Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru Darou ka V: Houjou no Megami-hen Episode 9 Discussion

This should have been even better than it was. They nailed the conversation between Horn/Freya/Syr and Bell, but then really dropped the ball at the end with the confrontations between Freya Familia and Loki Familia/Ryuu and others. People are furious at Freya, and Ais shows a lot more passion in the novel than they show here. They insist on making her so incredibly doll like, than even when she shows how she feels, they utterly fail to convey it.

One week delay was worth it I’d say. I mean, Hestia doing something??? Been a while since that lol.

Also been a while since I’ve heard the words “Wargame”. Interested to see how that all will play out.

@Farabeuf I think they could still show what you are saying in the next episode. This episode tried to rap up quickly to get to the "I want a War Game with you Hestia" line.

@ejleon And this Wargame will be the same as the second season, the result will be the same as the last one, I'm not even excited about that.

@Gabrilindo14 I don't read the written material, so please no spoilers, but I will share my perspective on how the next episodes might go.

It won't be the same as the last War Game in the second season.

This War Game is against a completely different familia, the Freya Familia, with a completely different cast of characters facing off against the Hestia Familia, so the strategies and battles are going to be totally different.

The Hestia Familia just leveled up recently, Bell is also due for a level up. I think they will also train even harder for this War Game, especially Bell with Ais, who is not happy at all. And after this whole "charm" event, the entire familia has a huge gigantic chip on their shoulder because of what Freya did to Bell, their familia, their goddess Hestia, and everyone else in the city, so they are really burning up with a fire inside (notice the silly pun 😅), which will definitely play a role in their determination to win.

Plus everyone in the city is going to be rooting for the Hestia Familia to win this time, or they should be, since everyone was affected by Freya's Charm, and they should also lend a helping hand to the Hestia Familia before the War Game, to stick it to the goddess Freya and her entire Familia.

This is why I am excited to see what they are going to show in this War Game arch.

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What you actually mean is that the outcome is going to be "the good guys win" again, but I say "So What!".

I am not going ruin all the fun I can enjoy with his anime by focusing on surface level similarities and complaining that I already know that the good guys are going to win in the end.

This is fiction, not reality and history where the good guys lose sometimes and even die, these stories are purposely made to be like this, because that's what people want to read and watch, ever since the Greek Myths about Hercules overcoming the "impossible trials" and other cultures' stories about their heroes, "the good guys win in the end".

I mean even the original Star Wars Trilogy, which had the Empire Strikes Back, after A New Hope, has the Return of the Jedi, which has the good guys winning in the end, because that's what people want to see happen in fictional stories.

If you want to see a more realistic and historically accurate story, there is at least 6,000 years of recorded human history that can be read at any time, so it couldn't hurt to do some research into historical figures that won and lost, and even died, in their battles.

@Farabeuf I think they could still show what you are saying in the next episode. This episode tried to rap up quickly to get to the "I want a War Game with you Hestia" line.

@ejleon I hope so, but I won't hold my breath. This adaptation consistently underplays Ais role in the story. No wonder so many anime only fans are confused as to what the deal is is with her.

I see, thanks for letting me know.

I understand the “good guys win” is bothering you.

But I am more interested in the climb up to the top of the mountain to win, so to speak, you know, how the writers show them wining the fight.

That I think is the fun part, the ways the writers show them defeating other characters.

Hmm, i really am not dure whether how this will play out will be satisfying to me. I don't exactly have fond memories of the last war game with apollo familia and I know for a fact that they're going to absolutely throw power scaling out of the window again. Let me predict: Hedin (Level 6) is going to have an equal Fight with Aisha and maybe fox girl and someone else. Maybe cat guy from Freya familia (Level 6) will have an equal Fight with welf, that'd make Sense right? I'm getting pretty mad just imagining the bullshit that is coming. Ryuu is perhaps going to Join Hestia familia but that still won't prevent shitty Power-scaling. Also, Hestia is as annoying as ever, like come on, give it 5 more minutes and Bell would've convinced Freya he can save her. Additionally, why can't Bell just be a little bit more vocal with His intentions. Hestia and the Rest of Orario obviously don't intend to save Freya so how will you save her by staying silent?

@ejleon It's not a question of being a spoiler, I haven't even read the novel either, but it's going to be the same result, there won't be a big challenge for the Hestia family.