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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- Poor Sabo :< |
| The tears.....they won't stop gushing out..... Anyways, another superb chapter. The dramatics aside, I found Garp's speech about Roger and Ace's similarities to his father to be enlightening. |
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| wow that was teh best chapter of this arc.. awesome ending.. tho i expected teh death to be kinda different.. anyways awesome as always.. |
Avarice said: The tears.....they won't stop gushing out..... Anyways, another superb chapter. The dramatics aside, I found Garp's speech about Roger and Ace's similarities to his father to be enlightening. I thought it was more about Luffy, when I read it. Selfish, Ill tempered etc :P That's Luffy =D Also, you guys reckon there's still a chance Sabo might be alive? Wouldn't surprise me if *somehow* Dragon saves him |
Jesuvius said: I thought it was more about Luffy, when I read it. Selfish, Ill tempered etc :P That's Luffy =D Also, you guys reckon there's still a chance Sabo might be alive? Wouldn't surprise me if *somehow* Dragon saves him Oh, don't me wrong, I wasn't in any way discounting Luffy's role in the chapter, I was just much more surprised (and pleased) at how Garp defined how he perceived Roger and how Ace is similar to him. That aspect just struck more of a cord with me. Hard to tell if Sabo's still alive since he hasn't (so far) displayed anything remotely resembling superhuman qualities, like Luffy and Ace. Then again, if Sabo survived that blast without any outside help, that might change how I feel about the development. From Luffy's point-of-view, he believes he's dead - and that justifies his grief. But we saw it from the reader's POV, there better be a coherent explanation of how he survived that, otherwise it would just be a contrived way of manipulating the reader's emotions. |
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| I kinda expected sabo to died since the beginning of this arc since he was nvr mentioned before. Though, they nvr showed his dead body, so it is possible that he's still alive. And now that I think about its probably quite likely that he's still alive since in most shonen mangas if they dont show the body they are probably still alive. |
| FFFFFFFFFFFF Break next week ;_;. |
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| eh, I figured. I refuse to believe he's dead until a body is found tho. |
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Jesuvius said: Avarice said: The tears.....they won't stop gushing out..... Anyways, another superb chapter. The dramatics aside, I found Garp's speech about Roger and Ace's similarities to his father to be enlightening. I thought it was more about Luffy, when I read it. Selfish, Ill tempered etc :P That's Luffy =D Also, you guys reckon there's still a chance Sabo might be alive? Wouldn't surprise me if *somehow* Dragon saves him I was thinking the same thing because he was with dragon not long ago |
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| HE'S DEAD his flag, hat burned, which represent that his dreams to become a pirate are gone forever.. its sad but true.. |
smokes said: HE'S DEAD his flag, hat burned, which represent that his dreams to become a pirate are gone forever.. its sad but true.. So maybe he won't be a pirate but a revolutionary? |
| ^dunno, Dragon would've taken him back then.. |
I'd like to believe (beyond evidence & reason) that Sabo's still alive and that Luffy could meet him again. Unbelievable, the Tenryuubito(sp?) never fail to meet my expectations. It took no time for that guy to turn into a complete asshole and blow away the ship. >:-( |
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hJ said: Also, maybe Sabo was taken in by Dragon. Maybe he's some hotshot in the Revolutionary army now. In fact, this might be him. Long long shot though. Curly, light colored hair, pointed nose (shaped a bit different but that could be attributed to age), a hat. You never know. Oda might be foreshadowing again. http://static.bleachexile.com/manga/one-piece/546/01.png lol dude that would be fucking brilliant.. but as i said, his flag was burned.. that means his dreams also... |
Avarice said: Hard to tell if Sabo's still alive since he hasn't (so far) displayed anything remotely resembling superhuman qualities, like Luffy and Ace. Then again, if Sabo survived that blast without any outside help, that might change how I feel about the development. From Luffy's point-of-view, he believes he's dead - and that justifies his grief. But we saw it from the reader's POV, there better be a coherent explanation of how he survived that, otherwise it would just be a contrived way of manipulating the reader's emotions. I think most of us agree that there is a possibility of Sabo being alive, but I can't say it would be a cheap trick by Oda. I see this chapter mostly as a way to show us how strong was the bond, not only between Luffy and Ace, but between the 3 brothers. About the lack of shown superhuman abilities by Sabo, there's a scene in which Luffy, Ace and Sabo do some battles, and the score showed Ace with 50 wins, Sabo with 49 and Luffy with 0 (or something like that), so it seems Sabo is as strong as Ace. |
hJ said: Also, maybe Sabo was taken in by Dragon. Maybe he's some hotshot in the Revolutionary army now. In fact, this might be him. Long long shot though. Curly, light colored hair, pointed nose (shaped a bit different but that could be attributed to age), a hat. You never know. Oda might be foreshadowing again. http://static.bleachexile.com/manga/one-piece/546/01.png Who the hell is the Giraffe? Couldn't be the CP9 dude :o And I think he might still be alive. Also think this is the end of the flashback arc. With the "no chapter next week" |
| If the other guy...in Arabasta, damn I can't remember his name...survived there is a big possibility that Sabo is alive still. Also, if I remember correctly, he and Ace were infamous in the area, so he must be strong too. |
| Wow, totally called it. But it makes me wonder why Luffy wasn't as pissed as he probably should have been when he learned of the dragons. Almost like this back story was an after thought, or Luffy was never told exactly who killed Sabo. |
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| Loved it. I think at the time Luffy was a bit too young to fully understand it all. And still he's not the type to hate every single one of a group just because a select few pissed him off. He was pretty calm about the dragons untill Hachi was shot. http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/497/16/ Also this shows Luffy knew about the dragons. Oh and look at that symbol on Sabo's letter, then on the tatoo on Ace's arm ;) |
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| Both of his supposed brothers are dead? Dayum. |
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| Ah ... Finally a good chapter. Like the Garp/Roger part ... For the death, if i don't saw the corpse, i will not thing about that. :) |
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| this is definitely the end of the flashback arc now i'd say. id say theres a 75% chance of sabo being alive still probably a reveloutionary . i loved the roger comparison to ace too. hopefully in 2 weeks itll be the start of the straw hat reunion arc |
| End of flashback sooooooon |
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| So this concludes the flashback arc. This was a really good chapter. I'm expecting Sabo to be alive somewhere since it doesn't really look like he will die just like that. It's kinda sad that there's no chapter next week, though I expect that the week after that will begin the reunion of the Straw Hats. |
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Avarice said: Anyways, another superb chapter. The dramatics aside, I found Garp's speech about Roger and Ace's similarities to his father to be enlightening. Same here. Oda's writing and the way he is able to put things into words is just amazing. And I am a little skeptical over Sabo being "supposedly" dead. We usually see dead bodies when someone dies, or are given a proper goodbye, his ship was just attacked. If Sabo knows how to swim, I can imagine him swimming to safety. And I hate how there is a break next week. Will Dragon attack the Tenryuubito? Etc. etc. |
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| SABO!!!! T.T I sure hope he didn't really die |
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| I can't believe Sabo is truly dead, maybe he survived?! Taken in by Dragon, maybe. I really want to see him in the future. Want him to surprise Luffy somehow. >3< |
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| So that's what happened to him =O wonder if the arc is over or whether they show us how Ace got his power now ... |
| Dead or alive. This chapter was awesome. |
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| Well done.. Now I want to see us moving to the reunion arc lol Sayonara (if only for now) Sabo |
mulderman said: Loved it. I think at the time Luffy was a bit too young to fully understand it all. And still he's not the type to hate every single one of a group just because a select few pissed him off. He was pretty calm about the dragons untill Hachi was shot. http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/497/16/ Also this shows Luffy knew about the dragons. Oh and look at that symbol on Sabo's letter, then on the tatoo on Ace's arm ;) Good find, that he already knew them! This gets rid of the "Oda just pasted Sabo in there" |
| This chapter was really emotional and it got me to tears in the end (even if Sabo is secretly still alive...). |
| I love how everyone's saying the flashback arc is over. Honestly I think one more chapter. Ace going off to become a pirate and all, tying this part of Luffy's past with the flashbacks we got at the beginning of the manga, when he started living in Windmill Village again, and when he met Shanks. If they tie that together, I will worship Oda forever. |
| Hope Sabo is alright. |
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JoshOfRJNN said: I love how everyone's saying the flashback arc is over. Honestly I think one more chapter. Ace going off to become a pirate and all, tying this part of Luffy's past with the flashbacks we got at the beginning of the manga, when he started living in Windmill Village again, and when he met Shanks. If they tie that together, I will worship Oda forever. Wait, didn't that already happen? Yeah, check out this picture. First of the flashback arc: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/582/16/ |
| Another great chapter that displays Oda's ability to pull up with the backstories. Genius. I'm pretty sure Sabo is dead. I've never seen a single backstory from Oda that was happy end. |
| Nyuu~~ hiatus.. T_T Anyway, Sabo's dead [though i still hope he somehow got away] and i hope this arc ended, or is at least close to an end. Liked the parallel between Ace and Roger. Also, if Luffy finds out the Tenryuubito killed Sabo, there's gonna be some mega-rampage next time he meets them xD |
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| ------------------------------ -- -- ok episode..... ....... hmmm... i guess sabo didn't die.... i guess sabo is alliance of... dragon.. |
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| Amazing chapter and arc overall. Poor Sabo, I know all evidence point to his death, but there is no 100% certainity. I believe Luffy will find him in the present. |
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Jesuvius said: I love how everyone's saying the flashback arc is over. Honestly I think one more chapter. Ace going off to become a pirate and all, tying this part of Luffy's past with the flashbacks we got at the beginning of the manga, when he started living in Windmill Village again, and when he met Shanks. If they tie that together, I will worship Oda forever. That happened already, Luffy ate the fruit in the windmill village, Shanks left and gave him the straw hat, gramps took Luffy and brought him to Ace and the others. |
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| Quite emotional at the end there. D: |
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zefster said: Saboooooo ;A; Actually I wouldn't put it past Oda for Sabo to still be alive. I'm just going to hope that he'll show up in the next arc... Oda can make the unexpected happen to make a fantastic story, characters who no one would ever think of dieing die... and others live, it wouldn't surprise me if we see Sabo as an adult, with his own crew in the the new world. |
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| Unfortunately, I think everyone saw this coming :( |
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