Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
DO NOT discuss the source material beyond this episode. If you want to discuss future events or theories, please use separate threads.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
| 90 minutes with most of this being exposition, I'm glad we have that out of the way, and can get into the action of this arc. Subaru has a lot of work on his plate in order to deal with not 1 but at least 2 archbishops, including Regulus who they bumped into who we know is quite OP. Surely with the help of Reinhard things will be fine. |
Reply to Yang_Wenli
9.01 for this? Are rezero fans okay in the head? This is what they consider the peak of the series? A 90 minute fanservice reunion special where nothing happens except the last five minutes?
It was smart of them to merge the first four episodes into a single special. Just imagine if you had to sit through FOUR weeks of nothing happening except old characters getting together and Subaru acting like insufferable cringelord. This would have been the absolute low point of the series, yet people rated it higher than any other rezero season or movie.
It was smart of them to merge the first four episodes into a single special. Just imagine if you had to sit through FOUR weeks of nothing happening except old characters getting together and Subaru acting like insufferable cringelord. This would have been the absolute low point of the series, yet people rated it higher than any other rezero season or movie.
| @Yang_Wenli We can't really do much since this series has so many fanboys here who rate anything even closely related to Re:Zero with 10/10, no matter the quality. Even worse, they feel like everyone else who dares to criticize their favorite show are obvious haters and they also act haughty to anyone who didn't read the novel. I mean I like this series but not to the point I would be uncritical to it as it also has it share of flaws. Credit where credit is due. S2 and both movies was actually pretty good (a lot better than S1). But that's exactly why I was disappointed here because I had some expectations which certainly weren't met. I mean, I know I would be disappointed if I saw this episode in theatre. It pales greatly in comparison with, for example, Memory Snow which also had the same slice-of-life focus but still managed to deliver enjoyable self-contained story and still dropped some serious foreshadowing. I know I will rate some episodes higher if they get better. But by rating 10/10 right now those fans are basically saying that as long it's Re:Zero it doesn't matter how good or bad each episode is. It also means there is no room for improvement in their eyes. All the people who are singing the unconditional praise here - imagine if they would cut last five minutes - would you still rate it the same? tl;dr: Current high-scores on this season are nothing but hype. --------------------------------------------------------------- On completely unrelated note - I still don't understand why Garfiel's supposed mother is calling her daughter onee-chan. Even if she has obviously lost her memories of him it makes no sense to call her own child that, right? (and subs even put her name in instead, even though it wasn't even mentioned in the original). I can imagine very specific situation in japanese when mother would call her daughter like that (as in, replying to overheard topic) but she actually addressed Rafiel here in this scene, otherwise she wouldn't be asking a question whether Fred already came back or not in the first place.  |
| is this first episode only or 3 episodes combined? |
Reply to shuffle_017
is this first episode only or 3 episodes combined?
| @shuffle_017 first episode only |
 |
Reply to Pulkit200
@shuffle_017 first episode only
| @Pulkit200 noted, thanks! |
Reply to Mich666
@Yang_Wenli We can't really do much since this series has so many fanboys here who rate anything even closely related to Re:Zero with 10/10, no matter the quality. Even worse, they feel like everyone else who dares to criticize their favorite show are obvious haters and they also act haughty to anyone who didn't read the novel.
I mean I like this series but not to the point I would be uncritical to it as it also has it share of flaws. Credit where credit is due.
S2 and both movies was actually pretty good (a lot better than S1).
But that's exactly why I was disappointed here because I had some expectations which certainly weren't met.
I mean, I know I would be disappointed if I saw this episode in theatre.
It pales greatly in comparison with, for example, Memory Snow which also had the same slice-of-life focus but still managed to deliver enjoyable self-contained story and still dropped some serious foreshadowing.
I know I will rate some episodes higher if they get better.
But by rating 10/10 right now those fans are basically saying that as long it's Re:Zero it doesn't matter how good or bad each episode is.
It also means there is no room for improvement in their eyes.
All the people who are singing the unconditional praise here - imagine if they would cut last five minutes - would you still rate it the same?
tl;dr: Current high-scores on this season are nothing but hype.
---------------------------------------------------------------
On completely unrelated note - I still don't understand why Garfiel's supposed mother is calling her daughter onee-chan. Even if she has obviously lost her memories of him it makes no sense to call her own child that, right? (and subs even put her name in instead, even though it wasn't even mentioned in the original). I can imagine very specific situation in japanese when mother would call her daughter like that (as in, replying to overheard topic) but she actually addressed Rafiel here in this scene, otherwise she wouldn't be asking a question whether Fred already came back or not in the first place.
I mean I like this series but not to the point I would be uncritical to it as it also has it share of flaws. Credit where credit is due.
S2 and both movies was actually pretty good (a lot better than S1).
But that's exactly why I was disappointed here because I had some expectations which certainly weren't met.
I mean, I know I would be disappointed if I saw this episode in theatre.
It pales greatly in comparison with, for example, Memory Snow which also had the same slice-of-life focus but still managed to deliver enjoyable self-contained story and still dropped some serious foreshadowing.
I know I will rate some episodes higher if they get better.
But by rating 10/10 right now those fans are basically saying that as long it's Re:Zero it doesn't matter how good or bad each episode is.
It also means there is no room for improvement in their eyes.
All the people who are singing the unconditional praise here - imagine if they would cut last five minutes - would you still rate it the same?
tl;dr: Current high-scores on this season are nothing but hype.
---------------------------------------------------------------
On completely unrelated note - I still don't understand why Garfiel's supposed mother is calling her daughter onee-chan. Even if she has obviously lost her memories of him it makes no sense to call her own child that, right? (and subs even put her name in instead, even though it wasn't even mentioned in the original). I can imagine very specific situation in japanese when mother would call her daughter like that (as in, replying to overheard topic) but she actually addressed Rafiel here in this scene, otherwise she wouldn't be asking a question whether Fred already came back or not in the first place.
| @Mich666 To be frank I'm not a fan of SoLs and I almost fell asleep while trying to catch every dialogue and detail. I still think I missed some cuz the yapping is crazy. The only part that really grabbed my attention and excited me was the last 10 minutes and I was surprised to see many people rated 10s already which I don't agree with yet. But even so, to say the first 80 minutes were worthless means that person either is disingenuous or watched Re:Zero too passively. As an anime-only, I think this episode reintroduced the cast and the character dynamics pretty well. Reinhard despite being the strongest still has family issues and I like how Felt helped him bounce back. Garfiel struggles with feeling of incompetence and childhood trauma. It seems Anastasia was plotting something here by baiting everyone into coming like how Roswaal pulled the strings behind all events in 2 seasons. It also dropped some crazy lore hints. For example the Japanese inn with modern technologies and the revelation of Hoshin who seemingly influenced the Kararagi by Jap culture for 400 years mean Subaru wasn't the only and earliest one to get isekai-d. It's sus that Hoshin designed the whole city as a trap for something much like how Flugel randomly planted the tree for Subaru to take down the White Whale. I just wished the lore dump wasn't too in-your-face and Subaru didn't directly confirm it. And knowing Re:Zero it won't be utilized until like several seasons later. Still idk how some people here didn't find them strange and just brushed it off as Jap glazing. I feel the first episode is mostly set-up to be resolved in later episodes and I could already see some Chekhov's guns here and there. It isn't meant to be viewed as a self-contained standalone movie in theatre. I hope and trust the payoffs will be worth the snoozefest that is the first 80 minutes. I mean even Steins;Gate first few episodes put me into sleep and made me drop the show twice before I realize how important they are. |
Reply to Mich666
@Yang_Wenli We can't really do much since this series has so many fanboys here who rate anything even closely related to Re:Zero with 10/10, no matter the quality. Even worse, they feel like everyone else who dares to criticize their favorite show are obvious haters and they also act haughty to anyone who didn't read the novel.
I mean I like this series but not to the point I would be uncritical to it as it also has it share of flaws. Credit where credit is due.
S2 and both movies was actually pretty good (a lot better than S1).
But that's exactly why I was disappointed here because I had some expectations which certainly weren't met.
I mean, I know I would be disappointed if I saw this episode in theatre.
It pales greatly in comparison with, for example, Memory Snow which also had the same slice-of-life focus but still managed to deliver enjoyable self-contained story and still dropped some serious foreshadowing.
I know I will rate some episodes higher if they get better.
But by rating 10/10 right now those fans are basically saying that as long it's Re:Zero it doesn't matter how good or bad each episode is.
It also means there is no room for improvement in their eyes.
All the people who are singing the unconditional praise here - imagine if they would cut last five minutes - would you still rate it the same?
tl;dr: Current high-scores on this season are nothing but hype.
---------------------------------------------------------------
On completely unrelated note - I still don't understand why Garfiel's supposed mother is calling her daughter onee-chan. Even if she has obviously lost her memories of him it makes no sense to call her own child that, right? (and subs even put her name in instead, even though it wasn't even mentioned in the original). I can imagine very specific situation in japanese when mother would call her daughter like that (as in, replying to overheard topic) but she actually addressed Rafiel here in this scene, otherwise she wouldn't be asking a question whether Fred already came back or not in the first place.
I mean I like this series but not to the point I would be uncritical to it as it also has it share of flaws. Credit where credit is due.
S2 and both movies was actually pretty good (a lot better than S1).
But that's exactly why I was disappointed here because I had some expectations which certainly weren't met.
I mean, I know I would be disappointed if I saw this episode in theatre.
It pales greatly in comparison with, for example, Memory Snow which also had the same slice-of-life focus but still managed to deliver enjoyable self-contained story and still dropped some serious foreshadowing.
I know I will rate some episodes higher if they get better.
But by rating 10/10 right now those fans are basically saying that as long it's Re:Zero it doesn't matter how good or bad each episode is.
It also means there is no room for improvement in their eyes.
All the people who are singing the unconditional praise here - imagine if they would cut last five minutes - would you still rate it the same?
tl;dr: Current high-scores on this season are nothing but hype.
---------------------------------------------------------------
On completely unrelated note - I still don't understand why Garfiel's supposed mother is calling her daughter onee-chan. Even if she has obviously lost her memories of him it makes no sense to call her own child that, right? (and subs even put her name in instead, even though it wasn't even mentioned in the original). I can imagine very specific situation in japanese when mother would call her daughter like that (as in, replying to overheard topic) but she actually addressed Rafiel here in this scene, otherwise she wouldn't be asking a question whether Fred already came back or not in the first place.
| @Mich666 The version I watched on Muse translated it as "Dear". I think instead of calling her daughter by name the mother used "onee-chan" as an alternative way to address her older child of the sibling. Similarly, a few second earlier Garfiel calling Rafiel "nee-chan" doesn't mean Garfiel called his own sister or he thought Rafiel is older than him. After all in Japanese the identification of the subject and the objects in a sentence depends heavily on the context. |
| Every scene while the sun was setting had me tense thinking something was going to happen, but instead it happens in broad daylight in front a huge crowd of happy people. Fantastic first ep. Brilliant move to make the first episode a triple one so it could end after such an intense scene. Can't wait for next week! |
| Tbh I didn't quite get about half of the episode, all that talking about relationships between people went completely over my head. At least finally in the end he jumped back in time and now the actual season can start I hope. |
Reply to newluminous
@Mich666 The version I watched on Muse translated it as "Dear". I think instead of calling her daughter by name the mother used "onee-chan" as an alternative way to address her older child of the sibling. Similarly, a few second earlier Garfiel calling Rafiel "nee-chan" doesn't mean Garfiel called his own sister or he thought Rafiel is older than him. After all in Japanese the identification of the subject and the objects in a sentence depends heavily on the context.
| @newluminous Yeah, saying "Dear" would be probably the best in this situation. I also understand why Garfiel was calling her nee-chan as those honorifics are generally used to address strangers younger/older than you (generally if their name is unknown). Or he could call her nee-chan as person related to her younger brother he was bringing home. But the problem here is not with translation but rather with how her mother addressed her in the original japanese since: a) she's her mother so she would know her name and would address her directly by Rafiel or Rafiel-chan or Rafi-chan. b) Rafiel certainly isn't her sister as she is obviously her mother so calling her onee-chan is really weird. c) she didn't know Fred was back until she came out (which is why she was asking the question) so in that case she definitely wouldn't address Rafiel as "(Fred's) sister" (which would be gramatically correct otherwise as unspoken part could be implied from her question). Anyway, I might be nitpicking here but this seems like a mistake happened sometime during the production. Not sure how she addressed her in the novel. |
Mich666Oct 6, 9:03 AM
| Betty is back...I suppose. |
| "The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there." "Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life." |
Reply to Dragloncon
arc 5 is a dip in quality compared to the previous arcs
@Anayan_Kashyap what in gods name are you talking about arc 5 is better than 1-3 combined
| @Dragloncon not better than arc 3. You like it because of the action maybe. But arc 3 is definitely on top 3 of Re:Zero arcs. This is where It stands for me........I had a hard time Enjoying Arc 5, just after a Masterful arc 4......but I did enjoy it, it was just not the best.(Arc6>Arc4>Arc3>Arc8>Arc5>Arc7>Arc2>Arc1) |
| WISHED I COULD ALSO GET TRANSPORTED TO A WORLD FULL OF MAGIC And DUNGEONS, please take me there too if you could ( ◜‿◝ )♡ |
Reply to Anayan_Kashyap
@Dragloncon not better than arc 3. You like it because of the action maybe. But arc 3 is definitely on top 3 of Re:Zero arcs. This is where It stands for me........I had a hard time Enjoying Arc 5, just after a Masterful arc 4......but I did enjoy it, it was just not the best.(Arc6>Arc4>Arc3>Arc8>Arc5>Arc7>Arc2>Arc1)
| @Anayan_Kashyap Arc 3 is butchered in the anime therefore Arc 5 anime will be much better. |
G.O.A.T Twitter Account: https://x.com/Okeanix1 |
Reply to Okeanix
@Anayan_Kashyap Arc 3 is butchered in the anime therefore Arc 5 anime will be much better.
| @Okeanix even tho I'm a web movel reader, I will always argue that Re:Zero anime is a PERFECT LIGHT NOVEL ADAPTATION (apart from 86), you can't ask for anymore. I was satisfied with what was being served. They did the BEST MOMENTS JUSTICE. Feel free to hate on yourself. Re:Zero. Arc 3 adaptation was still on point for me. Also, the story will exactly remain the same in arc 5. Not a big fan of fights, I like re:zero for it's narrative and introspection of the characters and their dynamics. Beautifully shown in arc 3. Arc 5 surely expands the story, but lacks the Depth that Arc 3,4 & 6 has. |
| WISHED I COULD ALSO GET TRANSPORTED TO A WORLD FULL OF MAGIC And DUNGEONS, please take me there too if you could ( ◜‿◝ )♡ |
More topics from this board
» Emilia is uselesszx1234yousif - Yesterday |
27 |
by literallyeurope
»»
1 hour ago |
|
» MAL should separate the arcs into two entriesSoZLuka - Nov 21 |
29 |
by Mdraj6996
»»
2 hours ago |
|
Poll: » Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu 3rd Season Episode 8 Discussion ( 1 2 3 )IzanaSolos - Nov 20 |
147 |
by Stefanlovesanime
»»
5 hours ago |
|
» THAT was a mid-season finale? WTF ( 1 2 )MyllerPhiem - Nov 24 |
55 |
by Merve2Love
»»
6 hours ago |
|
Poll: » Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu 3rd Season Episode 4 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 )Stark700 - Oct 23 |
226 |
by ssafin
»»
8 hours ago |