Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
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Reply to Sigmar-Unberogen
@newluminous Thank god someone sane appeared in this thread. I was losing hope. Thanks again, that info helped.
Anyways...
With all that considered, what if Emilia dies for instance? Subaru will 100% have no other choice but to reset yes? But what if he faces someone crazy (and they're always all crazy) who refuses to finish him off, or what if there's no guarantee he'll bleed out or die on his own; there's even possibility of him passing out after inaction and then getting rescued. Wouldn't it make sense for Subaru to be ready (just in case) for such worst case scenarios? By having some strong poison on him at all times or I don't know, some trinket or whatever that can help him to die, he can at least save Emilia in different timeline, instead of losing that opportunity entirely due to reset-point shift? Doesn't that make sense? If he survives in "failed timeline" and reset point shifts where going back in time "doesn't really matter" (for instance since Emilia can no longer be saved) Subaru will indeed just break. I bet then he'll regret not thinking things through enough. What do you think?
newluminous said:
When he dies he just goes to the past of a new timeline.
I completely forgot about timeline change and remembered it as just going back in time. Fanatics assume everyone injects re:zero in their veins on daily basis or something. Like I should have remembered this. Years have passed, I have other things to do. I honestly forgot, jeez...When he dies he just goes to the past of a new timeline.
Anyways...
With all that considered, what if Emilia dies for instance? Subaru will 100% have no other choice but to reset yes? But what if he faces someone crazy (and they're always all crazy) who refuses to finish him off, or what if there's no guarantee he'll bleed out or die on his own; there's even possibility of him passing out after inaction and then getting rescued. Wouldn't it make sense for Subaru to be ready (just in case) for such worst case scenarios? By having some strong poison on him at all times or I don't know, some trinket or whatever that can help him to die, he can at least save Emilia in different timeline, instead of losing that opportunity entirely due to reset-point shift? Doesn't that make sense? If he survives in "failed timeline" and reset point shifts where going back in time "doesn't really matter" (for instance since Emilia can no longer be saved) Subaru will indeed just break. I bet then he'll regret not thinking things through enough. What do you think?
| @Sigmar-Unberogen Sigmar-Unberogen said: You're welcome. Despite knowing myself I'm not the best source to ask info from, I tried to help because you didn't strike me as someone who would argue in bad faith and some Re:Zero elitists refused to be helpful when we need them the most.Thank god someone sane appeared in this thread. Sigmar-Unberogen said: Tbf I understand they have to deal with trolls & rage baiters on a weekly basis but it doesn't excuse them for mocking others for misremembering/not knowing every single detail in this series. Re:Zero is so convoluted and the 4-year gaps between seasons didn't help. Not everyone holds Re:Zero books like they're Bible. I have seen even the LN readers argued among themselves about the Witch Factor lol. Having said that, one of the things you forgot was a major plot point so maybe before a new season you should watch recap videos to refresh your memory and only ask for the nitty-gritty details later. They're not that long and would do wonders for your experience.Fanatics assume everyone injects re:zero in their veins on daily basis or something. I honestly agree with most of what you said. Sigmar-Unberogen said: I have no doubt in my mind that if anyone from Emilia camp especially Emilia herself dies, Subaru would expect a reset.what if Emilia dies for instance? Subaru will 100% have no other choice but to reset yes? Sigmar-Unberogen said: The reset-point shift was introduced to create tension to the story and also incentivize him to spam RbD at any inconvenience. The story writes itself to a dilemma where either he f around too long and ends up looking stupid when horrible events get set in stone, or he throws away his lives and loses his humanity in the process. Now that his mentality in ss2 got corrected, the risk is still there. The only difference is that now he treats every life he has as his one and only chance and makes sure he doesn't have to face with such dilemma. It's idealistic and "greedy" as Roswaal and Edchina called him out but it's still a better mentality than expecting the worst. How can you give it your best shot when you're ready to give up from the very beginning right?If he survives in "failed timeline" and reset point shifts where going back in time "doesn't really matter" (for instance since Emilia can no longer be saved) Subaru will indeed just break. Sigmar-Unberogen said: The dude already attempted to bite off his tongue TWICE in ss2. I don't think Subaru at this point even needs strong poison for a quick suicide if he really wants to. Problem is preparing something like that is like bringing cheat sheets to the exams. Yes pragmatically it makes sense but that also means subconsciously you don't really believe in yourself and aren't 100% determined.Wouldn't it make sense for Subaru to be ready (just in case) for such worst case scenarios? By having some strong poison on him at all times or I don't know, some trinket or whatever that can help him to die All in all it boils down to how many sacrifices he's willing to take before it reaches the tipping point where he has to put some important lives above his own. For now the current situation hasn't been a lost cause to him yet it seems. Let's see how long he can get away with his hopefulness. |
newluminousNov 2, 7:51 AM
| @newluminous Thanks again. Thankfully several other people also came out and explained it to me so things are much clearer now. Cheers! |
| The show name should become as Subaru Sufferings |
| As much as i agree animation and voice acting is great... Events are NUUH IM GETTING EMOTIONAL DAMAGE HERE, especially 4th and 5th ep, i need Subaru to reset and prepare a better plan! I was getting more and more nervous with every minute 😭 Anyway i wonder who is the dragon couse it seemed to recognise Subaru and Crush and man, i definitely wont enjoy Capella, she may be pretty, but she scares me. Poor Garf keep see that assasin lady, i wonder if its actually just him feeling guilty somehow of not being strong enough or she does hunt him... At least Otto is fine, i was worried ab him, i hope they will be able to help somehow with Reinhard. Anastasia and Kiritaca interaction was kinda cute? Im praying Juli is fine too, i dont feel comfortable with gluttony person on screen either and Regulus... dont get me started on how disgusting the virgin question was, i hated him from start, but now i want him to be gone even more, poor Emilia, someone please save her from the creep. Actually smn please save them all from those bishop creeps 😭😭 they are too powerful, im suffering watching this, but i wont stop as i need to know how the series ends, im too deep to drop... cliff hangers are butt, but what can i do, will need just wait for more. (Thanks for comeing to my ted talk, nothing important was said, but yeah, congratulations reading my thoughts till the end or something, i needed it off chest, i feel uneasy) |
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| Subaru is in some deep sh*t this time. Wait. That's not unusual. How far he is going without dying is tho. |
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| I can't believe this is still one active loop. In the past, Subaru would have died a long time ago from so much damage and other crap. |
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| Another incredible episode. This adaptation has been absolutely fantastic. The direction has been superb and storyboards are just as good. The animation flows smoothly throughout the entire runtime of these episodes. All of them have been amazing. Subaru and almost the entire city is in trouble. I think it's finally time for Subaru to re-do these things and not mess up this time. |
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| Aoi Yuuki just knocks it out of the park. With Tanya and Mami under her belt, Capella feels like she was literally written for her. Damn, Youjo Senki's S2 can't come sooner. |
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| Man, what a return to form this season has been so far. |
| Yuuki Aoi voicing another crazy bitch. Not quite as crazy as some other characters but still. Her character design is good though. Surprised Subaru hasn't gone through return by death even after all that. Makes me wonder if someone from the main side characters will permanently die this time but still doubt it. Also another thing I don't get is why is Emilia just sitting there and doing nothing except acting shocked? She was fighting before getting kidnapped just fine. |
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@MegamiRem Like Subaru, she realized Regulus was a very dangerous and powerful person. She's not the type to break her cool in tense situations like this but rather evaluate the situation. Emilia was filled with doubt and resistance, but at the same time, her instincts were telling her not to openly defy this man, that Regulus Corneas possessed great power. A horrifyingly vast amount of power. |
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Reply to Laplace_kun
@MegamiRem Like Subaru, she realized Regulus was a very dangerous and powerful person. She's not the type to break her cool in tense situations like this but rather evaluate the situation.
Emilia was filled with doubt and resistance, but at the same time, her instincts were telling her not to openly defy this man, that Regulus Corneas possessed great power. A horrifyingly vast amount of power.
| @Laplace_kun Makes sense. Scenes like this doesn't translate well into adaptations as there are no narration/monologue so we can't be sure what's going through the character's mind. It looked like Emilia looked bewildered from the bizarre situation she found herself in with a barrage of offputting questions which left her dumbfounded. But it can also be interpreted in the way you mentioned. |
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| @MegamiRem Well you can guess it from the "unsettled" reaction Emilia gave off after Regulus touched her hair. Then she compared him with a cruel king of sorts. But anyway, the adaptation makes these things way too subtle for the casual viewer - meaning many things in S2 might have went over their heads. Fortunately this particular arc won't make you try to understand things like "Satella doesn't wear a veil, it's Subaru's mental rejection of her that puts the veil on her" without telling shit. |
| "All truth is meaningless. In the end, 'meaning' comes from the mind of each individual human. Even when there is a single truth, it can mean different things to different individuals. The truth has no meaning in itself!" - Erika Furudo |
Reply to Laplace_kun
@MegamiRem Well you can guess it from the "unsettled" reaction Emilia gave off after Regulus touched her hair. Then she compared him with a cruel king of sorts.
But anyway, the adaptation makes these things way too subtle for the casual viewer - meaning many things in S2 might have went over their heads. Fortunately this particular arc won't make you try to understand things like "Satella doesn't wear a veil, it's Subaru's mental rejection of her that puts the veil on her" without telling shit.
But anyway, the adaptation makes these things way too subtle for the casual viewer - meaning many things in S2 might have went over their heads. Fortunately this particular arc won't make you try to understand things like "Satella doesn't wear a veil, it's Subaru's mental rejection of her that puts the veil on her" without telling shit.
Laplace_kun said: Think most people would interpret that as her being creeped out by him in that situation. "Naked in bed while a random guy getting in her personal space and touching her."Well you can guess it from the "unsettled" reaction Emilia gave off after Regulus touched her hair. Laplace_kun said: That's norm for most novel/light novel adaptations. Whether be it anime or other media. Adaptation skims over many things and also doesn't include the side info needed or can't a lot of times.But anyway, the adaptation makes these things way too subtle for the casual viewer - meaning many things in S2 might have went over their heads. |
MegamiRemNov 5, 3:50 AM
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| @MegamiRem well it's more of the little details: she didn't look exactly embarrassed, nor did she put up her guard. Notice how Rie simply talks slower and the character avoids eye contact. |
| "All truth is meaningless. In the end, 'meaning' comes from the mind of each individual human. Even when there is a single truth, it can mean different things to different individuals. The truth has no meaning in itself!" - Erika Furudo |
Reply to Laplace_kun
@MegamiRem well it's more of the little details: she didn't look exactly embarrassed, nor did she put up her guard. Notice how Rie simply talks slower and the character avoids eye contact.
| @Laplace_kun Don't think anyone creeped out would act embarrassed there in that situation, not even Emilia but anyway don't want to further continue this convo. |
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| Capella is even more evil than I thought. Turning the town folks into flies is absolutely bloody diabolical. Who the hell does she think she is? Beelzebub!?? And how dare she step on Crusch that way!! It got me all hot and bothered. Poor Subaru, he lost his leg and is now drowning. This couldn't be even more worse. All hell breaks loose on the city of Pristella. The Watergate breaks and floods the city. Noah's arc has arrived early. |
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| Even if you didn't know that it was an ancient trap - building a city in a whole in a lake was quite the move... The city being held hostage is a carbon copy of S2's situation with Rosvaal manor's villagers. |
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| Emilia being Regulus's 79th wife and treated by the other wives in his place...it's the definition of a pure virgin soul, but also that tiem is not of the essence for Subaru and the rest. For both Subaru and Crusch to get ambushed by Capella, he has definitely learnt within a split second of how difficult it is to deal with her, and that he has no slim chance of ever defeating her in this present state. Turning ordinary people into flies, Capella is one unknown entity that she can do whatever she pleases. Back in the city landscape, Anastasia almost getting ambushed by Sirius, it's only thanks to Kiritaka that he managed to escort her to safety. And where Toto lands in Felt and Reinhard's place, Priestella begins flooding... Is there any hope to save Priestella as it is? |
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| Well Capella's shapeshifting is going to give Subaru some bad nightmares, if he somehow didn't have those already. Excellent scene done justice by Capella and Emilia's voice actresses. Heinkel sure deserved that bottle being cracked over his head by Felt. The city's undergoing a major disaster and he's over here being a hindrance! What an exasperating fellow. |
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| Emilia naked in bed meanwhile subaru thinking about rem kek |
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