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Nov 17, 2012 11:25 PM

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AiCon said:
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Well.

I liked how Kirito pretend to be the ambassador for Undine/Spriggan alliance... Nice bluff.
It's also good to see dual-wield again.

Kagemune helped them... Why?
30% of Cait Sith + Sylph treasury and tax collecting for a week is not attractive enough for him? Or did he come out of the closet for the awesome Spriggan?

You must thank the cuts on ep16 for that.Players respecting each other etc.Shounen stuff.They could just cut Kagemune here and make Eugene just go away but as we said before the director cares a lot about the details....


As for this fight being the highlight of ALO...There is ONE fight that is better but seeing that they fucked up here with their priorities....I guess the fight will be like a touhou game just like it is in the Opening.

Any hope in this adaptation is lost....
That is so true. So how bad do you think they'll mess up the final battle between Kirito and Sugou?
Not that.That isnt even a battle.I am talking about this http://youtu.be/NneHjoFG2Bg?t=52s
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AirStyles said:
ssjokg said:
AirStyles said:
Well.

I liked how Kirito pretend to be the ambassador for Undine/Spriggan alliance... Nice bluff.
It's also good to see dual-wield again.

Kagemune helped them... Why?
30% of Cait Sith + Sylph treasury and tax collecting for a week is not attractive enough for him? Or did he come out of the closet for the awesome Spriggan?

You must thank the cuts on ep16 for that.Players respecting each other etc.Shounen stuff.They could just cut Kagemune here and make Eugene just go away but as we said before the director cares a lot about the details....


As for this fight being the highlight of ALO...There is ONE fight that is better but seeing that they fucked up here with their priorities....I guess the fight will be like a touhou game just like it is in the Opening.

Any hope in this adaptation is lost....


Think positive... At least I love Touhou games.

Well okay.Maybe I have a problem with expectations because I read the LN.
And...
"30% of Cait Sith + Sylph treasury and tax collecting for a week is not attractive enough for him?"

Heathcliff:Have duel with me
Lords:Lets have a drink
Kirito:I choose duel
*insert YuGiOh! theme*
:-/
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ssjokg said:
AiCon said:
ssjokg said:
AirStyles said:
Well.

I liked how Kirito pretend to be the ambassador for Undine/Spriggan alliance... Nice bluff.
It's also good to see dual-wield again.

Kagemune helped them... Why?
30% of Cait Sith + Sylph treasury and tax collecting for a week is not attractive enough for him? Or did he come out of the closet for the awesome Spriggan?

You must thank the cuts on ep16 for that.Players respecting each other etc.Shounen stuff.They could just cut Kagemune here and make Eugene just go away but as we said before the director cares a lot about the details....


As for this fight being the highlight of ALO...There is ONE fight that is better but seeing that they fucked up here with their priorities....I guess the fight will be like a touhou game just like it is in the Opening.

Any hope in this adaptation is lost....
That is so true. So how bad do you think they'll mess up the final battle between Kirito and Sugou?
Not that.That isnt even a battle.I am talking about this http://youtu.be/NneHjoFG2Bg?t=52s
Oh, That looks like a shot from the final battle. I still think that they'll screw it up. It looks good, but they've screwed up every battle we've seen so far except the first boss.
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And yet another unfufilling episode. This series is just slipping away from what it could have been but its not 100% the animators fault
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Well I enjoyed the fight scene, even though so many others didn't.
So much unnecessary fan service, please spend your money on the quality of the anime instead D:
Does anyone feel like Kirito doesn't have enough drive? I mean the woman he's married to is going to get married to someone else against her own will while in a coma and trapped in a virtual reality. He feels too happy IMO, you think he would be a bit more grim and serious.

You know, from what I've red, I'm getting happier and happier about the fact that I haven't read the light novels. I would probably be really disappointed. I think I'll just stay in my little bubble of enjoying the apparently really bad anime.
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If you really want to fit in, just put Legend of the Galactic Heroes in your top 5 and have it be the only 10-rated anime in your list.
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ssjokg said:

Heathcliff:Have duel with me
Lords:Lets have a drink
Kirito:I choose duel
*insert YuGiOh! theme*
:-/


Who's the lords you refering to?
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Well the fight was interesting but I feel it ended far to quickly and easily. I mean were talking about a guy who suppose to be one of the strongest on the server and with an incredibly weapon who has been playing the game longer than Kirito . I mean if they want to get the gaming aspect right then it should at least try. I mean even goku got his ass beat heck even killed plenty of times. I mean they don't die permanently so I don't see why showing Kirito lose for once would be so bad. Oh well
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QuiGonJon said:
Well I enjoyed the fight scene, even though so many others didn't.
So much unnecessary fan service, please spend your money on the quality of the anime instead D:
Does anyone feel like Kirito doesn't have enough drive? I mean the woman he's married to is going to get married to someone else against her own will while in a coma and trapped in a virtual reality. He feels too happy IMO, you think he would be a bit more grim and serious.

With that detour he lost 1-2 hours at most.He has some more days till Asuna gets married.Nothing would change even if he did go straight to the Tree.He is serious when needed.
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The boobage has increased in this episode. The fight scene this time was slightly better than the usual imo.
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ssjokg said:
QuiGonJon said:
Well I enjoyed the fight scene, even though so many others didn't.
So much unnecessary fan service, please spend your money on the quality of the anime instead D:
Does anyone feel like Kirito doesn't have enough drive? I mean the woman he's married to is going to get married to someone else against her own will while in a coma and trapped in a virtual reality. He feels too happy IMO, you think he would be a bit more grim and serious.

With that detour he lost 1-2 hours at most.He has some more days till Asuna gets married.Nothing would change even if he did go straight to the Tree.He is serious when needed.
Kirito probably realized that he couldn't just march to the tree by himself so he went to get some allies.
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AirStyles said:
ssjokg said:

Heathcliff:Have duel with me
Lords:Lets have a drink
Kirito:I choose duel
*insert YuGiOh! theme*
:-/


Who's the lords you refering to?
Alicia and Sakuya.

Amon-Raw said:
Well the fight was interesting but I feel it ended far to quickly and easily. I mean were talking about a guy who suppose to be one of the strongest on the server and with an incredibly weapon who has been playing the game longer than Kirito . I mean if they want to get the gaming aspect right then it should at least try. I mean even goku got his ass beat heck even killed plenty of times. I mean they don't die permanently so I don't see why showing Kirito lose for once would be so bad. Oh well

Right now Kirito is the strongest player in ALO.And he also has more exp than Eugene due to SAO.The only thing ALO players have more exp with is magic.
Still if he hadnt borrowed Lyfa's sword he would have lost.
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ssjokg said:
QuiGonJon said:
Well I enjoyed the fight scene, even though so many others didn't.
So much unnecessary fan service, please spend your money on the quality of the anime instead D:
Does anyone feel like Kirito doesn't have enough drive? I mean the woman he's married to is going to get married to someone else against her own will while in a coma and trapped in a virtual reality. He feels too happy IMO, you think he would be a bit more grim and serious.

With that detour he lost 1-2 hours at most.He has some more days till Asuna gets married.Nothing would change even if he did go straight to the Tree.He is serious when needed.

Ah I see. Still seems a bit too happy-go-lucky overall for my liking though.

And Gods sake would it kill him to explain the situation a little bit, at least to the point of saying "sorry girls, I'm taken"? I mean the whole point of him being there is to save the girl he loves, he could at least act a bit more like it.

If you really want to fit in, just put Legend of the Galactic Heroes in your top 5 and have it be the only 10-rated anime in your list.
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ssjokg said:
AirStyles said:
ssjokg said:

Heathcliff:Have duel with me
Lords:Lets have a drink
Kirito:I choose duel
*insert YuGiOh! theme*
:-/


Who's the lords you refering to?
Alicia and Sakuya.

Amon-Raw said:
Well the fight was interesting but I feel it ended far to quickly and easily. I mean were talking about a guy who suppose to be one of the strongest on the server and with an incredibly weapon who has been playing the game longer than Kirito . I mean if they want to get the gaming aspect right then it should at least try. I mean even goku got his ass beat heck even killed plenty of times. I mean they don't die permanently so I don't see why showing Kirito lose for once would be so bad. Oh well

Right now Kirito is the strongest player in ALO.And he also has more exp than Eugene due to SAO.The only thing ALO players have more exp with is magic.
Still if he hadnt borrowed Lyfa's sword he would have lost.
Was it ever explained why Lyfa's sword could block Eugene's but Kirito's sword can't?
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Not sure if this is a dumb question... But during the... Traitor drowning in power scene, there's 2 Slyph girls at his left and right thighs... Those are not players... Right?



Or is this another A-1's original take on story again?





Gatha say, I'm rather amused by the fact that he's sitting there drinking wine with his feet on the table instead of being out there leveling up his skills/playing the game... (Though, I don't think he's playing the game for the sake of playing the game... It's more like he play the game to get a sense of superiority over others.)


Sometimes, I don't think even the director remember if he's directing an MMORPG or a fantasy adventure...
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AiCon said:
Was it ever explained why Lyfa's sword could block Eugene's but Kirito's sword can't?

This is complete speculation, but maybe it passed through the first sword and then was blocked by the second?
Again, complete speculation.

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QuiGonJon said:
AiCon said:
Was it ever explained why Lyfa's sword could block Eugene's but Kirito's sword can't?

This is complete speculation, but maybe it passed through the first sword and then was blocked by the second?
Again, complete speculation.
So it's just like the last episode when Kirito transformed into a giant monster that could eat people even though it was supposed to be an illusion.
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Paul said:


Kirito x Sogou, not Kirito x Suguha, Lol.


who is sogou :/// ?
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Diablakos said:
Paul said:


Kirito x Sogou, not Kirito x Suguha, Lol.


who is sogou :/// ?


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QuiGonJon said:
AiCon said:
Was it ever explained why Lyfa's sword could block Eugene's but Kirito's sword can't?

This is complete speculation, but maybe it passed through the first sword and then was blocked by the second?
Again, complete speculation.

That sword can materialize after passing through a guard. Kirito used the second sword to block it between his 2 swords after it passed his main IIRC.
AirStyles said:
Not sure if this is a dumb question... But during the... Traitor drowning in power scene, there's 2 Slyph girls at his left and right thighs... Those are not players... Right?

NPC dolls. Mentioned in the novel.
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Diablakos said:
Paul said:


Kirito x Sogou, not Kirito x Suguha, Lol.


who is sogou :/// ?
He means Sugou - the a-hole fairy boss that trapped Asuna.
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QuiGonJon said:
AiCon said:
Was it ever explained why Lyfa's sword could block Eugene's but Kirito's sword can't?

This is complete speculation, but maybe it passed through the first sword and then was blocked by the second?
Again, complete speculation.
That's actually correct. The Salamander guy needed to solidify the sword to actually hit Kirito, but Kirito raised the second sword to block it on the last second.

It's this episode's 5 seconds of fame because the rest of it is so cliche, including the "It's a Gundam!!!!" moments when Kirito teleported in front of the Salamanders when they were behind them and emerged from a dust cloud.
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AiCon said:
ssjokg said:
AirStyles said:
ssjokg said:

Heathcliff:Have duel with me
Lords:Lets have a drink
Kirito:I choose duel
*insert YuGiOh! theme*
:-/


Who's the lords you refering to?
Alicia and Sakuya.

Amon-Raw said:
Well the fight was interesting but I feel it ended far to quickly and easily. I mean were talking about a guy who suppose to be one of the strongest on the server and with an incredibly weapon who has been playing the game longer than Kirito . I mean if they want to get the gaming aspect right then it should at least try. I mean even goku got his ass beat heck even killed plenty of times. I mean they don't die permanently so I don't see why showing Kirito lose for once would be so bad. Oh well

Right now Kirito is the strongest player in ALO.And he also has more exp than Eugene due to SAO.The only thing ALO players have more exp with is magic.
Still if he hadnt borrowed Lyfa's sword he would have lost.
Was it ever explained why Lyfa's sword could block Eugene's but Kirito's sword can't?
It cant block multiple times in short amount of times or something like that.Bored to look at the LN.
AirStyles said:
Not sure if this is a dumb question... But during the... Traitor drowning in power scene, there's 2 Slyph girls at his left and right thighs... Those are not players... Right?



Or is this another A-1's original take on story again?





Gatha say, I'm rather amused by the fact that he's sitting there drinking wine with his feet on the table instead of being out there leveling up his skills/playing the game... (Though, I don't think he's playing the game for the sake of playing the game... It's more like he play the game to get a sense of superiority over others.)


Sometimes, I don't think even the director remember if he's directing an MMORPG or a fantasy adventure...
The first pic is the studio being original the second is from the LN.
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Malestel said:

NPC dolls. Mentioned in the novel.


Oh lol!

Hmmm... So Sakuya and the Cait Sith leader have man dolls?

I bet the Cait Sith have the hottest men. (Not in term of temperature, that'll go to Salamanders)

ssjokg said:
The first pic is the studio being original


Wait what? Who am I suppose to believe here?
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Was it ever explained in the LN how Kirito was able to fight that Salamander in the air when he flew from the caves all the way there? Isn't there supposed to be a time limit?
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AiCon said:
Was it ever explained in the LN how Kirito was able to fight that Salamander in the air when he flew from the caves all the way there? Isn't there supposed to be a time limit?

Shhh..... details, details....
And he was standing and talking for a bit, can't remember how long the wings need to "recharge" though

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AirStyles said:
Malestel said:

NPC dolls. Mentioned in the novel.


Oh lol!

Hmmm... So Sakuya and the Cait Sith leader have man dolls?

I bet the Cait Sith have the hottest men. (Not in term of temperature, that'll go to Salamanders)

ssjokg said:
The first pic is the studio being original


Wait what? Who am I suppose to believe here?


I'll look it up, I think Sugou mentioned npc dolls when he tormented Asuna. They were definitely mentioned in another scene that's why I'm not sure atm.
Edit: Yeah, my bad, confused it with another scenes (with Sugou and co.).
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Someone explain to me why this guy:

would threaten that he controls the army, but then act surprised when he gets booted from the clan? Moment of extreme stupidity, or is there some explanation from the LN?
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katsucats said:
Someone explain to me why this guy:

would threaten that he controls the army, but then act surprised when he gets booted from the clan? Moment of extreme stupidity, or is there some explanation from the LN?
Because he thought that he was indispensable to the clan.

Edit: He thought that he army would either refuse to go against him or that all the other generals were sh^t.
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ITT people still not given up on looking for explanations.
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katsucats said:
Someone explain to me why this guy:

would threaten that he controls the army, but then act surprised when he gets booted from the clan? Moment of extreme stupidity, or is there some explanation from the LN?


Oh! It's katsucats!

I donno, why don't you self insert into his shoes and see for yourself?

From what I remember, you're very good at doing that.
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AiCon said:
Was it ever explained why Lyfa's sword could block Eugene's but Kirito's sword can't?


My guess is that the sword phasing has an internal Cool down(very common in MMOs for proc items), so dual wielding nullifies it since you have a second chance to parry.
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katsucats said:
Someone explain to me why this guy:

would threaten that he controls the army, but then act surprised when he gets booted from the clan? Moment of extreme stupidity, or is there some explanation from the LN?


Oh! It's katsucats!

I donno, why don't you self insert into his shoes and see for yourself?

From what I remember, you're very good at doing that.
Oh please, get off my dick AirStyles. An anime character acts completely irrational and you're going to accuse the audience of role-play when they criticize the anime. Do me a favor and stay in the fangirl corner of this thread and let someone who can bring some value to the table answer my questions, k?
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Malestel said:
QuiGonJon said:
AiCon said:
Was it ever explained why Lyfa's sword could block Eugene's but Kirito's sword can't?

This is complete speculation, but maybe it passed through the first sword and then was blocked by the second?
Again, complete speculation.

That sword can materialize after passing through a guard. Kirito used the second sword to block it between his 2 swords after it passed his main IIRC.
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AiCon said:
Was it ever explained why Lyfa's sword could block Eugene's but Kirito's sword can't?


My guess is that the sword phasing has an internal Cool down(very common in MMOs for proc items), so dual wielding nullifies it so you have a second chance to parry.
So basically, there are lots of good ideas, but nobody knows.

QuiGonJon said:
AiCon said:
Was it ever explained in the LN how Kirito was able to fight that Salamander in the air when he flew from the caves all the way there? Isn't there supposed to be a time limit?

Shhh..... details, details....
And he was standing and talking for a bit, can't remember how long the wings need to "recharge" though
How... convenient of him:/
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katsucats said:
AirStyles said:
katsucats said:
Someone explain to me why this guy:

would threaten that he controls the army, but then act surprised when he gets booted from the clan? Moment of extreme stupidity, or is there some explanation from the LN?


Oh! It's katsucats!

I donno, why don't you self insert into his shoes and see for yourself?

From what I remember, you're very good at doing that.
Oh please, get off my dick AirStyles. An anime character acts completely irrational and you're going to accuse the audience of role-play when they criticize the anime. Do me a favor and stay in the fangirl corner of this thread and let someone who can bring some value to the table answer my questions, k?


Oh, come on katsucats, I despise you, I thought we been through this. LOL

No, in all seriousness, that was a joke. I apologize if you take offense of it.

Do me a favor and stay in the fangirl corner of this thread


Actually, screw how you felt ... How's The World God Only Knows treating you?
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AiCon said:
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Someone explain to me why Sigurd would threaten that he controls the army, but then act surprised when he gets booted from the clan? Moment of extreme stupidity, or is there some explanation from the LN?
Because he thought that he was indispensable to the clan.
That's it? Doesn't sound very convincing especially after he was exposed as a traitor and threatened the leader that he has control over the army...
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AirStyles said:

Actually, screw how you felt ... How's The World God Only Knows treating you?

gg no re

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katsucats said:
AiCon said:
katsucats said:
Someone explain to me why Sigurd would threaten that he controls the army, but then act surprised when he gets booted from the clan? Moment of extreme stupidity, or is there some explanation from the LN?
Because he thought that he was indispensable to the clan.
That's it? Doesn't sound very convincing especially after he was exposed as a traitor and threatened the leader that he has control over the army...
You forgot to include my edit:

He thought that he army would either refuse to go against him or that all the other generals were sh^t. Remember that all the clans are fighting with each other and he's the one who's been defending their territory against the Salamanders.
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ssjokg said:
eldon2 said:
I was surprised how much I enjoyed the fight with Salamander general. The novel didn't make it seem practically exciting but that was by far my favorite fight in the series thus far. My only compliments concerning the fight were some poor animations issues with facial expressions and during certain portions were the creators tried to use a blur effect and it failed.

Although the fight did bring up something I realized they have not openly discussed in the game. Does ALO have real pain mechanics like SOA did? I don't honestly remember from the novels but I noticed the general did seem to be actively suffering from the stab wounds towards the end of the fight.

Also Lyfa's former leader scene with the slave girls made me raise a eyebrow. Never actually was mentioned in the novel but that was some interesting imagery.

Neither SAO or ALO have physical pain mechanisms.It's all psychological but some scenes are overdoing it.And yeah that scene with Sigurd....
Or the person themselves are making expressions to be realistic in the game of how they feel but yeah exaggeration and anime are like married. They always in together.

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Actually, screw how you felt ... How's The World God Only Knows treating you?
At least it's better than Ixion Saga...
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Yumekichi11 said:
ssjokg said:
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I was surprised how much I enjoyed the fight with Salamander general. The novel didn't make it seem practically exciting but that was by far my favorite fight in the series thus far. My only compliments concerning the fight were some poor animations issues with facial expressions and during certain portions were the creators tried to use a blur effect and it failed.

Although the fight did bring up something I realized they have not openly discussed in the game. Does ALO have real pain mechanics like SOA did? I don't honestly remember from the novels but I noticed the general did seem to be actively suffering from the stab wounds towards the end of the fight.

Also Lyfa's former leader scene with the slave girls made me raise a eyebrow. Never actually was mentioned in the novel but that was some interesting imagery.

Neither SAO or ALO have physical pain mechanisms.It's all psychological but some scenes are overdoing it.And yeah that scene with Sigurd....
Or the person themselves are making expressions to be realistic in the game of how they feel but yeah exaggeration and anime are like married. They always in together.
There must be some sort of feedback mechanism or they couldn't tell if something touched them. It may not be the extreme pain of being stabbed but I'd expect a little jolt.
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AiCon said:
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AiCon said:
Was it ever explained why Lyfa's sword could block Eugene's but Kirito's sword can't?

This is complete speculation, but maybe it passed through the first sword and then was blocked by the second?
Again, complete speculation.

That sword can materialize after passing through a guard. Kirito used the second sword to block it between his 2 swords after it passed his main IIRC.
RockerXD said:
AiCon said:
Was it ever explained why Lyfa's sword could block Eugene's but Kirito's sword can't?


My guess is that the sword phasing has an internal Cool down(very common in MMOs for proc items), so dual wielding nullifies it so you have a second chance to parry.
So basically, there are lots of good ideas, but nobody knows.

KLANG! With a sharp metallic sound, Gram was deflected. What
stopped it was Kirito’s exactly timed thrust using the greatsword in his
right hand. Like threading the eye of a needle, perfect timing.

Mechanincs weren't explained, fanlation is pretty tellibre and I don't have the original and can't read kanji anyway. So yeah. "think what you want situation", author can't be bothered to add a 3 sec internal cd attribute to the sword, this is more "mysterious" making Kirito more badass (I guess?).
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Takuan_Soho said:
This episodes encapsulates everything I have disliked about this animation adaptation.


yep u've summed up everything I've wanted to said about this episode. I don't expect them to have ufotable level quality (it's pretty obvious no one matches up to ufotable) but I would have expected an increase in quality over the usual slice-of-life at the very least.

Being a LN reader I was hoping that the adaptation could redeem itself with this action-oriented episode but again it fell short. It seems like now that Asuna is out of the picture at the moment, they are trying their best to milk lyfa. They should have spent less time trying to provide fan service at every damn possible moment (what with all dat ass and breasts shots) and more on the action scenes where the flying looks awkward and action choreography is replaced with spamming flashes of lights.


Hmm I definitely feel frustrated as well when they gloss over the humor and with of Kirito and over very important background information and context as well.

Hmm I'm kind of at a loss about the animation....was it really that bad? D: I liked it x.x I wish they had spent a little more time explaining, perhaps using slow motion or something how Kirito countered the etheral shift. I wouldn't have gotten it without having read the LN before hand.

One thing I gotta say, is they really super emphasized General Eugene's special Blood Armor pushing back Kirito lol. At the very least, at least they put enough time showing the dialogue wondering about Sigurd's motive and Sakuya's response to it. I wish they could've done the same with the parts Takuan_Soho mentioned though, specifically Kagemune unexpectedly saving their ass.
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AiCon said:
ssjokg said:
whatever123456 said:
ssjokg said:
Yumekichi11 said:
Paul said:
Kurogashi said:
fucken awesomeeeeeeeeeeee!!!
dont give a shit about what LN thinks cause me among with probably 80% non LN readers out there probably thought this was awesome as fuck. sorry LN readers, but you're a minority.

Is a LN reader.
Most awesome thing in this episode was this scene.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb40/Toupaulthao/SAOEp20Scene.gif?t=1353192476
I disagree. Clearly it was,
http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb480/Yumekichi11/Picture%2038/ntrerergergg_zps71115233.gif
this part. The fight was by the best but it's a shame it was not as high quality as it was believed but I still liked its flow.
That part was fine but later when Kirito uses both swords...the animation was just bad.


The fight was animated well, I don't see how you could consider this as bad.
For me it was bad.Totally different from the animation in the gif above.
The first one was better. You could even see Lyfa's nice ass.

That fight was just way too short for me.
In regards to that:

I think she is more inviting with her ass than anything.

Also them privates zooms like:
http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb480/Yumekichi11/Picture%2038/Leopard-RawsSwordArtOnline-20RAWMX1280x720x264AACmp4_snapshot_0018_20121117_185335_zps8cb75697.jpg
as example.
AiCon said:
Yumekichi11 said:
ssjokg said:
eldon2 said:
I was surprised how much I enjoyed the fight with Salamander general. The novel didn't make it seem practically exciting but that was by far my favorite fight in the series thus far. My only compliments concerning the fight were some poor animations issues with facial expressions and during certain portions were the creators tried to use a blur effect and it failed.

Although the fight did bring up something I realized they have not openly discussed in the game. Does ALO have real pain mechanics like SOA did? I don't honestly remember from the novels but I noticed the general did seem to be actively suffering from the stab wounds towards the end of the fight.

Also Lyfa's former leader scene with the slave girls made me raise a eyebrow. Never actually was mentioned in the novel but that was some interesting imagery.

Neither SAO or ALO have physical pain mechanisms.It's all psychological but some scenes are overdoing it.And yeah that scene with Sigurd....
Or the person themselves are making expressions to be realistic in the game of how they feel but yeah exaggeration and anime are like married. They always in together.
There must be some sort of feedback mechanism or they couldn't tell if something touched them. It may not be the extreme pain of being stabbed but I'd expect a little jolt.
Instead it was shown more as realistic but way too much. This was far from Braveheart realism.

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To answer the question about Sigurd controlling the army. The translated light novel had a slightly different response than what Sigurd said in the anime, "...Those incompetent lizards. So... Sakuya, what do you want? Reprimand money? Kick me out of the Ministry of Power? But if you lose me as army commander, what happens to your political power..."

Personally, I think he was very confident he would not get caught, much less exiled so his response wasn't entirely well thought-out anyways.

In response to the question regarding the etheral shift, the light novel never really explained more than what Malestel quoted from already. But I think it makes sense anyways, in order for the sword to phase through one object and hit another it obviously has to materialize again. If Kirito deflects the sword before it hits him but after it materializes then you get the perfect timing mentioned.

Oh, I just remembered another section further elaborating on the etheral shift as well:

"Before the Ethereal Shift could even activate, Kirito's sword hit Gram's side and deflected it. Eugene's attack grazed Kirito's left shoulder and moved to his back. Right after... "

That probably confirms there's a cooldown of some sort although never explicitly mentioned...
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Yumekichi11 said:
AiCon said:
ssjokg said:
whatever123456 said:
ssjokg said:
Yumekichi11 said:
Paul said:
Kurogashi said:
fucken awesomeeeeeeeeeeee!!!
dont give a shit about what LN thinks cause me among with probably 80% non LN readers out there probably thought this was awesome as fuck. sorry LN readers, but you're a minority.

Is a LN reader.
Most awesome thing in this episode was this scene.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb40/Toupaulthao/SAOEp20Scene.gif?t=1353192476
I disagree. Clearly it was,
http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb480/Yumekichi11/Picture%2038/ntrerergergg_zps71115233.gif
this part. The fight was by the best but it's a shame it was not as high quality as it was believed but I still liked its flow.
That part was fine but later when Kirito uses both swords...the animation was just bad.


The fight was animated well, I don't see how you could consider this as bad.
For me it was bad.Totally different from the animation in the gif above.
The first one was better. You could even see Lyfa's nice ass.

That fight was just way too short for me.
In regards to that:

I think she is more inviting with her ass than anything.

Also them privates zooms like:
http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb480/Yumekichi11/Picture%2038/Leopard-RawsSwordArtOnline-20RAWMX1280x720x264AACmp4_snapshot_0018_20121117_185335_zps8cb75697.jpg
as example.
LMAO Oh God I do love them ass shots. Shake it Lyfa! Personally, Love these shots of Suguha the best:


AiCon said:
Yumekichi11 said:
ssjokg said:
eldon2 said:
I was surprised how much I enjoyed the fight with Salamander general. The novel didn't make it seem practically exciting but that was by far my favorite fight in the series thus far. My only compliments concerning the fight were some poor animations issues with facial expressions and during certain portions were the creators tried to use a blur effect and it failed.

Although the fight did bring up something I realized they have not openly discussed in the game. Does ALO have real pain mechanics like SOA did? I don't honestly remember from the novels but I noticed the general did seem to be actively suffering from the stab wounds towards the end of the fight.

Also Lyfa's former leader scene with the slave girls made me raise a eyebrow. Never actually was mentioned in the novel but that was some interesting imagery.

Neither SAO or ALO have physical pain mechanisms.It's all psychological but some scenes are overdoing it.And yeah that scene with Sigurd....
Or the person themselves are making expressions to be realistic in the game of how they feel but yeah exaggeration and anime are like married. They always in together.
There must be some sort of feedback mechanism or they couldn't tell if something touched them. It may not be the extreme pain of being stabbed but I'd expect a little jolt.
Instead it was shown more as realistic but way too much. This was far from Braveheart realism.Eugene and Kirito were swinging swords at each other. Kirito survived 2 years in SAO were that sword swing could cost you your life. Eugene probably sub-concisely thinks that it's a real sword coming at him. It just a natural reflex.
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Well the battle was cool. All he needed was his dual weild.

Plus he got a choice between elf boobs or cat boobs. Yet chose neither. What the hell man?

Oh and Leafa got friendzoned.
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mystik said:
Well the battle was cool. All he needed was his dual weild.

Plus he got a choice between elf boobs or cat boobs. Yet chose neither. What the hell man?

Oh and Leafa got friendzoned.
It would have been better if they had showed Yui's reaction rather than focusing only on the breasts.
ssjokg said:
Why didnt they include this?
Talking about Yui...
Not that it would make the anime better but it was quite funny in the LN.
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Speaking as an anime-only viewer, I must say this episode certainly picked up the pace of the series after a few lackadaisical moments. I'm reading that there is some hate with how this episode has been adapted, but from the perspective of someone who hasn't read the LN it was fairly promising. Looking forward to what happens next after what we were shown in the closing moments.
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It's about time that something happened, there are only 5 episodes left and I wonder if it'll be a lame ending or if something kick ass will happen after all. Probably the first, it would really fit the show.
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MasterMeNL said:
It's about time that something happened, there are only 5 episodes left and I wonder if it'll be a lame ending or if something kick ass will happen after all. Probably the first, it would really fit the show.
I'd set my expectations to that of the end of the SAO arc.

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