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Wasn't too happy with the CGI in this episode, but I understand why it was used. Just wasn't as impressed with animation and style choices as I was in earlier episodes.
Still had an enjoyable time watching it. The actor dog was super funny and I just love the kids, they are great characters. Although Tokiyuki is one weird child, lmao
All the weird eye stuff happening tho, eww xD
(Also I really wish they wouldn't try to push any romance/shipping, those children are only 8 ffs...)
"The closer you get to the light the greater your shadow becomes."
The competition is going strong and the eye guy is leading with four points right now. Looks like Tokiyuki will have to put up some work against him. Can't wait to see that. The CG wasn't bad but it just didn't fit well against all the amazing animation throughout the show.
Takauji Ashikaga has the spirit of JJK's Sukuna, if anything, his multiple eyes are a menace.
Tokiyuki...is just a lost cause trying to learn swordsmanship. But while that's happening, Yorushige gets a word from Emperor Godaigo's appointed Sadamune Ogasawara that he's in control of even the Suwa clan and its territory, which his rather "perfect" eyesight managing to catch a glimpse of Tokiyuki, it's a given because he's an expert archer, who's now the governor of Shinano. Even at such a time as this, Tokiyuki being able to praise Sadamune's archery, Yorushige takes the chance to issue a challenge to him to avoid his arrows, more than his literate eye-piercing gaze.
The dog-shooting competition is a literate show affair for Sadamune who jumps in without a warrant to showcase his archery skills, though Yorushige has a hilarious 4th wall breaking moment where animal slavery of events like this are not allowed in the modern day, much less the 3DCG used on the dogs and the horseback moments. Nevertheless, Yorushige hinges all his bets on Tokiyuki (parading as Chojumaru) since he can learn a thing or 2 against Sadamune, and the latter takes the challenge head on, knowing that Sadamune will try all he can to land a hit on Tokiyuki. Moritaka's commentary only adds to the hilarity, though Sadamune eventually lands a hit on Tokiyuki, earning him 5 points.
I liked this episode, but I was hoping this conflict would wrap up this week and not be spread to two episodes. It’s fine though. This one really solidified my interest in the story as a whole. We saw Takauji again and have some actual motivations from the antagonists. And the eyeball from him. Very weird stuff. Can’t wait to see what happens.
i can put the cgi past it for what the humour is + rest of the art is, theres some really unsettling moments like the eyes but i think thts what makes it unique from every other show this season (or dare i say most series). theres some rly awesome sakuga shots of the people that caught my eye much more than cgi horses lol
I keeping telling this, this is one of the best shows this season and underrated one to .. u know a ep is so good that when it finishes u want to see more of it(that was the case for me),and the comedy timing is also making sense now the only flaw I will kinda have is the cgi animation but it's like a needle in the bush it can be ignored if u have such good animation and story... really looking forward to the next ep...
And one other thing is how beautiful the expression of angry, gread and other emotions are show in this anime.. it creeps u out and make u feel uneasy (it did for me) but also make u smile with a comdey scene just after not so much anime can do that..
This is one of the best ED theme that I’ve ever seen. After Kajiu no.8, the next best ED theme is this, it’s just too amazing and relaxing. It gives me Jujutsu Kaisen vibes:)
Tokiyuki has great troubles now. He is facing Sadamune in the dog-shooting competition and both of them are giving their best to win, but it seemed that Sadamune won the competition. Maybe Tokiyuki comes with a great plan and is willing to defeat him in order to get revenge.
Tokiyuki has great archery skills, if he improved him even more, he would be the best archer, even better than Sadamune and everyone. Yorishige and others are proud.
Tokiyuki wants to master archery, even though he was almost killed trying. It’s clear that while he’s great at escaping, he still has a lot to learn about fighting techniques.
The animation was bad, the use of CGI was very noticeable and felt very robotic, which shouldn’t matter, but honestly, it did. I hope it’s just this episode and the animation returns to the level of the first three episodes because, aside from the CGI, it was a good episode.
I just checked his profile, how has he/she watched 400+ anime and has a mean score under 3? Either it's bad luck or just stupidity. I'm inclined on the latter.
Another solid episode. Sawa was actually toned down for much of the episode so we could appreciate his cunning and strategy a little without him derailing everything with endless obnoxious jokes. It was a little odd after it being established Tokiyuki was a goof off who didn't take anything seriously that oh by the way he's actually an accomplished archer. And we already saw him behead a grown man but now he's too feeble to slice up a wood target. I'm willing to roll with it for cool archery scenes and because it'll fit his evasive style, but seemed like it abandoned its own continuity for convenience.
I like Sadamune: ruthless, skilled, and gives new meaning to the word bug-eyed. At times it got a little silly but overall I thought it was effectively off-putting. Ashikaga's own eyes within eyes when his humanity was questioned was a neat visual. I'm curious how literal we're supposed to take these inhuman features. I'd kind of wonder if they're possessed or something, but then again Tokiyuki's uncle had some pretty wild, over the top facial expressions and he was very human. Maybe it's all just style and not to be read into.
Curious to see how everything plays out in the next episode. It'd be a short show if Tokiyuki didn't rise to the occasion, but Sadamune doesn't seem like the kind of guy you can expect to live up to his end of the bargain. And if you kill him so soon after being given control of the province that'd just create suspicion and invite reprisal.
@VanVeleca Good for you I guess, not trying to take anything personally lol. It is what it is.
@animejas Some people need to learn to not be so fragile when there's differing opinions or if they can't there's the ignore feature. It's actually kind of funny because your posts are always thoughtful and well-written, even when I disagree with them, so these reactions feel especially over the top and out of left field. Maybe they have you mixed up with another animejas who's just being a trolling debbie downer.
Sadamune is so viscerally disturbing and ugly to look at, but he's also kind of fun to watch (just like the show itself, I guess). His voice sounds amazing when he's not screeching or being weird, and it turns out he's the Narrator from Kaguya-sama.
The storyline feels like it's coasting, when it hasn't really earned it. The animation team seems to be resting on their laurels as well. Hope the archery competition wraps up nicely next week and manages to hold my attention.
Sadamune is so viscerally disturbing and ugly to look at, but he's also kind of fun to watch (just like the show itself, I guess). His voice sounds amazing when he's not screeching or being weird, and it turns out he's the Narrator from Kaguya-sama.
The storyline feels like it's coasting, when it hasn't really earned it. The animation team seems to be resting on their laurels as well. Hope the archery competition wraps up nicely next week and manages to hold my attention.
Ehh I disagree, I think the story was set up well in terms of it being an adventure, getting more allies, and training at a decent pace to fight the main antagonist. I'm not sure what you mean by "It hasn't really earned it". Animation was great overall other than the inconsistent archer fight bit but even with that the CGI wasn't bad.
Ehh I disagree, I think the story was set up well in terms of it being an adventure, getting more allies, and training at a decent pace to fight the main antagonist. I'm not sure what you mean by "It hasn't really earned it". Animation was great overall other than the inconsistent archer fight bit but even with that the CGI wasn't bad.
@GrimLegend Yes the story was "set up," but for me, only on paper; I'm still not emotionally invested in the story, and I don't find the characters even that likable. It might be a "me problem," but I think some of the blame lies with the show, with constant interruptions from the over-the-top comedy and off-putting visuals.
The archery competition seems like a fun story bit, but it feels like it came too early. The show seems to be assuming that I'm already in love with these characters and just want to see them defeat the "villain of the week," but I was finding myself not really caring what happens to Tokiyuki.
Maybe the archery competition will conclude in an unexpected and satisfying way. Maybe the show is not a dramatic, desperate race to defeat Ashikaga, but more a slice-of-life about remaining hidden and fighting off goons. I still can't quite figure out this show, but it is fun to look at, so I'm sticking around.
Hah bro what’s with the eyes in this show being so goddamn extra😭
The way bros nose squished in Yorishige’s nose made me burst out laughing bc of how stupid it was like this show be serious then the comedy hits out of the blue and it’s just funny yk🤣
Tokiyuki dodging a train when he has no clue and idea of what a train is is funny to me LMAO
The cgi was bad in this episode if anything it was actually pretty decent it was hard on the eyes whatsoever, good job Cloverworks🔥🙌🏽
Can’t wait to see next episode and how our boy Tokiyuki is gonna handle this :D
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So the emperor is never actually shown I assume, this goes with the tradition that most anime never show or even mention the emperor, at least for anime set in modern day Japan, they never talk about the current emperor...
This show is trying to be the new Kakegurui in terms of weird facial reactions or not?
@MadanielFL This applies only to the current emperor and his close relatives. Medieval emperors are shown quite openly, compare with Heike Monogatari.
The Japanese imperial lineage is said to be continuous, but at the very time of the Tokiyuki, the lineage of emperors was divided into two.
The system in which a reigning emperor takes refuge in Buddhism and exerts substantial control over the imperial court even after he retires from the imperial throne is called "Insei," monastery administration.
In the pre-title of episode 4, the hidden noble watching from behind the bamboo screen was Emperor Godaigo.
His great-grandfather Emperor Gosaga transferred the imperial throne to his young sons and their children (his grandchildren) one after another as he entered the Insei regime, and finally died without designating a successor. All he left behind was an order that the next emperor should be selected by the approval of the Kamakura Shogunate.
As a neutral party, the Kamakura Shogunate mediated between the two parties and had been alternating the accession of emperors belong to each. In a while, each party increased pressure on the Shogunate to quickly bring about the era of the emperor they support.
Emperor Godaigo was regarded as a short-time successor to the next generation. As his own descendants were forced to renounce the throne, Godaigo was not treated seriously by both parties to the Court. But he was a authority with ability to conceive of a rational political system and a sense of mission to save the common people by his way, while he was unable to accept the circumstances imposed on him by others. Those who he had a personal relationship through scholarship, the arts, and faith, as well as those from lower families with strong upward ambitions served him.
To gain a free hand, Emperor Godaigo set out to overthrow the Kamakura Shogunate by force. However, two coups d'état were planned, both of which failed due to tip-offs, and he lost his princes and entourage. The Shogunate, which had not punished Godaigo himself in the first coup attempt, arrested him, exiled him to an island, and declared that he would be deposed. Godaigo's hatred for the Kamakura Shogunate grew even stronger.
The remaining Imperial Court was in turmoil, and the political balance of the court deadlocked the effort toward settlement. Furthermore, the guerrilla activities of the remnants of Godaigo's party expanded from confrontations in the court to local rebellions in wide western Japan, where Godaigo himself joined them after escaping from the island.
Ashikaga Takauji was the war general of a group of warriors dispatched by the Kamakura Shogunate to suppress the rebellion. There, Takauji abandoned the Shogunate and formed an alliance with Godaigo. The shogunate collapsed at once after the defection of Takauji, a highly respected military commander.
The mastermind behind the overthrow of the Kamakura Shogunate was the person watching from the other side of that curtain.
This tale starts at this point (AD 1333).
This work is based on actual history, so events beyond this point are not spoilers, but I'd take care.
In later periods, the relationship between the returned, direct-ruling Emperor Godaigo and Ashikaga Takauji broke down (actually, this fate is related to operational behavior by Houjou Tokiyuki).
Emperor Godaigo fled Kyoto and declared a new reign in Yoshino, locating the south from Kyoto (AD 1337). Takauji founds the Muromachi Shogunate, the next samurai government after the Kamakura Shogunate, and enthrones another emperor in Kyoto.
Each Emperor claimed to be legitimate, and clashes among the supporting warrior clans led to a civil war that lasted more than half a century.
It was in such a period that Tokiyuki took action.
I just checked his profile, how has he/she watched 400+ anime and has a mean score under 3? Either it's bad luck or just stupidity. I'm inclined on the latter.
Dan_ALves said: I just checked his profile, how has he/she watched 400+ anime and has a mean score under 3? Either it's bad luck or just stupidity. I'm inclined on the latter.
You missed a zero.
That's no reason to directly attack someone personally though.
The eye caught me off guard. It looks so nasty like damn.
Ogasawara needs to blink, I feel like his eyes might pop any minute.
Now who decided to use dogs as targets
The eye caught me off guard. It looks so nasty like damn.
Ogasawara needs to blink, I feel like his eyes might pop any minute.
Now who decided to use dogs as targets
The article also refer to actual Ogasawara Sadamune, the founding father of a major archery tradition up to present and who is portrayed in this show as the bug-eyed guy.
The article also refer to actual Ogasawara Sadamune, the founding father of a major archery tradition up to present and who is portrayed in this show as the bug-eyed guy.
Honestly, we all knew it was too good to be true that the show would have kept episode 1's animation quality all the way through but I would have never expected the show to fall off THIS QUICKLY. This thread is absolutely filled to the brim with cope posts "Yeah they used CGI but... It wasn't that bad!". Granted, I do agree they did a nice job with the characters 3D models, they look pretty convincing standing still but holy hell the second they start moving the animation in itself was miserable garbage, negative visual direction, most boring and flat camera angles, no fluidity, no movement, it was complete absolute ASS and it took at least 1 quarter of the episode. What a fall from grace especially in terms of pure visual ideas compared to what we've seen earlier in the show, it almost feel like we got scammed.
That said, I'm glad Monogatari Off-season therefore takes the crown as the objectively best looking anime of this season by a landslide because Elusive Samurai was the clear winner with its spectular first 2 episodes until this mess.
That man was actually conversing with his "eyes"...
Very quirky characters, but yeah, that's nothing new for this series. I'd actually really like if Tokiyuki somehow successfully deals with this creep, so for us to not see him again. Also, people see CG and act like it's the worst thing for no good reason lol.
Big NO episode.
Not the dog hunt, please. Not the awful cgi either. Also not into 4th wall breaks. And lastly, nooo to the vicious villain's eyeballs 💀
No wonder I'm not liking the humour, I had no idea the manga is by Neuro's author lol. Guess I will not watch Assassination Classroom anytime soon.
Yorishigay really enjoys putting Tokiyuki in deadly situations, but our shota samurai - despite his initial doubts - always ends up having fun (and winning), so... it's alright I guess?
Okay that Sadamune guy is actually scary with his vision, he managed to shoot MC despite his very high dodging skills... also this dog shooting game is awful :S
Sadamune is an interesting character. He would look right at home in Berserk with some different clothing. This show does an interesting job at showing the supernatural but keeping the audience guessing about it. That scene with the multiple eyes was crazy though! I was put off by Tokiyuki winning, even with a good plan, but then he didn't. Wow! On the other hand, what the heck are "running away muscles?" That whole scene made no sense unless there's some kind of Confucianist idea behind that. Hmmm... Also, that scene about getting canceled was sort of funny but left kind of a bad taste in my mouth.
AiraKT said: (Also I really wish they wouldn't try to push any romance/shipping, those children are only 8 ffs...)