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Aug 27, 7:57 AM
#1
Another episode meant another new adventure and that took sensei and his party to a new town. This one seemingly looked fine at first until realizing it needed fixing. As usual, Sensei dealt with it in the most casual way possible. Not too much different from other episodes. Tama is still Tama and everyone still plays their roles. Felt bad how that dancer got treated. |
Stark700Aug 27, 9:27 AM
Aug 27, 8:46 AM
#2
the reaction of the "hero" of that town when he finally realized he did all that for nothingπ the villagers ain't as innocent as he thought, eh?π |
Aug 27, 8:49 AM
#3
The way this show looked it would be a bland seasonal isekai and ended up being one of the best shows of the season never ceases to amaze me. Awesome episode to follow up with after Tama’s arc. Esche you are an angel and deserved so much better, but the townspeople will get what’s coming to them. Seeing the abuse and treatment that Esche suffered all for trying to be a good person and keep the peace and protect the world tree just made me so angry. At least she got to meet sensei and their time together was short, but sweet. It’s rare to see sensei so taken by someone not just because of their physical beauty, but the beauty of their soul. Yamada with his whole sense of justice gimmick didn’t see what was happening right in front of his eyes with the townspeople being the real bad guys lmao. I have zero sympathy for him getting taken advantage of and ultimately offered TEN percent of the profit sharing for using the world tree leaves lmao. Let’s see how that town fairs without its protector now Love the ending scene with Dazai getting an unlimited supply of Calmotin lmao. Of all the wishes to have granted.. great ep |
Marinate1016Aug 27, 10:00 AM
Aug 27, 9:00 AM
#4
Wow this episode was great, I feel for the hero at the end when he realised the townspeople would be just as immoral as the other worlders he just defeated. |
Aug 27, 9:05 AM
#5
Was not trusting this Yamada guy the entire eps,thought he was in cahoots with the gambler or some shady plan.Even thought he was gonna be irrational and punish Esche or whatnot.Dont think he was at fault as they made him out to be tho. |
Aug 27, 9:47 AM
#6
So glad that Sensei got his infinite Calmotin!! Couldn't have wished for a happier ending π |
Aug 27, 9:52 AM
#7
Brilliant episode! Very sad how it ended for Esche after doing so much for these people. She was too good for them and as soon she left the tree dried up. Justice served. Even the otherwolder who was surprisingly innocent, was betrayed. Only sensei saw Esche as an angel she was. Atleast he got his poison supply back. |
Aug 27, 10:14 AM
#8
This episode shows the difference between a protagonist of a story and a hero. Just because someone is the protagonist doesn’t make them a hero. The “non fallen” outer worlder saw all his actions as just. If he defeats the fallen outerworlders and destroyed the casino, everyone would be saved. However, he never understood that the villagers were just a corrupt as the outerworlders. Was his action heroic? Maybe, but maybe not. That is up to the people themselves to decide. |
Aug 27, 10:28 AM
#9
I didn't expect the studio to be able to fit this arc into one series, but I'm pleasantly impressed with the result, everything is great. |
Aug 27, 10:52 AM
#10
This was a pretty unique episode that showed not everything is as it seems, with the hero otherworlder actually meaning well and same for the dancer Esche. I think that Sensei's "don't care" attitude helped him figure Esche out rather quickly, same for the hero otherworlder. Towards the end of the episode I was surprised to hear that the elder wanted to keep harvesting the leaves and sell them to the addicts which I think contributed to the world tree drying up, as well as exiling Esche. |
Alfredo-SauceAug 27, 11:06 AM
Aug 27, 11:28 AM
#11
best believe i will be clipping that dance sequence and dat ass i FINALLY have a simp character in this show, what a baddie |
EcchiGodMamsterAug 27, 11:35 AM
Aug 27, 11:32 AM
#12
The nice resolution of Tama's arc, brings the gang to the town of Toneriko, where the World Tree resides...and a casino also? It can only be the work of Other Worlders disturbing the peace, which resulted in the famish of the World Tree...or refilling Sensei's drugs are more important lols. Yamada stepping up to the plate to assist the mayor to resurrect the World Tree, that's a first, though Sensei needs his drugs quick...and finds a cave full of immorality, people suffering from the cessation pain-relieves of the World Tree. And one such person is Esche, the Witch of Toneriko, siding with the Orher Worlders and enticing them with her drinks and dancing enough to call her the Traitorous Witch. The thought of death fuels Sensei more to fuel towards Esche, who in reality, is an angel doing the work of justice, but even Yamada himself boasting his self-justice just doesn't sit well with Sensei until he proves his point being one. Sure, the quest to save Toneriko is done, but the townsfolk against Esche who doesn't understand her role in the affair, they're no better than people who don't see the good in the bad, and willingly let go of their one and only true saviour. Even the mayor's intent to make Yamada their justice spokesperson, it's just twisted, even if that's something that Sensei had known by his gut instinct, revealed by Esche...being a fairy spirit for the World Tree, and blessing him with infinite Calmotin. What goes around comes around, and Sensei took the entire picture well. |
Aug 27, 11:32 AM
#13
Tama - "That ending left me with a bad taste in my mouth" Yep. Also, I love that Sensei's epic reward for the world tree quest, the fulfillment of his wish, was just a bottomless jar of sleeping pills. Very on-brand. |
Aug 27, 11:37 AM
#14
Loved this episode! As the wise Guru Pathik once said: "The greatest illusion of this world is the illusion of separation. Things you think are separate and different are actually one and the same." "Good" and "Evil" are no more than illusions, yet a common justification of people's actions. No matter how "correct" or "just" you think your goals are, anyone else thinks the same way about their personal goals. Why would YOUR goal be any more valid than anyone else's. In this episode then, why was Sensei the one to achieve his goal? Not because his goal was the most "righteous" one, I think most people would agree. Neither because he understood the situation better than anyone else and made the "best" decision. He was rewarded because he understood that there is no "right" answer and therefore did not judge anyone for their decisions. Everyone's decisions are theirs to make as long as they don't take away anyone else's right to make their own. Even the above sentence is only an opinion, but it's a fact that cooperation is only achieved when both parties conform with a common agreement. That is what Esche saw in Sensei and the reason she made the decision to grant his wish and punish the townsfolk. This is the meaning of blue and orange morality for me. Not only are the characters impossible to classify as evil or good, black or white, but even the idea of using a gray scale is laughable. Everyone has their own goals and ideals, no more "correct" than anyone else's. THAT is why I believe this episode is perfect, dare I say as well executed as the spirits in Avatar: The Last Airbender! 10/10 |
Aug 27, 11:43 AM
#15
This was a really good episode with its commentary on people's characters and showing how people in both world's are really the same. People always jump to conclusions and do not accept the truth, even falsely accusing their true protector, Esche, who the called a witch. The people complained about the other worlders, but after their gone, they just continue the same greedy dealings. The contrast between the two different ideals, Sensei vs the Hero, then later to have the Hero realize that he was assuming all along, and come to see Sensei was right. The ending with The World Tree Spirt appear and it sas Esche all along, thanking him for listening, watching, understanding, and defending her. With the music γγγͺγγη΄ ζ΄γγγδΈηγ Mayu Maeshima fade in as she was leaving, very nice touch. Oh ... can someone please explain the "infinite Calmotin" skill? |
ejleonAug 27, 11:49 AM
Aug 27, 11:43 AM
#16
5 / 5 This episode is the best representation of : Not all heroes wear capes or maybe : Not all heroes wear shiny armor (^_^)v |
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Aug 27, 11:48 AM
#17
What a satisfying episode ending, although I still feel bad, if only for Esche. She protected them, and all she got in return was hatred from the people she was defending. It’s comforting to know she was always the tree spirit, but part of me wished she had joined Sensei's group. I feel bad that it ended this way just for her, but I am satisfied that the town is going down the drain. The only important thing in the town was the tree, and now they no longer have it. I’m simply happy that Esche at least met someone who truly understood and defended her. As for Yamada, his sense of "justice" blinded him, and he failed to see the bigger picture. I doubted him, thinking he might turn into a villain, but he ended up even worse feeling miserable for helping people who were worse. I just hope he doesn’t get corrupted by the inhabitants of that town and continues on the right path. The only good thing that came out of this is that now Sensei has an infinite supply of Calmotin, hahaha. |
Aug 27, 11:57 AM
#18
This was the best episode yet if you ask me. Poor Esche, while it was tragic I enjoyed her storyline and I'm sure Sensei thanks her for the neverending prescription XD. |
Aug 27, 12:10 PM
#19
mind blowing great episode wow just wow this anime is too underated |
Aug 27, 12:13 PM
#20
Reply to gorkthe134th
Loved this episode!
As the wise Guru Pathik once said:
"The greatest illusion of this world is the illusion of separation. Things you think are separate and different are actually one and the same."
"Good" and "Evil" are no more than illusions, yet a common justification of people's actions.
No matter how "correct" or "just" you think your goals are, anyone else thinks the same way about their personal goals.
Why would YOUR goal be any more valid than anyone else's.
In this episode then, why was Sensei the one to achieve his goal?
Not because his goal was the most "righteous" one, I think most people would agree.
Neither because he understood the situation better than anyone else and made the "best" decision.
He was rewarded because he understood that there is no "right" answer and therefore did not judge anyone for their decisions.
Everyone's decisions are theirs to make as long as they don't take away anyone else's right to make their own.
Even the above sentence is only an opinion, but it's a fact that cooperation is only achieved when both parties conform with a common agreement.
That is what Esche saw in Sensei and the reason she made the decision to grant his wish and punish the townsfolk.
This is the meaning of blue and orange morality for me.
Not only are the characters impossible to classify as evil or good, black or white, but even the idea of using a gray scale is laughable.
Everyone has their own goals and ideals, no more "correct" than anyone else's.
THAT is why I believe this episode is perfect, dare I say as well executed as the spirits in Avatar: The Last Airbender!
10/10
As the wise Guru Pathik once said:
"The greatest illusion of this world is the illusion of separation. Things you think are separate and different are actually one and the same."
"Good" and "Evil" are no more than illusions, yet a common justification of people's actions.
No matter how "correct" or "just" you think your goals are, anyone else thinks the same way about their personal goals.
Why would YOUR goal be any more valid than anyone else's.
In this episode then, why was Sensei the one to achieve his goal?
Not because his goal was the most "righteous" one, I think most people would agree.
Neither because he understood the situation better than anyone else and made the "best" decision.
He was rewarded because he understood that there is no "right" answer and therefore did not judge anyone for their decisions.
Everyone's decisions are theirs to make as long as they don't take away anyone else's right to make their own.
Even the above sentence is only an opinion, but it's a fact that cooperation is only achieved when both parties conform with a common agreement.
That is what Esche saw in Sensei and the reason she made the decision to grant his wish and punish the townsfolk.
This is the meaning of blue and orange morality for me.
Not only are the characters impossible to classify as evil or good, black or white, but even the idea of using a gray scale is laughable.
Everyone has their own goals and ideals, no more "correct" than anyone else's.
THAT is why I believe this episode is perfect, dare I say as well executed as the spirits in Avatar: The Last Airbender!
10/10
@gorkthe134th With all due respect, this just seems like you preaching your personal perspective, instead of commenting on what actually happened in this episode. I disagree with your perspective and your comments on the this episode. If "good' and "evil" do not exist, then humans should be able to do whatever they want with restraint or punishment, but the fact that humans themselves have created rules / laws to restrain their own nature and have punishments for those who break them, means that humans agree that there is an understanding of "good" and "evil" in their minds, so they are not illusions. To be completely honest, nothing of what you said was in this episode. Sensei was wise, meaning he watched and listened, he didn't make assumptions and jump to conclusions, like everyone else did, for example the village people and the Hero. Sensei helped Esche because he talked to her himself and witnessed with his own eyes how she still protected and defended the people, even while being and an outcast, hated, and called a witch. He also understood that people in both worlds are the same, they refused to listen to the truth, falsely accused people, and even wanted to continue the greedy practices of the other worlders they complained about. The Hero realizes at the end that he should have investigated more and not been so blinded by his "hero ideals", he solved one problem, only to create a new problem, but not solving the problem of saving the world tree, like he intended. Esche thanks Sensei and rewards him, not only because he helped and defended her, but she knew that he was different than the others, his character was good and wise. |
ejleonAug 27, 12:18 PM
Aug 27, 12:19 PM
#21
dame this ep whats sometimes els |
Aug 27, 1:21 PM
#23
Perfect follow up episode with all that has happened, not every other worlder is evil and neither every village is full of innocent people that need saving, there is a lot of complexity and gray areas much like in our world, what's is right or wrong, some may be necessary evils and maybe being recused by a hero doesn't mean a happy ending, I feel bad for Yamada but he learned a lifelong lesson. |
Aug 27, 1:40 PM
#25
Holy crap what a great episode; a bit cliche in some respects but still a great story. I didn't even consider the idea that eche would be the tree spirit. I wonder if this is the end of this story or if he'll go back to the town. Not all endings are happy, so it would be fine if they simply move on and let the villagers eternally regret their decisions. |
Aug 27, 1:55 PM
#26
Reply to ejleon
@gorkthe134th With all due respect, this just seems like you preaching your personal perspective, instead of commenting on what actually happened in this episode.
I disagree with your perspective and your comments on the this episode.
If "good' and "evil" do not exist, then humans should be able to do whatever they want with restraint or punishment, but the fact that humans themselves have created rules / laws to restrain their own nature and have punishments for those who break them, means that humans agree that there is an understanding of "good" and "evil" in their minds, so they are not illusions.
To be completely honest, nothing of what you said was in this episode.
Sensei was wise, meaning he watched and listened, he didn't make assumptions and jump to conclusions, like everyone else did, for example the village people and the Hero.
Sensei helped Esche because he talked to her himself and witnessed with his own eyes how she still protected and defended the people, even while being and an outcast, hated, and called a witch.
He also understood that people in both worlds are the same, they refused to listen to the truth, falsely accused people, and even wanted to continue the greedy practices of the other worlders they complained about.
The Hero realizes at the end that he should have investigated more and not been so blinded by his "hero ideals", he solved one problem, only to create a new problem, but not solving the problem of saving the world tree, like he intended.
Esche thanks Sensei and rewards him, not only because he helped and defended her, but she knew that he was different than the others, his character was good and wise.
I disagree with your perspective and your comments on the this episode.
If "good' and "evil" do not exist, then humans should be able to do whatever they want with restraint or punishment, but the fact that humans themselves have created rules / laws to restrain their own nature and have punishments for those who break them, means that humans agree that there is an understanding of "good" and "evil" in their minds, so they are not illusions.
To be completely honest, nothing of what you said was in this episode.
Sensei was wise, meaning he watched and listened, he didn't make assumptions and jump to conclusions, like everyone else did, for example the village people and the Hero.
Sensei helped Esche because he talked to her himself and witnessed with his own eyes how she still protected and defended the people, even while being and an outcast, hated, and called a witch.
He also understood that people in both worlds are the same, they refused to listen to the truth, falsely accused people, and even wanted to continue the greedy practices of the other worlders they complained about.
The Hero realizes at the end that he should have investigated more and not been so blinded by his "hero ideals", he solved one problem, only to create a new problem, but not solving the problem of saving the world tree, like he intended.
Esche thanks Sensei and rewards him, not only because he helped and defended her, but she knew that he was different than the others, his character was good and wise.
ejleon said: With all due respect, this just seems like you preaching your personal perspective, instead of commenting on what actually happened in this episode. First off, my goal with this comment was not "preaching". I just felt that this episode demonstrated my philosophy really well and wanted to share both my philosophy and how that aligned with the events of the episode. ejleon said: I disagree with your perspective and your comments on the this episode. It's fine if you disagree with me. I cannot force you to do so. In fact, that was my point in the original comment, that agreement is not necessary and right or wrong is relative. ejleon said: If "good' and "evil" do not exist, then humans should be able to do whatever they want with restraint or punishment, but the fact that humans themselves have created rules / laws to restrain their own nature and have punishments for those who break them, means that humans agree that there is an understanding of "good" and "evil" in their minds, so they are not illusions. Humans ARE able to do whatever they want with restraint or punishment. They don't have any intrinsic limitations on how or even if they should restraint themselves or punish others. The fact that humans have created rules / laws does not mean that they are necessary or that there is an objective "good" or "evil". Rules / laws are just agreements between humans and enforcement is increasing the chance of compliance, cause like I said: gorkthe134th said: it's a fact that cooperation is only achieved when both parties conform with a common agreement. Everything else in your response is a restatement of some of my points, with added examples. ejleon said: Sensei was wise, meaning he watched and listened, he didn't make assumptions and jump to conclusions, like everyone else did, for example the village people and the Hero. ejleon said: Sensei helped Esche because he talked to her himself and witnessed with his own eyes how she still protected and defended the people, even while being and an outcast, hated, and called a witch. gorkthe134th said: Sensei did not judge anyone for their decisions. "Not judge anyone for their decisions" here can mean that he did not declare Esche a witch because of her appearance and attempts at seduction. He talked to her and observed her to figure out the reason she is like that, instead of jumping to conclusions, like the others did. I wrote it this way to mostly emphasize that he did not attack anyone for kicking her from the village. If that's their decision, so be it. ejleon said: He also understood that people in both worlds are the same, they refused to listen to the truth, falsely accused people, and even wanted to continue the greedy practices of the other worlders they complained about. gorkthe134th said: Things you think are separate and different are actually one and the same. ejleon said: The Hero realizes at the end that he should have investigated more and not been so blinded by his "hero ideals", he solved one problem, only to create a new problem, but not solving the problem of saving the world tree, like he intended. gorkthe134th said: He was not rewarded because his goal was the most "righteous" one "Righteousness" is an illusion in the sense that it's not an answer to every problem. You are not rewarded just for being "righteous". Chasing an illusion blindly won't necessarily lead you to somewhere you want to be. ejleon said: Esche thanks Sensei and rewards him, not only because he helped and defended her, but she knew that he was different than the others, his character was good and wise. gorkthe134th said: That is what Esche saw in Sensei and the reason she made the decision to grant his wish and punish the townsfolk. That's exactly what I wanted to stress about Esche. I don't believe that she rewards him just for his defense. She is a spirit after all, winning an argument with some humans shouldn't be a concern for her. Above all else she is a protector, so when she saw the people she's trying to protect disrespecting and abusing her (the tree leaves), she abandoned them for a person wiser and more dependable than them, giving him her blessing to eventually find Sacchan and die in peace. |
gorkthe134thAug 27, 2:02 PM
Aug 27, 2:31 PM
#27
Dazai achieved his quest of obtaining more sedatives! Okay but who introduces himself as "Sensei"? XD It's interesting to meet a heroic Otherworlder, tho I'm curious about his backstory, since the idea is that people who had miserable lives use their newfound power to make other people miserable. |
Aug 27, 2:32 PM
#28
This show deserves a higher MAL score |
Aug 27, 2:35 PM
#29
gorkthe134th said: ejleon said: With all due respect, this just seems like you preaching your personal perspective, instead of commenting on what actually happened in this episode. First off, my goal with this comment was not "preaching". I just felt that this episode demonstrated my philosophy really well and wanted to share both my philosophy and how that aligned with the events of the episode. ejleon said: I disagree with your perspective and your comments on the this episode. It's fine if you disagree with me. I cannot force you to do so. In fact, that was my point in the original comment, that agreement is not necessary and right or wrong is relative. ejleon said: If "good' and "evil" do not exist, then humans should be able to do whatever they want with restraint or punishment, but the fact that humans themselves have created rules / laws to restrain their own nature and have punishments for those who break them, means that humans agree that there is an understanding of "good" and "evil" in their minds, so they are not illusions. Humans ARE able to do whatever they want with restraint or punishment. They don't have any intrinsic limitations on how or even if they should restraint themselves or punish others. The fact that humans have created rules / laws does not mean that they are necessary or that there is an objective "good" or "evil". Rules / laws are just agreements between humans and enforcement is increasing the chance of compliance, cause like I said: gorkthe134th said: it's a fact that cooperation is only achieved when both parties conform with a common agreement. Everything else in your response is a restatement of some of my points, with added examples. ejleon said: Sensei was wise, meaning he watched and listened, he didn't make assumptions and jump to conclusions, like everyone else did, for example the village people and the Hero. ejleon said: Sensei helped Esche because he talked to her himself and witnessed with his own eyes how she still protected and defended the people, even while being and an outcast, hated, and called a witch. gorkthe134th said: Sensei did not judge anyone for their decisions. "Not judge anyone for their decisions" here can mean that he did not declare Esche a witch because of her appearance and attempts at seduction. He talked to her and observed her to figure out the reason she is like that, instead of jumping to conclusions, like the others did. I wrote it this way to mostly emphasize that he did not attack anyone for kicking her from the village. If that's their decision, so be it. ejleon said: He also understood that people in both worlds are the same, they refused to listen to the truth, falsely accused people, and even wanted to continue the greedy practices of the other worlders they complained about. gorkthe134th said: Things you think are separate and different are actually one and the same. ejleon said: The Hero realizes at the end that he should have investigated more and not been so blinded by his "hero ideals", he solved one problem, only to create a new problem, but not solving the problem of saving the world tree, like he intended. gorkthe134th said: He was not rewarded because his goal was the most "righteous" one "Righteousness" is an illusion in the sense that it's not an answer to every problem. You are not rewarded just for being "righteous". Chasing an illusion blindly won't necessarily lead you to somewhere you want to be. ejleon said: Esche thanks Sensei and rewards him, not only because he helped and defended her, but she knew that he was different than the others, his character was good and wise. gorkthe134th said: That is what Esche saw in Sensei and the reason she made the decision to grant his wish and punish the townsfolk. That's exactly what I wanted to stress about Esche. I don't believe that she rewards him just for his defense. She is a spirit after all, winning an argument with some humans shouldn't be a concern for her. Above all else she is a protector, so when she saw the people she's trying to protect disrespecting and abusing her (the tree leaves), she abandoned them for a person wiser and more dependable than them, giving him her blessing to eventually find Sacchan and die in peace. A simple example … There are two groups of villagers separated by a river. First village teaches that “stealing” is wrong and there is a punishment for thieves. Second village does not teach that “stealing” is wrong and people from that village often cross the river to steal from the first village. It has gotten so bad, that there are talks of going to war. According to your perspective, neither group is good or evil, they both can do whatever they think. But we can see that what one village did to affect another village without being stopped, caused an even worse outcome. Good & Evil are not relative, because we can see that if the second village taught the same as the first, then this would not have happened. You can say “Oh I meant as long as it doesn’t affect another person”, then you are saying that would be bad, so there is a right and wrong way to be, which means that there is a good and evil that we all need to consider. Therefore, it would be righteous to not affect another person’s life in a negative way. “Love your neighbor as yourself” “Treat others the way you want to be treated” The reason these became staples in society is because people agreed that these were good and right. |
ejleonAug 27, 10:46 PM
Aug 27, 3:09 PM
#30
I expected this to be the next arc, but it was a great one-off episode. Esche has a really great design. It's nice to know that there are some other worlders like Yamada who aren't totally corrupt |
Aug 27, 3:19 PM
#31
The tree spirit refilling his pill bottle at the end made me laugh so freaking much |
Aug 27, 3:21 PM
#32
Damn, now this was a nice episode, not that the show hasn’t been great but this is definitely one of my favorites so far. They really had me thinking that Yamada would end up turning bad by the end, he just seemed too good, but turns out he actually was good and just, he just unfortunately defeated a bunch of crooks which gave leeway for more crooks, I believe he did the right thing but unlike Sensei, he didn’t get the bigger picture. I also gotta say the situation was quite goofy, so these cigar smoking mafia dudes got reincarnated and decided to do business in this world, and that involved smoking the leaves of the world tree lol, that is wild. The biggest victim of the episode tho was Esche, such a beautiful babe and I loved her dance scene, but she was unfortunately painted as a witch by the villagers, I mean I get it looked bad on her for opening a bar and making money herself, but even when the villagers were told the truth they refused to listen, so fuck them, justice for the beautiful witch lady lol. But there was another twist at the end of the episode, turns out Esche was the spirit of the world tree and granted Sensei’s wish for what he had done for her, I definitely wasn’t expecting that but it at least left the episode on a good note, Sensei getting an infinite supply of pills lol, never shall he run out again. I’ll miss Esche for sure, hopefully she’ll reappear at some point but I can see this being the end for her as well. |
Aug 27, 3:24 PM
#33
I really liked the episode, it showcased the limits of heroism and how greed and societal issues can't just be solved with a sword and getting rid of the bad guys. It's nothing revolutionary but it is quite interesting and well done especially for the isekai genre. the blessing at the end refilling his bottle of meds was also really funny, I was wondering in previous episodes if they were ever going to run out |
Aug 27, 4:14 PM
#34
My dude can wish for anything, and all he wishes for is f*cking drugs? Is this world tree's spirit a drug dealer or a pharmacist? |
Aug 27, 4:26 PM
#35
Can't take this any more.. Sensei just sucks imo. Idk whether he gets character development later or not but I'm out. Would have kept watching if at least he dropped the pill bottle in the last scene but it looks like he'll just stay like he is.. The cheap cartoony thugs were cringe as well. I also think it doesn't make sense for Tama & Annette to like Sensei so much seeing how menhera he acts all the time, and then pulling his damn coffin everywhere.. |
Aug 27, 4:47 PM
#36
Even though it felt a bit rushed and was filled with literary tropes and cliches, this episode was really well done. Sensei really brought a refreshing dynamic to the old "no good deed goes unpunished" trope that Yamada and the townsfolk fall into. It's a deeply saddening episode, seeing the people of the town becoming corrupted by the very thing that sought to destroy them, Yamada losing a bit of humanity as a result of his naive actions, Esche being chased out despite being the one good person there, and the whole situation getting way worse as a result of misguided sense of self-righteousness. I want to say "at least Sensei got something out of it" but I'm not sure if a suicidal person receiving a bottomless bottle of hardcore sedatives is something to be celebrated. I'll just file it as a plot device that helps him maintain his poisoned status, and move on. All in all, despite its somewhat naive, almost fairy tale, or folk legend nature, this episode was an absolute class. It played well with the tropes it was serving, and got some feels out of me as a result. It just proves you don't need to completely flip the script in order to tell a good story. Sometimes just telling an old story the right way is more than enough. |
Aug 27, 5:02 PM
#37
Reply to amf85
Tama - "That ending left me with a bad taste in my mouth"
Yep.
Also, I love that Sensei's epic reward for the world tree quest, the fulfillment of his wish, was just a bottomless jar of sleeping pills. Very on-brand.
Yep.
Also, I love that Sensei's epic reward for the world tree quest, the fulfillment of his wish, was just a bottomless jar of sleeping pills. Very on-brand.
@amf85 Yes, Tama I believe it was meant to do so. Glad the one Guy really wasn't a scumbag, too bad the townsfolk let him down. Were willing to be drug traffickers, just like the off-worlders had been. This turned into a low key but best episode! |
Aug 27, 5:16 PM
#38
Reply to ejleon
This was a really good episode with its commentary on people's characters and showing how people in both world's are really the same.
People always jump to conclusions and do not accept the truth, even falsely accusing their true protector, Esche, who the called a witch.
The people complained about the other worlders, but after their gone, they just continue the same greedy dealings.
The contrast between the two different ideals, Sensei vs the Hero, then later to have the Hero realize that he was assuming all along, and come to see Sensei was right.
The ending with The World Tree Spirt appear and it sas Esche all along, thanking him for listening, watching, understanding, and defending her.
With the music γγγͺγγη΄ ζ΄γγγδΈηγ Mayu Maeshima fade in as she was leaving, very nice touch.
Oh ... can someone please explain the "infinite Calmotin" skill?
People always jump to conclusions and do not accept the truth, even falsely accusing their true protector, Esche, who the called a witch.
The people complained about the other worlders, but after their gone, they just continue the same greedy dealings.
The contrast between the two different ideals, Sensei vs the Hero, then later to have the Hero realize that he was assuming all along, and come to see Sensei was right.
The ending with The World Tree Spirt appear and it sas Esche all along, thanking him for listening, watching, understanding, and defending her.
With the music γγγͺγγη΄ ζ΄γγγδΈηγ Mayu Maeshima fade in as she was leaving, very nice touch.
Oh ... can someone please explain the "infinite Calmotin" skill?
@ejleon Calmotin is a sedative and mild hypnotic with potentially toxic effects. Knowing Osamu Dazai, it makes sense to expect Sensei to live intoxicated with Calmotin... 'Infinite Calmotin' is literal -- Esche gifted Sensei with a neverending supply of Calmotin. |
Mene, mene, tekel, parsin |
Aug 27, 6:04 PM
#39
Amazing épisode. It increase my rate to 8/10. The symbolic is so strong and Esche is very endearing. Hope we'll see her later |
Aug 27, 6:27 PM
#40
leonardobarba said: @ejleon Calmotin is a sedative and mild hypnotic with potentially toxic effects. Knowing Osamu Dazai, it makes sense to expect Sensei to live intoxicated with Calmotin... 'Infinite Calmotin' is literal -- Esche gifted Sensei with a neverending supply of Calmotin. Thank you for explaining this, I appreciate it. |
Aug 27, 6:42 PM
#41
Idk but I think we could also assume Esche was actually the spirit of the tree, so the end with it wilting (probably to death) as it gave Sensei its last blessing to thank him, as the villagers drowned in their greed and luxury smoking tree leaves until there are none left, makes the whole episode look even sadder. The villagers went from worshipping the tree to killing it willingly in a bat of an eye. The line between good and evil is indeed that thin.. |
bruh |
Aug 27, 6:50 PM
#42
Aug 27, 8:08 PM
#43
The villages needs to be eradicated for having the worst people ever. Reminds of Konoha |
Sun_ChanAug 27, 8:15 PM
Aug 27, 8:17 PM
#44
It was never the otherworlders fault that the tree started wilting. It was the vile villagers who mistreated the spirit of th tree from thw beginning |
Aug 27, 8:51 PM
#45
Really good episode. Sensei lamenting his improved health & posture without the pills and resorting to eating rocks was hilarious. We finally meet another Other Worlder who isn't evil, but he's a stereotypical justice-obsessed cosplayer in shining armor complete with the epic sword moves which was perfect. I enjoyed the way the episode shifted everything upside down with the "Witch" being the town's savior, the clueless hero being wrong, and the townsfolk being greedy amoral assholes. It'd be neat to have this character return later after he's hopefully grown a little more as a person (hopefully in second season?) This show is so good at playing around with isekai conventions and tropes, not just for laughs but often food for thought as well. |
Aug 27, 10:21 PM
#46
Gildesh said: Can't take this any more.. Sensei just sucks imo. Idk whether he gets character development later or not but I'm out. Would have kept watching if at least he dropped the pill bottle in the last scene but it looks like he'll just stay like he is.. The cheap cartoony thugs were cringe as well. I also think it doesn't make sense for Tama & Annette to like Sensei so much seeing how menhera he acts all the time, and then pulling his damn coffin everywhere.. This episode with its sociological topics is the best of the show so far, demonstrating Sensei’s wisdom and good character being unique in contrast with the rest, and you decide that this is the one to be fed up with, but you only mention things that have been going on the entire time in all the episodes. With all due respect, I just find that hilarious. Sensei hated liven and has been trying to kill himself the entire show, why in the world did you think he would change or drop the bottle? |
Aug 27, 11:46 PM
#47
Oh wow, a decent other-worlder exists??? IMPOSSIBRU! This Yamada guy has been snapped back to reality at the end. Refreshing to see he understood it's not all black and white though. Admirable he didn't double down on being right and turn delusional. Hopefully we'll meet him again sometime. Esche was the spirit of the world-tree! That was a nice twist. Is the tree going to die though? Hopefully not, otherwise makes 0 sense why Esche would go out of her way trying to keep otherworlders away from villagers if she's gonna abandon them anyways (permanently that is). As viewers we understand that the villagers are in the wrong, but can we really blame them for not understanding? As Sensei said, people are same everywhere. Quickly jumping to conclusions, not seeing own flaws etc. Heck, people who'd blame the villagers and say they deserved it, won't be any better and prove Sensei's point. It's easy to virtue signal and say they shouldn't have tried to profit from the leaves etc. People are flawed. A kind god/goddess should know people are foolish and wouldn't turn spiteful and abandon people (forever) or punish them severely. Here's hoping villagers will return to old ways and start caring about the tree like they used to and then it'll bloom again. It would be sad if it doesn't. |
Aug 27, 11:56 PM
#48
Sun_Chan said: The villages needs to be eradicated for having the worst people ever. Statement an edgy teenager would make, lol. No offense. Eradicate? Jesus... Sensei said it correctly, people are same everywhere. Those people are by far not "the worst", they're your typical average people. Eradication is the cringe part. I mean look at you. You're no better from that one villager who threw the stone. Quick to judge and craving for violence instead of trying to understand. |
Sigmar-UnberogenAug 28, 12:02 AM
Aug 28, 12:02 AM
#49
Reply to Ryodran
It was never the otherworlders fault that the tree started wilting. It was the vile villagers who mistreated the spirit of th tree from thw beginning
@Ryodran Umm no. If you want to be fair, you can't remove other-worlders from the equation entirely. Where did you get the idea villagers were at fault from the beginning? we don't have any evidence that these people were rotten from the start. All we see is them getting greedy, arrogant and corrupt once the obviously bad-guys are gone. |
Aug 28, 12:10 AM
#50
Reply to ejleon
Gildesh said:
Can't take this any more.. Sensei just sucks imo. Idk whether he gets character development later or not but I'm out.
Would have kept watching if at least he dropped the pill bottle in the last scene but it looks like he'll just stay like he is..
The cheap cartoony thugs were cringe as well.
I also think it doesn't make sense for Tama & Annette to like Sensei so much seeing how menhera he acts all the time, and then pulling his damn coffin everywhere..
Can't take this any more.. Sensei just sucks imo. Idk whether he gets character development later or not but I'm out.
Would have kept watching if at least he dropped the pill bottle in the last scene but it looks like he'll just stay like he is..
The cheap cartoony thugs were cringe as well.
I also think it doesn't make sense for Tama & Annette to like Sensei so much seeing how menhera he acts all the time, and then pulling his damn coffin everywhere..
This episode with its sociological topics is the best of the show so far, demonstrating Sensei’s wisdom and good character being unique in contrast with the rest, and you decide that this is the one to be fed up with, but you only mention things that have been going on the entire time in all the episodes.
With all due respect, I just find that hilarious.
Sensei hated liven and has been trying to kill himself the entire show, why in the world did you think he would change or drop the bottle?
@ejleon Every arc/episode shows his common sense compared to evil guys/other side characters (since he's the "wise" mc) all the time which wasn't particularly different in this one. And I drop out now cause as I implied, I was hoping for some character development which still hasn't happened. Plus it is cumulative pain - I felt less and less motivated to watch each ep for the past few weeks already. |
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