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edwd2 said: Pacing is too quick!!! I hope its not gonna end with 12 episodes Bad news, at this pace, it will end the SAO arc in 12 episodes to make way for next arc. |
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| Holy shit. Holy shit, man. Now, this episode wasn't as impacting as I wanted it to be, but still, that was tearjerking... Even after reading the entire LN, I still tear up even when I knew what was going to happen... Poor Sachi... ㅜ.ㅜ But, I hate [well ain't that a surprise] how the anime rushes the impact of Sachi's death. This arc should have at least taken two episodes to really develop the new characters or at least let the audience sympathies with them instead of wiping them out on the spot. I still cried though. /._.\ |
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| I'm starting to realize that all the "It was rushed" crying in the last 12+ pages is done by the Light Novel readers who want a reasonably correct adaptation. I mean seriously guys, if it bothers you that much you best stop watching the series cause if my calculations are correct they still have 30+ chapters to finish in 22 episodes if they hope to clear the Ainclad arc. There's going to be a lot more changing and rushing involved in the story. It's just the nature of the beast in regards to Novel to screen adaptations. Unless your willing to invest 30 million US dollars and give it to the anime production team and ask them to make the series 50 episodes so that can adapt the story from the novel line for line, your going to have to settle for rushed moments. more 'Rushed' thoughts for Light Novel readers... -------------- They do a good job showing Kirito's mental anguish and the fact that there were times he tried to break his lonely solo cycle and become part of a group it ended up horribly. The "Beater" stigma attached to him is also haunting him. Especially after he loses Sachi and the group and the guild leader unfairly blames him and disowns him after he came clean about being a "beater". The reality is the Black Cats were doomed to die cause they were naive and foolish. The reason that Kirito joined them is because they almost lost a few members in some battles and Kirito rescued them. But Kirito can't forgive himself for what happened to her, even after she leaves him a farewell message telling him not to. Sachi should have never been thrown out in the front lines. She could have been a better support player being an in town specialist. But in this game there is no second chances. :( |
CirrisJul 22, 2012 12:44 AM
| Hmm, fast pacing or not, I'm going to assume that this episode existed to make him develop anthropophobia or something. But hey, Sachi was one cute lassie. Sounds like the next episode will be intense. |
| No singing really ruined this episode for me. Ever since I read that she sings, I was hoping to hear her sing, but she didn't..........I'm going to read this chapter again. ;_; |
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| I didn't feel this episode at all. The new characters weren't interesting and some parts really felt overdramatic. |
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| Are you serious ... ? This episode didn't work for me, at all. Didn't invoke the same feeling the novels did for me ... Sigh. Man ... I'm really mad here, so I won't take it out on you guys. |
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| All that I see in this thread was raging LN readers that thinks that they can do a better job at adapting this anime. [rant] "Okay let's make Aria a 2 episode and this a 2 episode and the next also a 2 episode, let's see how we can actually finish volume 1 while inserting these side stories." for god sakes, they've actually decided to insert the side stories, but like usual these people doesn't know when to be thankful. You guys need to fucking stop comparing every tiny bit of the LN to the adaptation. Why bother watching the adaptation when every second you watch it you'll feel disappointed just because some things cannot be on par with the LN. You watch this because you want to see the world of SAO and their characters move and talk, not making it a substitute of the LN. I'm actually thankful that they even gave Sachi a full episode not just a 3 second flashback. [/rant] Question: Would you rather see "this" episode animated as it is? OR not see it at all because of the time constraint? |
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| Yes, but the adaptation should be fulfilling by itself. If not for having read the novels a few times, I wouldn't even have had any enjoyment watching this episode. Seriously, I would of have been fine withjust Kirito quickly talking about the events to Asuna in Egil's shop. It's not like they have so many episodes to spare ... Red-Nosed Reindeer should have been an OVA, it has no impact whatsoever as an episode 3 ... /sofuckingmad |
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fimbu1vetr said: Fate/Zero was very faithful to the LN and widely acclaimed. Rin's Adventure. |
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fimbu1vetr said: Yanoflies said: Yes, but the adaptation should be fulfilling by itself. If not for having read the novels a few times, I wouldn't even have had any enjoyment watching this episode. Seriously, I would of have been fine withjust Kirito quickly talking about the events to Asuna in Egil's shop. It's not like they have so many episodes to spare ... Red-Nosed Reindeer should have been an OVA, it has no impact whatsoever as an episode 3 ... maybe it should've been a full ep flashback later on? Perhaps, but if it was the exact same episode as this, I'd still rather it never happened. Like I said, that moment when he tells Asuna about it in Egil's shop would be good enough. |
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| I haven't read the LN, actually, I never read LNs. But for some reason, the episode seemed awfully rushed. Although I have a feeling Hayami Saori's character Sachi will play an important role to develop Kirito's character. Damn, she is in the OP and I thought at least she will survive through the trap. The episode tried to carry a lot of emotion, but it couldn't in the end, because it felt too rushed. They could either make at least a couple of episodes to let the characters develop or just make a flashback episode. 5/5 none the less. Because I think Sachi's character will help develop Kirito's character a lot. |
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| I really hope that they will not force to include ALO arc into 24 episodes, but if they decided to do it they should at least do the pacing right ( fast is ok, but not too fast like this ep) |
fimbu1vetr said: SAO does not need to be rushed IMO. I honestly feel that the fans are at fault too somewhere in this. Because I know that a majority of the LN readers wanted to see "ALO" animated ASAP. |
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| This is how I rate this episode, Based on the episode itself (Assume that I didn't read the LN at all), this is episode is pretty much decent, but something is still missing like the scene when Kirito fight with the boss (which was skipped and there's no proper outcome from the fight) and I didn't feel as much emotional as I have in any sad scene in some anime. Despite all these, there is some development in the main character, which was good. So I rate this 4/5 Based on the LN and correlating with that anime... OK, from the way I see from this episode, this side story should be about 1 1/2 to 2 episodes worth. Yet again, it is rushed, but unlike the previous episode, some important points from the LN are still missing!!! - How Kirito met with Black Cat guild - The outcome from the boss fight (One of the most important point!!! ) - Kirito's reaction when retrieving the revival item (One of the most important point!!! ) - The message sent to Kirito scene is too short and fast and not that emotional as what I had in LN. So I gonna rate this 3/5 |
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| This episode was awesome |
| This episode felt way too rushed. Many events moved along too swiftly, characters were painfully underdeveloped, and the amount of emotional content was overwhelming. Nonetheless, I loved this episode, since it changed my overall impression of this series. Honestly, I felt like crying - when Sachi died, when the revival item was found useless, and when Sachi's message was playing, my heart was torn to bits. The fact that I wanted to know more about her character but never will makes me even more depressed. |
| tht last bit... tht tune she hummed... we won't forget about you guys Kuronekodan! |
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| Damn, this started out better than I am finding it now.... It is rushed way too much! Reminds me of Zetman all over. Guess I'll pick up the manga and maybe drop this if this killer pace continues. I just want to see a nice story building up, and the way it's progressing now, it's not the case. |
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| For those who ask “Wut happened between Floor 2 and floor 23 man?” Haha.. It’s way worse in the novels initially in Volume 1. “Wut happened to 75% of the game man” XD |
Well it was a little sad. Also they could have showed the boss fight. However the episode was great as always. Looking forward to next episode. |
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| It was great. SAO is not an easy novel to adapt but so far they have done a great job. |
| this is a bad episode 3 IMO.. i haven't read the novels but unless the next episodes tie this in, i'ma blame the series composer for just lamely putting this in the middle.. now i don't know if they're still going for chronological or random orders, because in either case they're not doing a good job presenting it.. the only thing we have are dates and our imagination to fill the gap of one year after last episode.. anyway, as a stand alone episode, this was indeed sad, but they didn't give much to give more impact.. 1-episode characters are hard to feel for.. and they weren't successful to give me the prospect that this is needed either for world building or for protag's character development.. heck, to me, suddenly doing an emotional episode without making us knowledgeable enough of the world beforehand would not really have an effect.. so hopefully, the future episodes can do something about it.. |
argiliumJul 22, 2012 3:20 AM
| The Black Cats... destroyed :'( Nicholas the Renegade was good boss, but I would wanted to see more (How Kirito beaten it etc...) Yeah I was prepared that almost' everyone Kirito meets going to die. More episodes <3 5/5 |
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| Oh no, don't tell me this will be the new Fate/Stay Night anime, as in the anime example about bad adaptations. |
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| There's a lot of time skips in this series, but that is to be expected and I don't really mind. This episode was pretty emotional. Poor Sachi ;_; I also wonder why he hid his real level from them. Maybe they would've hated him if they knew. I'm surprised there wasn't actually a way in their interface to read his level though. |
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Does these people dead? Still din't read LN though :P |
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| The "hope" of establishing the guild in their own building started a serious death flag. The moment they mentioned they wanted to fight monsters equal to their level, it was automatic recipe for disaster in making. It's known in games that fighting monsters of equal level is increased difficulty and increased chance of dying. Kirito agonized over his death for half a year. Interesting that Sachi left behind a message at Xmas for him. That message may have given him some closure on the incident. I'm certain that Kirito will team up with Asuna again at some point since they she is the only other player to ever synch with him for concerted attacks. If the story sequence is a bit rushed, I wonder how many eps the series will actually run? |
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| The drama wasn't all that powerful but is decent and i did suspected everyone was gonna die. So far, my rating is a 4.5/5 for all the episode. If some how they can make it more really dramatic or make it more interesting from start to middle it would of been a 5/5 for me. |
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| This anime reminds me a bit of crystal saga,a mmo rpg. I never thought this would become so sad..& there was actually no way of reviving Sachi & here I thought she would become stronger. |
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| Wow time really flew by in this episode! o_O Really sucks to see all of Kirito's guild members die the way they did. It looks like this game is starting to take its toll on Kirito both emotionally and psychologically. Although this episode was pretty dark and depressing, it was still really cool to see Kirito owning all of those monsters and that huge psycho Santa! Dude's a total beast! I felt really bad when Sachi died in this episode, I was really starting to like her character. She was kinda of like a warm gentle light for Kirito inside of the dark world of SAO. I wonder how close they really were though. I mean they slept in the same bed for crying out loud! Too bad we'll never know now. Oh well, great episode overall. Loving this anime so far! |
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| Whoa, I thought I saw Sachi in the OP, but apparently not.. Why won't Kirito team up with Klein.. ? |
| Feels like they rushed the episode.... But nevertheless an awesome episode.... So much drama and tragedy... Epic.... Btw it seems like they are jumping around the timeline.... Episode starts on April 2023 ends on December 2023. 4.5/5 |
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| LN was more emotional than this. They rushed things quite a fair bit though. Maybe these emotions would have been more properly conveyed if they split the thing into 2 episodes, 1 episode for the guild, and 1 episode for the santa fight. |
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Wuppie said: Why won't Kirito team up with Klein.. ? Same reason he went solo. as another user said in this post http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=466501&show=280#msg16011459 |
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| pretty good episode i guess, covering most of the main points.. ah..hayami saori, her voice is so awesome...made the whole scene seem so much sadder (aah, that moment from Gundam AGE!!!) looking forward to the next episode~~black swordman~~ |
the episode was really interesting.lots of action.but i think i have found a fault of sword art online.as we can see the person who dies on the virtual world dies on the real world too.but except kirito none of the others doen't really care about that.for example black cats leader committed suicide in the end,don't you think this makes the anime loss some points.other than that everything is great.one thing don't you guys think there isn't any relation among the episodes.i mean each episodes are starting from a different point. |
tzukimata said: yea well in the light novel it went from 1 to 74... and i got in the wagon midway through the trans of volume 1 so no side stories... now that was confusing Yeah lol, people complaining about pacing when the fact that the LN itself jumped pretty much into the 3/4 half of the game. honestly, people who have already read the LNs should really stop comparing, because they're clearly biased by the details in LN. Even I've read the LN, I just shut down my thoughts about the LN and just enjoy as a stand alone anime. |
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