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Jan 24, 2:18 PM
#1
It seems that everyone tends to consider billionaires as the ultimate villains of our time. But they can be great people too! Take Jim Simons, genius mathematician, finance guru, and philanthropist. He was one of the first to use quantitative methods in finance and after an impressive career in mathematical research (he came back to it later in his life), he became a legend amongst hedge funds managers. His foundation (the Simons Foundation) that he created with his wife has had a very positive impact on the funding of research in basic science, and we can be hopeful that his legacy will live on. If you want to learn more about him, I would highly recommend this interview of him. Another name that comes to mind is Warren Buffett, but I will not bore everyone with more explanations. You can find the list of current billionaires at the following link, but feel free to mention people who have left the list too. Important note. Please do not turn this thread into a political debate, no one cares about the opinion on vigilantism of adults who still watch cartoons. |
Jan 24, 2:22 PM
#2
I guess I'll go with this person, since there is the no political rule. |
Kimochi Warui |
Jan 24, 2:31 PM
#3
Jan 24, 2:31 PM
#4
Billionaire? Pfft... that's rookie numbers. I want to be a trillionaire, like the average citizen of Zimbabwe! |
Jan 24, 2:37 PM
#5
Jan 24, 2:49 PM
#6
Definitely Batman, he's a billionaire and a vigilante (oopsie, I said the forbidden word). |
Jan 24, 2:51 PM
#7
Christian Gray, Tony Stark, and George Soros. |
Jan 24, 3:51 PM
#8
Bruce Wayne. Tula The guy from one piece gold. |
Jan 24, 4:02 PM
#9
In anime, it is Aeolia Schenberg. He got rich with solar inventions, turned slightly illuminati, built a secret organization. Secret organization builds gundams, clones and has a pc that is able to calculate forward in time what is going to happen in the whole earth. In real life, it is Gabe Newell, because half life, but Steam is a service that just feels nice. And as a user I don`t ever feel exploited using it. |
Jan 24, 4:07 PM
#10
Becoming a billionaire is not really that inspiring to me, and never really interest me of what billionaires do, and how do they become one. Most of them are dirty bastards anyway. They are just another person, nothing special. As in my country, the majority of rich people are corruptors. The recent case in my country, corruption billions of USD causing about USD 18.500.000.000 natural disaster, only get sentence to prison for 6 years, while a poor old lady steal a few woods got sentenced into 1 year prison. Let's not forget to mention the prison for corruptors are VIP with AC, TV, wifi, and probably.other special treatments (pool table and bar maybe?), and perhaps reduce in sentence time in the middle if good behaving. That corruptor btw bought a private jet for his son birthday. Justice is very dead here. Literally the law is pissed by the rich. It always amaze me how dirty the law can be bent to profit the haves. Anyway, what actually always interest and inspire me is to see great classical pianists such as Yundi Li, Kissin, Seong-Jin Cho, and Dmitry Shishkin (my new favorite pianist: his Chopin etude op.10 no 2 is simply out of this world) |
philtecturophyJan 24, 4:11 PM
Jan 24, 4:12 PM
#11
Jan 24, 4:28 PM
#12
Reply to philtecturophy
Becoming a billionaire is not really that inspiring to me, and never really interest me of what billionaires do, and how do they become one. Most of them are dirty bastards anyway. They are just another person, nothing special. As in my country, the majority of rich people are corruptors. The recent case in my country, corruption billions of USD causing about USD 18.500.000.000 natural disaster, only get sentence to prison for 6 years, while a poor old lady steal a few woods got sentenced into 1 year prison. Let's not forget to mention the prison for corruptors are VIP with AC, TV, wifi, and probably.other special treatments (pool table and bar maybe?), and perhaps reduce in sentence time in the middle if good behaving. That corruptor btw bought a private jet for his son birthday. Justice is very dead here. Literally the law is pissed by the rich. It always amaze me how dirty the law can be bent to profit the haves.
Anyway, what actually always interest and inspire me is to see great classical pianists such as Yundi Li, Kissin, Seong-Jin Cho, and Dmitry Shishkin (my new favorite pianist: his Chopin etude op.10 no 2 is simply out of this world)
Anyway, what actually always interest and inspire me is to see great classical pianists such as Yundi Li, Kissin, Seong-Jin Cho, and Dmitry Shishkin (my new favorite pianist: his Chopin etude op.10 no 2 is simply out of this world)
philtecturophy said: Oh no! You didn't listen to OP and made it political! (but you've yet to say they should be killed so I guess it's still fine?)Becoming a billionaire is not really that inspiring to me, and never really interest me of what billionaires do, and how do they become one. Most of them are dirty bastards anyway. They are just another person, nothing special. As in my country, the majority of rich people are corruptors. The recent case in my country, corruption billions of USD causing about USD 18.500.000.000 natural disaster, only get sentence to prison for 6 years, while a poor old lady steal a few woods got sentenced into 1 year prison. Let's not forget to mention the prison for corruptors are VIP with AC, TV, wifi, and probably.other special treatments (pool table and bar maybe?), and perhaps reduce in sentence time in the middle if good behaving. That corruptor btw bought a private jet for his son birthday. Justice is very dead here. Literally the law is pissed by the rich. It always amaze me how dirty the law can be bent to profit the haves. |
Jan 24, 4:52 PM
#13
Can't think of any at the moment. Many so called philanthropists just do it as a form of money laundering, tax evasion and PR stunts or even if they have good intents the money is not efficiently used in the most needed places unfortunately. rohan121 said: Shinzo Abe is my fav billionaire. -Pro free speech and expression -Not a sellout to blackrock or vanguard -Anti immigration I would have said Satoru Iwata but he is not a billionaire. Abe's net worth was about 10 million dollars. You would have to use a yen value to get billions. He pressured media into self censorship https://archive.is/dmrxC He tried to request a US publisher to rewrite history https://theconversation.com/shinzo-abe-the-disputed-legacy-of-a-politician-who-dominated-public-life-in-japan-after-wwii-186757 I don't know about Vangaurd but he did do deals with Blackrock https://www.ft.com/content/8ecfcfc4-3cee-11e5-8613-07d16aad2152 https://www.wsj.com/articles/japan-calls-upon-blackrock-in-bid-to-encourage-corporate-investment-1444867073 He changed his immigration policy later on out of necessity https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/10/18/national/social-issues/japan-first-led-protesters-slam-abe-plan-allow-foreign-workers/ |
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Jan 24, 5:11 PM
#14
Reply to traed
Can't think of any at the moment. Many so called philanthropists just do it as a form of money laundering, tax evasion and PR stunts or even if they have good intents the money is not efficiently used in the most needed places unfortunately.
Abe's net worth was about 10 million dollars. You would have to use a yen value to get billions.
He pressured media into self censorship
https://archive.is/dmrxC
He tried to request a US publisher to rewrite history
https://theconversation.com/shinzo-abe-the-disputed-legacy-of-a-politician-who-dominated-public-life-in-japan-after-wwii-186757
I don't know about Vangaurd but he did do deals with Blackrock
https://www.ft.com/content/8ecfcfc4-3cee-11e5-8613-07d16aad2152
https://www.wsj.com/articles/japan-calls-upon-blackrock-in-bid-to-encourage-corporate-investment-1444867073
He changed his immigration policy later on out of necessity
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/10/18/national/social-issues/japan-first-led-protesters-slam-abe-plan-allow-foreign-workers/
rohan121 said:
Shinzo Abe is my fav billionaire.
-Pro free speech and expression
-Not a sellout to blackrock or vanguard
-Anti immigration
I would have said Satoru Iwata but he is not a billionaire.
Shinzo Abe is my fav billionaire.
-Pro free speech and expression
-Not a sellout to blackrock or vanguard
-Anti immigration
I would have said Satoru Iwata but he is not a billionaire.
Abe's net worth was about 10 million dollars. You would have to use a yen value to get billions.
He pressured media into self censorship
https://archive.is/dmrxC
He tried to request a US publisher to rewrite history
https://theconversation.com/shinzo-abe-the-disputed-legacy-of-a-politician-who-dominated-public-life-in-japan-after-wwii-186757
I don't know about Vangaurd but he did do deals with Blackrock
https://www.ft.com/content/8ecfcfc4-3cee-11e5-8613-07d16aad2152
https://www.wsj.com/articles/japan-calls-upon-blackrock-in-bid-to-encourage-corporate-investment-1444867073
He changed his immigration policy later on out of necessity
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/10/18/national/social-issues/japan-first-led-protesters-slam-abe-plan-allow-foreign-workers/
@traed I guess no good billionaires exist Not too surprised. |
Jan 24, 5:43 PM
#15
Me (Im a billionaire in formation) and the Joestar family. And IRL... mmmm I dont look up at anyone to call any my "favorite" (it is kind of a strong word) but if there was a ring and I had to pick my favorites I would say Gabe Newel because even if he controls like 80% (probably more) of the PC gaming market, he always managed to put the players firsts, which is probably not an easy task considering many stake holders would want a more restrictive Steam if they can squish more money out of us. I can of fear what will happen with gaming when he steps down, which kind make me dont like his push of "always Online digital license" world that Steam impose on PC. An Musk, yeah I wrote it but let me elaborate: I can respect and even admire his crazy will of no stopping when people where trashing him when he bought Tesla (that wasnt a good company by any means, they had like 1 car) or SpaceX. This translated into the revival of the space race and the concept of the electric car thanks to him releasing the patents of technological advancement made by Testa (tho, i must admit I do not share this vision with him: personally i think Hydrogen powered cars are a better alternative) so yeah, "favorite" is kind of a strong word, I may like/admire them, but I dont share many of their visions of the future. |
Jan 24, 5:51 PM
#17
Elon Musk because he's gonna take the US to Mars, and from there we will conquer the galaxy with our Tesla droid army. |
Jan 24, 6:12 PM
#18
The Illusive Man from Mass Effect. President-elect Donald Trump said on Sunday he would nominate billionaire investor Stephen Feinberg to serve as deputy secretary of defense. Feinberg is the co-chief executive of Cerberus Capital Management LP, |
Jan 24, 7:59 PM
#19
Nichiko Niwano, the head of the Buddhist organization by the name, Risshō Kōsei Kai. He's not a billionaire per se, but more like a custodian of the wealth that forms this reputable organization that works internationally in the field of charity works in Asia. |
Jan 24, 9:58 PM
#20
Trillion Game is the best anime of Fall 2024 by the way. fleurbleue said: Definitely Batman, he's a billionaire and a vigilante (oopsie, I said the forbidden word). I liked so much Batman as a kid that I even had a movie poster of The Dark Knight in my bedroom (Teminator and Underworld were the two other movie posters). But when I grew up, I realised that he should have instead used his wealth to fix social inequality. Sorry to be more left-wing (God forbid) than a Québecois... 149597871 said: Christian Gray, Tony Stark, and George Soros. I hope that the third is a joke. LoveYourSmile said: Charlie Munger, for many reasons really. I could watch him eating cookies all day. Is it a good One Piece movie? philtecturophy said: Becoming a billionaire is not really that inspiring to me, and never really interest me of what billionaires do, and how do they become one. Most of them are dirty bastards anyway. They are just another person, nothing special. As in my country, the majority of rich people are corruptors. The recent case in my country, corruption billions of USD causing about USD 18.500.000.000 natural disaster, only get sentence to prison for 6 years, while a poor old lady steal a few woods got sentenced into 1 year prison. Let's not forget to mention the prison for corruptors are VIP with AC, TV, wifi, and probably.other special treatments (pool table and bar maybe?), and perhaps reduce in sentence time in the middle if good behaving. That corruptor btw bought a private jet for his son birthday. Justice is very dead here. Literally the law is pissed by the rich. It always amaze me how dirty the law can be bent to profit the haves. Anyway, what actually always interest and inspire me is to see great classical pianists such as Yundi Li, Kissin, Seong-Jin Cho, and Dmitry Shishkin (my new favorite pianist: his Chopin etude op.10 no 2 is simply out of this world) I agree with you. What do you think of Maurizio Pollini? He is my favourite pianist for Chopin's Études. The software that he created is helpful, but the coding language is quite awful and there are better (free) alternatives. His general philosophy is quite despicable to be honest too. And physiognomy should tell you immediately which software is the best. fleurbleue said: philtecturophy said: Becoming a billionaire is not really that inspiring to me, and never really interest me of what billionaires do, and how do they become one. Most of them are dirty bastards anyway. They are just another person, nothing special. As in my country, the majority of rich people are corruptors. The recent case in my country, corruption billions of USD causing about USD 18.500.000.000 natural disaster, only get sentence to prison for 6 years, while a poor old lady steal a few woods got sentenced into 1 year prison. Let's not forget to mention the prison for corruptors are VIP with AC, TV, wifi, and probably.other special treatments (pool table and bar maybe?), and perhaps reduce in sentence time in the middle if good behaving. That corruptor btw bought a private jet for his son birthday. Justice is very dead here. Literally the law is pissed by the rich. It always amaze me how dirty the law can be bent to profit the haves. Oh no! You didn't listen to OP and made it political! (but you've yet to say they should be killed so I guess it's still fine?) If my thread gets closed, I will blame you (I did not ruin your distasteful thread on "curiosity killing," so please don't try to ruin mine...). No one should be killed, not even the war veterans or the people who suffer from depression (controversial viewpoint in Babylon-like Canada). You don't fix an unjust system by treating its effects instead of its causes. traed said: Can't think of any at the moment. Many so called philanthropists just do it as a form of money laundering, tax evasion and PR stunts or even if they have good intents the money is not efficiently used in the most needed places unfortunately. You are right, but your googlefu is surely getting tiring. jennicide said: Elon Musk because he's gonna take the US to Mars, and from there we will conquer the galaxy with our Tesla droid army. As much as I dislike him as a person, if he succeeds in the Mars mission, no one will remember about the bad political takes and silly memes. Will you let him have a chip in your brain by the way? Soverign said: The Illusive Man from Mass Effect. President-elect Donald Trump said on Sunday he would nominate billionaire investor Stephen Feinberg to serve as deputy secretary of defense. Feinberg is the co-chief executive of Cerberus Capital Management LP, Best reply of the thread so far. We need to start many a Lazarus Project to revive all the great scientists of the past (starting with Archimedes, Euclid, Descartes, and Newton). It is crazy to think that people like @fleurbleue want to reenact this scene with the Illusive Man... (It was hard to find a version with MaleShep, I guess that most gamers today choose a female character to watch her bottom while they play... But FemShep's VA is quite annoying while MaleShep's VA is amazing.) MalchikRepaid said: Nichiko Niwano, the head of the Buddhist organization by the name, Risshō Kōsei Kai. He's not a billionaire per se, but more like a custodian of the wealth that forms this reputable organization that works internationally in the field of charity works in Asia. I had never heard about him, thanks for mentioning this (obscure) figure, I will look him up in more detail later! |
Jan 24, 10:55 PM
#21
Zhang Yong, absolutely legendary dude, amazing twitter posts and a comedic genius. |
Jan 24, 10:58 PM
#22
Reply to Meusnier
Trillion Game is the best anime of Fall 2024 by the way.
I liked so much Batman as a kid that I even had a movie poster of The Dark Knight in my bedroom (Teminator and Underworld were the two other movie posters). But when I grew up, I realised that he should have instead used his wealth to fix social inequality. Sorry to be more left-wing (God forbid) than a Québecois...
I hope that the third is a joke.
I could watch him eating cookies all day.
Is it a good One Piece movie?
I agree with you. What do you think of Maurizio Pollini? He is my favourite pianist for Chopin's Études.
The software that he created is helpful, but the coding language is quite awful and there are better (free) alternatives. His general philosophy is quite despicable to be honest too. And physiognomy should tell you immediately which software is the best.


If my thread gets closed, I will blame you (I did not ruin your distasteful thread on "curiosity killing," so please don't try to ruin mine...). No one should be killed, not even the war veterans or the people who suffer from depression (controversial viewpoint in Babylon-like Canada). You don't fix an unjust system by treating its effects instead of its causes.
You are right, but your googlefu is surely getting tiring.
As much as I dislike him as a person, if he succeeds in the Mars mission, no one will remember about the bad political takes and silly memes. Will you let him have a chip in your brain by the way?
Best reply of the thread so far. We need to start many a Lazarus Project to revive all the great scientists of the past (starting with Archimedes, Euclid, Descartes, and Newton). It is crazy to think that people like @fleurbleue want to reenact this scene with the Illusive Man...
(It was hard to find a version with MaleShep, I guess that most gamers today choose a female character to watch her bottom while they play... But FemShep's VA is quite annoying while MaleShep's VA is amazing.)
I had never heard about him, thanks for mentioning this (obscure) figure, I will look him up in more detail later!
fleurbleue said:
Definitely Batman, he's a billionaire and a vigilante (oopsie, I said the forbidden word).
Definitely Batman, he's a billionaire and a vigilante (oopsie, I said the forbidden word).
I liked so much Batman as a kid that I even had a movie poster of The Dark Knight in my bedroom (Teminator and Underworld were the two other movie posters). But when I grew up, I realised that he should have instead used his wealth to fix social inequality. Sorry to be more left-wing (God forbid) than a Québecois...
149597871 said:
Christian Gray, Tony Stark, and George Soros.
Christian Gray, Tony Stark, and George Soros.
I hope that the third is a joke.
LoveYourSmile said:
Charlie Munger, for many reasons really.
Charlie Munger, for many reasons really.
I could watch him eating cookies all day.
Is it a good One Piece movie?
philtecturophy said:
Becoming a billionaire is not really that inspiring to me, and never really interest me of what billionaires do, and how do they become one. Most of them are dirty bastards anyway. They are just another person, nothing special. As in my country, the majority of rich people are corruptors. The recent case in my country, corruption billions of USD causing about USD 18.500.000.000 natural disaster, only get sentence to prison for 6 years, while a poor old lady steal a few woods got sentenced into 1 year prison. Let's not forget to mention the prison for corruptors are VIP with AC, TV, wifi, and probably.other special treatments (pool table and bar maybe?), and perhaps reduce in sentence time in the middle if good behaving. That corruptor btw bought a private jet for his son birthday. Justice is very dead here. Literally the law is pissed by the rich. It always amaze me how dirty the law can be bent to profit the haves.
Anyway, what actually always interest and inspire me is to see great classical pianists such as Yundi Li, Kissin, Seong-Jin Cho, and Dmitry Shishkin (my new favorite pianist: his Chopin etude op.10 no 2 is simply out of this world)
Becoming a billionaire is not really that inspiring to me, and never really interest me of what billionaires do, and how do they become one. Most of them are dirty bastards anyway. They are just another person, nothing special. As in my country, the majority of rich people are corruptors. The recent case in my country, corruption billions of USD causing about USD 18.500.000.000 natural disaster, only get sentence to prison for 6 years, while a poor old lady steal a few woods got sentenced into 1 year prison. Let's not forget to mention the prison for corruptors are VIP with AC, TV, wifi, and probably.other special treatments (pool table and bar maybe?), and perhaps reduce in sentence time in the middle if good behaving. That corruptor btw bought a private jet for his son birthday. Justice is very dead here. Literally the law is pissed by the rich. It always amaze me how dirty the law can be bent to profit the haves.
Anyway, what actually always interest and inspire me is to see great classical pianists such as Yundi Li, Kissin, Seong-Jin Cho, and Dmitry Shishkin (my new favorite pianist: his Chopin etude op.10 no 2 is simply out of this world)
I agree with you. What do you think of Maurizio Pollini? He is my favourite pianist for Chopin's Études.
The software that he created is helpful, but the coding language is quite awful and there are better (free) alternatives. His general philosophy is quite despicable to be honest too. And physiognomy should tell you immediately which software is the best.
fleurbleue said:
Oh no! You didn't listen to OP and made it political! (but you've yet to say they should be killed so I guess it's still fine?)
philtecturophy said:
Becoming a billionaire is not really that inspiring to me, and never really interest me of what billionaires do, and how do they become one. Most of them are dirty bastards anyway. They are just another person, nothing special. As in my country, the majority of rich people are corruptors. The recent case in my country, corruption billions of USD causing about USD 18.500.000.000 natural disaster, only get sentence to prison for 6 years, while a poor old lady steal a few woods got sentenced into 1 year prison. Let's not forget to mention the prison for corruptors are VIP with AC, TV, wifi, and probably.other special treatments (pool table and bar maybe?), and perhaps reduce in sentence time in the middle if good behaving. That corruptor btw bought a private jet for his son birthday. Justice is very dead here. Literally the law is pissed by the rich. It always amaze me how dirty the law can be bent to profit the haves.
Becoming a billionaire is not really that inspiring to me, and never really interest me of what billionaires do, and how do they become one. Most of them are dirty bastards anyway. They are just another person, nothing special. As in my country, the majority of rich people are corruptors. The recent case in my country, corruption billions of USD causing about USD 18.500.000.000 natural disaster, only get sentence to prison for 6 years, while a poor old lady steal a few woods got sentenced into 1 year prison. Let's not forget to mention the prison for corruptors are VIP with AC, TV, wifi, and probably.other special treatments (pool table and bar maybe?), and perhaps reduce in sentence time in the middle if good behaving. That corruptor btw bought a private jet for his son birthday. Justice is very dead here. Literally the law is pissed by the rich. It always amaze me how dirty the law can be bent to profit the haves.
Oh no! You didn't listen to OP and made it political! (but you've yet to say they should be killed so I guess it's still fine?)
If my thread gets closed, I will blame you (I did not ruin your distasteful thread on "curiosity killing," so please don't try to ruin mine...). No one should be killed, not even the war veterans or the people who suffer from depression (controversial viewpoint in Babylon-like Canada). You don't fix an unjust system by treating its effects instead of its causes.
traed said:
Can't think of any at the moment. Many so called philanthropists just do it as a form of money laundering, tax evasion and PR stunts or even if they have good intents the money is not efficiently used in the most needed places unfortunately.
Can't think of any at the moment. Many so called philanthropists just do it as a form of money laundering, tax evasion and PR stunts or even if they have good intents the money is not efficiently used in the most needed places unfortunately.
You are right, but your googlefu is surely getting tiring.
jennicide said:
Elon Musk because he's gonna take the US to Mars, and from there we will conquer the galaxy with our Tesla droid army.
Elon Musk because he's gonna take the US to Mars, and from there we will conquer the galaxy with our Tesla droid army.
As much as I dislike him as a person, if he succeeds in the Mars mission, no one will remember about the bad political takes and silly memes. Will you let him have a chip in your brain by the way?
Soverign said:
The Illusive Man from Mass Effect.
The Illusive Man from Mass Effect.
President-elect Donald Trump said on Sunday he would nominate billionaire investor Stephen Feinberg to serve as deputy secretary of defense.
Feinberg is the co-chief executive of Cerberus Capital Management LP,
Feinberg is the co-chief executive of Cerberus Capital Management LP,
Best reply of the thread so far. We need to start many a Lazarus Project to revive all the great scientists of the past (starting with Archimedes, Euclid, Descartes, and Newton). It is crazy to think that people like @fleurbleue want to reenact this scene with the Illusive Man...
(It was hard to find a version with MaleShep, I guess that most gamers today choose a female character to watch her bottom while they play... But FemShep's VA is quite annoying while MaleShep's VA is amazing.)
MalchikRepaid said:
Nichiko Niwano, the head of the Buddhist organization by the name, Risshō Kōsei Kai.
He's not a billionaire per se, but more like a custodian of the wealth that forms this reputable organization that works internationally in the field of charity works in Asia.
Nichiko Niwano, the head of the Buddhist organization by the name, Risshō Kōsei Kai.
He's not a billionaire per se, but more like a custodian of the wealth that forms this reputable organization that works internationally in the field of charity works in Asia.
I had never heard about him, thanks for mentioning this (obscure) figure, I will look him up in more detail later!
Meusnier said: Well, who said he doesn't?😉I realised that he should have instead used his wealth to fix social inequality. Meusnier said: Okay fine, I'll be good from now on. I just couldn't resist the urge.😁 Also, my thread wasn't about curiosity killing, it was mostly a choice I made to make sure my thread didn't become one big debate about which kind of murder would be the most acceptable or not... But I wouldn't have minded if you participated. Do you have that much of an aversion towards murder that every mention of it is distasteful?If my thread gets closed, I will blame you (I did not ruin your distasteful thread on "curiosity killing," so please don't try to ruin mine...) Meusnier said: If you're referring to medical assistance in dying, then people suffering from mental illness aren't illegible. It is eventually supposed to be the case but it is likely to be overturned after the next election as the Conservative party are likely to win. If you still disapprove of its use for terminally ill people and still go on that we should focus on the causes then feel free to present us the cure to cancer.😅No one should be killed, not even the war veterans or the people who suffer from depression (controversial viewpoint in Babylon-like Canada). You don't fix an unjust system by treating its effects instead of its causes. |
Jan 24, 11:03 PM
#23
Meusnier said: You are right, but your googlefu is surely getting tiring. Yes, I am pretty exhausted most days. |
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Jan 24, 11:21 PM
#24
@Meusnier I have never listened to Pollini playing Chopin etudes as far as I remember, I need to look for that. But certainly I really love his playing on Chopin Nocturnes, all of those he played it very beautifully. For Chopin etudes, so far I feel different Chopin's etude is played best by different pianist. Many agree that the most difficult Chopin's etude technically are op 25 no 6, op 10 no 2, and op 10 no 1, and each of them require different skill. For example, op.10 no 2 was played best by Shishkin IMO, but for op. 10 no 4, Bruce Liu (the former winner of Chopin's XVIII piano competition) played it the best |
Jan 25, 12:34 AM
#25
Jan 25, 12:36 AM
#26
None from real life. I guess Scrooge McDuck is my favorite. |
Jan 25, 12:41 AM
#27
I don't know any billionaires personally to pick my favourite, although according to info in 2020 Marcin Iwiński was among top 10 Polish billionaires I suppose he still is as rich but not among the top 10, he would be my choice than. |
Jan 25, 12:48 AM
#28
My favorite billionaire is Alex Jones, though it's probably 100 million over. |
Jan 25, 5:55 AM
#29
Who cares? It is not like the rich, "elites" will survive Near Term Human Extinction. |
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Jan 25, 6:25 AM
#30
Meusnier said: 149597871 said: Christian Gray, Tony Stark, and George Soros. I hope that the third is a joke. ChatGPT told me George Soros was a good guy and to not trust the conspiracies on the internet. She also told me you'd disapprove for some reason! |
Jan 25, 6:45 AM
#31
Jan 25, 6:46 AM
#32
“Cartoons” Anime is not cartoons! |
Jan 25, 7:00 AM
#33
Jan 25, 9:02 AM
#34
None, billionaires will always be billionaires and care only about their money. @Cybercat2000 Yes they are. We've been over this a bazillion times. Anime = Japanese animation = Japanese cartoon. |
Hot Blood saves lives. |
Jan 25, 9:35 AM
#35
Reply to TheMechaManiac
None, billionaires will always be billionaires and care only about their money.
@Cybercat2000
Yes they are. We've been over this a bazillion times. Anime = Japanese animation = Japanese cartoon.
@Cybercat2000
Yes they are. We've been over this a bazillion times. Anime = Japanese animation = Japanese cartoon.
@TheMechaManiac Cartoon = animation Not the other way around |
Jan 25, 12:21 PM
#36
Reply to Cybercat2000
@Cybercat2000 Wrong, animation = cartoon. Most people use "cartoon" as an abbreviation of "animated cartoon". |
Hot Blood saves lives. |
Jan 25, 12:28 PM
#37
Reply to TheMechaManiac
@Cybercat2000 Wrong, animation = cartoon. Most people use "cartoon" as an abbreviation of "animated cartoon".
@TheMechaManiac Nope. Look up the two words in a dictionary. Cartoons are a type of animation, animation itself isn’t cartoons. |
Jan 25, 12:47 PM
#38
Maybe Ted Turner. Him and his station kept World Championship Wrestling on the air even during it's worst period. WCW Nitro was one of the first wrestling shows I watched back in 2000, and I still remember it fondly. |
Jan 25, 1:54 PM
#39
Meusnier said: The software that he created is helpful, but the coding language is quite awful and there are better (free) alternatives. Maybe, but it seems like the only good one created by a billionaire. The WolframAlpha interpreter allows convenient syntax btw. |
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Jan 25, 1:59 PM
#40
Reply to DesuMaiden
Who cares? It is not like the rich, "elites" will survive Near Term Human Extinction.
@DesuMaiden The rich are the ones who live the longest if such conditions were to occur. |
Jan 25, 2:07 PM
#41
Jan 25, 3:11 PM
#42
@Cybercat2000 According to MAL, anime is just cartoons produced by Japan, South Korea, or China. 动画、アニメ、or dessins animés are all the same thing. It is like saying that Japanese film makers are doing something completely different than movies called 映画... Or people who insists that Chinese and Korean manga are not like manga (those people typically insist to call them manwha/manhua as if it mattered... How snobbish of them). The style may be different, but the underlying principle is the same. @MissHeed Thanks! I will be sure to watch it. 149597871 said: Meusnier said: 149597871 said: Christian Gray, Tony Stark, and George Soros. I hope that the third is a joke. ChatGPT told me George Soros was a good guy and to not trust the conspiracies on the internet. She also told me you'd disapprove for some reason! ChapGPT is not a girl! My intuition did not fool me and this guy supports turning Americans into drug addicts... Zarutaku said: Meusnier said: The software that he created is helpful, but the coding language is quite awful and there are better (free) alternatives. Maybe, but it seems like the only good one created by a billionaire. The WolframAlpha interpreter allows convenient syntax btw. I agree, but WolframAlpha is only good to estimate integrals. For serious work, you need write the code yourself. fleurbleue said: Meusnier said: Well, who said he doesn't?😉I realised that he should have instead used his wealth to fix social inequality. Meusnier said: Okay fine, I'll be good from now on. I just couldn't resist the urge.😁 Also, my thread wasn't about curiosity killing, it was mostly a choice I made to make sure my thread didn't become one big debate about which kind of murder would be the most acceptable or not... But I wouldn't have minded if you participated. Do you have that much of an aversion towards murder that every mention of it is distasteful?If my thread gets closed, I will blame you (I did not ruin your distasteful thread on "curiosity killing," so please don't try to ruin mine...) Meusnier said: If you're referring to medical assistance in dying, then people suffering from mental illness aren't illegible. It is eventually supposed to be the case but it is likely to be overturned after the next election as the Conservative party are likely to win. If you still disapprove of its use for terminally ill people and still go on that we should focus on the causes then feel free to present us the cure to cancer.😅No one should be killed, not even the war veterans or the people who suffer from depression (controversial viewpoint in Babylon-like Canada). You don't fix an unjust system by treating its effects instead of its causes. Charity is a sub-optimal system and socialism is far more efficient. Thank you. Oh no, it was not about murder but more the implications of the question (that I would not be a good judge of character and that moral perfection incarnate could commit such a despicable act). You don't need a suicide law when palliative care exist, and terminally ill people should not kill themselves, and if they decide to end their lives, they should not have to ask for the approval of the government (cf. Henry de Montherlant). The West has become the civilisation of death and this is the infaillible harbinger of its imminent demise. |
Jan 25, 3:47 PM
#43
Reply to Meusnier
@Cybercat2000 According to MAL, anime is just cartoons produced by Japan, South Korea, or China. 动画、アニメ、or dessins animés are all the same thing. It is like saying that Japanese film makers are doing something completely different than movies called 映画... Or people who insists that Chinese and Korean manga are not like manga (those people typically insist to call them manwha/manhua as if it mattered... How snobbish of them). The style may be different, but the underlying principle is the same.
@MissHeed Thanks! I will be sure to watch it.
ChapGPT is not a girl! My intuition did not fool me and this guy supports turning Americans into drug addicts...
I agree, but WolframAlpha is only good to estimate integrals. For serious work, you need write the code yourself.
Charity is a sub-optimal system and socialism is far more efficient.
Thank you. Oh no, it was not about murder but more the implications of the question (that I would not be a good judge of character and that moral perfection incarnate could commit such a despicable act).
You don't need a suicide law when palliative care exist, and terminally ill people should not kill themselves, and if they decide to end their lives, they should not have to ask for the approval of the government (cf. Henry de Montherlant). The West has become the civilisation of death and this is the infaillible harbinger of its imminent demise.
@MissHeed Thanks! I will be sure to watch it.
149597871 said:
ChatGPT told me George Soros was a good guy and to not trust the conspiracies on the internet. She also told me you'd disapprove for some reason!
Meusnier said:
I hope that the third is a joke.
149597871 said:
Christian Gray, Tony Stark, and George Soros.
Christian Gray, Tony Stark, and George Soros.
I hope that the third is a joke.
ChatGPT told me George Soros was a good guy and to not trust the conspiracies on the internet. She also told me you'd disapprove for some reason!
ChapGPT is not a girl! My intuition did not fool me and this guy supports turning Americans into drug addicts...
Zarutaku said:
Maybe, but it seems like the only good one created by a billionaire. The WolframAlpha interpreter allows convenient syntax btw.
Meusnier said:
The software that he created is helpful, but the coding language is quite awful and there are better (free) alternatives.
The software that he created is helpful, but the coding language is quite awful and there are better (free) alternatives.
Maybe, but it seems like the only good one created by a billionaire. The WolframAlpha interpreter allows convenient syntax btw.
I agree, but WolframAlpha is only good to estimate integrals. For serious work, you need write the code yourself.
fleurbleue said:
Meusnier said:
I realised that he should have instead used his wealth to fix social inequality.
Well, who said he doesn't?😉I realised that he should have instead used his wealth to fix social inequality.
Meusnier said:
If my thread gets closed, I will blame you (I did not ruin your distasteful thread on "curiosity killing," so please don't try to ruin mine...)
Okay fine, I'll be good from now on. I just couldn't resist the urge.😁 Also, my thread wasn't about curiosity killing, it was mostly a choice I made to make sure my thread didn't become one big debate about which kind of murder would be the most acceptable or not... But I wouldn't have minded if you participated. Do you have that much of an aversion towards murder that every mention of it is distasteful?If my thread gets closed, I will blame you (I did not ruin your distasteful thread on "curiosity killing," so please don't try to ruin mine...)
Meusnier said:
No one should be killed, not even the war veterans or the people who suffer from depression (controversial viewpoint in Babylon-like Canada). You don't fix an unjust system by treating its effects instead of its causes.
If you're referring to medical assistance in dying, then people suffering from mental illness aren't illegible. It is eventually supposed to be the case but it is likely to be overturned after the next election as the Conservative party are likely to win. If you still disapprove of its use for terminally ill people and still go on that we should focus on the causes then feel free to present us the cure to cancer.😅No one should be killed, not even the war veterans or the people who suffer from depression (controversial viewpoint in Babylon-like Canada). You don't fix an unjust system by treating its effects instead of its causes.
Charity is a sub-optimal system and socialism is far more efficient.
Thank you. Oh no, it was not about murder but more the implications of the question (that I would not be a good judge of character and that moral perfection incarnate could commit such a despicable act).
You don't need a suicide law when palliative care exist, and terminally ill people should not kill themselves, and if they decide to end their lives, they should not have to ask for the approval of the government (cf. Henry de Montherlant). The West has become the civilisation of death and this is the infaillible harbinger of its imminent demise.
Meusnier said: Not everyone want to prolong a miserable end of life or to even be constantly kept in a semi-vegetative state because of painkillers. You don't need a suicide law when palliative care exist Meusnier said: But why? Why should it be wrong for someone to decide they want to be done with physical pain? And what do they have to gain by not doing it? terminally ill people should not kill themselves Meusnier said: Doctors are actually the ones in charge of judging whether a person is eligible or not, not the government.they should not have to ask for the approval of the government |
Jan 25, 7:54 PM
#44
Anyone who is generous enough to give a cheque for 5 million is my favourite billionaire. Or Whoever billionaire can fund research that finally find a cure for that godforsaken disease that has terrified humanity for millions of years. When that day comes it'll be greatest achievement in human history. |
Jan 25, 8:14 PM
#45
I was going to say David Green, but I see that he believes in a prosperity gospel. I still think that despite this and his artifacts smuggling controversy, he has done a lot of good, and I certainly respect for what he's done with Hobby Lobby. Otherwise, I guess Gabe Newell or Kjeld Kirk Kristiansen? I don't really know about most of them, but I like Steam and LEGO. |
Jan 27, 2:13 PM
#46
fleurbleue said: Meusnier said: Not everyone want to prolong a miserable end of life or to even be constantly kept in a semi-vegetative state because of painkillers. You don't need a suicide law when palliative care exist Meusnier said: But why? Why should it be wrong for someone to decide they want to be done with physical pain? And what do they have to gain by not doing it? terminally ill people should not kill themselves Meusnier said: Doctors are actually the ones in charge of judging whether a person is eligible or not, not the government.they should not have to ask for the approval of the government Yes, not everyone is strong enough to keep living, but does it mean that they are justified to ask you to kill them? Rhetorical question. I do not argue about obvious things any more, and this thread has been sufficiently derailed. You are to morals what Flat Earthers are to astrophysicists, and it is a pity that you cannot comprehend how wrong is it to ask someone else to end your own life (it is also wrong to commit suicide obviously, though it may not seem obvious to you). Doctors work for the government in many countries, so what difference does it make? You still relinquish the power you have on your own life to other people. |
Jan 27, 2:16 PM
#47
They are all big fat losers. Will their money save them from Near Term Human Extinction. Of course, not! |
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Jan 27, 2:44 PM
#48
Reply to Meusnier
fleurbleue said:
Meusnier said:
You don't need a suicide law when palliative care exist
Not everyone want to prolong a miserable end of life or to even be constantly kept in a semi-vegetative state because of painkillers. You don't need a suicide law when palliative care exist
Meusnier said:
terminally ill people should not kill themselves
But why? Why should it be wrong for someone to decide they want to be done with physical pain? And what do they have to gain by not doing it? terminally ill people should not kill themselves
Meusnier said:
they should not have to ask for the approval of the government
Doctors are actually the ones in charge of judging whether a person is eligible or not, not the government.they should not have to ask for the approval of the government
Yes, not everyone is strong enough to keep living, but does it mean that they are justified to ask you to kill them? Rhetorical question.
I do not argue about obvious things any more, and this thread has been sufficiently derailed. You are to morals what Flat Earthers are to astrophysicists, and it is a pity that you cannot comprehend how wrong is it to ask someone else to end your own life (it is also wrong to commit suicide obviously, though it may not seem obvious to you). Doctors work for the government in many countries, so what difference does it make? You still relinquish the power you have on your own life to other people.
@Meusnier I asked why it is wrong but you then proceed by not answering and merely continue to say it is wrong... But whatever, your accusation about me having low morals is laughable when you are basically saying that the moral thing to do is to force people to suffer against their will. |
Jan 27, 3:59 PM
#49
Meusnier said: According to MAL, anime is just cartoons produced by Japan, South Korea, or China. 动画、アニメ、or dessins animés are all the same thing. It is like saying that Japanese film makers are doing something completely different than movies called 映画... Or people who insists that Chinese and Korean manga are not like manga (those people typically insist to call them manwha/manhua as if it mattered... How snobbish of them). The style may be different, but the underlying principle is the same. Different etymologies with different implications. "Cartoon" is from French "carton" or Italian "cartone". The original meaning was rough sketches before the more detailed work of an artist. This later came to mean newspaper political drawings which then became satirical. Because all the early animation in the US was comedic the term "cartoon" is associated with non serious things that don't really tell full length stories other than a comedic nature, which wasn't much a thing till decades later. This is why the term "cartoon" is avoided in the West for more serious stories or stuff meant to have a wider audience where "animated series/film/short" such as in "animated film", "animated series", and "Japanese animation" which became "Japanimation" which later was swapped for "anime" is used instead. Likewise Japan mostly abandoned using 漫画 for animated works in favour of アニメ at some point later on where the term 漫画 was just meant for printed works. So cartoon while technically on paper just means animation in practice it has a more narrow meaning. |
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Jan 30, 9:06 AM
#50
traed said: Meusnier said: According to MAL, anime is just cartoons produced by Japan, South Korea, or China. 动画、アニメ、or dessins animés are all the same thing. It is like saying that Japanese film makers are doing something completely different than movies called 映画... Or people who insists that Chinese and Korean manga are not like manga (those people typically insist to call them manwha/manhua as if it mattered... How snobbish of them). The style may be different, but the underlying principle is the same. Different etymologies with different implications. "Cartoon" is from French "carton" or Italian "cartone". The original meaning was rough sketches before the more detailed work of an artist. This later came to mean newspaper political drawings which then became satirical. Because all the early animation in the US was comedic the term "cartoon" is associated with non serious things that don't really tell full length stories other than a comedic nature, which wasn't much a thing till decades later. This is why the term "cartoon" is avoided in the West for more serious stories or stuff meant to have a wider audience where "animated series/film/short" such as in "animated film", "animated series", and "Japanese animation" which became "Japanimation" which later was swapped for "anime" is used instead. Likewise Japan mostly abandoned using 漫画 for animated works in favour of アニメ at some point later on where the term 漫画 was just meant for printed works. So cartoon while technically on paper just means animation in practice it has a more narrow meaning. You are a monolingual drone and there are no fundamental differences between cartoons and anime. fleurbleue said: @Meusnier I asked why it is wrong but you then proceed by not answering and merely continue to say it is wrong... But whatever, your accusation about me having low morals is laughable when you are basically saying that the moral thing to do is to force people to suffer against their will. We already know that you have low morals, but this is not a fundamental point. Have you read this last sentence out loud after writing it? Asking someone to kill you because you are suffering is in no way something moral to do. The moral course of action on both sides is to do nothing. You can even see that in terms of Nash equilibrium. |
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