The Official Berserk manga account makes a statement about the unauthorized Studio Eclypse's Berserk fan made anime project, by using the copyright without the permissions of Kentaro Miura's Berserk, Studio Gaga and Hakusensha.
https://x.com/berserk_project/status/1833723774388330498 To our readers The production of a Berserk animation is being announced on the following X account (https://x.com/studio_eclypse) and website (https://www.studio-eclypse.com), but such production has not been authorized by Miura Kentarou (Studio Gaga), the copyright holder. In addition, the videos accompanying the announcements are being displayed without permission. Hakusensha.Inc they posted this in many different languages. money is being made by this fan made project. https://www.patreon.com/StudioECLYPSE |
Old_School_AkiraSep 11, 8:28 AM
| HACKs! ๐คข๐คฎ |
| So, this is going to be the first pirate production? ๐ |
| I don't like fan projects. Hakusensha should take legal action. |
| They are true Berserk fans, and they have the talent to become comedians. |
| I was vaguely worried when I saw the trailer, but I assumed that they've reached some kind of understanding with the rights holders. I guess they didn't. I wonder if there's any way forward with this. If the author was alive and was enthusiastic about the project, maaaybe he could've made something happen? But I'm pessimistic at this point. Old_School_Akira said: money is being made by this fan made project. It's not like fan-made projects don't cost money, though. Based on the trailers, Studio Eclypse seemed to be aiming high in terms of quality, which probably needed a small fortune. I personally think asking for tips is reasonable, but I understand it's really up to the lawyers and accountants to determine whether that counts as "making money." |
Reply to Zarutaku
So, this is going to be the first pirate production? ๐
Zarutaku said: So, this is going to be the first pirate production? ๐ Probably the second,touhou fans took the first spot https://myanimelist.net/anime/55315/Gensou_Mangekyou__The_Memories_of_Phantasm?q=touhou%20ks&cat=anime |
| I don't know how to feel about it because on the one hand I would like to see a good adaptation of berserk, but on the other the project has gotten big enough that it can hardly still be called a fan project and there are copyright issues and they are unlikely to continue without permissions. I imagine they will try to sue them to avoid creating precedents of unauthorized adaptations (which go beyond a few minutes made by complete amateurs) |
| The rights holders should make a better anime themselves if they have a problem with this. |
| ใใฎ็ฎใ ใใฎ็ฎ๏ผ |
Reply to Zarutaku
So, this is going to be the first pirate production? ๐
| @Zarutaku That's pretty based. "Fine, I'll do it myself." |
This dance is the pinnacle of human achievement. |
| Nothing is stopping the copyright holders from starting their own patreon/funding source to collect funds to make a proper adaptation of Berserk (they should be able to collect more if in competition anyways). Whatever they touched in the past, clearly had no love for Miura's work (abrupt end in Berserk 1997/whack start, complete detail loss with CGI for the trilogy movies but they did conclude it better than the original season and less censorship, the shitty CGI of Berserk 2016 and sequels, slightly improved TV release of the trilogy movie but that doesn't move anything) all the while skipping arcs and speedrunning his manga. |
 |
Reply to pk8list
Zarutaku said:
So, this is going to be the first pirate production? ๐
So, this is going to be the first pirate production? ๐
Probably the second,touhou fans took the first spot
https://myanimelist.net/anime/55315/Gensou_Mangekyou__The_Memories_of_Phantasm?q=touhou%20ks&cat=anime
| @pk8list Interesting, did they really make this without permission of the copyright holder? |
Reply to perseii
I was vaguely worried when I saw the trailer, but I assumed that they've reached some kind of understanding with the rights holders. I guess they didn't.
I wonder if there's any way forward with this. If the author was alive and was enthusiastic about the project, maaaybe he could've made something happen? But I'm pessimistic at this point.
It's not like fan-made projects don't cost money, though. Based on the trailers, Studio Eclypse seemed to be aiming high in terms of quality, which probably needed a small fortune. I personally think asking for tips is reasonable, but I understand it's really up to the lawyers and accountants to determine whether that counts as "making money."
I wonder if there's any way forward with this. If the author was alive and was enthusiastic about the project, maaaybe he could've made something happen? But I'm pessimistic at this point.
Old_School_Akira said:
money is being made by this fan made project.
money is being made by this fan made project.
It's not like fan-made projects don't cost money, though. Based on the trailers, Studio Eclypse seemed to be aiming high in terms of quality, which probably needed a small fortune. I personally think asking for tips is reasonable, but I understand it's really up to the lawyers and accountants to determine whether that counts as "making money."
| @perseii But they upload official pages of the manga on you tube. I know they mean no harm but they can't just assume the publishers of the manga are ok with this. https://old.reddit.com/r/Berserk/comments/1fe7igm/japanesse_fans_have_no_mercy_with_studio_eclypse/ |
| HACKs! ๐คข๐คฎ |
Reply to Old_School_Akira
@perseii But they upload official pages of the manga on you tube. I know they mean no harm but they can't just assume the publishers of the manga are ok with this.
https://old.reddit.com/r/Berserk/comments/1fe7igm/japanesse_fans_have_no_mercy_with_studio_eclypse/
https://old.reddit.com/r/Berserk/comments/1fe7igm/japanesse_fans_have_no_mercy_with_studio_eclypse/
| @Old_School_Akira Yeah, the rights holders are probably not ok with it. And they shouldn't be. I'm just saying that the existence of a Patreon doesn't imply a money-making operation that exploits someone else's property. The project probably wouldn't have got this far without it. But that reddit thread seems to indicate some questionable track record on Eclypse's part, so who knows... I just hope they can reach some kind of agreement. Maybe the rights holder can give the studio their blessing, with some stipulations, like "don't use manga panels to advertise" or "don't use the logo and the font", for example. But it's probably unlikely. |
Reply to Zarutaku
@pk8list Interesting, did they really make this without permission of the copyright holder?
Zarutaku said: Interesting, did they really make this without permission of the copyright holder? I am not 100% sure about that but the creator of the games is pretty lax with the copyrights,as long as someone gives credits to him as the creator anything goes,(at least thats how things used to be in 2000s from what I know). |
| But people make fan-made animations of manga all the time on Youtube and Twitter. What different about this? |
Reply to phantom346
But people make fan-made animations of manga all the time on Youtube and Twitter. What different about this?
| @phantom346 they directly adapted the source materials when the cases you mentioned at the very least consist of somewhat original ideas. Of course there should be legal interventions. |
SgtBateManSep 11, 10:25 AM
Help! I need somebody. Help! Not just anybody. Help! You know I need someone. Helpppppp!  |
| You should make your titles shorter |
Reply to JoeChip
You should make your titles shorter
| @JoeChip like isekai anime titles? |
| HACKs! ๐คข๐คฎ |
Reply to Old_School_Akira
| @Old_School_Akira Are you blind or something if you are asking this |
Reply to pk8list
Zarutaku said:
So, this is going to be the first pirate production? ๐
So, this is going to be the first pirate production? ๐
Probably the second,touhou fans took the first spot
https://myanimelist.net/anime/55315/Gensou_Mangekyou__The_Memories_of_Phantasm?q=touhou%20ks&cat=anime
| @pk8list Touhou fans always two steps ahead. |
| Is the thread title a post-ironic parody of long LN titles? |
 |
| lmao idc about the copyright and all and also what others are yapping. that trailer is absolutely freaking FIRE |
"Are you the strongest because you're Satoru Gojo? Or are you Satoru Gojo because you're the strongest?"~ Suguru Geto  |
Reply to tchitchouan
@pk8list Touhou fans always two steps ahead.
| @tchitchouan is-is that a... umm... uh-is-uh is that a NIKOCADO AVOCADO REFERENCE????????? |
"Are you the strongest because you're Satoru Gojo? Or are you Satoru Gojo because you're the strongest?"~ Suguru Geto |
| I’m glad honestly, i’m sure there are passionate fans working on this but ever since they announced this without dropping AOT no requiem I knew this was a scam pretty much |
| The official guys couldn't be arsed to make a single decent Berserk anime in 30 years. Whatever the fan project is going to look like, it can't be worse than the CGI mess we got a few years back. Also, I still find it hilarious that their justification for going with CGI was that they didn't have anyone that could draw a horse. |
| I don't track Studio Eclypse or their projects that much, but each time I hear about them it goes like this: a very good looking trailer or a fanmade series is announced, people are hyped because of that, and... That's it, lol. They never delivered anything apart from, again, good looking trailers and news promising one thing or another regarding their projects. Attack on Titan: Requiem project, which made them famous (well, I heard about them after learning that some ending copers want to make their own Attack on Titan ending, lmao; I didn't have any idea it was anything serious), is said to be released on Fall 2024. At least according to this trailer (spoiler warning for anyone unfamiliar with the Attack on Titan's ending): Until this particular show is released, no one will convince me that they are capable of making a fanmade series. I mean, they have skills, talent, passion and also resources (they have their own Patreon, no?), but it's hard to tell anything more about their works when no finished work, apart from trailers teasing their projects, was ever released. Gathering money for fanmade projects said to be non-commercial, that are directly parasiting on stuff you don't have right to is already bad (including treating official stuff as fancy elements to promote yourself), but not delivering anything despite all of that? It's even worse, mostly for people who financially supported such stuff. In this context, it doesn't even matter that the show iwas said to eventually become available for free to everyone. The world ain't that simple. Japan is also very strict when it comes to copyright. Even more than many Western countries. So announcing that kind of project and fueling it with crowdfindong couldn't end up in a different way. I'm surprised that it didn't happen earlier. Japanese fans are already mad on X (formerly known as Twitter). I like fanmade projects and I wish Studio Eclypse to find a solution and actually deliver the shows they promised, for the sake of fans, and also themselves as artists, capable of making and finishing their work. But from what I briefly read about this situation, most likely that Black Swordsman fanmade anime by Studio Eclypse might end up canceled by the official publisher. |
AdnashSep 11, 6:32 PM
โจSaint Seiya Club๐ |
Reply to RobertBobert
Is the thread title a post-ironic parody of long LN titles?
| @RobertBobert Haha, my thoughts exactly. This thread's title really gives the vibe of a typical Light Novel title. ;D By the way: tchitchouan said: Is this a Nikocado Avocado reference?!?!?! Touhou fans always two steps ahead. |
โจSaint Seiya Club๐ |
Reply to Adnash
@RobertBobert Haha, my thoughts exactly. This thread's title really gives the vibe of a typical Light Novel title. ;D
By the way:
By the way:
tchitchouan said:
Touhou fans always two steps ahead.
Is this a Nikocado Avocado reference?!?!?! Touhou fans always two steps ahead.
| @Adnash maybe, maybe not. You decide :P |
Reply to Adnash
@RobertBobert Haha, my thoughts exactly. This thread's title really gives the vibe of a typical Light Novel title. ;D
By the way:
By the way:
tchitchouan said:
Touhou fans always two steps ahead.
Is this a Nikocado Avocado reference?!?!?! Touhou fans always two steps ahead.
| @Adnash I just remembered what Maki-sensei said about how the LN title should convey the essence of the work as much as possible, lmao. |
|
Reply to RobertBobert
@Adnash I just remembered what Maki-sensei said about how the LN title should convey the essence of the work as much as possible, lmao.
| @RobertBobert I also thought about that quote. Great minds think alike, it seems. ๐ค In that regard, this thread could fit that definition. Its title is as informative and essence-grasping as it's possible, haha. |
โจSaint Seiya Club๐ |
Reply to Adnash
@RobertBobert I also thought about that quote. Great minds think alike, it seems. ๐ค
In that regard, this thread could fit that definition. Its title is as informative and essence-grasping as it's possible, haha.
In that regard, this thread could fit that definition. Its title is as informative and essence-grasping as it's possible, haha.
| @Adnash Well, jokes aside, Berserk has long been missing a full-fledged reboot of the anime adaptation. I liked the latest anime, but it basically just repeated the old one with new animation. |
|
| Hope they get sued even if they never actually planned to deliver beyond a trailer, because they're scammers. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| The most immediate action is likely a cease and desist order, requiring Studio Eclypse to stop production and distribution of the fan-made project. If the cease and desist is ignored, the copyright holders (Studio Gaga and Hakusensha) might pursue legal action to protect their intellectual property. This wil result in fines and other penalties for Studio Eclypse. the parties might enter negotiations. Studio Eclypse could seek permission or licensing agreements to continue their project legally, though this depends on the fans reactions.. The fan community’s reaction play a role. If there’s significant support for the fan project, it might influence the copyright holders’ approach, though legal rights typically take precedence. , the most likely outcome is that the fan project will be shut down to protect the rights of the original creators and publishers. Nobody gives a crap about fans’ passion, fans are just customers, cash cow..., Only thing any every greedy businesses care about is making more money and seeking financial compensations...they couldn't give a crap about fans.. It's all about the money..  |
| They should take a page or two from Touhou series. The creator is suuper chilled about fan projects, and they are of high quality too. You wouldn't know the difference between them and "official" anime. |
"Nobody could laugh at someone who's trying their hardest" -Machio- |
More topics from this board
» Have your experienced an anime season which not even a single anime interest you? What do you do when that happens?Rinrinka - 45 minutes ago |
11 |
by Notoshin
»»
3 minutes ago |
|
» Comment characters YOU THINK would be good lesbian / gay pairings (CAN BE FROM SEPARATE SERIES)IpreferEcchi - 3 hours ago |
12 |
by WaterMage
»»
9 minutes ago |
|
» Your waifu has small tits, how do you cope?Catalano - 1 hour ago |
18 |
by ArabianLuffy
»»
9 minutes ago |
|
» Silly anime subbersEzekiel - Dec 23, 2020 |
24 |
by 23feanor
»»
27 minutes ago |
|
» why are women being so unseen as audience ? ( 1 2 3 )ame - Oct 13 |
149 |
by LenRea
»»
30 minutes ago |