game fans can enjoy.


Animes first and foremost especially for an adaptation is to promote the original source. They just have to make it interesting enough so that more people will want to play the game. Complaining about thing that is "not in the game" is only from you guys who played the game.

Let the new viewers decide for themselves.

Not being biased to the game, this anime is already a good adaptation . It's pretty much faithful to almost every aspect except the pacing and the obvious cut outs, which happens in every adaptation.


I only said it because @Itoukaiji seemed to not have played the game :/ It works fine for me, since I already know the story and the characters, but I've already heard a lot of newcomers say that it's going to fast for them. And you have to admit the pacing is pretty bad so far, though I don't really mind it so far since the most important parts aren't here yet, and I've expected that much from a 13-episode adaptation.
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And you have to admit the pacing is pretty bad so far


No, you don't. The pacing isn't exactly great, but if you think it is 'bad', then you do not even know what truly bad pacing is like.
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I like how some people play dumb even thou' they know ......
Dont worry , your acting is bad if even I can see through it.
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suynk said:
And you have to admit the pacing is pretty bad so far


No, you don't. The pacing isn't exactly great, but if you think it is 'bad', then you do not even know what truly bad pacing is like.


Well, sorry for not wording it correctly, then. I don't see any problems with the pacing other than the lack of some character introduction, but a lot of newcomers seemed to be confused here because of the fast pacing. That's only what I meant to say.
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If there wasn't enough evidence for the correct killer here, I would have guessed that it would be someone unlikely, such as Ishimaru or Chihiro. I could tell what had happened very quickly in the game, but in the anime, speeding through the evidence added to the mystery.

Then again, in hindsight, several more things were more obvious after finishing the game, such as:
(major spoiler)
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I like how some people play dumb even thou' they know ......
Dont worry , your acting is bad if even I can see through it.


Pretty ironic coming from you.
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HiddenDoorway said:
BloodyNightsky said:
I like how some people play dumb even thou' they know ......
Dont worry , your acting is bad if even I can see through it.


Pretty ironic coming from you.


I'm not allowed to say what I know , I dont act like I dont know .....
I deleted my posts and the mod that got rid of the quotes of my spoilers adviced me to not post what I did previously . You should know better what happened few days ago when I posted things I figured out . Let's not start a flame again .
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That puzzle is way too easy
I didnt even play the game.

ah well. 3/5
Maybe if it wasnt so obvious
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PEOPLE, JUST PLEASE STOP GIVING MAJOR SPOILERS. If you played the game and know what happens, great. Let's keep it that way where YOU know what happens because the rest of us will figure that out ourselves, or we'll be watching it in the next place. Don't go around in the SECOND EPISODE DISCUSSION giving freaking spoilers for the end. THERE IS A PLACE AND TIME FOR THAT. READ THE SITUATION. THANK YOU .

/sigh
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Itermin8rX said:
That puzzle is way too easy
I didnt even play the game.

ah well. 3/5
Maybe if it wasnt so obvious


Don't worry about that, the first trial was just that easy to get the players used to the game. The cases get harder later on, especially the second and the fifth.
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Itermin8rX said:
That puzzle is way too easy
I didnt even play the game.

ah well. 3/5
Maybe if it wasnt so obvious


It gets a bit harder, in case you were worried :d
Jul 14, 2013 7:39 PM
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Honestly, figuring out Maizono's killer isn't even the highlight of the first trial.
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Maybe it'll hep for first time viewers that they put off the anime until it ends, and watch the episodes altogether.
The story is supposed to be continuous anyways, and I feel like the week-by-week viewing of this may put some people off.
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suynk said:
Maybe it'll hep for first time viewers that they put off the anime until it ends, and watch the episodes altogether.
The story is supposed to be continuous anyways, and I feel like the week-by-week viewing of this may put some people off.


Actually, I think it's better to watch it weekly. The anime looks like it will go on the two-episodes-per-chapter route, which means 1 episode for the murder and the investigation, and another episode for the trial. The weekly format gives viewers time to speculate and theorize on the murder. It's more fun and challenging that way ;)
Jul 14, 2013 9:51 PM

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kaimax said:

There's a possibility that there are more Monobears than you think.
Remember the first one that Mondo strangles and it self-destructs. Another one appeared non-nonchalantly from behind the podium. So, it isn't weird that the mastermind would have plenty of others as backup.

He's not godly though.

Oh my, you flatter me...I'd let you in on a little secret but...

Too bad! My lips are sealed!
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