| Responding to Op; Is it that rampant? They cited 2.5 d seduction & Fairy Tail like there are no, NONE, anime made that don't feature sexualization. Did you watch Yuri On Ice? Does one scene in 50 episodes ruin the whole series for you? There's product out there that caters to your tastes, why complain about the ones that don't? |
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| >Unneeded It's just your opinion, and a shitty one too. Most people love seeing attractive and sexualized characters in anime, even if the anime is very plot-driven. |
09philj said: There's a certain amount of "stopping the episode in order to put wank material on screen" in various things in various genres which may not exactly ruin a series but can be a bit trying or uncomfortable to sit through if they're not what you're there for. Prurient stuff is not much fun for people who aren't into it, and while it's not everywhere it can appear anywhere, when you least expect it, and it can feel jarring if it's not tied into the wider themes, vibes, or plot, like it's tacked on or out of place. Here is the thing, Japanese Anime is notoriously known to do this for ages now that it should just be something to expect most of the time. This is dating back to even the 80s and 90s. Where I just finished watching an Anime series that I got my hands on Blu-ray recently from the mid 90s called "Blue Seed". Where in just about every episode the main female character Momiji Fujimiya who is 15 pretty much has her panties being briefly displayed literally in almost every episode of this series. Stuff like this seems only uncomfortable to those who have not been into this medium as long as someone like me where I even had the privilege of seeing Iconic Anime in theaters in the 80s and 90s such as "Akira", "Project A-ko", "Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind", "Fist of the North Star", "Ghost in the Shell", "Wicked City", "Robot Carnival", "Golgo 13", "Ninja Scroll", etc... Do I think of this type of stuff personally as "wank material"? Hell no! But I have just gotten use to it as it just being part of Japanese Anime. More broadly, Japanese media in general where I even remember watching live action TV shows in Japan as a child in the early 80s that would constantly have action fight scenes of female characters briefly exposing their panties. One of which I was recently reminded of is a Japanese TV series called "Playgirl Q" (Pureigaru Kyu). It's an action/drama kind of like a Japanese "Charlie's Angels". |
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@JaniSIr
things can get spicy. where i have a problem is, when characters are oversexualised in completly normal situations where its complelty worthless.
i dont need the pantyshot when the girl is just walking down the street.
and i also dont need half naked big boobed women everywhere when we look to the shounen genre.
i just hate when it feels like the whole point of the women being there is for men to drool on their tiddys...
things can get spicy. where i have a problem is, when characters are oversexualised in completly normal situations where its complelty worthless.
i dont need the pantyshot when the girl is just walking down the street.
and i also dont need half naked big boobed women everywhere when we look to the shounen genre.
i just hate when it feels like the whole point of the women being there is for men to drool on their tiddys...
| @Wrathberry84 That's really just a matter of taste tbh, you can watch stuff that's not like that... Wrathberry84 said: i just hate when it feels like the whole point of the women being there is for men to drool on their tiddys... And you should take this advice I gave earlier: |
| Back in the 80s, Disney animation was on the brink of bankruptcy, they threw out their last-ditch effort to revive their animation department with The Great Mouse detective. Now some people will say it was daring use of CGI along with 2D animation, or the new young talented animators, or even the use of celebrity voice actors, but we all know the real reason people loved it so much. It was because they flashed Olivia's panties constantly in that show. That's right, little olivia's panties saved disney  Also mouse strippers  |
| I disagree with the OP. All this sexualization in anime is very, very necessary. |
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| Don't know? Why so much violence and murder? Oh, you don't care about that, do you?^^ Stop it. You're a phony. |
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| I think about this often and in many of my reviews I lash out at the unneeded fetishisms being forced upon us by the authors/writers. I have watched many animes that were essentially ruined because of the weird decisions made during writing. The only answer I have come to is that Japanese people are weird lmao XD. okay i don't actually believe this but still... Nah but for real, as someone who really enjoys 18+ rated animes for there gruesome animation and uncensored nature, I just wish there were more animes that do not sexualize women. And don't even get me started on the sexualization of little kids, found in goddamn every anime it feels like. I have dropped many shows for this reason alone. Also, if you are still reading this, please give me recommendations for animes that do not do this |
"We can't seem to resist what is out of our reach. Maybe that explains our obsession with the stars, the unknown is too appealing"  |
| Fan service never harms, helps to attract and reward viewers. Looking at nice bodies is pleasing and aspiring. |
| Caveman draw anime girl on cave, Caveman happy. Cityman angry at cave drawing, Caveman throw club at Cityman. epic candy :   |
| Anime does exagerated and unneeded on everything. Pick "I'll take this potato chip and eat it" scene in death note. The comments above me are fantastic, like OP don't mentions that Natsu is always shirtless or Gray is the fairy tail #1 stripper in the rant, but says ~ guys ~ too. So it is obviously bashing Fairy Tail. So aren`t the comments talking at it as if it were feminism off point? It is weird but guys will not say anything that gazes male body as erotic, and be ok with lightly female erotic scenes. And woman will detect any hint of erotic and say it is erotic and that they hate it and it should be cut, or it should become a BL doujinshi/Queer flag. Back to Fairy Tail, it feels like you can exclude the jokes, the blue talking cat and the magic too. It also stops being Fairy Tail. I don`t know why everyone keeps bringing Fairy Tail when they want to bash Erotic content in anime. |
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| Simple-because men and women are always horny and sex sells stuff. |
| Life Is Short But Intense. |
| Why is anything in anything? Because someone behind the scenes wanted it. Did Spongebob need a prison rape joke or to imply it's main character often steals underwear from old ladies? No. But damnit, some writer or writers wanted Spongebob to rob crusty panties and make a drop the soap reference, and they got that shit in there. |
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So you were born in 1984 and you are still a virgin.
| @JoeChip Yeah...Because no one has ever had sex and still had an aversion to seeing nudity in media. I suppose any ultra religious/conservative person with kids was knocked up the same way their favorite carpenter's mom was. |
| cause it awesome and mega hot LOL. i mean who want to sit around and listen to these stupid story when you can has boobs and panties. in my opnion : why go out and waste money with a woman who you ahve to give dinnar and then for the sex u have to ask for consent and blabla all this kinda stuff when i can just go on seasonal anime pick 1 random and probably have like 50-60 cool boob + pantie shot from perfect japan cartoon fertile virgin woman ? it's such super good deal you'd think da devil was involved |
| fanboys at the edge of teenage age and were considered to be young adults like 16~20 yo are quite horny and always in "neuron activation" mode, so aint no surprise when they saw and can be attracted by sexualize scenes. also, fanservice doesnt always work but whether it's necessary or not, probably depends on the written and those who watch the show. if the narrative is good then it may not need to rely on any cheap ecchi fanservice and other way around, if it's bad then you may see some BS ridiculous half-nude scene that is kinda nonsense, for example like you are watching an isekai with harem and ecchi, with a stupid-ass male protagonist. and media these days are consuming a ton of sexual content so any genre of anime is not an exception. |
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@Sasori56483
The difference is, that of course grey is perma naked but its more a joke.
Also there is no episode where all the men in fairy tail are nearly naked and present themselfs to get drooled at. But there is one for the women.
Also there is a huge difference between men and women being topless.
The difference is, that of course grey is perma naked but its more a joke.
Also there is no episode where all the men in fairy tail are nearly naked and present themselfs to get drooled at. But there is one for the women.
Also there is a huge difference between men and women being topless.
| @Wrathberry84 Its more of a joke for other characters too. But it still happens, and when it does has a still or a sliding frame of him. So the "unneeded scenes" with male are there. Manga has a lot of erotic scenes male fairies covers too. And that comes since first chapter. Singling up on fairy tail anime for this and bashing female exposure does not improve the point of your hand in my opinion. You could change the example anime for Magi/Sinbad and the whole point that your intro goes about guys stripping would have less noise. I wouldn't compare topless to topless, but I've been reading a lot of josei and shirtless is a common female gaze content. Maybe it is equivalent to hand/hair bra, bikini top shot. But I am not sure there. It is superficial to ignore it, but it is impossible to compare excitation levels, the girls I spoke to admit they like seeing some kinds of toned abs. Same way some people can get erotic feels from clothed people in fit clothing depending on the angles. But be dense to it. My point on shining that is the eroticism in that work is a spice, like putting jokes in fight or a clumsy/memoriless blue cat are, and you were seeing it as distracting erotic exploitation. The examples do not feel really good to me and were un needed to make your general point or added a lot of noise. Maybe if you could bring other popular examples, that could help. |
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@Merve2Love i can tell you: because violence and murder is part of the story. Its normaly not Happening in storys it has no place in.
Again: im not against sex, nudity and so on in anime at all.
Im just against it in storys that have nothing to do with it storywise.
Again: im not against sex, nudity and so on in anime at all.
Im just against it in storys that have nothing to do with it storywise.
| @Wrathberry84 Again: You wouldn't be fine if sex and nudity was "part of the story", tho, would you?^^ These poor cartoon women are getting sexualized afterall! You'd still be shocked out of your whiny little soul. You hate/cant handle sexual content. And somehow you think that should be anyones problem. It's not. It's fake outrage xD Shut up, already. |
Merve2LoveJan 5, 1:18 PM
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| Probably because there is demand for it. When I recently watched Dan da dan, I also wondered about it and at some point I had enough. There are plenty of series with unnecessary fanservice and sexualization of teenagers or even minors, and I don't think this will change |
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@Merve2Love i wouldnt? Great that you know so much of me xD
| @Wrathberry84 I don't need to know you. I adress the things you're saying and aswering your Thread ->> Wrathberry84 said: o this is a topic about sexualisation of women in anime That's what a discussion (should be) is. You made zero points, with this reply and laughed at me for "knowing so much about you" when I simply tried to argue with you, not dismissing your points. You're a fool^^ |
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rsc-pl said: There’s no seduction in the title. It was done probably for making more manga sales. 誘惑 (yuuwaku) in the anime name (that is supposed to be pronounced here like main girl’s name - Ririsa, probably because the whole title is about her) means primarily temptation. While it can mean seduction in certain circumstances, I don’t believe it belongs here. It’s more about the irresistible allure of the world that exists between fiction (2D) and reality (3D) where the main focus is Ririsa’s passion for cosplay, which is considered 2.5D by main protagonist. Seduction and temptation are 2 different things. That is what seduction means though. Seduction is not inherently sexual in meaning. Like if someone says about another being "seduced by power" everyone knows what they mean. Although it seems that other meaning often gets used in negative light more often than positive. |
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Part of it is because there is basically a post genre age where everything kind of blends together. Japanese culture traditionally was very much fine with the human body and sexuality and only became more conservative in Western terms by imperialist control over Japan post WWII. Sexuality and nudity are part of life. Also not everything you see is inherently meant as explicitly erotic but rather a way of showing a kind of realism, artistic angles or show innocence of a character through the lens of sexual gaze.
2.5D Seduction is one of the worst examples. Shouldn't the name and ecchi genre clued you in? Literally the whole point isn't just about cosplay it's an animanga otaku's fantasy of having flesh and blood girls like their anime waifus and imoutos.
2.5D Seduction is one of the worst examples. Shouldn't the name and ecchi genre clued you in? Literally the whole point isn't just about cosplay it's an animanga otaku's fantasy of having flesh and blood girls like their anime waifus and imoutos.
| @traed I agree with this. Complaining about a show that sexualizes young girls with the theme typically showing young girls doing cosplay is pretty contradictory on its own. Plus there's already plenty of fanservice that existed and pretty much a majority of them have fanservice even if you don't remember it. The most popular shows (Naruto, One Piece, Bleach, GTO, hell even Dragon Ball has it) have them, so why is it now bad to talk about fanservice? |
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| I think all of this sexualization is very, very necessary. None of it is unnecessary. |
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| In recent months, I have the feeling that many people, especially young people, have simply become as prudish as possible and seem to be caricaturedly asexual. I mean, even from adults I have never heard so much sexphobia and propaganda of asexuality as from modern youth. For example, did you ever imagine that you would see a bunch of people no older than 25 telling you that not even watching, but just being neutral about pornography is a sign of perversion and immorality? |
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@RobertBobert "before the dark times,before the Empire"
| @Otakupervert890 It's really hard for me to accept this because at my age children were the last people you would expect to have this kind of mentality. |
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@RobertBobert yeah I know make me miss the 90's. It's why my copium with that it's the quote from Alec Guinness in Star Wars. That quote fit so well for what we experiencing it's frightening.
| @Otakupervert890 My translation makes it sound like "from more civilized times", which makes things even more subtle, lmao. I can agree with those who do not want to see erotica in the most ordinary "wholesome" shows, but sometimes this turns into a real phobia. |
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@TheMechaManiac I never said men are never sexualized, OP was talking about women so that's what I was focusing on. The primary issue with the sexualization of women isn't that they're showing skin, it's the way it's shown and how these characters are treated in general. A lot of the times female characters exist to be only eye candy: they're irrelevant unless the author wants a few lewd shots or they're treated (either by the author or audience) as if their only trait is being sexy.
Whenever a male character appears shirtless, the intent varies from genre to genre, which is a benefit female characters don't get. When watching a shoujo anime you can safely assume that when the male love interest appears shirtless you (as a presumed straight female audience) are meant to stare, but when watching a shonen anime I highly doubt the author intended the (presumed) straight male audience to giggle and blush when the protagonist's shirt is torn in a fight.
From what I've seen, female audiences don't tend to treat sexy male characters the same way a male audience treats sexy female characters: I've seen multiple men admit that they only watch anime that has female characters in skimpy clothing, but I've never seen a woman say anything similar. (This anecdotal evidence so don't take it that seriously, but you get what my point is. Women and men behave differently around sexualized depictions of their preferred gender. If it's worth anything, the great majority of women who are into women that I've met don't like the way women are sexualized in media, so it's not like the way sexy women are presented even satisfies the entire group of people that is interested in that)
When male characters are sexualized, they tend to be in much more "normal" ways. You don't see a male version of a bikini armor or a guy whose signature outfit is incredibly uncomfortable for the sake of showing skin and appealing to fans nearly as often as you do for the female characters.
Whenever a male character appears shirtless, the intent varies from genre to genre, which is a benefit female characters don't get. When watching a shoujo anime you can safely assume that when the male love interest appears shirtless you (as a presumed straight female audience) are meant to stare, but when watching a shonen anime I highly doubt the author intended the (presumed) straight male audience to giggle and blush when the protagonist's shirt is torn in a fight.
From what I've seen, female audiences don't tend to treat sexy male characters the same way a male audience treats sexy female characters: I've seen multiple men admit that they only watch anime that has female characters in skimpy clothing, but I've never seen a woman say anything similar. (This anecdotal evidence so don't take it that seriously, but you get what my point is. Women and men behave differently around sexualized depictions of their preferred gender. If it's worth anything, the great majority of women who are into women that I've met don't like the way women are sexualized in media, so it's not like the way sexy women are presented even satisfies the entire group of people that is interested in that)
When male characters are sexualized, they tend to be in much more "normal" ways. You don't see a male version of a bikini armor or a guy whose signature outfit is incredibly uncomfortable for the sake of showing skin and appealing to fans nearly as often as you do for the female characters.
| @terralia terralia said: A lot of the times female characters exist to be only eye candy Same goes every time for male characters in romantic shoujo and josei, male characters there are more basic than most typical tsundere or kudere in shoujo. terralia said: Whenever a male character appears shirtless, the intent varies from genre to genre Cool story, are you intently support double standards here? It's like saying "b-but social norm is all about talking all day about objectification and people in twitter say that it's never the case opposite situation because you know, females can't objectify males because... because I say so! And twitter says the same!". terralia said: I've seen multiple men admit that they only watch anime that has female characters in skimpy clothing, but I've never seen a woman say anything similar. Just imagine believing in what some females say when there exists yaoi made just for them, where males have obscene sex scenes while one of them is princess-like feminine dude in a pair with a traditional prince-like macho-man. terralia said: the great majority of women who are into women that I've met don't like the way women are sexualized in media, so it's not like the way sexy women are presented even satisfies the entire group of people that is interested in that Imagine caring about what lesbians think about fanservice which made for heterosexual males by default. Yaoi never was made for gay men, you know. So deal with it. terralia said: When male characters are sexualized, they tend to be in much more "normal" ways. No, they are not, they are all like idols multiplied with heroes of romantic books in soft cover. terralia said: You don't see a male version of a bikini armor or a guy whose signature outfit is incredibly uncomfortable for the sake of showing skin And what? Males like to see more skin due natural interest, females like to fantasize about some ideal dude which is more about fabulous facade and manner of speech since it's all about social "mating dance". Just imagine to make a fuss about differences between sexes in 2025. |
| People like being horny. Porn can also be considered unnecessary but since their is a market for it people create it. Same thing for ecchi in anime. The only way to stop it is through government action, which probably won't happen. |
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@TheMechaManiac I never said men are never sexualized, OP was talking about women so that's what I was focusing on. The primary issue with the sexualization of women isn't that they're showing skin, it's the way it's shown and how these characters are treated in general. A lot of the times female characters exist to be only eye candy: they're irrelevant unless the author wants a few lewd shots or they're treated (either by the author or audience) as if their only trait is being sexy.
Whenever a male character appears shirtless, the intent varies from genre to genre, which is a benefit female characters don't get. When watching a shoujo anime you can safely assume that when the male love interest appears shirtless you (as a presumed straight female audience) are meant to stare, but when watching a shonen anime I highly doubt the author intended the (presumed) straight male audience to giggle and blush when the protagonist's shirt is torn in a fight.
From what I've seen, female audiences don't tend to treat sexy male characters the same way a male audience treats sexy female characters: I've seen multiple men admit that they only watch anime that has female characters in skimpy clothing, but I've never seen a woman say anything similar. (This anecdotal evidence so don't take it that seriously, but you get what my point is. Women and men behave differently around sexualized depictions of their preferred gender. If it's worth anything, the great majority of women who are into women that I've met don't like the way women are sexualized in media, so it's not like the way sexy women are presented even satisfies the entire group of people that is interested in that)
When male characters are sexualized, they tend to be in much more "normal" ways. You don't see a male version of a bikini armor or a guy whose signature outfit is incredibly uncomfortable for the sake of showing skin and appealing to fans nearly as often as you do for the female characters.
Whenever a male character appears shirtless, the intent varies from genre to genre, which is a benefit female characters don't get. When watching a shoujo anime you can safely assume that when the male love interest appears shirtless you (as a presumed straight female audience) are meant to stare, but when watching a shonen anime I highly doubt the author intended the (presumed) straight male audience to giggle and blush when the protagonist's shirt is torn in a fight.
From what I've seen, female audiences don't tend to treat sexy male characters the same way a male audience treats sexy female characters: I've seen multiple men admit that they only watch anime that has female characters in skimpy clothing, but I've never seen a woman say anything similar. (This anecdotal evidence so don't take it that seriously, but you get what my point is. Women and men behave differently around sexualized depictions of their preferred gender. If it's worth anything, the great majority of women who are into women that I've met don't like the way women are sexualized in media, so it's not like the way sexy women are presented even satisfies the entire group of people that is interested in that)
When male characters are sexualized, they tend to be in much more "normal" ways. You don't see a male version of a bikini armor or a guy whose signature outfit is incredibly uncomfortable for the sake of showing skin and appealing to fans nearly as often as you do for the female characters.
| Different genders, different cultures, different tastes as the Lawgun brought out. terralia said: a guy whose signature outfit is incredibly uncomfortable for the sake of showing skin and appealing to fans Not really, See Dragon quest "Erik/Kamyuu" main outfit. Sephiroth, Kuroro and any other guy who dons Visual key outfits in media. I am in doubt how normal it is crossdressing in daily life, but it is a common "for female" fan service. It un neededly appears on most female oriented media. And much more, but I sense those would just be viewed as well placed fanservice and progressive themes. |
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@WaffleMaster89 i understand that.
and i am totaly fine with the existance of ecchi anime or hentai or whatever.
my whole problem comes if characters in anime that have nothing to do with it.
mieruko-chan was an example. i nearly dropped the show after the first 2 episodes because of unneeded fan-service, it got less later in the show so i kept watching....
but why was it even there? it really felt like they thought their story is too bad, so they put some sexy high school girl scenes in it, to make people watch it..
and i am totaly fine with the existance of ecchi anime or hentai or whatever.
my whole problem comes if characters in anime that have nothing to do with it.
mieruko-chan was an example. i nearly dropped the show after the first 2 episodes because of unneeded fan-service, it got less later in the show so i kept watching....
but why was it even there? it really felt like they thought their story is too bad, so they put some sexy high school girl scenes in it, to make people watch it..
Wrathberry84 said: mieruko-chan was an example. i nearly dropped the show after the first 2 episodes because of unneeded fan-service Wait what? I dropped that show because it didn't have any fanservice. |
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@Merve2Love funny story.
all your post did was trying to attack me on a personal level dude.
you are a joke and you know that. i seriously have no interest in a discussion with someone like you.
seriously funny that you try to attack me for laughing at you for this post:
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@Wrathberry84
Again: You wouldn't be fine if sex and nudity was "part of the story", tho, would you?^^ These poor cartoon women are getting sexualized afterall!
You'd still be shocked out of your whiny little soul. You hate/cant handle sexual content. And somehow you think that should be anyones problem. It's not.
It's fake outrage xD
Shut up, already."
all you did here was trying to attack me. go on kid.
all your post did was trying to attack me on a personal level dude.
you are a joke and you know that. i seriously have no interest in a discussion with someone like you.
seriously funny that you try to attack me for laughing at you for this post:
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@Wrathberry84
Again: You wouldn't be fine if sex and nudity was "part of the story", tho, would you?^^ These poor cartoon women are getting sexualized afterall!
You'd still be shocked out of your whiny little soul. You hate/cant handle sexual content. And somehow you think that should be anyones problem. It's not.
It's fake outrage xD
Shut up, already."
all you did here was trying to attack me. go on kid.
| @Wrathberry84 Attack?^^ Im here, answering YOUR thread, my little boy xD Nobody is attacking you. Stop whining :) |
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Reply to Wrathberry84
@WaffleMaster89 i understand that.
and i am totaly fine with the existance of ecchi anime or hentai or whatever.
my whole problem comes if characters in anime that have nothing to do with it.
mieruko-chan was an example. i nearly dropped the show after the first 2 episodes because of unneeded fan-service, it got less later in the show so i kept watching....
but why was it even there? it really felt like they thought their story is too bad, so they put some sexy high school girl scenes in it, to make people watch it..
and i am totaly fine with the existance of ecchi anime or hentai or whatever.
my whole problem comes if characters in anime that have nothing to do with it.
mieruko-chan was an example. i nearly dropped the show after the first 2 episodes because of unneeded fan-service, it got less later in the show so i kept watching....
but why was it even there? it really felt like they thought their story is too bad, so they put some sexy high school girl scenes in it, to make people watch it..
| @Wrathberry84 Well that's kind of my point. Fanservice is eye catching for many people so putting some in early episodes can help keep viewer retention. Although if you don't like fanservice that's completely valid, I'll just recommend for you to just ignore those elements in anime since it can be quite common. That's all you really can do without just stop watching it altogether. |
| Go read Berserk and One Piece they're the best thing ever |
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