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Yesterday, 11:04 PM
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Nowadays People relied to much on Smartphone that basically all they had what happen like Back to Future were you accidentally went back in time can you survive without a smartphone, internet or any good video console


What do you think?
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Yesterday, 11:06 PM
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i guess they will survive since humans are good at adapting most of the time but few of them will be stuck or get mentally sick
Yesterday, 11:14 PM
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I had a flip-phone until 2017, and I also remember still using 3.5'' floppy disks and Windows XP in freshman year of highschool. I don't know about the 80s but I think could survive from the 90s to the mid 2000s. Gen Z/Alpha definitely couldn't survive either though.
Yesterday, 11:19 PM
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Without...smartphones, most likely, but without...

_internet
_computers
_no easy access to porn

...most definitely not
Yesterday, 11:23 PM
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"Can a Gen Z/alpha can survive the 80s"

Just like the Borg in Star Trek, they would adapt.
Yesterday, 11:37 PM
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I don't know of any users old enough to remember the 80s.

What do you mean no wifi? The internet wasn't even publicly used much until about 1995 on so what would you even do with WiFi in the 80s? lol

Most would not have a cell phone either. Only businessmen and maybe some rich kids had cell phones and they are huge bricks.

But they would just get used to it unless they are into more niche interests like anime or something
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Yesterday, 11:39 PM
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Not only they can adapt, but they will soon find out that without smart phone, social media, internet and so on, they will be happier, leading simple happy lives, where having fun is as simply as playing hide and seek, or playing polices and thieves, in the garden or some old buildings, or gossiping about there are ghosts in that old building

They will have more activities that involve body movements, it's much healthier lifestyle for kids compared to now, physically and mentally healthier


Yesterday, 11:48 PM
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traed said:
The internet wasn't even publicly used much until about 1995

Have you used PCs in the 90s? They were so slow; so was the internet (you could go to work, come back, and the damn internet page would still be loading)

I believe the internet only truly began to be publicly used close to the mid-2000s, not the mid-90s.
Yesterday, 11:53 PM
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traed said:
The internet wasn't even publicly used much until about 1995

Have you used PCs in the 90s? They were so slow; so was the internet (you could go to work, come back, and the damn internet page would still be loading)

I believe the internet only truly began to be publicly used close to the mid-2000s, not the mid-90s.
@Exhumatika
The mid 90s is the start of the dot com boom.
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The mid 90s is the start of the dot com boom.
.....You didn't answer my question
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As a member of Gen Z, I must say that all of you guys sound like boomers.
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I don't know of any users old enough to remember the 80s.

What do you mean no wifi? The internet wasn't even publicly used much until about 1995 on so what would you even do with WiFi in the 80s? lol

Most would not have a cell phone either. Only businessmen and maybe some rich kids had cell phones and they are huge bricks.

But they would just get used to it unless they are into more niche interests like anime or something
traed said:
I don't know of any users old enough to remember the 80s.

@deg is this you?

or is this your childhood?
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traed said:
I don't know of any users old enough to remember the 80s.

@deg is this you?

or is this your childhood?
@3miL my birth year is 1983 so sadly im too young to remember the 80s
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.....You didn't answer my question
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I didn't feel I really need to. I never said most people had computers using the internet in the 90s. I was saying the internet existed in the 90s for public use and was during the dot com boom. Unfortunately i couldnt find a graph by population percentage.

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Can Boomers/Gen-X survive the 1930s?
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traed said:
I was saying the internet existed in the 90s for public use and was during the dot com boom. Unfortunately i couldnt find a graph by population percentage.

It's like driving a car that has only a single 1st gear transmission; no point in bragging about that you have a car and that you go places.
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It'll take some adapting and that's pretty much it.
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Exhumatika said:
It's like driving a car that has only a single 1st gear transmission; no point in bragging about that you have a car and that you go places.

All I did was say a basic fact. I didn't even disagree that it was bigger in early 2000s as you can see in the bar graph. Just saying it was accessible in the 90s. Bear in mind earlier web design was a lot more lightweight than today. The only major difference between 90s and early 2000s technology wise DSL becoming more affordable I think. Im not sure when cable became more common since that heavily depends on region on when the infrastructure was installed.
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In the west, I guess they would?

Here?
In the 80s there was communism and access to electronics... maybe that times were not as extreme as it used to be earlier or in othe communistic countries as communism was gradually falling but that's not the soft times like it is right now. Not to mention that in schools back in those days a teacher could beat you up if you missbehaved [or if they simply wanted] and your parents, they would make a 2nd round on you, cause it was a sign of lack of discipline as the teacher was the right one and if you had bruises or other visible damage than you've been punished for a reason so the parents would punish you again even if they didn't know the reason, imagine that happening right now. [All of that based on my family and older buddies memories as I wasn't born yet back than x), one of my friend actually got few times beaten like described]



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The 80s? That easy. You just find the owner of the biggest business in your town, slam your fist on his desk and say "I'm your man." Then you go buy a car and a house with your first salary, or something like that.
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Their brains would literally implode, there's no way they could survive.

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pffft. I still don't own a smartphone and I'm damn proud of it.

The games on the original Nintendo Entertainment System were great, and notably more challenging than games tend to be now.

Exhumatika said:
Have you used PCs in the 90s? They were so slow; so was the internet (you could go to work, come back, and the damn internet page would still be loading)

Maybe in your country, but in the US they loaded in seconds unless you were downloading a large file.

I believe the internet only truly began to be publicly used close to the mid-2000s, not the mid-90s.

Nah, the internet became available to the public in the early 1990s, when I started using it. (Including at school.) The general public (at least in the US) was using it by the mid-90s. That's when eBay and Amazon were founded. Google came soon after, in 1998.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet#Internet_use_in_wider_society
"The Web opened to the public in 1991 and began to enter general use in 1993–4, when websites for everyday use started to become available."
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@3miL my birth year is 1983 so sadly im too young to remember the 80s



I'm a 1982 kid... and i Remember the 1980's just fine.




My Parent's Music became the soundtrack of my Childhood... and i actually didn't grow up to resent that either.

My Folks weren't Wealthy by any means... but they did try their utmost to raise me well,
with lots of positive influence and role modelling that in many ways has stuck with me to this day.

Between my mother's efforts to encourage interest in NASA and Aerospace Engineering in general
and her unconventional approach of raising me around both Boys' and Girls' Toys and such,
i suppose you could say that my lifelong interests already had their Foundations laid
before i even left my Preteens...















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People in the 80's relied to much on phones, television and cars, that basically all they had what happen like Back to Future were you accidentally went back in time can any Gen X survive without a phone, tv or any car?????




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@MasterTasuke i see honestly i just remember watching the original dragon ball anime, robotech and saber rider in those years but i also got poor memory anyway
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Probably not, they would have to talk to people and maybe even touch grass!
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People in the 80's relied to much on phones, television and cars, that basically all they had what happen like Back to Future were you accidentally went back in time can any Gen X survive without a phone, tv or any car?????




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SmugSatoko said:
Maybe in your country, but in the US they loaded in seconds unless you were downloading a large file.

Perhaps, but I never met anyone in the 90s who talked about the internet in a positive way, since most people didn't even bother with it.

SmugSatoko said:
Nah, the internet became available to the public in the early 1990s, when I started using it. (Including at school.) The general public (at least in the US) was using it by the mid-90s. That's when eBay and Amazon were founded. Google came soon after, in 1998.

The only first truly positive bursts of feedback from a lot of people (about the internet and having a good PC) I began to hear and see around that time when World of Warcraft launched in 2004; that was really a breaking point for a lot of people to build a decent PC and enjoy online community.

I personally never was into WoW but had some pretty close people to me who were, so that's why I believe the mid-2000s was a first very noticeable difference about the whole "internet beginning thing".
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Exhumatika said:
Perhaps, but I never met anyone in the 90s who talked about the internet in a positive way, since most people didn't even bother with it.

Your anecdote is not a statistically significant sample size. I knew countless people who spoke positively of the internet in the '90s. Everyone I knew loved it. Even now, there are many who pine for the old days of the internet when it wasn't so regulated and politically correct.

The only first truly positive bursts of feedback from a lot of people (about the internet and having a good PC) I began to hear and see around that time when World of Warcraft launched in 2004; that was really a breaking point for a lot of people to build a decent PC and enjoy online community.

I personally never was into WoW but had some pretty close people to me who were, so that's why I believe the mid-2000s was a first very noticeable difference about the whole internet began.

Again, your personal experience is irrelevant. And there is more to the internet than a single game.

I already covered how the internet became available to the public in the early 1990s and was in use by the general public by the mid-90s. It's not a matter of opinion. (Though it certainly grew in popularity since then.)

As for building custom gaming PCs, that is a separate topic entirely.
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Exhumatika said:
Perhaps, but I never met anyone in the 90s who talked about the internet in a positive way, since most people didn't even bother with it.

Your anecdote is not a statistically significant sample size. I knew countless people who spoke positively of the internet in the '90s. Everyone I knew loved it. Even now, there are many who pine for the old days of the internet when it wasn't so regulated and politically correct.

The only first truly positive bursts of feedback from a lot of people (about the internet and having a good PC) I began to hear and see around that time when World of Warcraft launched in 2004; that was really a breaking point for a lot of people to build a decent PC and enjoy online community.

I personally never was into WoW but had some pretty close people to me who were, so that's why I believe the mid-2000s was a first very noticeable difference about the whole internet began.

Again, your personal experience is irrelevant. And there is more to the internet than a single game.

I already covered how the internet became available to the public in the early 1990s and was in use by the general public by the mid-90s. It's not a matter of opinion. (Though it certainly grew in popularity since then.)

As for building custom gaming PCs, that is a separate topic entirely.
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Your anecdote is not a statistically significant sample size. I knew countless people who spoke positively of the internet in the '90s. Everyone I knew loved i


I don't wanna come off as trying to counter your point but majority of the people unless they had a traumatic experience would always say they loved the past all of us just miss a small part of the time that has passed and crave to maybe live thorugh that again.
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I don't wanna come off as trying to counter your point but majority of the people unless they had a traumatic experience would always say they loved the past all of us just miss a small part of the time that has passed and crave to maybe live thorugh that again.

Of course there are plenty of things to love about the past, even if it was worse in some ways. (But in his case, he didn't know many who used the internet back then in the first place.)
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Exhumatika said:
Perhaps, but I never met anyone in the 90s who talked about the internet in a positive way, since most people didn't even bother with it.

Your anecdote is not a statistically significant sample size. I knew countless people who spoke positively of the internet in the '90s. Everyone I knew loved it. Even now, there are many who pine for the old days of the internet when it wasn't so regulated and politically correct.

The only first truly positive bursts of feedback from a lot of people (about the internet and having a good PC) I began to hear and see around that time when World of Warcraft launched in 2004; that was really a breaking point for a lot of people to build a decent PC and enjoy online community.

I personally never was into WoW but had some pretty close people to me who were, so that's why I believe the mid-2000s was a first very noticeable difference about the whole internet began.

Again, your personal experience is irrelevant. And there is more to the internet than a single game.

I already covered how the internet became available to the public in the early 1990s and was in use by the general public by the mid-90s. It's not a matter of opinion. (Though it certainly grew in popularity since then.)

As for building custom gaming PCs, that is a separate topic entirely.
SmugSatoko said:
Again, your personal experience is irrelevant.

So is yours.

Not everyone in the world lived a pompous American life of the 90s, whose only concern was how great the internet was and other entertaining media.
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Exhumatika said:
So is yours.

I just thought I'd mention mine, since you mentioned yours.

Not everyone in the world lived a pompous American life of the 90s, whose only concern was how great the internet was and other entertaining media.

That doesn't change the fact that general public use of the internet began in the mid-90s. I didn't mean that applies to every country. But for reference, the first public internet site in Russia opened in 1994.

And no, the internet and entertainment were not the only concern of Americans. You're just making things up.
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SmugSatoko said:
And no, the internet and entertainment were not the only concern of Americans.

These only two should've been and should've stayed that way; the world would've been in better shape than it is now.

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You're just making things up.

You mistaken me for Western media, especially Western media of the 90s.
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Without...smartphones, most likely, but without...

_internet
_computers
_no easy access to porn

...most definitely not
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_no easy access to porn


People had a lot more sex in the 1980s, though.
Also, what is considered sexual harassment today was normal behavior back then.

Kinda understandable. Without easy porn access everyone has to be horny all the time.
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TransferUser said:
People had a lot more sex in the 1980s, though.
Also, what is considered sexual harassment today was normal behavior back then.

Kinda understandable. Without easy porn access everyone has to be horny all the time.

I wish you were a woman; I already like your initial mindset, especially in today's standards.
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I literally live in internet.
Without internet my life would be empty and meaningless.

Maybe if i were born in 80s i would somehow adapt (but it would still be much worse than now) but if i went back in time i would die of boredom.

I would like to go back in time for a while: take a walk around, try the food of that time and all that.
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Exhumatika said:
_no easy access to porn


People had a lot more sex in the 1980s, though.
Also, what is considered sexual harassment today was normal behavior back then.

Kinda understandable. Without easy porn access everyone has to be horny all the time.
TransferUser said:
People had a lot more sex in the 1980s, though.

I think that maybe the more we move towards modern lifestyle the less intercourse/kids people have.
Farming is like the one proffesion associated with 'old times' and statistically farmers have the most intercourse out of all the proffesions.

And 80s had more child births (US statistics)
The average for first childbirth in the 80s was around 23 whereas now its around 27.
People just have more stuff to focus on and work for now before all that.
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These only two should've been and should've stayed that way; the world would've been in better shape than it is now.

How so?

You mistaken me for Western media, especially Western media of the 90s.

If you mean news media, all of them around the world lie...but the media of freer nations is objectively more honest than the media of less free nations.
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They might even feel relieved back then.
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Why does it matter when we get Near Term Human Extinction soon enough?
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If they lived in the 80s they'd be gen x and not z.
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Forget about smartphones, what in the world are we going to do without the Scrub Daddy?
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Only reason to go back is for low rent, easy stock, cheap food. Arcades exist you can still game. TV still pretty decent.

@Phon1x You are absolutely correct. We Miss all the small things and block out all the bad shit. Personally think even without my trauma I wouldn't miss those days. I had no freedom
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Gen Z/Alpha can barely survive now. With existence being a lot cheaper then they might get along better, especially the ones who aren't smart enough for a degree. Gen alpha doesn't really need to worry about that yet, but most of gen z is either going into college, in college currently, or just finished it and the job market today is tough. Gen z also had to get used to technology advancing around them a lot, so I think they'd be prepared to enter a new environment where things are done differently. I think gen alpha being younger they haven't had as much experience, and they were also born into a world where technology had progressed even further.

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