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Huy said: So clearly we can't hate it for being narratively broken, for having world-building that is fractured and/or unexplored in every which way imaginable, for taking an asinine, out of nowhere turn without any worthwhile follow-up, for trying desperately to make us feel for pathetically written mannequins with heinous dialogue, or for disappointing on a visual or entertainment level, right? Clearly, it's because it wasn't bombastic enough (it wasn't a thrilling spectacle despite the fights, colors, and increasing sense of scale) and because we didn't have broken, self-loathing people as protagonists (except Hiro and Zero-Two were blatantly broken and self-loathing people all the way from episode 1 to episode 23). Clearly, we can't watch to see if this show gets better or because we want to talk about it in its entirety.Wow all the hate just because it wasn't crazy over the top kill la kill and it wasn't psycho pathetic Shinji from Evangelion. No craziness for the insane people and no scum Shinji to lift the self esteem of the sad anxiety ridden other half of the audience. You can tell I'm right by seeing how people who hated it still watched it till the end. So desperate to gratify above mentioned cravings am I right? Or living a sad boring life so they don't have anything better to do than torture themselves with stuff they don't even like. Well I thoroughly enjoyed this anime and I quite enjoy witnessing the masochistic behavior of the haters too :D Also, wow do you really want to hit the "fuck Shinji because he ran away from traumatic experiences and being a mentally damaged human being dealing with these things and occasionally manning up but that clearly never matters because he cried and ran away a few times" bandwagon. At least he and the Evangelion cast act like actual human beings with hobbies and multiple personality traits, Shinji included. |
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peetza said: I can't believe this shit wasted my time with flimsy ass characters and disgraced the mecha genre just to make some commentary on how we treat the planet and don't spend enough time on interpersonal relationships. Almost every episode I found myself wishing out loud for tragedy to befall everyone in this show. I think people usually drop the series in this kind of situation.. |
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Well, I don't fill like making an entire post about my complains. I enjoyed the show but I still noticed some random BS, fanservice disguised as plot, and whatnot. The anime started normal, overhyper even, with little to no explanations. As it advanced, giving more and more questions, only by the second half of the anime it started giving us lore, history, explanations, past, future, etc. The anime got a lot better by the end of first half but then peaked at episode 20 I think? I don't remember but it stopped. Then the new aliens came... the princess disappeared (all the buildup for that...shame) and the spacial arc started... oh god... Well, good-ish things regarding this episode, this... epilogue: - I'm happy for all the couples, really. They made me smile =) which was something I was not expecting to. Goro got to be with Ichigo, Mitsuru and Kokoro stayed together (I don't know why they have not recovered their memories fully yet) - I'm sorry for Ikuno, who still grew old prematurely =( - Boi, Are you saying our beautiful and perfect Nana is gonna be young looking for like...for ever? B O I. Hachi, you lucky bastard. By the way, I found it so funny and wholesome how he kept trying to sound like he didn't have emotions... dude was a bag full of feelings since episode 20ish. Nice Kudere there, Hachi. - The massive passage of time scene was a good resource for the audience to feel the pain of the years going by, leaving lives behind; seeing how the sakura tree grew more and more and the civilization behind it expanded... and how "Hiro" and "Zero Two" met again. I admit it was cute. I mean, the passing years scene per se touched me more than Hiro and Zero two, not gonna lie xD It's Trigger, boy, they've have done it before. They love to make fanservice part of the lore. You know what they love more than that? Getting away with it xD Yeah, very late into the series (I ended up not being against explaining the lore this late) they explain some things, you know, lore rules, but still... WHY? It's just because. There's no much jiggle-room. They wanted it to be like that and they made it like it. ArrRti said: - Hiro's miraculous regeneration at ep6 , which can/could be explained later on, because he drank 02's blood Still, I wouldn't call it an explanation. I don't know what that was or why it stopped. It just did. Trigger doing Trigger things and getting away with it cause... PLOT DEVICES! ArrRti said: - Strelizia Apus' design with Zero Two as a giant mecha. Seriously?! It'd be enough if Hiro could speak with 02 through their minds instead of showing something that ridicoulous. I swear I felt the same. I was like "I think I'm gonna vomit" while facepalming. What the F was that? Couldn't they make something less embarrassing and cringy? It was painful to watch, honestly. ArrRti said: - beating the final showdown through the power of friendship, many galaxies from each other away, Deus Ex machina much. Although it still isn't as bad as for example the finale of "Soul Eater". I was about to rise my hands into the air so I could give some energy for Goku's genkidama. |
| Alright, it's time for me to spill out all that I have to say about all of this... I was so happy to see Mitsuru's and Kokoro's child being born! A child named Ai. It seems like Mitsuru's and Kokoro's memories won't ever be restored, but the way as it's going now seems like that won't be a problem as they'll create the memories all over again! Strelizia Alpha/apath final battle was incredibly awesome! And seeing how this golden true form Strelizia finishes the implementation of the bomb was just epic! Followed by that is the farewell and promise of full blue Hiro and full red Zero 2, confessing their love again as they disappear along with the VIRM's planet. Their sacrifice is the beginning of a bright future for mankind... Wow! So the returned klaxosaurs enters into the Earth and give life energy to the whole planet. Even more chance of rebuo=ilding society! And now... The survivors continue on with their life, re-learning, re-building, re-everything good to create a world in which they'll be able to live their life. After the 8 years time skip, the changes were apparent. Squad 13 have started to create families together with their prospective partners, more kids are better in this situation, to repopulate the Earth! Besides that, I love how the squad found a job such as Zorome being a teacher, Futoshi being a baker and Ikuno being a scientist. I just really love how beautifully presented it is when showing the audience how times have flown by. From the moment Squad 13 stand underneath the Sakura tree reflecting on how much of an impact Hiro and Zero 2 was on the squad as a whole, until the time where society ahs been reestablished, where skyscapers fill the sky magnificently and until the incarnations of Hiro and Zero 2 have finally reunited back together, fulfilling their promises with each other and with the whole squad. Meanwhile, immortals such as Hachi and Nana acts as the overseer of humanity through time. Am I blind or what?! Did I not notice the sailing ship of Hachi X Nana!? Well, one thing for sure is that Darling in the FranXX is a rereshing show that quite rarely shows up. The feeling of watching a show together where nobody has ever seen before felt like a spectacular journey. By no means is this show perfect or even close to it. And the ending itself was quite predictable, but by no means was it all bad. This show was fucking litttt! And the happy ending filled with hopes and dreams is like the ultimate cherry on top, sealing everything this show had to offer was the reunion of Hiro's and Zero 2's incarnations. What an excellent show... Joyful tears are literally swelling up in my eyes righr now, and it feels nice. Of course this show has its similarities with Evangelion, some even being almost literally a blatant ripoff of Eva. But the way it's presented is different and I like that. All the things that make Darling in the FranXX different, however small or big make it clear to me that an amazing show is an amazing show, whether it be an original idea or ideas that were inspired by other media. |
ShadowkillZOct 4, 2018 3:52 PM
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| After episode 20, I feel like like this series got real crazy, real fast. Introduction of a 3rd party and, not just any normal 3rd party, a freakin' universe-consuming, planet destroying hive mind species from another universe. Now, I'm not saying I didn't like this series but I just feel like too many tropes were being crammed into this series. It went from a Blue Gender to a Guilty Crown and ended with a Gurren Lagann. This was a series that came close to hitting a lot of good marks, but fell short of each. |
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| Late to write in this episode discussions, but like the majority here said, this ending totally bad. |
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| This episode was the perfect conclusion, sorry your ship was ruined anons. |
| What level of gravedigging is this? Anyway I loved this anime. Not the ending I was expecting (or maybe I was) but turned out well and full of feelings. Left me feeling empty for a week. |
dc22 said: This episode was the perfect conclusion, sorry your ship was ruined anons. Which ship got ruined lol? |
Ariavartan said: dc22 said: This episode was the perfect conclusion, sorry your ship was ruined anons. Which ship got ruined lol? Zero Two and Hiro never got the happy ending the others did, reincarnation doesn't count. |
dc22 said: Zero Two and Hiro never got the happy ending the others did, reincarnation doesn't count. Not really, they got the happiest ending amongst all characters. The ending is literally a combination of diebuster, angel beats and your name. And all of them are conventionally considered as happy/positive endings. None of the other ships got as much of a happy ending as them. Even Nishigori himself stated that it was a happy ending. I dunno about you but I think constantly coming back from dead and then falling in love with my gf and being soulmates again and again is pretty much a happy ending to me. And don't say it doesn't count because the show showed it and it did count. Phendrus explained it better than I did. |
AriavartanOct 15, 2018 5:02 AM
| I recently just watched the series in a couple of days in a binge. I really, really liked the anime, like a lot. But, I didn't quite feel right about the ending. I thought at first it was just because I wanted to see the protagonists make it back alive and that I just didn't buy into reincarnation, and it is partly true, I don't. Even in the story's fictional context, I can't help but feel that every iteration of the supposed soul is its own unique being. I don't consider the two children at the end the protagonists at all. So, for me at least, it is as if they really died. Considering I cared about those two more than everyone else (not surprising giving their story focus and screen time) this alone would be enough to make the ending bittersweet for me (I'm not a fan of bittersweet). However, that conclusion didn't feel right either. There was something else that was nagging me. As I woke up today, it finally hit me. The reincarnation thing aside, what got under my skin was...the over importance of collective humanity in the end. Think about it. Up til the very end, 02 saw what her race was as a beast and didn't want her lover Hiro to be like her. They both died after he fully transformed. No remnant of the queen or the two made it back to join with humanity and reclaim the earth with them. Rather, the Klaxosaurs alone came back to act as a means for just humans to carry on. Even amongst humanity, Ikuno, the lesbian (or bi) character amongst the main cast gave her all so that everyone else could go on and procreate and live full lives. She ultimately dies alone without a lover. What all that was boiling down for me is a message that if you aren't able to contribute to the collective of humanity by procreating to push humanity on, you should instead sacrifice your life in other ways for its benefit and be revered for that work by humanity. While I do see the notion of that message noble in a way, I also find it, well, as I said before, giving over importance on the collective of humanity. I do think it's important to continue one's species, but it shouldn't be a big deal for those who don't fit into that role to have fully normal lives alongside it. It shouldn't mean you have to sacrifice your life to make up for your lack of (human) procreation. A more ideal ending for me would be one where the Klaxo-sapiens aren't seen as beasts by the story's narrative. For 02 and everyone else to realize it doesn't matter what you are, but who you are. I think it would of been much better for 02 and Hiro to have made it back with the surviving Klaxosaurs and went to live on with their friends, having Klaxo-sapien children that grow up alongside with humankind and ultimately share earth together. I also don't think it would of been bad at all for Ikuno to have found someone by the end of her life as well. Clearly, humans are capable of great moral wrongs by this story's own events. A human can easily be like a beast. But, the ending doesn't seem to let this facet of its very own story add nuance to its final note. That's what bothers me. So yeah, for me, it isn't really a happy ending. It's a forced bittersweet one, likely resonating with the director's view on humanity and perhaps even their religious views with the whole reincarnation thing. I'd still rate the series a 9 / 10 overall for me, as I really enjoyed this show. But, I can't give it a perfect 10 despite my mostly positive feelings for it due to its conclusion. Heck, I probably should give it an 8 in all honesty, but I'd rather focus on all the positive vibes I got from the show than the sour note at the end. So, yeah, that's my take on the ending, or well, how I truly felt about it. I can see how it can be viewed as a happy ending by others, but that isn't the case for me at all, and so I have to be true to myself on that point. An almost perfect anime for my viewing experience. |
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Info-Chan said: I recently just watched the series in a couple of days in a binge. I really, really liked the anime, like a lot. But, I didn't quite feel right about the ending. You are not wrong in thinking like that. I already made a statement that this is a classic case of esoteric happy ending that only very few can really consider as a happy ending. The ending of Angel Beats worked there because the show spent episodes to show that the soul is a very unique being and each iteration being the same person considering its a romcom taking place in after life. The ending of Your Name worked there because the show spent its time to show that even if they forgot everything, its still them and feelings for each other is still the same as when they remembered it. And the ending of Diebuster is a straight up happy ending where they did survive. On the other hand here the show not only never bothered to explain the nature of souls within the context of the show, it was never really brought up until in the last episode, we have no idea who those kids to actually care are as it was just a 10s epilogue scene and its not a straight up happy ending like diebuster. |
AriavartanOct 15, 2018 9:32 PM
| i regret watching past episode 19 fucking trainwreck can never see zero 2 the same way any more |
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Huy said: I like your attitude. These whiners and small minds are just too much. I liked it too.Wow all the hate just because it wasn't crazy over the top kill la kill and it wasn't psycho pathetic Shinji from Evangelion. No craziness for the insane people and no scum Shinji to lift the self esteem of the sad anxiety ridden other half of the audience. You can tell I'm right by seeing how people who hated it still watched it till the end. So desperate to gratify above mentioned cravings am I right? Or living a sad boring life so they don't have anything better to do than torture themselves with stuff they don't even like. Well I thoroughly enjoyed this anime and I quite enjoy witnessing the masochistic behavior of the haters too :D Phendrus said: i agree with you, it was a damn good ending. Darling was a great series from start to finish.Ariavartan said: Was it really a happy ending? I have seen enough people considering it a tragedy especially on /a/ and very few who consider it a happy ending. I think it was a bit inconclusive. Maybe an extended epilogue OVA would fix my complains but for now I kind of consider this a case of esoteric happy ending. "Inconclusive?" What, do you think a piano fell on them as soon as the camera cut to black, or that reincarnated Zero Two turned out to have some sort of terminal illness? A story doesn't have to explicitly state "happy ending" (or some other form of ending) for that ending to be clear. Given everything that they said to each other during/after the final battle, the significance of the tree, and the throwbacks to their first, fateful meeting, it couldn't be more clear that the intended takeaway was that they fell in love again and lived happily together. I mean, I suppose the show could have been more clear by being exceedingly blunt and writing "happily ever after" at the end, but that would have been pretty flippin' trite. Don't get me wrong: I'd definitely be down for an OVA showing their lives after their reincarnation (preferably involving the two recovering their memories of their past lives.) I'm just saying it's clear what ending was supposed to be portrayed by the last scene. Any deviation from that ending would either A) be baseless, meaningless speculation that runs counter to everything that came before, or B) require some kind of sequel to kick it off. In this way, the ending is much like that of Steins;Gate. Edit: Of course, you're free to disagree with me, but if you choose to do so, answer me this: If you don't think it was clearly a "happy ending," what alternative ending have you been given any strong reason to suspect? |
NoviSunNov 1, 2018 12:10 PM
| I would of felt better if some things would of changed, but its over now and im not gonna watch it ever again. |
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| Was good in the beginning, should have ended the series at episode 16 where they just all live happily ever after in their life dome or whatever or at episode 21 where they chase VIRM off planet earth and all start a new life on earth and let the future generation deal with VIRM. Whatever, I'll still watch episode 13 every once in awhile for my demon Loli fix |
| Just finished it. Was the space thing dumb? Completely. I'd much prefer a generic all-out battle on Earth than this, but I'll forgive it since it only lasted 2 episodes (a flaw in itself), and that what we saw happening on Earth was really good. Yeah, reincarnation was kind of a lazy ending, but it's much better than having them show up exactly how it was. Overall, I really like it. The last 2 episodes were lukewarm, but considering everything before it was really good, I can forgive it mostly. Masterpiece? No. Miles better than your average seasonal? Yes. |
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| Truly "impressive", on different levels. I said last episode (23) felt like it moved extremely fast. Well this episode packed in 10 years excluding the last couple minutes which passed how many decades/generations. So many (basically all) characters I didn't care for, as they felt less like characters and more like gears to turn plot points. So many things unexplained - just "this happens, then that happens!" without making any sense (or even trying to). These weren't trivial things either, they were crucial to the story. It felt like this anime combined 5+ previous anime series.. No, not combined, but (s)mashed. The good news is I figured it'd be mediocre from the beginning and only chose to watch it for all its memes popularity. Despite being 24 episodes I remained entertained (again, truly "impressive") throughout. There were actually one or two moments that I felt were unique and memorable to this series, which is more than I expected. |
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| i liked the anime overall, really wasn't a fan of the space thing. didn't find it necessary and after episode 19 i was kind of confused most of the way through. this anime isn't a masterpiece in my eyes, but it's entertaining. 6/10 |
| No bitter ending at all. Happy ending! |
| It wasn't flaming garbage. Nor was it a masterpiece. Z2 does stand out a lot even though it was somewhat confusing why she would be calling Hiro darling at first when she doesn't call any one of her other partners 'darling'. If it was established that she only call the one that she loved darling, the boy in the snow, why did she do so if she didn't know at first Hiro was the same boy she met 10 years ago, call him darling? There was also an instance when she looked visibly disturbed when Hiro didn't kiss her, and she laments being a monster in his eyes, so she doesn't know or does she? Also, why was there an old man piloting the FranXX with her back in Episode One? Adding to the ending which I thought fit the already confusing nature of the anime. I guess that's just the type of story Japan likes to write. |
| Quite disappointed with the ending ._. |
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| YOU get pregnart! YOU get pregante! EVERYBODY getting pregananant! |
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| If MAL hadn't been down when this aired, I think this ep would've hit a record for forum responses. Episode 14 has 1400... IDk, it's something I just came up with. |
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| https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2019-01-14/kentaro-yabuki-says-darling-in-the-franxx-manga-will-have-major-divergences-from-the-anime/.141952 To Love-Ru and DARLING in the FRANXX manga artist Kentaro Yabuki posted a special message on December 30 on the Shonen Jump+ website, where the DARLING in the FRANXX manga is currently being serialized. He thanked readers for their support for the past year of the manga's serialization, and said that starting from the next issue (chapter 37), the story will begin to have major divergences from the anime. DARLING in the FRANXX is an original science-fiction television anime by Studio Trigger and A-1 Pictures. It began broadcast in January last year alongside Yabuki's manga adaptation, and concluded its run in July. The manga is still ongoing. Chapter 37 was published on Shonen Jump+ on Sunday, and will be free to read for a limited time. Yabuki said that so far he has been incorporating gradual changes in the manga version, but that the latest chapter represents a turning point. He describes the direction of the story as "the ultimate what-if route," and said that presenting an alternate story is the reason why the manga version has continued past the conclusion of the anime.  |
Reigokyuu said: Boring, the final part is predictable and a bit like the old mecha anime Which is why the manga what-if route is exciting. |
| i put off watching this for the longest time and honestly, when i started it i was not into it at all and seriously considered dropping it around episode nine. while the whole “virm is the real enemy” thing that popped out at the very last minute has me confused, i really enjoyed the relationship-centered parts of this, and although it seems the ending has a lot of people mixed, the whole episode had me in tears. i thought it was very beautiful and bittersweet, and i’m glad that zero two got to reunite with her darling in the end 8/10 |
| Yeah I had similar feelings. Show was alright, better than the MAL Nobility made out. I didn't bump into as much issues as they made out... and it kept me from watching for so long. My only gripe was not getting a satisfying release for Zero Two and Hiro. Always busts my OCD the reencarnation; their squadmates will just believe they have died and the new characters aren't... them. The real people we saw on the show are deep space dust now. However I wonder how the girl has pink hair, it doesn't seem natural in this world. A better ending IMO, would have the original cast teaching the future generations about Hiro and 02 by reading the story book we see so much throughout the show to their children ending with the two fighting still for the future of humanity somewhere out there in space using their love bond to plod on.. wings and all as the fight isnt yet over (or so the show implies). They gave their all for humanity and earth hope some day they will be reunited.. leaves it a bittersweet open ending for the viewer. |
DrPopkorneFeb 2, 2019 6:42 AM
| I gave it a good 8/10 in the end, that's a pretty powerful end even if it's slightly WTF. There are emotions and our characters grew up and built a better world, it's sad for Zero Two and Hiro but they were at peace so it's fine. That's great because because the show bored me a lot in the first 8 episodes, so much that I stopped watching it back then before coming back to it this week. |
| I think this show gets more hate than it deserves, but that tends to happen when people bandwagon things and think in a group mentality. That said though, I give it a 7/10. First half was alright, ranged between 5 - 7/10, but was interesting enough to keep going. Second half I liked a lot more, 7 - 9/10. If I really like the ending run of a show I tend to score a bit higher but this show had so many things ripped off that I think a basic 7 is a fair final score. |
| Was good till episode 17, i just punch my wall and made a hole cause of the final, first half 9/10 then 1/10 so ~5/10 overall |
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| This reminded me of Qualidea code, especially around episode 19-21 the real antagonist was showed and it was amazing. This anime made me so emotional, I really had hard timing to finish it because I don't want it to end. It's the best. |
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| Now that I finished it after seeing so many rants about this anime, I can definitely say its not as bad as people made it out to be. The theme of the anime is simple, yet bittersweet and I think they managed to convey it decently throughout the anime with the characters and their relationships. Ending wise, I liked it. It wasn't the greatest, but I think it concluded the series well enough. I give it an 8/10. Def enjoyed it. |
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