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Jun 25, 4:48 PM
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Reply to MiamoreCash
Probably the worst episode of Mushoku Tensei so far. Rudeus didn't stop for even a second to think about his pregnant wife and just straight up cheated on her with Roxy. It doesn't matter if she took advantage of him, he's a grown-up, married man and should take responsibility for his actions, but we all know that he never truly will. He'll get his harem where everyone will be loved "equally" and everyone will live happily ever after. Such bullshit.
@MiamoreCash I must inform you that you are wrong lol
Jun 25, 7:38 PM
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I swear the sad version of the opening is always getting me
Jun 25, 8:55 PM

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bro got his second wife, lost his dad in the process though. this episode was wild, shawty took advantage of Rudy while he was down and depressed, can't wait for the last episode of this season.
Jun 25, 8:56 PM
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Absolute garbage.
Jun 26, 12:02 AM
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TWO SWORDS BETTER THAN ONE
Jun 26, 12:50 AM
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bruh wtf was this.
Jun 26, 4:30 AM

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@Ba-Cii10 you know that the poll of mushoku tensei is always botted? The 50% isn't genuine. And it's gonna get fixed sooner or later.
@mshfqtny I still have to wait a long time for this "fix"?
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Reply to Ba-Cii10
@mshfqtny I still have to wait a long time for this "fix"?
@Ba-Cii10 3.6 to 4.0
So?
It didn't go down as you said
Gone up instead

If you're not convinced then research a bit. Go to old episode's discussions and you'll see people talking about the bots.

Even somebody here replied agreeing with me

The number of 1 stars were around 30% at that time and now it's 13% which is a huge difference
mshfqtnyJun 26, 5:31 AM
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animejas said:
Pretty intense episode as a whole, Mushoku Tensei sure does love having an episode like this that would drive controversial conversations after a big action-packed episode, reminiscent of season 1 around this time.

It was really good as a whole but emotionally conflicting. I read this in the books as well and with volume 12 being my favorite, I felt like it was an emotional rollercoaster with the highs, the intense moments, the action but also moments like these that make Mushoku Tensei, Mushoku Tensei. Rudeus being that vulnerable and empty was broken and he had his regrets strike further with how he didn't give his parents a chance in his old life and now he lost Paul and his mother's in an abnormal condition as well. Roxy had her own convictions to save Rudeus no matter what, even if it is using an old-fashioned and quite controversial move that she did, especially knowing that he had a wife and soon-to-be-born kid on the way too. It was an episode that was emotionally conflicting but effective, and with each passing minute, Rudeus seems and feels more and more like Paul (in good ways and bad ones too), and that he has a lot of growing up to do to make up for the mistakes he makes. Whether it is to Sylphie, his family or in the future with his actions, he has to grow and mature as now he's technically the head of their family too. Elinalise also talking about her own values on love and multiple partners helped Rudeus' decision making a bit, since for her, Roxy is a friend she grew close to throughout the Demon Continent journey besides also being Sylphie's grandmother. Ultimately, Rudeus wants to take responsibility for what he did and like how Sylphie saved Rudeus in the past, Roxy saved Rudeus now when he was too broken to call for help and no one else could help him out while at this state.

As far as Roxy's motives go, it was indeed flawed and even though I love Roxy as a character, it was wrong of her to do so. But that's what this series has built up, flawed characters making flawed decisions. Roxy wanted to help Rudeus and in a way, also want to take advantage partly for herself but it shows that even she feels emotionally conflicted about everything and wanted to help Rudeus out while she deals with the struggles of the one person she actually loved and felt like she had a chance with, be taken away already before she had that real chance in the first place. Roxy's been sort of a perfect person that everyone loved early on but this series has built its ground on flawed characters that had to develop, grow from their mistakes and Roxy is a part of that here. I don't condone what she did but as a character, there is more to her than the surface presented early on.

Now, there were details skipped in this episode that sadly got cut due to pacing constraints since there really is not much time left to add what they could, like Roxy's conversation with Geese and Elinalise, or even another detail like Elinalise lying to Rudeus about Roxy being pregnant to force Rudeus to make a move instead of being wishy-washy. It's a shame those got cut but I feel like the episode still did a very effective job as a whole with the various emotions in play throughout the situation. Only one more episode to go, and the conversations at home about this whole ordeal not just with Paul's death, but Rudeus and Roxy is going to be quite the spectacle to say the least. Production was really solid and I did enjoy the episode a lot, just needed a couple more minutes to add a couple more details to be even better. Ironic since they even skipped the opening to add more. At least the additions with the Rudeus POV of his past life and regrets did help out with his characterization and his reflections gave depth that was needed here.

I will say this, the irony of showing the ED with Rudeus and Sylphie after what took place in this episode was unironically hilarious and painful at the same time.

They need a director's cut to get those left out details back in! That would've made it a completely different viewpoint.
Jun 26, 6:43 AM
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holy moly bro gonna have 2 wifes like wow. rip arm. wonder what sylphie will think of this.
Jun 26, 7:19 AM
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disgusting. what an idiot
Jun 26, 8:18 AM
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Well, I just hope the community can come to terms with Rudy’s decision. It wasn’t the most popular thing he did even back in the web novel where it first started but I think it’s something that will make sense later on as the story progresses.
Jun 26, 11:32 AM

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This season has been pretty shit and this episode finally gave reason to drop it. Rudeus has always been a bit difficult character to like and now he is just a worthless cunt so no reason to follow this trash anymore.
Jun 26, 1:17 PM

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I hate Elinalise. Your friend feeling more important than your own granddaugher ?!
Jun 26, 1:26 PM

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The worst we predicted happen...
I get it why people are dropping the show

He cant just stay with Sylphy? Thats totally immoral
Worst is, Elinalyse is the one who pushed him to accept Roxy, wtf, she's Sylphy grand mother !

And we know next episode, she's gonna say yes, even if he made a promise to her, being loyal to her blabla, my ass...

More wrong, he hated Paul for doing what is about to do, and in the end he just laugh like "we're the same" and accept it

I love this series, but this relationship is ruining it, sadly
We may love to see harems, but not here when characters developped deep relationships and breaking promises
SerahKyuJun 26, 1:30 PM
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sublime marvellous great direction the animation simply PEAK
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Reply to SerahKyu
The worst we predicted happen...
I get it why people are dropping the show

He cant just stay with Sylphy? Thats totally immoral
Worst is, Elinalyse is the one who pushed him to accept Roxy, wtf, she's Sylphy grand mother !

And we know next episode, she's gonna say yes, even if he made a promise to her, being loyal to her blabla, my ass...

More wrong, he hated Paul for doing what is about to do, and in the end he just laugh like "we're the same" and accept it

I love this series, but this relationship is ruining it, sadly
We may love to see harems, but not here when characters developped deep relationships and breaking promises
@SerahKyu and why is it immoral? If all involved are happy - why ruin their happiness by arbitrarily standards? Sylphy too was okay with concubine.

Retorical question: do married must have only single child so that he would get atmost love from the parents? Or is it okay to have 2 childs and love them both equally even though spending less time for each individually?
Jun 26, 8:19 PM

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I got spoiled on the polygamy while the first season was airing and obviously knew what I was getting into, but how this all went down is so fucked up. Roxy - Rudeus's master who knew and partly raised Rudeus since he was a little boy - took advantage of him. Right after his father just died and all while knowing he already has a wife and incoming child. Her excuse was shit. And Rudeus went ahead and asked for her hand, without even consulting Sylphie first, when he'd promised her and multiple other people that he'd be forever faithful. And what kind of grandmother-in-law would try to persuade her grandson-in-law to cheat on his wife? That's beyond fucked up. All of these characters are trash.


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Jun 27, 9:11 AM

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Rudeus proving to be a great example of a husband and father. 🤡
Jun 27, 12:13 PM
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My favorite anime right now.
Jun 27, 11:07 PM
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I wonder if it’s also a coincidence that this episode aired on the same week as Roxy’s seiyuu’s birthday
Jun 27, 11:46 PM
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Jul 2021
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i dont think i like the idea of rudy duel wielding might be just me tho
Jun 29, 12:04 AM
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I love that the author wasn't afraid to break real world social norms. This is a different world with different cultures as well as societal standards and they ACT like it.
Jun 29, 12:09 AM
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Reply to Softhenic03
I mean I don’t know what kind of sources the author was taking into reference when he started writing this thing.. whenever he did, but I really hope those articles emphasizing the fact that “SEX CAN CURE DEPRESSION OR IT CAN HEAL PEOPLE, PHYSICALLY OR MENTALLY”, weren’t one of those. I don’t want to blame those articles after all.

As I mean, where or when in the world has it been stated that to mourn or get over the deaths of your loved ones, the first thing you should do is go and have sex????? Lmaooo, of 1000 ways to convince someone that someone else is suffering, we went down the brazzers way? Lol. Roxy and her reasons aside, I kind of really don’t agree with her way of “helping” here. Anyway, curing your mother or feeling low after your father’s death can go to hell, let’s settle up the marriage thing first… second one:)
@Softhenic03 I mean if youve ever been in a really bad place mentally sometimes you need something to just give a small nudge to get you to move your feet. Any good experience would do it but sex is.. "ol reliable" I guess? Especially in certain peoples eyes lol. They think pretty simply about certain things in this world that's been a pretty consistent thing in regards to mental stuff.

The anime didn't make it clear but Rudeus was in that room without coming out for way too long. It was also heavily encouraged my Elinalise who is.... you know... so it makes sense her solution would be sex. Thats kinda her whole thing lol
Jun 29, 7:06 AM
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nice episode, finally rudy express his feeling to roxy!
Jun 29, 2:58 PM

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"I promised Sylphie I'd stay faithful. I have to keep that promise."

uhhh, bruh, I hate to tell you but that ship already sailed. This is why I was against the idea of him getting married. You're a kid. And what's he gonna do if/when Red pops up again perhaps with his kid in tow? smh
Jun 29, 4:27 PM
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bruh nah way they did that
Jun 30, 1:25 AM
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i cry too ez this whack ass anime slaps me up
Jun 30, 8:53 AM
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Lovely anime, can't wait for the next season.
Jun 30, 1:19 PM

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Actually going back to read some of these comments about the episode showed me how easily upset people can get when you show them a culture different from their own.
People can really act like they've just witnessed some horrible atrocity from an alien world, even when this kind of thing literally happens right here on planet Earth, and there's nothing really inherently immoral about it (unless you are adhering to a religion)


The fact that this episode left out a LOT of context behind each character's decisions really doesn't help.
I thought Roxy was just making a dumb decision out of inexperience (I kept saying to myself "Really?? There are so many better ways to handle this."), but it was apparently not nearly as out-of-nowhere, in the novel.
I thought the episode was intentionally being controversial, and I had a 10/10 experience watching it, but this part of the novel, while still very obviously controversial, was not nearly as upsetting, confusing, or uncomfortable as the adaptation.

Also, I loved Elinalise's reason for why she supported the polygamy lol. If there's anyone in the universe who would support polygamy & open sexuality, it'd be her lol. It'd go against her entire existence as a character to do anything else.

As a side note, apparently in the novel Rudy kinda almost pretty much TOLD ROXY ABOUT HIS PAST LIFE (in that "I have this friend- not me -who had this problem..." kinda way), which is an important piece of information to know for the future story involving Roxy.
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Such a wholesome episode.
Roxy finally expressed her "love" for Rudy and cured his depression. I just want to hug her and protect her at all cost.
Rudeus got himself a wonderful second wife who will support him to old age.

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not the worst episode thus far but the standards for this series is quite low, so when i began watching i was not expecting an harem show but by the end of the first season i figured this was more or less where it was going, my guess is that the extremelly annoying red haired one will be the next to join the harem... an theres even a possibility of a fourth one later

the only thing that surprised me is that it does look like he wont be getting his hand back, i thought it shouldnt be impossible to recover it due to you know, magic stuff but it looks like that wont happen
Jul 1, 3:09 AM
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Aaaaaaaand he did it with Roxy now, he finally got his time with all three girls and seems like it made him feel better after being depressed due to the situation... anyway they're going back to their lands and that was sure a weird ass shy wedding proposal to Roxy lol to just ask her if she would change her name to Rudy's one, but now he needs Sylphie's approval anyway, we'll see...
Jul 1, 6:50 AM
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Even though I am not fully happy with Rudeus's choice, I like how naturally it is integrated into the story. Good for him and Roxy. I thought I would dislike her, but on contrary I like very much.
Jul 1, 11:55 AM
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I had already guessed the premise in the previous seasons but wanted to continue watching just to give this anime a second chance. It is becoming the usual cheap harem anime where the main character is more depressed for than shinji from evangelion. In my opinion it is pointless to continue viewing for me it remains an anime with huge potential in the first season but totally wasted in the later ones. Dropped.
Jul 1, 12:06 PM

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What happened to Mushoku Tensei? I feel like I'm watching polycule propaganda. Roxy decides sex will make everything better, and Rudeous just confesses to Roxy after swearing his undying love to Sylphiette? Like WTF? I feel like Sylphiette would be against all this, but will agree to it because it'll make Rudy happy after he just lost his parents.
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Avid enjoyer of Sci-fi, mysteries, and serious drama anime, although anything with good writing could probably hook me in. Love is War doesn't apply to any of these, but the dub still gets my 10/10. Anyways, Rio Futaba is best girl.
Jul 2, 5:46 AM
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It's ok. But, cuz there're some skipped momments that makes me disappointed. One of them is monolog story of rudeus about his parents in japan
Jul 2, 6:34 AM
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"How greedy can you be" all jokes aside I didn't expect roxy to come up like that. this is a very interesting development
Jul 2, 12:21 PM

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There are other ways to help him other than sleeping with him btw..

It's not like I'm totally against him having multiple wives, but just the way its done and the situation surrounding it is just.. IDK how to feel about it but it's not a good feeling
Jul 4, 3:08 AM

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NOOOOO WHY WOULD YOU CHEAT ON SYLPHIE 😭
Jul 5, 8:38 PM

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Not the age gap, This is unacceptable, DECLINED!! >:(
Jul 6, 7:21 AM

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Oh man... I'm really not feeling those new harem vibes, not at all. Seems that just like KonoSuba, Mushoku Tensei will also drop the ball in the last three episodes.
Jul 6, 11:26 AM
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roxy....<3.....
Jul 6, 12:34 PM

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Imagine being just like the man you didn't wanna be like and cheating on your wife who has a baby on the way.

Rudeus gets worse and worse.

Jul 7, 2:02 PM

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rudeus man wtf, one good sex is all he need to heal depression

also elinalise, no it's NOT okay to love more than one person
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Jul 9, 3:26 PM

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I wish anime didn't have to go the trashy route... but then again, that's what this show loves to do for some reason.

People can get mad at me all they want, but this feels like rewarding Rudy for being a scumbag & rewarding Roxy for doing the same thing. Now this show feels like just another trashy harem anime.
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So, adultery is okay ? I see...
Jul 11, 5:02 AM
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Polygamy, let's goooooooo
Jul 11, 3:00 PM
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This is probably the episode I dislike the most in the entire show.

"Hey Sylphie, I kinda slept with someone else whilst I was away, now I want to marry her too because I love her, can you give me permission?"

Honestly, I've yet to watch the next episode, but ANY normal person would leave him then and there. I honestly don't know how some people find this sweet. Maybe it's one of those cases, and I don't like to use this, but if u reverse the genders I wonder if the same amount of people would still find this unproblematic.

This is basically infidelity with an excuse of polygamy. But I think Sylphie will accept it. Still, why does this have to turn into an actual harem anime? U can just have Eris, Roxy and the girl from the first arc of season 2 have a one-sided crush or something... Will his mom become part of his harem too? Lillia? Who knows.

'sigh', I'm really, really turned off about this episode.

My only hope, and I know this ain't gonna happen, is that his harem turns into a polycule where everyone isn't just in love with Rudy... but yeah that's never gonna happen.
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It should have been a longer episode, but oh well...
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