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Jul 15, 2019 5:13 AM
#201
Sphinxter said: Are you saying Fuji-san? Then the order would be 3, 1, 2, 4. I have another language quæstion I guess, a short 6 second clip https://www.speakpipe.com/voice-recorder/msg/i4m4mhl66ye1pndx I have four different renderings of the same word in four different phonological systems; could you order them for me in terms of "easiest" to "least easy" to understand for you? |
Jul 15, 2019 12:29 PM
#202
StudyingEnglish said: Yeah.Sphinxter said: Are you saying Fuji-san? Then the order would be 3, 1, 2, 4. I have another language quæstion I guess, a short 6 second clip https://www.speakpipe.com/voice-recorder/msg/i4m4mhl66ye1pndx I have four different renderings of the same word in four different phonological systems; could you order them for me in terms of "easiest" to "least easy" to understand for you? Another thing which is more porn related but I noticed that in a lot of these Japanese pornographic comments there seems to be a widespread idea that males in general do not loose an erection after ejaculation and can keep going; is that purely dramatic licence for porn or is this in general the idea in Japanese culture? |
It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
Jul 15, 2019 2:49 PM
#203
Is it true that every school has a cultural festival and like are 80% of the booths maid cafes? |
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Jul 16, 2019 7:24 AM
#204
Sphinxter said: 2 to 3 times in a row is possible but not always.StudyingEnglish said: Yeah.Sphinxter said: I have another language quæstion I guess, a short 6 second clip https://www.speakpipe.com/voice-recorder/msg/i4m4mhl66ye1pndx I have four different renderings of the same word in four different phonological systems; could you order them for me in terms of "easiest" to "least easy" to understand for you? Another thing which is more porn related but I noticed that in a lot of these Japanese pornographic comments there seems to be a widespread idea that males in general do not loose an erection after ejaculation and can keep going; is that purely dramatic licence for porn or is this in general the idea in Japanese culture? |
Jul 16, 2019 7:28 AM
#205
ohml said: No. My school didn't have any kind of cafes. Maybe it does happen in the cities, but I think that's weird. It's usually something like yakisoba, ice cream, french fries and such. Some classes do stages too.Is it true that every school has a cultural festival and like are 80% of the booths maid cafes? |
Jul 16, 2019 9:22 AM
#206
StudyingEnglish said: Please don't tell me though they call them "French" fries too in Japan — for much like the dog they are Flemish.ohml said: No. My school didn't have any kind of cafes. Maybe it does happen in the cities, but I think that's weird. It's usually something like yakisoba, ice cream, french fries and such. Some classes do stages too.Is it true that every school has a cultural festival and like are 80% of the booths maid cafes? |
It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
Jul 22, 2019 5:12 AM
#207
Sphinxter said: We call them "fried potato". I just thought "french fry" was the correct name. I guess it's not. We call "foot ball" "soccer" though lolStudyingEnglish said: Please don't tell me though they call them "French" fries too in Japan — for much like the dog they are Flemish.ohml said: Is it true that every school has a cultural festival and like are 80% of the booths maid cafes? |
Jul 22, 2019 5:15 AM
#208
StudyingEnglish said: Maneki-Mew said: I can only speak for Japan, but yes conformity is important. People say that individuality is important and stuff but what everyone is doing is trying to be normal, don't stand out, and be the same. I hate this about Japan. I believe this is why a lot of anime has a topic about having your own opinion, or don't be embarrased about something different type things. Younger generations are starting to be more individual.Did I understand the question right? I'm not sure if I understood the word conformity right. I grew up with the belief that western culture is much more about individuality and asian (chinese, japanese, korean...) is much more about conformity and what's best for society. There are undertones like that in some anime too. Is it true to such a huge extent and are there examples of that? Amd are there generation gaps about these beliefs? Are school clubs actually such a big thing? Thanks for answering questions here. School clubs is a big thing. Almost everyone joins one. Yes, thank you for answering my question! |
Jul 22, 2019 6:14 PM
#209
Are arcades still a big thing in Japan? I see them quite a bit in anime. |
Jul 22, 2019 11:43 PM
#210
Why is there so much lolicon and siscon crap in anime? Why is it seemingly deemed socially acceptable to engage in a romantic relationship with your cousin or your step sibling? As an American we see that sort of behavior as pretty fucked up and definitely under the definition of incest. Yet when I looked into it apparently it's not even just an anime thing, it's actually fucking real; even your last prime minister was married to his cousin. Second question, why do you think there's so much lolicon and siscon crap in anime? Now THAT I know is definitely deemed as socially unacceptable over there, yet it's still ridiculously common in anime so clearly there's gotta be a significant portion of the population their targeting this at otherwise they wouldn't be including it in any of these shows. I'm just struggling to see why either of these sets of things is so common in entertainment media, it's hard to wrap my mind around it when in America you'd never see this sort of thing (except when we're making fun of old stereotypes about rednecks). |
Jul 25, 2019 1:05 PM
#211
A thing I noticed in many shows is that it seems like Japanese mostly focus on hair color as a defining contrast between East-Asians and North-Europeans; it made me realize that North-Europeans that are said to have "black" hair actually have dark brown hair — is this the general mentality of Japan that they consider the defining feature of East-Asians to be their raven black hair? Because in most of Europe when they talk about the difference they mostly talk about the shape of the eyelids rather than the hair colors. |
It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
Jul 25, 2019 1:24 PM
#212
Yeah, one thing in particular, mainly about clubs, I've seen this referenced several times, more or less someone asking somebody else if they plan on joining any after-school clubs with the response being the "going home club" the implication being they don't plan on joining clubs. Is this more of a smartalec-y joke that just happens in anime or do people actually do that? |
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Jul 26, 2019 9:27 PM
#213
Lost_Viking said: Yes it is. There are a lot of them. Kids and gamers go there a lot. Are arcades still a big thing in Japan? I see them quite a bit in anime. |
Jul 26, 2019 10:00 PM
#214
Kyotosomo said: Lolicon and siscon stuff is mostly a joke.Why is there so much lolicon and siscon crap in anime? Why is it seemingly deemed socially acceptable to engage in a romantic relationship with your cousin or your step sibling? As an American we see that sort of behavior as pretty fucked up and definitely under the definition of incest. Yet when I looked into it apparently it's not even just an anime thing, it's actually fucking real; even your last prime minister was married to his cousin. Second question, why do you think there's so much lolicon and siscon crap in anime? Now THAT I know is definitely deemed as socially unacceptable over there, yet it's still ridiculously common in anime so clearly there's gotta be a significant portion of the population their targeting this at otherwise they wouldn't be including it in any of these shows. I'm just struggling to see why either of these sets of things is so common in entertainment media, it's hard to wrap my mind around it when in America you'd never see this sort of thing (except when we're making fun of old stereotypes about rednecks). Because it's not against the law or anything. People do think it's weird but what can you do about it? People loves who they love. Because anime accepts anything and there's a lot of weird people and weird authors. There are so many genres, just avoid any community you don't like. You see them a lot because it's like a meme. You don't see a lot of characters that are actually a lolicon or a siscon. So it's technically not that common the words itself is too popular. Or maybe I just don't watch those shows and don't know. |
Jul 26, 2019 10:10 PM
#215
StudyingEnglish said: So what do you think about lolicon and siscon?Kyotosomo said: Lolicon and siscon stuff is mostly a joke.Why is there so much lolicon and siscon crap in anime? Why is it seemingly deemed socially acceptable to engage in a romantic relationship with your cousin or your step sibling? As an American we see that sort of behavior as pretty fucked up and definitely under the definition of incest. Yet when I looked into it apparently it's not even just an anime thing, it's actually fucking real; even your last prime minister was married to his cousin. Second question, why do you think there's so much lolicon and siscon crap in anime? Now THAT I know is definitely deemed as socially unacceptable over there, yet it's still ridiculously common in anime so clearly there's gotta be a significant portion of the population their targeting this at otherwise they wouldn't be including it in any of these shows. I'm just struggling to see why either of these sets of things is so common in entertainment media, it's hard to wrap my mind around it when in America you'd never see this sort of thing (except when we're making fun of old stereotypes about rednecks). Because it's not against the law or anything. People do think it's weird but what can you do about it? People loves who they love. Because anime accepts anything and there's a lot of weird people and weird authors. There are so many genres, just avoid any community you don't like. You see them a lot because it's like a meme. You don't see a lot of characters that are actually a lolicon or a siscon. So it's technically not that common the words itself is too popular. Or maybe I just don't watch those shows and don't know. It has to be said though that this stuff in general seems to sell itself more though its cuteness; it's extremely rare for American entertainment to sell itself through its cuteness. Lolis and siblings are cute. I have to say though I find it incredibly common but it's indeed what you watch. I watch a lot of shows that sell themselves through the cute moments and they very often put at the very least siscon subtext in it out of nowhere. It's certainly not very common in things like long syounen but even there Attack on Titan has some elements of siscon in it but the cuteness is mostly left out. |
It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
Jul 26, 2019 10:15 PM
#216
Sphinxter said: Do you have an example? I couldn't really understand the question. Most people don't even have an opportunity to define a race. A thing I noticed in many shows is that it seems like Japanese mostly focus on hair color as a defining contrast between East-Asians and North-Europeans; it made me realize that North-Europeans that are said to have "black" hair actually have dark brown hair — is this the general mentality of Japan that they consider the defining feature of East-Asians to be their raven black hair? Because in most of Europe when they talk about the difference they mostly talk about the shape of the eyelids rather than the hair colors. |
Jul 26, 2019 10:21 PM
#217
Fleeting_Dream said: It's a real thing and it's a normal conversation. It's a joke that spread too much that it became a normal thing to say. There are videos like, "going home club beats track and field club in school festival relay". Yeah, one thing in particular, mainly about clubs, I've seen this referenced several times, more or less someone asking somebody else if they plan on joining any after-school clubs with the response being the "going home club" the implication being they don't plan on joining clubs. Is this more of a smartalec-y joke that just happens in anime or do people actually do that? |
Jul 26, 2019 10:27 PM
#218
I'm not skimming through the thread to see if it's been asked, but I see it so much in anime, probably just for character development / story, but can you walk and use the train's to get to all the places you need to go to? |
"Well, she's flatter than a pancake" -Mimi Alpacas "Woof" -Tobiichi Origami "Are you trying to turn the dormitory into a strip club!?! -Atena Saotome |
Jul 26, 2019 10:33 PM
#219
Sphinxter said: Liking underage girls are weird but I think siscons are pretty normal because nothing is wrong liking your sister. I'm fine with both as long as they don't go to sexual interest territory. StudyingEnglish said: So what do you think about lolicon and siscon?Kyotosomo said: Why is there so much lolicon and siscon crap in anime? Why is it seemingly deemed socially acceptable to engage in a romantic relationship with your cousin or your step sibling? As an American we see that sort of behavior as pretty fucked up and definitely under the definition of incest. Yet when I looked into it apparently it's not even just an anime thing, it's actually fucking real; even your last prime minister was married to his cousin. Second question, why do you think there's so much lolicon and siscon crap in anime? Now THAT I know is definitely deemed as socially unacceptable over there, yet it's still ridiculously common in anime so clearly there's gotta be a significant portion of the population their targeting this at otherwise they wouldn't be including it in any of these shows. I'm just struggling to see why either of these sets of things is so common in entertainment media, it's hard to wrap my mind around it when in America you'd never see this sort of thing (except when we're making fun of old stereotypes about rednecks). Because it's not against the law or anything. People do think it's weird but what can you do about it? People loves who they love. Because anime accepts anything and there's a lot of weird people and weird authors. There are so many genres, just avoid any community you don't like. You see them a lot because it's like a meme. You don't see a lot of characters that are actually a lolicon or a siscon. So it's technically not that common the words itself is too popular. Or maybe I just don't watch those shows and don't know. It has to be said though that this stuff in general seems to sell itself more though its cuteness; it's extremely rare for American entertainment to sell itself through its cuteness. Lolis and siblings are cute. I have to say though I find it incredibly common but it's indeed what you watch. I watch a lot of shows that sell themselves through the cute moments and they very often put at the very least siscon subtext in it out of nowhere. It's certainly not very common in things like long syounen but even there Attack on Titan has some elements of siscon in it but the cuteness is mostly left out. Is Eren considered to be a siscon? lol |
Jul 26, 2019 10:35 PM
#220
StudyingEnglish said: Yes, many:Sphinxter said: Do you have an example? I couldn't really understand the question. Most people don't even have an opportunity to define a race. A thing I noticed in many shows is that it seems like Japanese mostly focus on hair color as a defining contrast between East-Asians and North-Europeans; it made me realize that North-Europeans that are said to have "black" hair actually have dark brown hair — is this the general mentality of Japan that they consider the defining feature of East-Asians to be their raven black hair? Because in most of Europe when they talk about the difference they mostly talk about the shape of the eyelids rather than the hair colors.
I thought it stood out that they were all talking about the hair not about say the eyes because the first thing a European thinks about when he thinks about an East-Asian person is the sharper eyelids and not the hair color. |
It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
Jul 26, 2019 10:37 PM
#221
StudyingEnglish said: No, Mikasa for Eren.Sphinxter said: Liking underage girls are weird but I think siscons are pretty normal because nothing is wrong liking your sister. I'm fine with both as long as they don't go to sexual interest territory. StudyingEnglish said: Kyotosomo said: Lolicon and siscon stuff is mostly a joke.Why is there so much lolicon and siscon crap in anime? Why is it seemingly deemed socially acceptable to engage in a romantic relationship with your cousin or your step sibling? As an American we see that sort of behavior as pretty fucked up and definitely under the definition of incest. Yet when I looked into it apparently it's not even just an anime thing, it's actually fucking real; even your last prime minister was married to his cousin. Second question, why do you think there's so much lolicon and siscon crap in anime? Now THAT I know is definitely deemed as socially unacceptable over there, yet it's still ridiculously common in anime so clearly there's gotta be a significant portion of the population their targeting this at otherwise they wouldn't be including it in any of these shows. I'm just struggling to see why either of these sets of things is so common in entertainment media, it's hard to wrap my mind around it when in America you'd never see this sort of thing (except when we're making fun of old stereotypes about rednecks). Because it's not against the law or anything. People do think it's weird but what can you do about it? People loves who they love. Because anime accepts anything and there's a lot of weird people and weird authors. There are so many genres, just avoid any community you don't like. You see them a lot because it's like a meme. You don't see a lot of characters that are actually a lolicon or a siscon. So it's technically not that common the words itself is too popular. Or maybe I just don't watch those shows and don't know. It has to be said though that this stuff in general seems to sell itself more though its cuteness; it's extremely rare for American entertainment to sell itself through its cuteness. Lolis and siblings are cute. I have to say though I find it incredibly common but it's indeed what you watch. I watch a lot of shows that sell themselves through the cute moments and they very often put at the very least siscon subtext in it out of nowhere. It's certainly not very common in things like long syounen but even there Attack on Titan has some elements of siscon in it but the cuteness is mostly left out. Is Eren considered to be a siscon? lol They sort of flipped the genders but Mikasa constantly acts like an overprotective older male sibling and is also hinted to have feelings for Eren |
It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
Jul 26, 2019 10:44 PM
#222
Tropisch said: Yes you can. There's also a ticket for kids under 18 which you can ride as many trains you want for 5 days. Kids can travel around Japan and learn a lot using this ticket. I'm planning to travel myself too.I'm not skimming through the thread to see if it's been asked, but I see it so much in anime, probably just for character development / story, but can you walk and use the train's to get to all the places you need to go to? |
Jul 26, 2019 11:11 PM
#223
Sphinxter said: Wow never thought of that.It's definitely not hair color because people dye their hair these days. It's the face structure but not eyelids because there are people that doesn't have sharp eyelids. StudyingEnglish said: Yes, many:Sphinxter said: A thing I noticed in many shows is that it seems like Japanese mostly focus on hair color as a defining contrast between East-Asians and North-Europeans; it made me realize that North-Europeans that are said to have "black" hair actually have dark brown hair — is this the general mentality of Japan that they consider the defining feature of East-Asians to be their raven black hair? Because in most of Europe when they talk about the difference they mostly talk about the shape of the eyelids rather than the hair colors.
I thought it stood out that they were all talking about the hair not about say the eyes because the first thing a European thinks about when he thinks about an East-Asian person is the sharper eyelids and not the hair color. |
Jul 26, 2019 11:12 PM
#224
Sphinxter said: So Eren is considered to be the sister? lolStudyingEnglish said: No, Mikasa for Eren.Sphinxter said: StudyingEnglish said: So what do you think about lolicon and siscon?Kyotosomo said: Lolicon and siscon stuff is mostly a joke.Why is there so much lolicon and siscon crap in anime? Why is it seemingly deemed socially acceptable to engage in a romantic relationship with your cousin or your step sibling? As an American we see that sort of behavior as pretty fucked up and definitely under the definition of incest. Yet when I looked into it apparently it's not even just an anime thing, it's actually fucking real; even your last prime minister was married to his cousin. Second question, why do you think there's so much lolicon and siscon crap in anime? Now THAT I know is definitely deemed as socially unacceptable over there, yet it's still ridiculously common in anime so clearly there's gotta be a significant portion of the population their targeting this at otherwise they wouldn't be including it in any of these shows. I'm just struggling to see why either of these sets of things is so common in entertainment media, it's hard to wrap my mind around it when in America you'd never see this sort of thing (except when we're making fun of old stereotypes about rednecks). Because it's not against the law or anything. People do think it's weird but what can you do about it? People loves who they love. Because anime accepts anything and there's a lot of weird people and weird authors. There are so many genres, just avoid any community you don't like. You see them a lot because it's like a meme. You don't see a lot of characters that are actually a lolicon or a siscon. So it's technically not that common the words itself is too popular. Or maybe I just don't watch those shows and don't know. It has to be said though that this stuff in general seems to sell itself more though its cuteness; it'/s extremely rare for American entertainment to sell itself through its cuteness. Lolis and siblings are cute. I have to say though I find it incredibly common but it's indeed what you watch. I watch a lot of shows that sell themselves through the cute moments and they very often put at the very least siscon subtext in it out of nowhere. It's certainly not very common in things like long syounen but even there Attack on Titan has some elements of siscon in it but the cuteness is mostly left out. Is Eren considered to be a siscon? lol They sort of flipped the genders but Mikasa constantly acts like an overprotective older male sibling and is also hinted to have feelings for Eren |
Jul 27, 2019 8:29 AM
#225
StudyingEnglish said: Of course — classic imouto tundere pairing with protective, calm and collected aniki.Sphinxter said: So Eren is considered to be the sister? lolStudyingEnglish said: Sphinxter said: Liking underage girls are weird but I think siscons are pretty normal because nothing is wrong liking your sister. I'm fine with both as long as they don't go to sexual interest territory. StudyingEnglish said: So what do you think about lolicon and siscon?Kyotosomo said: Lolicon and siscon stuff is mostly a joke.Why is there so much lolicon and siscon crap in anime? Why is it seemingly deemed socially acceptable to engage in a romantic relationship with your cousin or your step sibling? As an American we see that sort of behavior as pretty fucked up and definitely under the definition of incest. Yet when I looked into it apparently it's not even just an anime thing, it's actually fucking real; even your last prime minister was married to his cousin. Second question, why do you think there's so much lolicon and siscon crap in anime? Now THAT I know is definitely deemed as socially unacceptable over there, yet it's still ridiculously common in anime so clearly there's gotta be a significant portion of the population their targeting this at otherwise they wouldn't be including it in any of these shows. I'm just struggling to see why either of these sets of things is so common in entertainment media, it's hard to wrap my mind around it when in America you'd never see this sort of thing (except when we're making fun of old stereotypes about rednecks). Because it's not against the law or anything. People do think it's weird but what can you do about it? People loves who they love. Because anime accepts anything and there's a lot of weird people and weird authors. There are so many genres, just avoid any community you don't like. You see them a lot because it's like a meme. You don't see a lot of characters that are actually a lolicon or a siscon. So it's technically not that common the words itself is too popular. Or maybe I just don't watch those shows and don't know. It has to be said though that this stuff in general seems to sell itself more though its cuteness; it'/s extremely rare for American entertainment to sell itself through its cuteness. Lolis and siblings are cute. I have to say though I find it incredibly common but it's indeed what you watch. I watch a lot of shows that sell themselves through the cute moments and they very often put at the very least siscon subtext in it out of nowhere. It's certainly not very common in things like long syounen but even there Attack on Titan has some elements of siscon in it but the cuteness is mostly left out. Is Eren considered to be a siscon? lol They sort of flipped the genders but Mikasa constantly acts like an overprotective older male sibling and is also hinted to have feelings for Eren Mikasa is actually the same height and heavier than Eren by official numbers by the way. |
It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
Jul 27, 2019 8:38 AM
#226
StudyingEnglish said: If you are, then you should already know that anime is not a good representation of Japan or Japanese culture. Why even make this thread?I'm a high school student in Japan. Answers are gonna be based on my surroundings, but I'll try my best. |
“Loddfafnir, listen to my counsel: You will fare well if you follow it, It will help you much if you heed it. If aware that another is wicked, say so: Make no truce or treaty with foes.” - Havamal 127 |
Jul 27, 2019 9:32 PM
#227
Sawilagar said: I don't think it's a bad representation of Japan. A lot people are enjoying it. I made this thread because my friend is watching Gintama right now, and he's having a hard time with some Japanese culture references. I thought there are other people like that and I wanted these people to enjoy anime more. Plus I wanted a place to write a lot of English.StudyingEnglish said: If you are, then you should already know that anime is not a good representation of Japan or Japanese culture. Why even make this thread?I'm a high school student in Japan. Answers are gonna be based on my surroundings, but I'll try my best. |
Jul 27, 2019 10:14 PM
#228
StudyingEnglish said: I think the poster you're addressing is using "good" in the sense of "accurate" not in the sense of "positive".Sawilagar said: I don't think it's a bad representation of Japan. A lot people are enjoying it. I made this thread because my friend is watching Gintama right now, and he's having a hard time with some Japanese culture references. I thought there are other people like that and I wanted these people to enjoy anime more. Plus I wanted a place to write a lot of English.StudyingEnglish said: I'm a high school student in Japan. Answers are gonna be based on my surroundings, but I'll try my best. Fiction is never an accurate repræsentation of reality though — an accurate repræsentation thereof is found when I look outside of my window — unsurprisingly it's boring. |
It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
Jul 28, 2019 2:29 AM
#229
*Why do the Japanese love lolicon? *Why do the Japanese like incest? *Why do the Japanese made a lot of isekai? *Why do the Japanese love high school? *Why do the Japanese have bad studios? *Why do the Japanese love working? |
All weebs creatures of the galaxy, hear this message. Those of you who listen will not be struck by western animation. You will no longer know hunger, nor pain. Your Anime have come to lead you now. Our strength shall serve as a luminous sun toward which all intelligence may blossom. And the impervious shelter beneath which you will prosper. However, for those who refuse our offer and cling to their western animation ways… For you, there will be great wrath. |
Jul 28, 2019 4:21 PM
#230
Would a teacher actually practically faint or at the very least be severely dismayed if a student used "omae" to address him? I just saw that in a scene and I think it's kind of hilarious if that's true that that can make such a difference. Like say a student would actually do this in Japan? Would there be punitive consequences? |
It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
Jul 28, 2019 4:27 PM
#231
Are there still bikers driving around town at night? Aka bosozoku |
Jul 29, 2019 2:50 AM
#232
Sphinxter said: Ohh. I'm sorry. I completely misunderstood it. StudyingEnglish said: I think the poster you're addressing is using "good" in the sense of "accurate" not in the sense of "positive".Sawilagar said: StudyingEnglish said: If you are, then you should already know that anime is not a good representation of Japan or Japanese culture. Why even make this thread?I'm a high school student in Japan. Answers are gonna be based on my surroundings, but I'll try my best. Fiction is never an accurate repræsentation of reality though — an accurate repræsentation thereof is found when I look outside of my window — unsurprisingly it's boring. |
Jul 29, 2019 2:58 AM
#233
Sawilagar said: I'm sorry I misunderstood your reply. StudyingEnglish said: If you are, then you should already know that anime is not a good representation of Japan or Japanese culture. Why even make this thread?I'm a high school student in Japan. Answers are gonna be based on my surroundings, but I'll try my best. It could of been anything. I wanted to make a thread in English. Thankfully, people had some questions. |
Jul 29, 2019 3:06 AM
#234
Nurguburu said: We don't love the lolicons.*Why do the Japanese love lolicon? *Why do the Japanese like incest? *Why do the Japanese made a lot of isekai? *Why do the Japanese love high school? *Why do the Japanese have bad studios? *Why do the Japanese love working? Everyone likes something weird. Anything is okay as long as you just imagine and enjoy it by yourself. Because people liked it, and it became a trend. Because high school is super fun. And a lot of people can relate to things. Like where? I don't work yet I don't know. |
Jul 29, 2019 3:20 AM
#235
Sphinxter said: Delinquents would do that and teachers would get pissed. It depends on the teacher but, I've seen one student getting ordered to write an apology."Omae" iis the worst choice to call a teacher lol Insults would be better because it could be a joke.Would a teacher actually practically faint or at the very least be severely dismayed if a student used "omae" to address him? I just saw that in a scene and I think it's kind of hilarious if that's true that that can make such a difference. Like say a student would actually do this in Japan? Would there be punitive consequences? |
Jul 29, 2019 3:25 AM
#236
Klad said: Yes there are. Ibaraki is famous for those people being around.Are there still bikers driving around town at night? Aka bosozoku |
Jul 29, 2019 7:53 AM
#237
StudyingEnglish said: Wow, that's fascinating; and it's perfectly acceptable to address a student one is friends with with "omae"?Sphinxter said: Delinquents would do that and teachers would get pissed. It depends on the teacher but, I've seen one student getting ordered to write an apology."Omae" iis the worst choice to call a teacher lol Insults would be better because it could be a joke.Would a teacher actually practically faint or at the very least be severely dismayed if a student used "omae" to address him? I just saw that in a scene and I think it's kind of hilarious if that's true that that can make such a difference. Like say a student would actually do this in Japan? Would there be punitive consequences? What if one were to refer to oneself with "ore-sama" when addressing the teacher? Does that actually happen or is "ore-sama" merely a meme? Edit: also: what would you say the ratio of tatami houses to hardfloors with chairs is at this point and which do you præfer? Because from where I stand tatami seems insanely practical compared to hardfloor and I understand not the displacement of the former in lieu of the latter. I'd have tatami were it available here. edit2: Also I just realized that almost all these shows in gym classes put the females in considerably shorter shorts than the males? Is this actually occurent and enforced or just creative licence for the sake of fan-service? |
SphinxterJul 29, 2019 9:40 AM
It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
Jul 29, 2019 5:05 PM
#238
Sphinxter said: It's not perfectly acceptable. People usually won't call their friends "omae". Tough guys tend to call each other "omae"(they think it's embrrassing to call people by their names lol), but normally you would call your friend by nicknames. How you were grown effects these word choices a lot.StudyingEnglish said: Wow, that's fascinating; and it's perfectly acceptable to address a student one is friends with with "omae"?Sphinxter said: Would a teacher actually practically faint or at the very least be severely dismayed if a student used "omae" to address him? I just saw that in a scene and I think it's kind of hilarious if that's true that that can make such a difference. Like say a student would actually do this in Japan? Would there be punitive consequences? What if one were to refer to oneself with "ore-sama" when addressing the teacher? Does that actually happen or is "ore-sama" merely a meme? Edit: also: what would you say the ratio of tatami houses to hardfloors with chairs is at this point and which do you præfer? Because from where I stand tatami seems insanely practical compared to hardfloor and I understand not the displacement of the former in lieu of the latter. I'd have tatami were it available here. edit2: Also I just realized that almost all these shows in gym classes put the females in considerably shorter shorts than the males? Is this actually occurent and enforced or just creative licence for the sake of fan-service? That would be embarrassing lol Yeah it's kind of a meme. |
removed-userJul 29, 2019 5:26 PM
Jul 29, 2019 5:19 PM
#239
StudyingEnglish said: Ah, I think the cultural complexity of "pronouns" in Japanese is interesting. I would assume that cartoons are not an entirely accurate reflexion of it. I'm watching a scene right now where two (male) persons that refer to themselves both typically with "boku" use "omae" for each other which is not that natural or something? Sphinxter said: It's not perfectly acceptable. People usually won't call their friends "omae". Tough guys tend to call each other "omae"(they think it's embrrassing to call people by their names lol), but normally you would call your friend by nicknames. How you were grown effects these word choices a lot.StudyingEnglish said: Sphinxter said: Delinquents would do that and teachers would get pissed. It depends on the teacher but, I've seen one student getting ordered to write an apology."Omae" iis the worst choice to call a teacher lol Insults would be better because it could be a joke.Would a teacher actually practically faint or at the very least be severely dismayed if a student used "omae" to address him? I just saw that in a scene and I think it's kind of hilarious if that's true that that can make such a difference. Like say a student would actually do this in Japan? Would there be punitive consequences? What if one were to refer to oneself with "ore-sama" when addressing the teacher? Does that actually happen or is "ore-sama" merely a meme? Edit: also: what would you say the ratio of tatami houses to hardfloors with chairs is at this point and which do you præfer? Because from where I stand tatami seems insanely practical compared to hardfloor and I understand not the displacement of the former in lieu of the latter. I'd have tatami were it available here. edit2: Also I just realized that almost all these shows in gym classes put the females in considerably shorter shorts than the males? Is this actually occurent and enforced or just creative licence for the sake of fan-service? That would be embarrassing lol Yeah it's kind of a meme. Also: to use "to grow" instead of "to raise" for human beings as you did there sounds incredibly unusual; it's not wrong per se but in general "to grow" like that is used for plants; "to raise" can also be used for plants and very formally speaking for human beings one uses "to rear" which is never used for plants or nonhuman animals. edit: more præcisely "to raise" is also never used for a single plant which is always grown but entire crops are frequently raised. |
It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
Jul 29, 2019 5:27 PM
#240
Sphinxter said: Young people, and people in the cities have hardfloors these days. Where I live is full of old style houses. So the ratio would be 9:1 in the cities, and 7:3 in the countryside. I prefer tatami. It's made to suit the environment. The humidity and stuff. And I kinda like the look of it. StudyingEnglish said: Wow, that's fascinating; and it's perfectly acceptable to address a student one is friends with with "omae"?Sphinxter said: Would a teacher actually practically faint or at the very least be severely dismayed if a student used "omae" to address him? I just saw that in a scene and I think it's kind of hilarious if that's true that that can make such a difference. Like say a student would actually do this in Japan? Would there be punitive consequences? What if one were to refer to oneself with "ore-sama" when addressing the teacher? Does that actually happen or is "ore-sama" merely a meme? Edit: also: what would you say the ratio of tatami houses to hardfloors with chairs is at this point and which do you præfer? Because from where I stand tatami seems insanely practical compared to hardfloor and I understand not the displacement of the former in lieu of the latter. I'd have tatami were it available here. edit2: Also I just realized that almost all these shows in gym classes put the females in considerably shorter shorts than the males? Is this actually occurent and enforced or just creative licence for the sake of fan-service? It used to be like that, so the people grew around the time became adults and now they direct the shows. Nah, it's fan service. Try looking at the shoujyo genre, I bet they all have the same cloth on for gym class. |
Jul 29, 2019 5:33 PM
#241
Rinoael said: I used to. Those are for kids. So yes, people do make those to stop rain. Like the day before the sports festival, we make those in class. We also put them upside down to make it rain. Kids who don't like sports festivals, would do that at home secretly. People really make teru teru bozu dolls when it's raining? |
Jul 29, 2019 5:46 PM
#242
Sphinxter said: Those characters sounds scary in text lol A same person using "boku" and "omae" is pretty scary, like they're intelligent and seems kind but actually violent to people. What's the show? I want to check that out.StudyingEnglish said: Ah, I think the cultural complexity of "pronouns" in Japanese is interesting. I would assume that cartoons are not an entirely accurate reflexion of it. I'm watching a scene right now where two (male) persons that refer to themselves both typically with "boku" use "omae" for each other which is not that natural or something? Sphinxter said: StudyingEnglish said: Wow, that's fascinating; and it's perfectly acceptable to address a student one is friends with with "omae"?Sphinxter said: Delinquents would do that and teachers would get pissed. It depends on the teacher but, I've seen one student getting ordered to write an apology."Omae" iis the worst choice to call a teacher lol Insults would be better because it could be a joke.Would a teacher actually practically faint or at the very least be severely dismayed if a student used "omae" to address him? I just saw that in a scene and I think it's kind of hilarious if that's true that that can make such a difference. Like say a student would actually do this in Japan? Would there be punitive consequences? What if one were to refer to oneself with "ore-sama" when addressing the teacher? Does that actually happen or is "ore-sama" merely a meme? Edit: also: what would you say the ratio of tatami houses to hardfloors with chairs is at this point and which do you præfer? Because from where I stand tatami seems insanely practical compared to hardfloor and I understand not the displacement of the former in lieu of the latter. I'd have tatami were it available here. edit2: Also I just realized that almost all these shows in gym classes put the females in considerably shorter shorts than the males? Is this actually occurent and enforced or just creative licence for the sake of fan-service? That would be embarrassing lol Yeah it's kind of a meme. Also: to use "to grow" instead of "to raise" for human beings as you did there sounds incredibly unusual; it's not wrong per se but in general "to grow" like that is used for plants; "to raise" can also be used for plants and very formally speaking for human beings one uses "to rear" which is never used for plants or nonhuman animals. edit: more præcisely "to raise" is also never used for a single plant which is always grown but entire crops are frequently raised. Thank you! That helps me a lot! I've been using "grow" for a long time lol |
Jul 29, 2019 6:03 PM
#243
StudyingEnglish said: It's Burning-Eyed Syana — I'm sure you heard of it. I think I referenced it here once too asking about a teacher suffixing a female student with -kunSphinxter said: Those characters sounds scary in text lol A same person using "boku" and "omae" is pretty scary, like they're intelligent and seems kind but actually violent to people. What's the show? I want to check that out.StudyingEnglish said: Sphinxter said: It's not perfectly acceptable. People usually won't call their friends "omae". Tough guys tend to call each other "omae"(they think it's embrrassing to call people by their names lol), but normally you would call your friend by nicknames. How you were grown effects these word choices a lot.StudyingEnglish said: Wow, that's fascinating; and it's perfectly acceptable to address a student one is friends with with "omae"?Sphinxter said: Delinquents would do that and teachers would get pissed. It depends on the teacher but, I've seen one student getting ordered to write an apology."Omae" iis the worst choice to call a teacher lol Insults would be better because it could be a joke.Would a teacher actually practically faint or at the very least be severely dismayed if a student used "omae" to address him? I just saw that in a scene and I think it's kind of hilarious if that's true that that can make such a difference. Like say a student would actually do this in Japan? Would there be punitive consequences? What if one were to refer to oneself with "ore-sama" when addressing the teacher? Does that actually happen or is "ore-sama" merely a meme? Edit: also: what would you say the ratio of tatami houses to hardfloors with chairs is at this point and which do you præfer? Because from where I stand tatami seems insanely practical compared to hardfloor and I understand not the displacement of the former in lieu of the latter. I'd have tatami were it available here. edit2: Also I just realized that almost all these shows in gym classes put the females in considerably shorter shorts than the males? Is this actually occurent and enforced or just creative licence for the sake of fan-service? That would be embarrassing lol Yeah it's kind of a meme. Also: to use "to grow" instead of "to raise" for human beings as you did there sounds incredibly unusual; it's not wrong per se but in general "to grow" like that is used for plants; "to raise" can also be used for plants and very formally speaking for human beings one uses "to rear" which is never used for plants or nonhuman animals. edit: more præcisely "to raise" is also never used for a single plant which is always grown but entire crops are frequently raised. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cF8IU6otno&list=PLe11FfV68XSUVtpem4gLIAMMAZ0IYHJpb&index=12#t=9m04 That's the episode and timestamp. I also think it's kind of interesting that any time a male uses "watasi" it seems to be some super refined or dignified character like Friagne but apparently Syana still uses it despite being a coarse hothead probably because sticking "ore" on a female character is comically strange or something? It's also a somewhat old show which might be related to it — I've read somewhere that "ore" is very much on the rise apparently and that characters that would surely have used "boku" 15 years back now frequently use "ore". |
It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
Jul 29, 2019 6:34 PM
#244
Sphinxter said: Well that was normal than I thought. I guess it works. StudyingEnglish said: It's Burning-Eyed Syana — I'm sure you heard of it. I think I referenced it here once too asking about a teacher suffixing a female student with -kunSphinxter said: StudyingEnglish said: Ah, I think the cultural complexity of "pronouns" in Japanese is interesting. I would assume that cartoons are not an entirely accurate reflexion of it. I'm watching a scene right now where two (male) persons that refer to themselves both typically with "boku" use "omae" for each other which is not that natural or something? Sphinxter said: It's not perfectly acceptable. People usually won't call their friends "omae". Tough guys tend to call each other "omae"(they think it's embrrassing to call people by their names lol), but normally you would call your friend by nicknames. How you were grown effects these word choices a lot.StudyingEnglish said: Wow, that's fascinating; and it's perfectly acceptable to address a student one is friends with with "omae"?Sphinxter said: Delinquents would do that and teachers would get pissed. It depends on the teacher but, I've seen one student getting ordered to write an apology."Omae" iis the worst choice to call a teacher lol Insults would be better because it could be a joke.Would a teacher actually practically faint or at the very least be severely dismayed if a student used "omae" to address him? I just saw that in a scene and I think it's kind of hilarious if that's true that that can make such a difference. Like say a student would actually do this in Japan? Would there be punitive consequences? What if one were to refer to oneself with "ore-sama" when addressing the teacher? Does that actually happen or is "ore-sama" merely a meme? Edit: also: what would you say the ratio of tatami houses to hardfloors with chairs is at this point and which do you præfer? Because from where I stand tatami seems insanely practical compared to hardfloor and I understand not the displacement of the former in lieu of the latter. I'd have tatami were it available here. edit2: Also I just realized that almost all these shows in gym classes put the females in considerably shorter shorts than the males? Is this actually occurent and enforced or just creative licence for the sake of fan-service? That would be embarrassing lol Yeah it's kind of a meme. Also: to use "to grow" instead of "to raise" for human beings as you did there sounds incredibly unusual; it's not wrong per se but in general "to grow" like that is used for plants; "to raise" can also be used for plants and very formally speaking for human beings one uses "to rear" which is never used for plants or nonhuman animals. edit: more præcisely "to raise" is also never used for a single plant which is always grown but entire crops are frequently raised. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cF8IU6otno&list=PLe11FfV68XSUVtpem4gLIAMMAZ0IYHJpb&index=12#t=9m04 That's the episode and timestamp. I also think it's kind of interesting that any time a male uses "watasi" it seems to be some super refined or dignified character like Friagne but apparently Syana still uses it despite being a coarse hothead probably because sticking "ore" on a female character is comically strange or something? It's also a somewhat old show which might be related to it — I've read somewhere that "ore" is very much on the rise apparently and that characters that would surely have used "boku" 15 years back now frequently use "ore". Female characters would use "watashi". Personality doesn't matter. There is also " uchi" but it's used by modern teenagers. Maybe? But much older shows are using "ore" though. I looked it up now and found that people are starting to use "boku" these days. I didn't know that... |
Jul 29, 2019 7:49 PM
#245
StudyingEnglish said: Maybe it's the intonation that makes it normal that you didn't expect?Sphinxter said: Well that was normal than I thought. I guess it works. StudyingEnglish said: Sphinxter said: Those characters sounds scary in text lol A same person using "boku" and "omae" is pretty scary, like they're intelligent and seems kind but actually violent to people. What's the show? I want to check that out.StudyingEnglish said: Ah, I think the cultural complexity of "pronouns" in Japanese is interesting. I would assume that cartoons are not an entirely accurate reflexion of it. I'm watching a scene right now where two (male) persons that refer to themselves both typically with "boku" use "omae" for each other which is not that natural or something? Sphinxter said: It's not perfectly acceptable. People usually won't call their friends "omae". Tough guys tend to call each other "omae"(they think it's embrrassing to call people by their names lol), but normally you would call your friend by nicknames. How you were grown effects these word choices a lot.StudyingEnglish said: Wow, that's fascinating; and it's perfectly acceptable to address a student one is friends with with "omae"?Sphinxter said: Delinquents would do that and teachers would get pissed. It depends on the teacher but, I've seen one student getting ordered to write an apology."Omae" iis the worst choice to call a teacher lol Insults would be better because it could be a joke.Would a teacher actually practically faint or at the very least be severely dismayed if a student used "omae" to address him? I just saw that in a scene and I think it's kind of hilarious if that's true that that can make such a difference. Like say a student would actually do this in Japan? Would there be punitive consequences? What if one were to refer to oneself with "ore-sama" when addressing the teacher? Does that actually happen or is "ore-sama" merely a meme? Edit: also: what would you say the ratio of tatami houses to hardfloors with chairs is at this point and which do you præfer? Because from where I stand tatami seems insanely practical compared to hardfloor and I understand not the displacement of the former in lieu of the latter. I'd have tatami were it available here. edit2: Also I just realized that almost all these shows in gym classes put the females in considerably shorter shorts than the males? Is this actually occurent and enforced or just creative licence for the sake of fan-service? That would be embarrassing lol Yeah it's kind of a meme. Also: to use "to grow" instead of "to raise" for human beings as you did there sounds incredibly unusual; it's not wrong per se but in general "to grow" like that is used for plants; "to raise" can also be used for plants and very formally speaking for human beings one uses "to rear" which is never used for plants or nonhuman animals. edit: more præcisely "to raise" is also never used for a single plant which is always grown but entire crops are frequently raised. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cF8IU6otno&list=PLe11FfV68XSUVtpem4gLIAMMAZ0IYHJpb&index=12#t=9m04 That's the episode and timestamp. I also think it's kind of interesting that any time a male uses "watasi" it seems to be some super refined or dignified character like Friagne but apparently Syana still uses it despite being a coarse hothead probably because sticking "ore" on a female character is comically strange or something? It's also a somewhat old show which might be related to it — I've read somewhere that "ore" is very much on the rise apparently and that characters that would surely have used "boku" 15 years back now frequently use "ore". Female characters would use "watashi". Personality doesn't matter. There is also " uchi" but it's used by modern teenagers. Maybe? But much older shows are using "ore" though. I looked it up now and found that people are starting to use "boku" these days. I didn't know that... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRmbe3xY7oI#t=7m25 This is by the way the scene of the teacher practically fainting from being addressed with "omae"; there are some other things I found inscrutable like in some series characters practically fainting because two other characters address each other by first name but in this series the fact that Syana and Yuuzi refer to each other by first name without honorific seems not to leave any real impression upon any of the other characters. Here in the Netherlands I've always addressed all my teachers by first name and in reverse and seldom even knew their last names; shit is not as complicated here. |
It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
Jul 30, 2019 2:01 AM
#246
Sphinxter said: It seems like the teacher is just scared. He was surprized by the strong word choice. StudyingEnglish said: Maybe it's the intonation that makes it normal that you didn't expect?Sphinxter said: StudyingEnglish said: It's Burning-Eyed Syana — I'm sure you heard of it. I think I referenced it here once too asking about a teacher suffixing a female student with -kunSphinxter said: Those characters sounds scary in text lol A same person using "boku" and "omae" is pretty scary, like they're intelligent and seems kind but actually violent to people. What's the show? I want to check that out.StudyingEnglish said: Ah, I think the cultural complexity of "pronouns" in Japanese is interesting. I would assume that cartoons are not an entirely accurate reflexion of it. I'm watching a scene right now where two (male) persons that refer to themselves both typically with "boku" use "omae" for each other which is not that natural or something? Sphinxter said: It's not perfectly acceptable. People usually won't call their friends "omae". Tough guys tend to call each other "omae"(they think it's embrrassing to call people by their names lol), but normally you would call your friend by nicknames. How you were grown effects these word choices a lot.StudyingEnglish said: Wow, that's fascinating; and it's perfectly acceptable to address a student one is friends with with "omae"?Sphinxter said: Delinquents would do that and teachers would get pissed. It depends on the teacher but, I've seen one student getting ordered to write an apology."Omae" iis the worst choice to call a teacher lol Insults would be better because it could be a joke.Would a teacher actually practically faint or at the very least be severely dismayed if a student used "omae" to address him? I just saw that in a scene and I think it's kind of hilarious if that's true that that can make such a difference. Like say a student would actually do this in Japan? Would there be punitive consequences? What if one were to refer to oneself with "ore-sama" when addressing the teacher? Does that actually happen or is "ore-sama" merely a meme? Edit: also: what would you say the ratio of tatami houses to hardfloors with chairs is at this point and which do you præfer? Because from where I stand tatami seems insanely practical compared to hardfloor and I understand not the displacement of the former in lieu of the latter. I'd have tatami were it available here. edit2: Also I just realized that almost all these shows in gym classes put the females in considerably shorter shorts than the males? Is this actually occurent and enforced or just creative licence for the sake of fan-service? That would be embarrassing lol Yeah it's kind of a meme. Also: to use "to grow" instead of "to raise" for human beings as you did there sounds incredibly unusual; it's not wrong per se but in general "to grow" like that is used for plants; "to raise" can also be used for plants and very formally speaking for human beings one uses "to rear" which is never used for plants or nonhuman animals. edit: more præcisely "to raise" is also never used for a single plant which is always grown but entire crops are frequently raised. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cF8IU6otno&list=PLe11FfV68XSUVtpem4gLIAMMAZ0IYHJpb&index=12#t=9m04 That's the episode and timestamp. I also think it's kind of interesting that any time a male uses "watasi" it seems to be some super refined or dignified character like Friagne but apparently Syana still uses it despite being a coarse hothead probably because sticking "ore" on a female character is comically strange or something? It's also a somewhat old show which might be related to it — I've read somewhere that "ore" is very much on the rise apparently and that characters that would surely have used "boku" 15 years back now frequently use "ore". Female characters would use "watashi". Personality doesn't matter. There is also " uchi" but it's used by modern teenagers. Maybe? But much older shows are using "ore" though. I looked it up now and found that people are starting to use "boku" these days. I didn't know that... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRmbe3xY7oI#t=7m25 This is by the way the scene of the teacher practically fainting from being addressed with "omae"; there are some other things I found inscrutable like in some series characters practically fainting because two other characters address each other by first name but in this series the fact that Syana and Yuuzi refer to each other by first name without honorific seems not to leave any real impression upon any of the other characters. Here in the Netherlands I've always addressed all my teachers by first name and in reverse and seldom even knew their last names; shit is not as complicated here. As Japanese, I really don't know how to call a person older than me in English. It feels strange calling someone older than me without any honorific. |
Jul 30, 2019 9:41 AM
#247
StudyingEnglish said: "Mr. Johnson" will do fine in English but often first names are quickly used.Sphinxter said: It seems like the teacher is just scared. He was surprized by the strong word choice. StudyingEnglish said: Sphinxter said: Well that was normal than I thought. I guess it works. StudyingEnglish said: It's Burning-Eyed Syana — I'm sure you heard of it. I think I referenced it here once too asking about a teacher suffixing a female student with -kunSphinxter said: Those characters sounds scary in text lol A same person using "boku" and "omae" is pretty scary, like they're intelligent and seems kind but actually violent to people. What's the show? I want to check that out.StudyingEnglish said: Ah, I think the cultural complexity of "pronouns" in Japanese is interesting. I would assume that cartoons are not an entirely accurate reflexion of it. I'm watching a scene right now where two (male) persons that refer to themselves both typically with "boku" use "omae" for each other which is not that natural or something? Sphinxter said: It's not perfectly acceptable. People usually won't call their friends "omae". Tough guys tend to call each other "omae"(they think it's embrrassing to call people by their names lol), but normally you would call your friend by nicknames. How you were grown effects these word choices a lot.StudyingEnglish said: Wow, that's fascinating; and it's perfectly acceptable to address a student one is friends with with "omae"?Sphinxter said: Delinquents would do that and teachers would get pissed. It depends on the teacher but, I've seen one student getting ordered to write an apology."Omae" iis the worst choice to call a teacher lol Insults would be better because it could be a joke.Would a teacher actually practically faint or at the very least be severely dismayed if a student used "omae" to address him? I just saw that in a scene and I think it's kind of hilarious if that's true that that can make such a difference. Like say a student would actually do this in Japan? Would there be punitive consequences? What if one were to refer to oneself with "ore-sama" when addressing the teacher? Does that actually happen or is "ore-sama" merely a meme? Edit: also: what would you say the ratio of tatami houses to hardfloors with chairs is at this point and which do you præfer? Because from where I stand tatami seems insanely practical compared to hardfloor and I understand not the displacement of the former in lieu of the latter. I'd have tatami were it available here. edit2: Also I just realized that almost all these shows in gym classes put the females in considerably shorter shorts than the males? Is this actually occurent and enforced or just creative licence for the sake of fan-service? That would be embarrassing lol Yeah it's kind of a meme. Also: to use "to grow" instead of "to raise" for human beings as you did there sounds incredibly unusual; it's not wrong per se but in general "to grow" like that is used for plants; "to raise" can also be used for plants and very formally speaking for human beings one uses "to rear" which is never used for plants or nonhuman animals. edit: more præcisely "to raise" is also never used for a single plant which is always grown but entire crops are frequently raised. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cF8IU6otno&list=PLe11FfV68XSUVtpem4gLIAMMAZ0IYHJpb&index=12#t=9m04 That's the episode and timestamp. I also think it's kind of interesting that any time a male uses "watasi" it seems to be some super refined or dignified character like Friagne but apparently Syana still uses it despite being a coarse hothead probably because sticking "ore" on a female character is comically strange or something? It's also a somewhat old show which might be related to it — I've read somewhere that "ore" is very much on the rise apparently and that characters that would surely have used "boku" 15 years back now frequently use "ore". Female characters would use "watashi". Personality doesn't matter. There is also " uchi" but it's used by modern teenagers. Maybe? But much older shows are using "ore" though. I looked it up now and found that people are starting to use "boku" these days. I didn't know that... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRmbe3xY7oI#t=7m25 This is by the way the scene of the teacher practically fainting from being addressed with "omae"; there are some other things I found inscrutable like in some series characters practically fainting because two other characters address each other by first name but in this series the fact that Syana and Yuuzi refer to each other by first name without honorific seems not to leave any real impression upon any of the other characters. Here in the Netherlands I've always addressed all my teachers by first name and in reverse and seldom even knew their last names; shit is not as complicated here. As Japanese, I really don't know how to call a person older than me in English. It feels strange calling someone older than me without any honorific. Also I'm 30 years old but never fear I act and look nothing like it. Also with twins is it really the case that the older of the two (by like 10 minutes) is addressed as "onii-san" by the 10 minute younger one and in reverse the older one just addresses the younger by first name? Because that to mee is so funny that 10 minutes makes that difference. |
It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
Aug 1, 2019 6:36 AM
#248
Sphinxter said: But I heard that it's pretty unusual to call some one with a Mr. StudyingEnglish said: "Mr. Johnson" will do fine in English but often first names are quickly used.Sphinxter said: StudyingEnglish said: Maybe it's the intonation that makes it normal that you didn't expect?Sphinxter said: Well that was normal than I thought. I guess it works. StudyingEnglish said: It's Burning-Eyed Syana — I'm sure you heard of it. I think I referenced it here once too asking about a teacher suffixing a female student with -kunSphinxter said: Those characters sounds scary in text lol A same person using "boku" and "omae" is pretty scary, like they're intelligent and seems kind but actually violent to people. What's the show? I want to check that out.StudyingEnglish said: Ah, I think the cultural complexity of "pronouns" in Japanese is interesting. I would assume that cartoons are not an entirely accurate reflexion of it. I'm watching a scene right now where two (male) persons that refer to themselves both typically with "boku" use "omae" for each other which is not that natural or something? Sphinxter said: It's not perfectly acceptable. People usually won't call their friends "omae". Tough guys tend to call each other "omae"(they think it's embrrassing to call people by their names lol), but normally you would call your friend by nicknames. How you were grown effects these word choices a lot.StudyingEnglish said: Wow, that's fascinating; and it's perfectly acceptable to address a student one is friends with with "omae"?Sphinxter said: Delinquents would do that and teachers would get pissed. It depends on the teacher but, I've seen one student getting ordered to write an apology."Omae" iis the worst choice to call a teacher lol Insults would be better because it could be a joke.Would a teacher actually practically faint or at the very least be severely dismayed if a student used "omae" to address him? I just saw that in a scene and I think it's kind of hilarious if that's true that that can make such a difference. Like say a student would actually do this in Japan? Would there be punitive consequences? What if one were to refer to oneself with "ore-sama" when addressing the teacher? Does that actually happen or is "ore-sama" merely a meme? Edit: also: what would you say the ratio of tatami houses to hardfloors with chairs is at this point and which do you præfer? Because from where I stand tatami seems insanely practical compared to hardfloor and I understand not the displacement of the former in lieu of the latter. I'd have tatami were it available here. edit2: Also I just realized that almost all these shows in gym classes put the females in considerably shorter shorts than the males? Is this actually occurent and enforced or just creative licence for the sake of fan-service? That would be embarrassing lol Yeah it's kind of a meme. Also: to use "to grow" instead of "to raise" for human beings as you did there sounds incredibly unusual; it's not wrong per se but in general "to grow" like that is used for plants; "to raise" can also be used for plants and very formally speaking for human beings one uses "to rear" which is never used for plants or nonhuman animals. edit: more præcisely "to raise" is also never used for a single plant which is always grown but entire crops are frequently raised. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cF8IU6otno&list=PLe11FfV68XSUVtpem4gLIAMMAZ0IYHJpb&index=12#t=9m04 That's the episode and timestamp. I also think it's kind of interesting that any time a male uses "watasi" it seems to be some super refined or dignified character like Friagne but apparently Syana still uses it despite being a coarse hothead probably because sticking "ore" on a female character is comically strange or something? It's also a somewhat old show which might be related to it — I've read somewhere that "ore" is very much on the rise apparently and that characters that would surely have used "boku" 15 years back now frequently use "ore". Female characters would use "watashi". Personality doesn't matter. There is also " uchi" but it's used by modern teenagers. Maybe? But much older shows are using "ore" though. I looked it up now and found that people are starting to use "boku" these days. I didn't know that... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRmbe3xY7oI#t=7m25 This is by the way the scene of the teacher practically fainting from being addressed with "omae"; there are some other things I found inscrutable like in some series characters practically fainting because two other characters address each other by first name but in this series the fact that Syana and Yuuzi refer to each other by first name without honorific seems not to leave any real impression upon any of the other characters. Here in the Netherlands I've always addressed all my teachers by first name and in reverse and seldom even knew their last names; shit is not as complicated here. As Japanese, I really don't know how to call a person older than me in English. It feels strange calling someone older than me without any honorific. Also I'm 30 years old but never fear I act and look nothing like it. Also with twins is it really the case that the older of the two (by like 10 minutes) is addressed as "onii-san" by the 10 minute younger one and in reverse the older one just addresses the younger by first name? Because that to mee is so funny that 10 minutes makes that difference. Siblings would call each other by names. I'm not sure which is more popular though, name or onii/onee. And also, when you are calling you older sibling, it would be a "chan". "Onii-san/oneesan" is too well mannered. I've never seen anyone use it. |
Aug 1, 2019 11:20 AM
#249
Japanese language is pretty colorful when it comes to ways of calling your sibling. お姉ちゃん、お姉さん、お姉様、姉ちゃん、姉さん、お姉たん (toddlers only), 姉貴、姉上 and maybe more. all just to refer to your older sister. edit: another one: ネーネー |
DreamingBeatsAug 1, 2019 11:33 AM
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Aug 1, 2019 12:11 PM
#250
StudyingEnglish said: Certainly not a stranger but indeed the Anglo-Saxon will switch to first name base far more quickly than the Japanese I would assume. The English æquivalent of the Japanese practice of even putting "-san" behind the names of one's parents as in saying "Mr. Father" in English would be highly odd.Sphinxter said: But I heard that it's pretty unusual to call some one with a Mr. StudyingEnglish said: Sphinxter said: It seems like the teacher is just scared. He was surprized by the strong word choice. StudyingEnglish said: Maybe it's the intonation that makes it normal that you didn't expect?Sphinxter said: Well that was normal than I thought. I guess it works. StudyingEnglish said: It's Burning-Eyed Syana — I'm sure you heard of it. I think I referenced it here once too asking about a teacher suffixing a female student with -kunSphinxter said: Those characters sounds scary in text lol A same person using "boku" and "omae" is pretty scary, like they're intelligent and seems kind but actually violent to people. What's the show? I want to check that out.StudyingEnglish said: Ah, I think the cultural complexity of "pronouns" in Japanese is interesting. I would assume that cartoons are not an entirely accurate reflexion of it. I'm watching a scene right now where two (male) persons that refer to themselves both typically with "boku" use "omae" for each other which is not that natural or something? Sphinxter said: It's not perfectly acceptable. People usually won't call their friends "omae". Tough guys tend to call each other "omae"(they think it's embrrassing to call people by their names lol), but normally you would call your friend by nicknames. How you were grown effects these word choices a lot.StudyingEnglish said: Wow, that's fascinating; and it's perfectly acceptable to address a student one is friends with with "omae"?Sphinxter said: Delinquents would do that and teachers would get pissed. It depends on the teacher but, I've seen one student getting ordered to write an apology."Omae" iis the worst choice to call a teacher lol Insults would be better because it could be a joke.Would a teacher actually practically faint or at the very least be severely dismayed if a student used "omae" to address him? I just saw that in a scene and I think it's kind of hilarious if that's true that that can make such a difference. Like say a student would actually do this in Japan? Would there be punitive consequences? What if one were to refer to oneself with "ore-sama" when addressing the teacher? Does that actually happen or is "ore-sama" merely a meme? Edit: also: what would you say the ratio of tatami houses to hardfloors with chairs is at this point and which do you præfer? Because from where I stand tatami seems insanely practical compared to hardfloor and I understand not the displacement of the former in lieu of the latter. I'd have tatami were it available here. edit2: Also I just realized that almost all these shows in gym classes put the females in considerably shorter shorts than the males? Is this actually occurent and enforced or just creative licence for the sake of fan-service? That would be embarrassing lol Yeah it's kind of a meme. Also: to use "to grow" instead of "to raise" for human beings as you did there sounds incredibly unusual; it's not wrong per se but in general "to grow" like that is used for plants; "to raise" can also be used for plants and very formally speaking for human beings one uses "to rear" which is never used for plants or nonhuman animals. edit: more præcisely "to raise" is also never used for a single plant which is always grown but entire crops are frequently raised. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cF8IU6otno&list=PLe11FfV68XSUVtpem4gLIAMMAZ0IYHJpb&index=12#t=9m04 That's the episode and timestamp. I also think it's kind of interesting that any time a male uses "watasi" it seems to be some super refined or dignified character like Friagne but apparently Syana still uses it despite being a coarse hothead probably because sticking "ore" on a female character is comically strange or something? It's also a somewhat old show which might be related to it — I've read somewhere that "ore" is very much on the rise apparently and that characters that would surely have used "boku" 15 years back now frequently use "ore". Female characters would use "watashi". Personality doesn't matter. There is also " uchi" but it's used by modern teenagers. Maybe? But much older shows are using "ore" though. I looked it up now and found that people are starting to use "boku" these days. I didn't know that... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRmbe3xY7oI#t=7m25 This is by the way the scene of the teacher practically fainting from being addressed with "omae"; there are some other things I found inscrutable like in some series characters practically fainting because two other characters address each other by first name but in this series the fact that Syana and Yuuzi refer to each other by first name without honorific seems not to leave any real impression upon any of the other characters. Here in the Netherlands I've always addressed all my teachers by first name and in reverse and seldom even knew their last names; shit is not as complicated here. As Japanese, I really don't know how to call a person older than me in English. It feels strange calling someone older than me without any honorific. Also I'm 30 years old but never fear I act and look nothing like it. Also with twins is it really the case that the older of the two (by like 10 minutes) is addressed as "onii-san" by the 10 minute younger one and in reverse the older one just addresses the younger by first name? Because that to mee is so funny that 10 minutes makes that difference. Siblings would call each other by names. I'm not sure which is more popular though, name or onii/onee. And also, when you are calling you older sibling, it would be a "chan". "Onii-san/oneesan" is too well mannered. I've never seen anyone use it. What about using "otouto" to directly address a younger sibling? I noticed that I never saw that and only first name for a younger one and "otouto" only being used in third person. I also never saw "otouto-tyan" only "otouto-san" come to think of it.Edit: also do things like "okaa-tyan" and "otou-tyan" ever occur or is that like super weird? I think I have seen "obaa-tyan" |
SphinxterAug 1, 2019 6:47 PM
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