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Mar 24, 2024 9:37 AM
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So I've read the chainsaw man manga from the beginning and i got to the end of chapter 1, and i liked it, at the time, there were like just 10 chapters from part 2 and i gave it a try, and i liked it, till chapter 125-130 where i started to have questions after each chapter. Are there more chainsaw mans? Why are they cutting his legs in the latest chapters or whatever they are doing? Can someone please explain these 20-30 last chapters?
Mar 24, 2024 10:26 AM
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RobertCh said:
So I've read the chainsaw man manga from the beginning and i got to the end of chapter 1, and i liked it, at the time, there were like just 10 chapters from part 2 and i gave it a try, and i liked it, till chapter 125-130 where i started to have questions after each chapter. Are there more chainsaw mans? Why are they cutting his legs in the latest chapters or whatever they are doing? Can someone please explain these 20-30 last chapters?

I'm in the same position as you. I really enjoyed the first part and then the starting of the second part was good too but now the plot seems all over the place. So much stuff going on. Denji's own problems, Second chainsaw man, I feel like the plot has gotten a bit convoluted.
That isn't to say that I think it's bad but it's just making me feel confused more and more.
Mar 24, 2024 10:37 AM
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RobertCh said:
So I've read the chainsaw man manga from the beginning and i got to the end of chapter 1, and i liked it, at the time, there were like just 10 chapters from part 2 and i gave it a try, and i liked it, till chapter 125-130 where i started to have questions after each chapter. Are there more chainsaw mans? Why are they cutting his legs in the latest chapters or whatever they are doing? Can someone please explain these 20-30 last chapters?

ngl been confused about it too,
I think the other chainsaw mans are people that want to be him? or just want chainsaw man

and then for the cutting him part I really dont know there could be several different reasons why


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Mar 24, 2024 10:48 AM
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RobertCh said:
So I've read the chainsaw man manga from the beginning and i got to the end of chapter 1, and i liked it, at the time, there were like just 10 chapters from part 2 and i gave it a try, and i liked it, till chapter 125-130 where i started to have questions after each chapter. Are there more chainsaw mans? Why are they cutting his legs in the latest chapters or whatever they are doing? Can someone please explain these 20-30 last chapters?

I'm in the same position as you. I really enjoyed the first part and then the starting of the second part was good too but now the plot seems all over the place. So much stuff going on. Denji's own problems, Second chainsaw man, I feel like the plot has gotten a bit convoluted.
That isn't to say that I think it's bad but it's just making me feel confused more and more.

Fr. If part 2 is going to continue like this, it would've been better to just end it on part one.
Mar 24, 2024 11:03 AM
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part two makes no sense tbh
Mar 24, 2024 12:11 PM
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ikr part 2 kinda confusing me too. ive tried rereading cz sometimes the new chapters come late and id have forgotten parts of wht had happened, i thought tht was the issue, but tht didnt help too. anyone whos even a bit sure abt the last few chapters, please if you could, help us out!
Mar 24, 2024 12:13 PM
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ikr part 2 kinda confusing me too. ive tried rereading cz sometimes the new chapters come late and id have forgotten parts of wht had happened, i thought tht was the issue, but tht didnt help too. anyone whos even a bit sure abt the last few chapters, please if you could, help us out!

Fr, tho I don't think there are many that understand what happens
Mar 24, 2024 12:14 PM
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thats called being invested in the mystery
Mar 24, 2024 12:16 PM
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thats called being invested in the mystery

What do you mean man?
Mar 24, 2024 12:17 PM
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RobertCh said:
keinboesewicht said:
thats called being invested in the mystery

What do you mean man?

i mean its normal to have questions. they should be answered when the manga finishes
Mar 24, 2024 12:20 PM
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them turning into chainsaw man I think is more random, and has something to do with Fami making a deal or something and trying to make people more scared of Chainsaw Man to fight the last horseman.

They're trying to examine Denji because he's a hybrid I think and because he has special abilities other devils don't.

Neither has been fully revealed I don't think though
Mar 24, 2024 12:24 PM
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They are cutting his legs to prevent him from moving, making him easier to control while hes in "jail." The other stuff is still kind of a mystery. Fami is most likely behind it in some way, I would think. I could be wrong. I don't think it's so crazy that nothing makes sense.

There was a chainsaw man cult doing weird shit and we don't really know much more than that. Like someone said we aren't supposed to know yet. We will see answers in time. Fujimoto always has his reason for his crazy writing/direction.
Mar 24, 2024 12:56 PM
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Part 1 has concluded while Part 2 is still yet to show its true colours
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Mar 24, 2024 1:39 PM
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They are cutting his legs to prevent him from moving, making him easier to control while hes in "jail." The other stuff is still kind of a mystery. Fami is most likely behind it in some way, I would think. I could be wrong. I don't think it's so crazy that nothing makes sense.

There was a chainsaw man cult doing weird shit and we don't really know much more than that. Like someone said we aren't supposed to know yet. We will see answers in time. Fujimoto always has his reason for his crazy writing/direction.

I think they just want to cut Denji in pieces and put every piece in a different place/box/idk in the jail/whatever it is
Mar 24, 2024 2:23 PM
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So, since Part 2 doesn’t make sense, maybe think about where we were during this chapter count in part 1. about 62 chapters, which means somewhere in the middle of National Assasins arc, and tbh if you would've read weekly there, the same kind of confusion would be there as well.

I like to think CSM works at best when a whole Part is concluded.

Even tho I also love to guess what happens next, where could the story head to... to realize you will never understand Fujimoto anyway. It's that what me still makes loving this series so much.
Mar 24, 2024 2:25 PM
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So, since Part 2 doesn’t make sense, maybe think about where we were during this chapter count in part 1. about 62 chapters, which means somewhere in the middle of National Assasins arc, and tbh if you would've read weekly there, the same kind of confusion would be there as well.

I like to think CSM works at best when a whole Part is concluded.

Even tho I also love to guess what happens next, where could the story head to... to realize you will never understand Fujimoto anyway. It's that what me still makes loving this series so much.

yeah, until a big chunk of this part is concluded i will drop it so that i can read it all at the time, without that week gap so i can understand better
Mar 24, 2024 3:09 PM
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Mar 24, 2024 3:16 PM

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RobertCh said:
So I've read the chainsaw man manga from the beginning and i got to the end of chapter 1, and i liked it, at the time, there were like just 10 chapters from part 2 and i gave it a try, and i liked it, till chapter 125-130 where i started to have questions after each chapter. Are there more chainsaw mans? Why are they cutting his legs in the latest chapters or whatever they are doing? Can someone please explain these 20-30 last chapters?

ngl been confused about it too,
I think the other chainsaw mans are people that want to be him? or just want chainsaw man

and then for the cutting him part I really dont know there could be several different reasons why
@wallus81

the chainsaw man "zombies" are people who unknowingly made contracts with the fire devil, lured by the chainsaw man church into thinking they were getting powers from the justice devil. barem and fami orchestrated it so that these contracts would all active at the same time, which is why we had that scene with thousands of people around the city spontaneously transforming. the details on why the fire devil is able to chainsaw-ify people are a bit fuzzy, though...

the whole reason this is happening is because fami plans to defeat the death devil, who the nostrodamus prophecy says is to be arriving very soon. a global war against chainsaw man zombies = the populations fear of chainsaw man and war increasing. so, in other words, fami wants to get denji and asa/yoru really strong to fight off the death devil. shrimple!!

we dont know anything about that one "chainsaw man imposter" though, literally zero information.

sorry for the random explanation dump, just hope this generally helps with understanding the direction of the story.
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@wallus81

the chainsaw man "zombies" are people who unknowingly made contracts with the fire devil, lured by the chainsaw man church into thinking they were getting powers from the justice devil. barem and fami orchestrated it so that these contracts would all active at the same time, which is why we had that scene with thousands of people around the city spontaneously transforming. the details on why the fire devil is able to chainsaw-ify people are a bit fuzzy, though...

the whole reason this is happening is because fami plans to defeat the death devil, who the nostrodamus prophecy says is to be arriving very soon. a global war against chainsaw man zombies = the populations fear of chainsaw man and war increasing. so, in other words, fami wants to get denji and asa/yoru really strong to fight off the death devil. shrimple!!

we dont know anything about that one "chainsaw man imposter" though, literally zero information.

sorry for the random explanation dump, just hope this generally helps with understanding the direction of the story.
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the fire devil stuff I like barely was following and was so confused about it lmao

this does clear up some stuff though, thanks


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Mar 24, 2024 5:11 PM
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Yeah honestly part 1 is classic but part 2 up till like you said 125-130 has just been way too all over the place and everywhere to the point where I just stopped enjoying it and I don’t really understand what’s happening which sucks because I really really loved part 1. I honestly loved the slow burn build up early part 2 was going for too, seeing Denji kinda mature after what happened hit diff
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Mar 24, 2024 5:20 PM
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I also feel very confused but I feel like by the end of part 2 we’ll have some crazy masterpiece, knowing fujimoto it will probably be, or it will end weirdly and it’s going to be a piece of shit
Mar 24, 2024 5:39 PM
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I'm happy to hear that I'm not alone in finding this part confusing and all over the place. I have faith that he'll tie it all together by the end but I do feel a little bit lost right now. It doesn't help that some of the character designs look similar, like Asa and Fumiko, I get confused about which character I'm looking at sometimes. I'm excited to see where it goes though, I especially want to see how Nayuta will factor in to the story
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We don’t know why they’re cutting him up yet. Some theories are that they’re gonna try and feed his body parts so others can become stronger for the Apocalypse. But again we don’t know.

People are becoming chainsaw men because they were a part of the CSM cult I’m pretty sure and it’s a plot by Fami so that people will fear chainsaws, in turn CSM becomes stronger. Just like how we saw Yoru becoming stronger because civilians fear a war is coming.

I can understand why longtime fans aren’t feeling it, though. There is no set villain yet (unless you count Death Devil) or that we know of even in the arcs, unlike Part 1, how Katana was the first major antagonist, for example.

Ultimately, the author did say Part 2 was gonna be very different.
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I'm happy to hear that I'm not alone in finding this part confusing and all over the place. I have faith that he'll tie it all together by the end but I do feel a little bit lost right now. It doesn't help that some of the character designs look similar, like Asa and Fumiko, I get confused about which character I'm looking at sometimes. I'm excited to see where it goes though, I especially want to see how Nayuta will factor in to the story

There’s a theory that Asa and Fumiko are supposed to be mirrors of each other. Considering how they interact with Denji/CSM, I kind of believe it.
Mar 24, 2024 10:17 PM

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The other Chainsaw people are members of the church who made contract with the fire devil who has the ability to turn people into whatever form they desire. This was all part of the CSM church's plan who want to power up Chainsaw Man so that he could fight the death devil.

The identity of the original fake Chainsaw Man that killed Yuko is not known. Though it is likely that he has a contract with the Fire devil as well.

As far as the public safety apprehending Denji is concerned. We don't know what they plan to do with Denji's body parts that they are collecting. This arc is still ongoing but they definitely have some nefarious plans for him.

Mar 25, 2024 9:28 AM

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omg I can't understand anything from this part! can someone please explain to me these things that will obviously be explained in future chapters 😭😭😭
Mar 25, 2024 9:45 AM
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fami is the mastermind she wants to kill the death devil and to do so she is making chainsaw man and war devil very strong like by making humanity fear war again for example to empower the war devil
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I’ll assume they’re just cutting his legs to put him in place for the time being and there’s probably more reasons for that which would be explained later.

For the time being, it seems Fami has been orchestrating all of the events of Part 2 under the guise of preventing Nostradamus Prophecy, whether that’s true or not is still a mystery. But her actions are inherently causing a lot of deaths and misery especially for Denji and Asa, which is probably intended to pacify them and make them desperate enough to cooperate with her.
Mar 26, 2024 8:19 AM
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they're cutting Denji apart because he's property of the state. And Fami is planning to cut Denji's head off for Asa to use as a weapon. That is why she brought Guilly with her because they're a guillotine.
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Even if things don’t make sense now, I figure it will all come together later. You don’t watch a mystery movie and get mad that the mystery hasn’t been revealed in the first 20 minutes right? Same thing here, just gotta let the story cook and see how everything ties together.
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you have to give time for the dots to connect, otherwise don't read weekly and just wait for this arc to near its conclusion and then read it. i'm personally a big fan of unpredictable stories like this which raise a lot of questions and start to make sense as it goes toward its end.
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Let the mangaka cook, I didn't like the pacing in part 1, but overall I enjoyed the story that was told then, so wait the whole story to be told before jumping to conclusion.
Mar 27, 2024 10:58 PM
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I hope Fujimoto knows what he is doing. Cause I feel like we get lots of set up and do not quite get the payoff, so when it all comes together I hope to not get blueballed again.
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Mar 29, 2024 11:01 AM
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tbh I am in the same position too
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Honestly I am really likening part two. I find it really interesting and am glad that part two is going in a different direction. I feel like a big theme of part two is celebrity and how people that become famous can lose their identity.
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This briefly explains until recent chapters, but you gotta turn on the subtitles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWVMa9VOUsc
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I'm in the same boat. Enjoyed part 1, confused with part 2. Reading the thread though made me feel better that I'm not the only one confused!
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Author himself doesn't know what he wants to achieve in the story anymore
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I gave up all my motivation and enthusiasm for Part 2 a long time ago. Sure, it's still kinda readable and I can still see Fuji's witty story-telling talent deep down, but it's long past the level that made me love the first part so much (and I still do). The most terrible aspect is hands down the new characters and how they are handled (or should I say NOT handled, since almost all of them are either lackluster or just as flat as a paper).

I won't even go further to mention the lack of focus in the story, the rather confusing motivations, the degrade of the artwork or the small things that gave Part 1 so much soul, like the chapter covers or the creative panel usage.
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Even if things don’t make sense now, I figure it will all come together later. You don’t watch a mystery movie and get mad that the mystery hasn’t been revealed in the first 20 minutes right? Same thing here, just gotta let the story cook and see how everything ties together.
@thebrentinator24 Well, there's generally a key difference. Mystery movies usually still remains relatively coherent throughout and tends to at least give you threads to follow. Of course you may not fully understanding EVERYTHING, otherwise it wouldn't be a mystery, but they're not just random mumbo jumbo until the last 20 minutes.

Part 2 is not something I'd equate to the usual mystery. So far it's just all over the place.
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I don't recall much from part 2 and pretty much stopped caring since then.




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Chainsaw Man has finished the Part 1.
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I gave up all my motivation and enthusiasm for Part 2 a long time ago. Sure, it's still kinda readable and I can still see Fuji's witty story-telling talent deep down, but it's long past the level that made me love the first part so much (and I still do). The most terrible aspect is hands down the new characters and how they are handled (or should I say NOT handled, since almost all of them are either lackluster or just as flat as a paper).

I won't even go further to mention the lack of focus in the story, the rather confusing motivations, the degrade of the artwork or the small things that gave Part 1 so much soul, like the chapter covers or the creative panel usage.
@Junchi Absolutely agree with every word you typed. I understand sort of where he’s going with this is, but everything is so jarbled and the new characters so underwhelmingly lacklustre that it ends being a big bunch of meh.
He should have ended it with part 1 and waited some years to cook with 2.
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I don't think you're necessarily supposed to understand literally what's going on. I read Fire Punch before I started reading Part 1 of Chainsaw Man(while it was still releasing) and I can say that by Fujimoto's standards, Part 1 being more normal shounen is what stands out. The actual story is usually not where you find the meaning and artistry of a Fujimoto creation imo. You get more out of it if you look at it abstractly/metaphorically.
Now, would I appreciate if I could also understand what's happening? Yeah, maybe, but I know to not expect that from the start lol.
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To me part 2 is the definition of being all over the place. Like, Fujimoto throws out ideas all over the board, and then starts to shuffle them. Some connect between each other while some don't.

I find myself constantly in a loop of liking what I am seeing and being bored out of my fucking mind, and the switch is very frequent, so yeah I get your point.

Part 1 is extremely straightforward, meanwhile psrt 2 goes here and there, but so far it hasn't gotten deep anywhere. Now I do feel like we will get the dots connected once they dwell into "Nostradamus' prohecies" but who knows when will that be, and part 2 is already pretty long without any plot development.
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Part 2 is still fun to read though.
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part 2 kinda confusing me too. ive tried rereading cz sometimes the new chapters come late and id have forgotten parts of wht had happened, i thought tht was the issue, but tht didnt help too. anyone whos even a bit sure abt the last few chapters.

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