Sword Art Online Episode 2 Discussion

MapoTofu said:
If I didn't read the LN, this would be an awesome episode. But since I read the LN, they seriously butchered the best part of Aria, Asuna and Kirito's meeting and how they got to be so close. The part about Diabel was slightly disintegrated but didn't affect the story a whole lot and Argo's character is mostly used to connect Kirito and Diabel's situation so it also didn't affect too much of the basis of the story.

Yumekichi11 said:
Won't even bother. Just buy out when it's out on the net. I saw Berserk Swords and Fate ones along with FF ones so most likely this sword will be available to buy. Too bad I saw only one anime/FF sword made to be used for combat also. I would love to use this one to hack shit like wood.

Slicer22 said:
Found this article on animenewsnetwork

http://www.animenewsnetwork.co.uk/interest/2012-07-16/sword-art-online-bd/dvd-buyers-can-win-kirito-sword

I seriously want his sword so badly, i have never been intrested in this sort of stuff but the moment i saw that sword i instantly wanted it

Stark700 said:

Or to fight off intruders tbh like in this article:

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2012/01/13/australian-man-fights-off-home-invader-with-bleach-sword

Speaking of Anime Contents Expo, you all actually made Elucidator (Kirito's sword) and displayed it?

It's convenient to have a sword on hand as reference for the animation, so we originally planned to buy a cheap one. Elucidator is a little long for a one-handed sword, but we wanted to know what it was like to swing such a sword, and how it would move. Then our producer, Kashiwada-san, said, “Then why don't we make the real thing?” And he even talked about making Asuna's Lambentright in addition to Kirito's Elucidator. When we don't have events, all our animation staff uses them to practice their sword skills (smile).

DaedalusExNovem said:


No, Asuna will not be in the next episode.
Not unless the author decides to change the story.

And @ScarletMuse- thanks for the compliment.
I know what beta testing is like, so I kinda feel for the poor testers who got all that pressure.

Heck, the developers might fundamentally change the game for its release, and new players would still expect a beta tester to know what's going on. >.<"

Netto_Azure said:


GASP! If only it were an English Release. Want that Elucidator so badly. XD

I believe it's the one that they used as a basis for the Anime version. I remember that interview...
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/anime-spotlight/2012/summer/sword-art-online



"The real question is how heavy it is. Because it needs to be heavier."

MidnightPride said:


I wonder how many people got that reference xD

xfire011 said:
Well, a good episode. And if the next one, RNR, is just like the light novel version, there's gonna be some emotional moments.

plushkin said:


Captain America: "I do!....*looks around sheepishly* I ..I got the reference..."

Phaetons_Folly said:
The boss fight was amazing, but this episode had one of the most pointless sacrifices I have ever seen. You can’t afford to let anyone die, even if they have been deceiving you, because players are your most important and most scarce resource. I can’t think of anyone who would turn down a health potion in a situation like that. I doubt we’ll get to see it, but I would really like to know what kind of society the players ended up forming in the game. Not everyone has to be a warrior, and they made it sound like there are a finite amount of enemies so people can go through the entire game by being a blacksmith or something and support the warriors.

Netto_Azure said:


GASP! If only it were an English Release. Want that Elucidator so badly. XD

I believe it's the one that they used as a basis for the Anime version. I remember that interview...
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/anime-spotlight/2012/summer/sword-art-online



"The real question is how heavy it is. Because it needs to be heavier."

Ryser said:
I guess, it is as everybody mention about "Anime being too rushed then" While I could understand the logic behind each character action in most of the anime I watched. I not see much of logic here. So may someone explain this to me?

1. That knight guy, so it is in fact that he is just pretending to be a good guy, but greedy inside? Since he told that everybody will have equal distribution in the loot, and change the strategy that everybody should finish it together to his single finish just so that he could steal the rare to his own? (As MMO player myself, I would says that this kind of greedy person is failed as leader though.)

2. Main char seem to be the only guy who realized that the knight guy is such a greedy loot stealer, but he seem to think good of him when he flash it back??

3. In any MMO, it is important to have party. as main char said so himself that there are many things impossible to do it alone. Then why he chose to act like a bad guys and ditch everybody in the end, when he is actually a nice guy and could lead them if he explain it well about how the boss pattern changed from beta?

4. Why is nobody slap those who keep complaining about beta tester this, beta tester that yet? Seriously, in real MMO, it is not beta tester job to start over with newbies and teach them how to play..

s2012k1993 said:

I haven't read the novel, but this episode seemed well paced. It also helped that the episode didn't stop every two minutes to explain what was going on.

It was clear from the beginning that Diabel was hiding something from others. How could his party have located the first boss and known about the change in the boss' attack style unless they actually have fought the boss? How was it that he picked up on who Kibaou was doubting before anyone else did? Almost as if Diabel wanted to distance himself from the suspicion of being a beta tester. I'm not sure if Kirito immediately picked up on these suspicions, but Diabel definitely realized that Kirito was a beta tester. At least three times, Diabel casts a suspicious look towards Kirito's direction. Diabel even becomes best friends with Kibaou in order to portray himself as a leader/hero.

That is what makes Diabel's sacrifice all the more surprising. If Diabel had been conniving against his party all along, he would have immediately grabbed Kirito's potion and healed himself. Instead he reveals his suspicions that Kirito was a beta tester to Kirito. This reveals to us Diabel's true intentions. He had already realized that there had been division between the beta testers and the first timers. He tried to bring the two groups together. Unfortunately, to an outsider, it would look as though he was plotting something behind their backs. The only way to maintain all his hard work so far and reveal his true intentions was through his sacrifice. Though, I have to admit, it did feel cheesy and a bit contrived, but I will give the episode the benefit of the doubt.

Now what the episode did fail to clarify is how Diabel's actions changed Kirito. The only interaction I see of Kirito having with Diabel is Diabel's death scene. All of a sudden Kirito realizes Diabel's intentions and the meaning behind his sacrifice. The audience has been given clues about Diabel's intentions all along, but I haven't seen evidence that Kirito himself has noticed what we, the audience, have noticed. If the episode had worked on that, the final scene of Kirito's 'betrayal' would have made much more sense and carried a lot of depth. But, oh well, this is what we have.

Ryser said:
I guess, it is as everybody mention about "Anime being too rushed then" While I could understand the logic behind each character action in most of the anime I watched. I not see much of logic here. So may someone explain this to me?

1. That knight guy, so it is in fact that he is just pretending to be a good guy, but greedy inside? Since he told that everybody will have equal distribution in the loot, and change the strategy that everybody should finish it together to his single finish just so that he could steal the rare to his own? (As MMO player myself, I would says that this kind of greedy person is failed as leader though.)

2. Main char seem to be the only guy who realized that the knight guy is such a greedy loot stealer, but he seem to think good of him when he flash it back??

3. In any MMO, it is important to have party. as main char said so himself that there are many things impossible to do it alone. Then why he chose to act like a bad guys and ditch everybody in the end, when he is actually a nice guy and could lead them if he explain it well about how the boss pattern changed from beta?

4. Why is nobody slap those who keep complaining about beta tester this, beta tester that yet? Seriously, in real MMO, it is not beta tester job to start over with newbies and teach them how to play..

Monad said:
First: Fuck you LN readers! Damn so fucking annoying every time comparing every little shit and the whole anime discussion becoming one big LN conversation comparison. Freaking annoying. It makes me wish they only made original anime.


Now to the episode. Well interesting enough but personally am still just watching to see where this is going but i do have one big question about the eating scene. Why to they eat? Does it give them points or something? Because certainly eating in the game does nothing to your stomach in reality. Also what about their real body needs? I guess people that lived with others can be found and brought to a hospital where their bodily needs will be cared but people living alone could die from lack of food and water before
they are found. I guess many of those 2000 didn't just die by losing in the game.

ShoutaAzuma said:
Episode 3 preview

swordstriker21 said:


Sorry bout that. You know how much Harry Potter fans complained about the movie adaptations. It's kinda like that.

As for your questions both were answered adequately in the novels but let me explain it to you as well. It wasn't really included in episode one but in the LNs Kayaba Akihiko gave the Japanese government a two hour grace period to disconnect the players from the main server in order to transport them to hospitals. This means every single SAO player, even those who live alone like Klein.

As for hunger in-game the system is built such that a player feels hunger and fatigue in-game to presumably make it more realistic. When you eat in-game the system is just tricking your brain into thinking it's already full from eating virtual food. Real sustenance actually comes from liquid nutrients via IV drip. You can actually go w/out eating virtual food but you'll suffer from a constant feeling of virtual hunger. Same applies to rest and sleep. Worst case you'll suffer from cases of fainting when the fatigue is high enough. And if you faint on a dungeon or field that could be very VERY dangerous.

Monad said:


Fine i get the hunger system in game but all the other stuff bring even more questions. If he disconnected the players for two hours couldn't they manage to pull them out of it at that time? Also did he also gave the government a list of the names of the players? Because as i said people living alone would have no one to notice they are in the game or when people knowing them do notice certainly will be after any two hours given, it could take days or weeks.
Also was this guy already in hiding somewhere at the launch of the game? Because what he did will certainly make him a top list wanted man. They haven't managed to arrest him after a whole month?

Maybe am just running ahead of myself and this will be answered in later episodes but if not then i really have to wonder.

Monad said:
First: Fuck you LN readers! Damn so fucking annoying every time comparing every little shit and the whole anime discussion becoming one big LN conversation comparison. Freaking annoying. It makes me wish they only made original anime.


Now to the episode. Well interesting enough but personally am still just watching to see where this is going but i do have one big question about the eating scene. Why to they eat? Does it give them points or something? Because certainly eating in the game does nothing to your stomach in reality. Also what about their real body needs? I guess people that lived with others can be found and brought to a hospital where their bodily needs will be cared but people living alone could die from lack of food and water before
they are found. I guess many of those 2000 didn't just die by losing in the game.

1lau said:
The entrance of Asuna was sadly spoiled, other than that it was a great episode
There are more people left ingame than that group attacking the first floor boss right?

Shaduge said:
what kind of anime gets 2000 posts after 2eps?

Slicer22 said:
Well 'Aria in the Starless Night' has a short continuation of it in the Material Editions section on baka-tsuki. Also he wrote a sequel for Aria set 4 days after called 'Rondo of the Transient Sword' though only 10% of it is translated atm.

Sadly we wont see either of these things in the anime since the next episode is already quite a bit past both of these maybe some day in OVA's.
I am still kind of sad that they skipped Kirito's first day story i liked it and it conected well with the novels version of Aria since his sword was brought up alot. They cut that stuff though which is to bad.

bjorno said:
I liked the episodes but after reading the LN part it felt rushed. They skipped argo.

TK8 said:


It seems Argo will be in the next episode, according to the preview on the previous page

bjorno said:


Hmm. The order is messed up though xD. It is also weird that episode 1 is a side story and not 1 from volume 1.

Shaduge said:
what kind of anime gets 2000 posts after 2eps?

TK8 said:



Huh?
Episode 1 was no side story. It was chapter 2-4 from volume 1 if I remember correctly.
Episode 2 was a side story, but I read somewhere they'll be doing the story in chronological order.