Yoru no Kurage wa Oyogenai Episode 5 Discussion

The time I saw that weird balance between rts and likes last ep, the first thing that came to my mind was that the MV backlashed somehow, and... lol
But the people that came for the "cursed song" that was trending stayed for how good the quality were.
Seeing Mahiru comparing herself to others is painful and relatable. Hopefully she has an amazing friend to back her up. I wish there was someone like Kano for me back then

This is becoming what I feared the most, a yuri bait......

@Rakabat So, in your opinion, the author lied to major yuri doujinshi artists when he said that whether it is yuri depends on the audience? :) A strange decision if they really wanted to make it yuri.

@Ryushindai Yuri bait itself is not so bad as the fact that now 90% talks will only be about this, pushing everything else in the show into the background. Which is actually already happening. Not to mention the people who will call it a masterpiece just because of that or now trying to look for "special meanings" in every interaction they have after this. I'm not against yuri in general, but until they brings some clarity, people will think and talks ONLY about it.

@Embient If you're talking about Yoru's words, then I don't think there was a pun here. Because despite the obvious misunderstanding, her words, even in context, could be read in different ways. Both for the Japanese and for people who know Japanese only based on clichés from anime.

@RobertBobert Did he really say that? I mean based on experience we can conclude if it's yuri or not, and this one is absolute yuri. From teaser PV they released 5 months ago they include sharing umbrella scene between Mahiru and Kano, and yuri illustrator Namori (Yuru-Yuri) did make an illustration of Kano at end of episode. Also the amount of yuri-bait scene is more than usual.



Here if you want to watch the teaser.

@Rakabat People should stop judging any moe fanservice in its depiction of female friendship as an objective reference to yuri. Like calling any moe show yuri bait without being at all familiar with real yuri bait shows like Qeen Blade or Love Live. Because you look like fujoshi who think that any nakama power symbolizes that the characters in shonen are gay. Somewhere after the premiere of the first episode, people directly asked him on Twitter if there would be a yuri show, to which he responded with something along the lines of "the modern definition of yuri is so broad that it will be up to the viewer." If they really intended to make yuri, this answers would clearly be a rather strange decision, especially when they were directly asked about it by famous yuri illustrators and fan artists.

This kiss does make a good argument, but sorry, I won't speculate based on the occasional moe of fanservice here and there.

UPD. I don't know where you got the information about Namori, the anime's official Twitter lists this illustrator https://twitter.com/flyco_ This is Fly, a fairly famous author. Yes, she is an iconic yuri illustrator, but a seemingly easy conclusion would clearly be superficial, considering that she also illustrated the show's writer's harem LN and as we can see, there is nothing suspicious about the illustration. So again, everything is very speculative.

@Embient Oh yeah, that actually sounds like a pun. Considering how they framed it as a cliffhanger, I really wonder what their intentions were.

@RobertBobert Yeah, no offense. Let's just wait next week for certainty.

You have no idea what a yuri bait is

Shock, I don’t interact with every single comment posted on this site.

I will work on my pathetic attitude.

@Rakabat

Well, at this stage I see two options.

1. It starts to go full yuri and the author admits that they were just clumsily trying to keep the suspense without giving any obvious hints. Which seems silly, but makes perfect sense. I’ll try to write to the guy who told me about the author’s tweets, maybe he’s already commented on it somehow.

2. Everything is played out as a silly joke like “I thought you fell in love with me and decided to do you a service” or even stupidly ignored. Again, this seems pretty silly, but not that unusual in a show that tries to straddle two stools.

Well, or the third option. This will really be a well-developed and detailed romance/friendship that will not end up in yuri bait or stupid excuses. I don't believe in Santa Claus, so the chance is slim, but why not?

The only thing I want is regardless of the ending, it doesn't turn into the typical situation where people ignore the plot and ideas of the show to argue about the ships.

@Ryushindai Yuri bait itself is not so bad as the fact that now 90% talks will only be about this, pushing everything else in the show into the background. Which is actually already happening. Not to mention the people who will call it a masterpiece just because of that or now trying to look for "special meanings" in every interaction they have after this. I'm not against yuri in general, but until they brings some clarity, people will think and talks ONLY about it.

@Embient If you're talking about Yoru's words, then I don't think there was a pun here. Because despite the obvious misunderstanding, her words, even in context, could be read in different ways. Both for the Japanese and for people who know Japanese only based on clichés from anime.

@RobertBobert I'm fine as long as something happens, I just hope that scene had some meaning behind it and it isn't just some fan-service

@ShinoAlter explain please all mighty known of everything, that last scene had the same feeling as Kumiko and Reina talk after the hike in Euphonium and after that the community absolutely exploded on yuri talks. Literally the same happening right now

Kano has been paying close attention to Mahiru which thankfully eventually led to her wanting to improve her skill rather than give up again.

On a related note, I've seen some excellent fan art for other animes and video games and never considered that the original creator could hold resentment or feel inadequate like how it was shown in this episode.

This main duo is to me what so many people saw in the Lycoris Recoil duo. What an incredibly likable pair of flawed human characters chasing their dreams. This show is just magical

https://twitter.com/search?q=from%3AYaku_yuki%20%E7%99%BE%E5%90%88&src=typed_query Anyway, here's a keyword search on the show's writer's tweets, if you're interested or know Japanese, you can take a look. Perhaps he will add something new or you will find the answer in old tweets. For now he describes it as a "powerful emotional girl group drama", for some reason not wanting to describe it as yuri. But it could also be Yamada-style, so who knows.

@Marinate1016 Yes, they answered. Because I was responding to his comment with which he responded to your reply to him. And his quote kept that same line, so I didn't need a photographic memory at all, lmao.

@Bandanaa I don't think Chisato and Takina could be called flawed considering they were literally action heroes lol. But okay.

@Rakabat Most people will only care about whether it's yuri or not anyway. So regardless of the author's intentions, I think the decision to leave it up to the viewer's discretion was a smart one. At the moment, judging by his twitter, it seems like he's taking the "important emotional connections" route, lol.

@RobertBobert Yes, I find Takina and Chisato very lacking in comparison to Yoru and Kano here. And it's not like the show being an action show meant they couldn't have more depth.

Jellyfish just has much more compelling characters, regardless of the plot

holy fucking hell.
Just go full yuri with this, I dont give a fuck, even the show dont have GL tag.
more yuri moment is the best.