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Jan 2, 2024 1:32 PM
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thoughts on this internet rule? is it still relevant in 2023? whats the thoughts of the new generations about this? heck is ecchi and hentai dying? like do you see a lot of the new hentai have bad animation so not much budget and sakuga for them anymore?

inspired by this https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=2138699
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Jan 2, 2024 2:17 PM
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hentai, yes, rule34 no or maybe more restricted in future. big tech company like google are allergic to porn. idk about the ecchi one. maybe it is dying i maybe not. we are getting already chained soldier in 2024. that is good start for 2024.
Jan 2, 2024 2:26 PM
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I feel rule 34 was too much a meme where people would just draw things just to be the first to draw it which is a stupid motivation.

I think the industry is suffering from various regulations that set them back in unnecessary ways.
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Jan 2, 2024 2:28 PM
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maybe generative ai art will save rule 34 but ye big companies like google are censoring more for sure

also how many ecchi are made each season now? 2-4 tv anime each season? if so that is the same number of mecha anime each season now
Jan 2, 2024 2:36 PM
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maybe generative ai art will save rule 34 but ye big companies like google are censoring more for sure

also how many ecchi are made each season now? 2-4 tv anime each season? if so that is the same number of mecha anime each season now
@deg
This is one of the reasons why
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Jan 2, 2024 2:39 PM
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@traed just skimming it its just labeling all porn to adult consumerism and i do not see any big impact on that but ye maybe it has a big impact im not sure
Jan 2, 2024 2:42 PM
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isn't H art bigger these days? like think about the early 2010s, how many H art we had of our favorite girls? and look now how much H is with Fern, from an anime which started airing 3 months ago.
And hentai anime is doing fine, it's the same as always. As for ecchi, we literally have 4 true ecchi anime this winter
Jan 2, 2024 2:53 PM
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@traed just skimming it its just labeling all porn to adult consumerism and i do not see any big impact on that but ye maybe it has a big impact im not sure
@deg
You didnt read right parts then. It made it so certain topics cant be used in manga without it being sectioned off to an 18+ even though it isnt pornographic and this effected the industry.
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Jan 2, 2024 3:20 PM
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I had the assumption that the really ecchi anime was dying off due to lack of interest. You know, because there are easier ways to get nude boobage than buying multiple volumes of an uncensored anime, which I'm pretty sure is fairly expensive over there. But Maybe I was wrong if winter is anything to go by.

Rule 34 though isn't dead/dying. Unless you count ai "art" taking it over as being dead, then in which case lets throw it a funeral right now.
Jan 2, 2024 3:34 PM

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I feel like rule 34 is bigger right now. Sure the meme itself isn't as popular but since ai generated images have become common, so have ai generated hentai, which is basically rule 34.
Hentai quality wise isn't bad right now. I don't think it's dying at all.
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Jan 2, 2024 4:16 PM

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No, it is not dying, the art of making arts will not die.


But I noticed the hate and persecution from the "good censorship" community grew in relation to animes with ecchi, hentai, BL, lolicon; they want everything to be healthy and representative.

Could this affect hentai works? I don't know, we need answers from someone more experienced in this matter.

Is Rule 34 dying? Two weeks after Frieren's anime was released, a bunch of art related to the anime appeared... So Rule 34 isn't dead.

Jan 2, 2024 4:32 PM

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Hentai has been consistently bad for years now.

As for r34, you can always check twitter. All the good anime porn is there.
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Jan 2, 2024 4:42 PM

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deg said:
thoughts on this internet rule? is it still relevant in 2023? whats the thoughts of the new generations about this? heck is ecchi and hentai dying? like do you see a lot of the new hentai have bad animation so not much budget and sakuga for them anymore?


If you were to look at the internet as a whole only the lowest estimate has been made that only about 4% of it actually consists of pornography and sexual content. This would probably surprise a lot of Users who actively use the internet specifically to view sexual content regularly.

Ecchi has always been just a niche theme only associated with Anime but just looking at what gets released in the west recently it's become a less prevalent focus in the broader sense where companies that license Anime don't even bother to consider producing dubbed versions of a large majority of Ecchi Anime let alone consider producing a physical release for domestic distribution compared to what they use to do even a decade ago.

I have stated this before but Anime is simply more popular when it gets dubbed and when you have multiple titles that don't even get touched to be dubbed for local distribution you're already looking at cutting how many actually watch it in half.

Hentai has already been kind of a dead industry out side of Japan for a long time because no one actually buy it anymore in the west. Companies don't really even license Hentai for distribution outside of Japan anymore and anything that is found in the West is simply just due to piracy. Which is one of the reasons why Hentai has become simply apart of Japans adult video industry sometime after the 2010s.

I would say rule 34 still exists but times have changed and things have become more monetized and region locked. So unless you know exactly where to look you could have a hard time finding that rule 34 is really relevant in 2023.


Jan 2, 2024 4:43 PM

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Yes it is, you can find a lot of stuff of the most popular shows of the year.

And ecchi and hentai are not dying, there is stuff coming out every season.
Mar 19, 2024 3:02 AM

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Catalano said:
isn't H art bigger these days?

Much bigger and good fan animations that are better than what hentai studios make today.

Professional hentai animation stopped being good in the early 2010s I think.
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There is still lots of artists drawing r34 shit.
Ecchi and hentai are getting less and less productions. Fucking woke virus has been eroding the Japan laws and industries for years. It's over for us porn addicts. Even bluray releases are fully censored now. No nipples, no nudity.
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@deg

There’s definitely been a dip in ecchi series
From the 2010s lucky to get one or 2 a season

one thing I have also noticed
Is that we’re getting a (I can’t believe it’s not hentai
As least once a year


Example

Interspecies reviewers
World end harem
Redo of healer
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Hentai has been consistently bad for years now.

As for r34, you can always check twitter. All the good anime porn is there.
@Yuu_Kanzaki


I wouldn’t say years but we’re lucky to get a good hentai
Every so often


2014: Isekai Kita no de Sukebe Skill (Only good hentai this year so far and it’s a continuation of a few year ago)


2013: only had a few titles


Enjo Kouhai
Sukebe Elf Tanbouki


@BigBoyAdvance


That why you should watch it on AKI-H
They remove the censorship

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Rule 34 was a meme (at least to most people) but even taking it seriously it impossible for every character/scenario to have porn made of it. There are too many characters/scenario's being made/that could be made and too little artist to cover it all.
Go read Berserk and One Piece they're the best thing ever
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There will always be a demand for porn. Always.
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deg thinks rule 34 is an actual rule set into law
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Rule 34 is more of a myth than anything.

I can prove it right now. "Black Magic M-66" has been around since 1987 and have yet to see any real adult themed Doujinshi let alone simple erotic fan art revolving around this franchise to this day. Of course that could change by some random user reading this simply just to be reactive and make it exist.
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ColourWheel said:
"Black Magic M-66" has been around since 1987 and have yet to see any real adult themed Doujinshi let alone simple erotic fan art revolving around this franchise to this day

It should be "if people know it exists" instead of "if it exists."
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Hentai will be fine. There's more of it now than there ever was at any point in history. Same with doujins.
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There is still lots of artists drawing r34 shit.
Ecchi and hentai are getting less and less productions. Fucking woke virus has been eroding the Japan laws and industries for years. It's over for us porn addicts. Even bluray releases are fully censored now. No nipples, no nudity.
@BigBoyAdvance preach my brother preach ecchi feels like it’s not even ecchi even in the Blu-rays are shit and H production is trash no effort not like before, look at the trash majin label puts of 15 minutes H with 3 minutes H scenes lol the people that say it’s not dying are actually not watching the H releases every month

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Hentai will be fine. There's more of it now than there ever was at any point in history. Same with doujins.
@LoveLikeBlood here’s the thing more doesn’t equal quality they release a lot but almost half of em are bad in quality and I’m a H addict that watches every H adaptation at the end of the month and I can tell you they aren’t brilliant when you compare the effort and love on past works compared today

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Hentai will be fine. There's more of it now than there ever was at any point in history. Same with doujins.
@LoveLikeBlood here’s the thing more doesn’t equal quality they release a lot but almost half of em are bad in quality and I’m a H addict that watches every H adaptation at the end of the month and I can tell you they aren’t brilliant when you compare the effort and love on past works compared today

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There is still lots of artists drawing r34 shit.
Ecchi and hentai are getting less and less productions. Fucking woke virus has been eroding the Japan laws and industries for years. It's over for us porn addicts. Even bluray releases are fully censored now. No nipples, no nudity.
@BigBoyAdvance I think this is more of a consequence of the stupid and backwards porn censorship law that the LDP dinosaurs keep refusing to repeal. Like, why is this still a thing in 2024?
Also, what in the hell has Ken Akamatsu been doing over in the Senate of Japan? He's been a senator for TWO FULL YEARS, AND HE STILL HASN'T INTRODUCED A BILL THAT WOULD BENEFIT MANGAKA AND ANIME STUDIOS. If I was a Japanese voter I would never vote for a party as obsessed with appeasing American occupators as the LDP is.
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Rule 34, or lewd arts in general have actually increased in quality and quantity (with the exception of dreadful AI art) and will continue to do so, maybe some purists or enraged children at twitter will try to convince you that they're winning a non existent war, or that you need to touch grass, but Nudity will always have a crucial place in the euqation.

Maybe Hentai anime is declining, as it honestly never innovates and sticks to doing the same plotpoint over and over again, well, after all, it's literally porn, so you can't really complaing there, but the quality of animation is declining. But that's a different topic.

When it comes to lewd artists and lewd content, I believe it's more alive than ever, it's just some spoiled SJW trying to appease the people that bloat about "omg, lewd is bad!" but it's a lost war. The pandemics at 2020 made people extra horny and ever since, there was a surge that keeps increasing.

There is also the chance that people are using the wrong websites to look for lewd art, which, most of the times, will probably lead into you facing those kind of people, which might appear as society is declining in favor of these purists, but the reality is that R34 will forever exists as long as there is demand and people that enjoy drawing.
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The moralfags have finally won, I guess. Don't worry, Near Term Human Extinction will eventually kill them all.
Here is my Pixiv account of my hentai drawings.....

https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/104739065

Here is my blog....

https://theendofindustrialcivilization.blogspot.com/?m=1
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Hentai is bigger now than ever. Ecchi is getting more restricted by the modern anime industry though. People still largely want stuff like ngnl s2.
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No, it's more alive than ever adding AI NSFW pics nowdays.
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The only time I consider something "dead" is when it no longer exists. Hentai sites are still up and japan is still producing hentai so I wouldn't call it dead. Although I do think loli hentai is dyeing (so to speak). Which is depressing.
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Rule 34 isn’t going to die. As long as people are horny and can draw, or use AI, I guess.
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The topic of Rule 34 and the state of the ecchi genre in anime is quite nuanced.

Rule 34 remains relevant in many online communities, especially those centered around fandoms. It reflects the pervasive nature of adult content on the internet, but it’s more of a commentary on internet culture than a rule to be taken literally.

Ecchi hentai Anime: Is It Dying?

The ecchi an hentai genre has seen fluctuations in popularity over the years but it's true that the genre is declining due to several factors like Increased Scrutiny..
As anime becomes more mainstream, it faces greater scrutiny from regulators.. This has led to some studios toning down explicit content to appeal to broader audiences.
Due to Budget Constraints There are concerns about the quality of animation in newer ecchi hentai series, and a decline in production values
The Cultural Shifts of Modern audiences, especially younger generations have different tastes and extreme sensitivities, leading to a shift away from traditional adult 18+ themes..

But ecchi and hentai anime is not entirely disappearing. There are still new releases and a dedicated fanbase that supports these genre.

Big Tech companies like Google, Meta, and X have policies that restrict explicit content to maintain a family-friendly image and comply with various regulations. This affect the distribution and visibility of ecchi anime on their platforms. Additionally, distributors avoid hentai and ecchi content to prevent potential backlash and align with bigger profit margins from big tech companies which are run by oil money from Arab countries.


I feel that these genres are being unfairly targeted.. , the future of ecchi hentai anime will depend on how creators and audiences navigate these shifts.
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The topic of Rule 34 and the state of the ecchi genre in anime is quite nuanced.

Rule 34 remains relevant in many online communities, especially those centered around fandoms. It reflects the pervasive nature of adult content on the internet, but it’s more of a commentary on internet culture than a rule to be taken literally.

Ecchi hentai Anime: Is It Dying?

The ecchi an hentai genre has seen fluctuations in popularity over the years but it's true that the genre is declining due to several factors like Increased Scrutiny..
As anime becomes more mainstream, it faces greater scrutiny from regulators.. This has led to some studios toning down explicit content to appeal to broader audiences.
Due to Budget Constraints There are concerns about the quality of animation in newer ecchi hentai series, and a decline in production values
The Cultural Shifts of Modern audiences, especially younger generations have different tastes and extreme sensitivities, leading to a shift away from traditional adult 18+ themes..

But ecchi and hentai anime is not entirely disappearing. There are still new releases and a dedicated fanbase that supports these genre.

Big Tech companies like Google, Meta, and X have policies that restrict explicit content to maintain a family-friendly image and comply with various regulations. This affect the distribution and visibility of ecchi anime on their platforms. Additionally, distributors avoid hentai and ecchi content to prevent potential backlash and align with bigger profit margins from big tech companies which are run by oil money from Arab countries.


I feel that these genres are being unfairly targeted.. , the future of ecchi hentai anime will depend on how creators and audiences navigate these shifts.

A lot of the hentai artists post on there. They used to on tumblr till that got axed and i havent checked if they ever came back
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A lot of the hentai artists post on there. They used to on tumblr till that got axed and i havent checked if they ever came back
@traed I don't trust Elon Musk... Looks like Dr. Evil but with hair transplant..
He just changes rules and regulations on a whim
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@traed I don't trust Elon Musk... Looks like Dr. Evil but with hair transplant..
He just changes rules and regulations on a whim
@RainyEvenings
Yes it is inconsistent in what they allow
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You can rarely find good hentai these days...
If i remember...
Theres a new incoming eps of Kaede to Suzu from Pink Pineapple...
The 1st 2 eps was good...
Other than that...
You will find a good 1 or 2 new releases every year from hentai...

For rule34...

Just checking sites...
Youll say otherwise...
Just check danbooru & lots of doujins out there...
" Kindness can sometimes lead you to trouble. "

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Hentai suffers too much from pixelation censorship, how dumb are Japanese lawmakers to force their porn industry to cripple their products in this way?
*kappa*
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Hentai suffers too much from pixelation censorship, how dumb are Japanese lawmakers to force their porn industry to cripple their products in this way?
@Zarutaku They're dinosaurs who don't understand anything.
LDP is full of former company directors who don't give a damn about the people.
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Hentai suffers too much from pixelation censorship, how dumb are Japanese lawmakers to force their porn industry to cripple their products in this way?
@Zarutaku
Japanese conservatives believe things US conservatives did in the past (and today in secret) so they think entertainment media should be censored heavily. They keep pushing for more and more censorship.
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Sep 8, 2024 1:58 PM

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I mean in animation maybe? Though the ones you get feel more explicit than those in the past. In terms of VNs, and porn manga though? No way lol, there is way more access than there used to be, even a decade ago, especially if you go outside of the anime/manga sphere into other erotica.
Dec 10, 2024 4:17 AM

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I am not sure if it is becoming less popular, but a larger percentage of ecchi/hentai drawings are now created with AI software than with traditional digital tools. There are fewer and fewer non-AI ecchi/hentai artists these days.
Here is my Pixiv account of my hentai drawings.....

https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/104739065

Here is my blog....

https://theendofindustrialcivilization.blogspot.com/?m=1
Dec 10, 2024 4:19 AM
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"is ecchi and hentai dying?"

Far from dying.
Dec 10, 2024 10:14 PM

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@Zarutaku
Japanese conservatives believe things US conservatives did in the past (and today in secret) so they think entertainment media should be censored heavily. They keep pushing for more and more censorship.
@traed I've noticed more AI galleries are completely uncensored. Really makes a guy realize how much has been missed with all of the mosaics and big black...bars.

Feels like AI in general is exploding in potential. A year ago, I steered clear of it. Now my lifetime collection has tripled because of it.
Dec 10, 2024 10:26 PM

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@traed I've noticed more AI galleries are completely uncensored. Really makes a guy realize how much has been missed with all of the mosaics and big black...bars.

Feels like AI in general is exploding in potential. A year ago, I steered clear of it. Now my lifetime collection has tripled because of it.
@Zekkenshin
Not all decensor is done by AI. Some artists censor in ways easy to reverse like transparent bars or inverted bars are a few examples ive seen. Solid bars can be hand drawn away or with AI but i prefer if everything were true to the original artist uncensored for real.
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Ecchi is nowhere close to dying. As long as fanbases still exist and people still decide to draw it'll always be around. Can't say much about it in a studio focused/professional capacity but ngl it kinda seemed in the bin for years anyway


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Dec 10, 2024 11:02 PM

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Hentai doujins and ecchi art (pixiv) is booming but I think hentai animes have had a noticeable drop in quality in the last 4 years or so in terms of how many studios produce animation that's considered "good quality".

Which is a shame since there are so many good doujins waiting to be adapted but most studios produce shittier animation than what we used to have 5 years ago.
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Hentai anime are dying but hentai doujins is having a renaissance.
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