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hirahira said: Yes, there will be a second season. Was there any OFFICIAL announcement that I've missed? O_o |
game8910 said: the real culprit it No! the real culprit is |
| Someone is the culprit. LOL |
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| Theres tons of theories on who she actually is Maybe she's not related to Rika at all, and she just looks like her or something XD |
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| Though it sounds like "C'mon, Clark Kent obviously isn't Superman", officially Bernkastel isn't Rika. Her origin seems to be Rika, but Ryu07 wouldn't bury his old protagonist like that; Bern is the cruelest witch for a reason. Most people just take her as the accumulation of all the bitterness Rika gathered over the game against 34, because 34 mentions that previous game, and all the obvious winks (Nipah~, name referencing, and the origin of her name itself). Problem with taking Higurashi concepts into Umineko is that it muddles the mixture too much IMO, since Higurashi was mentioned (full name, and in 1986) in the SN by Battler as something he had read, and other media has Maria watching Higurashi/Bern-chan & friends on TV. But then, Okonogi exists in both and he is a character completely rooted in the "real" side of both stories. |
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| Ive not played the VN and I think its safe to say that the anime has missed quite a lot out. Some scenes felt a bit random and was quite hard to follow in parts. I have a question though. Kinzo is dead from the start and there's only 17 people on the island in all games right? So who is the fake Kinzo that shows himself to everyone and why doesn't that make 18 people for that game? |
LolitaDecay said: So bad it wasn't even funny. 1/10 Actually, it was pretty funny. Chiru probably will not be animated with Umineko's already poor DVD/BR sales, and even if it does, well, whatever. Overall, my favourite scene had to be when Ange turned into Raspberry Jam. That finally shut her up. Battler getting trolled in episode 18 was pretty OK too. 1/10 |
Xasper said: Here's my theory after reading the SN. Since the servants (at least a few) keep saying they aren't human, but funiture, I think they aren't part of the 'at least 17 people on the island', in which case there is room for a mysterious person X, which would be the murderer. ep5 |
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Kaiserpingvin said: Xasper said: Here's my theory after reading the SN. Since the servants (at least a few) keep saying they aren't human, but funiture, I think they aren't part of the 'at least 17 people on the island', in which case there is room for a mysterious person X, which would be the murderer. ep5 Just to help, there's a red wich says that furniture count as people. |
| Finally i got around on finishing this. First i want to say that the fans of the Umineko universe must be the most obsessive i have ever seen. Every episode having a huge number of pages mostly by the same people analyzing every detail and difference from the VN and even posting pages before an episode even airs. You guys really love you Umineko(although maybe not the anime that much). Anyway. So in the end Battler finds a way to go around the problem of having to use magic for the killings but he still hasn't found who the killer really is. I would probably have to watch the whole series again to analyze everything and come to a conclusion about the killer but am bored and i must admit am not that crazy about this anime despite liking a good mystery. What i didn't like is how rushed the ending seemed to be. Battler went along for 25 episodes being a real idiot and having a hard time to answer even simple problems and suddenly he became a genius answering everything thrown at him immediately because we where supposed to have some kind of an ending. The scene with his sister bleeding and then disappearing was strange. Ether she bleeds to death or she disappears. What is it? And the two loli withes at the end are still a mystery. Everything seems to be a game played by them but if magic doesn't exist then they shouldn't ether so it's not really there game. Hmmm....... O well! All in all a mediocre show. moldy_tomato said: Lifey said: Ive not played the VN and I think its safe to say that the anime has missed quite a lot out. Some scenes felt a bit random and was quite hard to follow in parts. I have a question though. Kinzo is dead from the start and there's only 17 people on the island in all games right? So who is the fake Kinzo that shows himself to everyone and why doesn't that make 18 people for that game? Battler didn't see him. We can't trust anything Battler hasn't seen or hasn't been said in red. We don't know who was that Kinzo, but it was said in red that everyone in the dining hall recognized Kinzo's existence and that no one would mistake Kinzo by sight. That doesn't answer the question. If everyone recognized Kinzo's existence and it was said in red then there was someone there being the true Kinzo or not. Shouldn't that make the number 18? Except if one of them was Kinzo. Then Kinzo is something like a name for the head of the family no matter who he is? |
MonadJan 13, 2010 1:48 AM
| The ending was horribly rushed indeed. Monad said: The scene with his sister bleeding and then disappearing was strange. Ether she bleeds to death or she disappears. What is it? Ange is allowed in the meta-world at one condition: she mustn’t reveal her name. She broke the rule to help her brother, that’s why she died. Her death is really gruesome in the VN, she is torn apart and when Battler turns back, he sees a pile of bloody minced meat (insert Angeburger joke). Monad said: And the two loli withes at the end are still a mystery. Everything seems to be a game played by them but if magic doesn't exist then they shouldn't ether so it's not really there game. Hmmm....... To make it simple (without spoiling Chiru), Bern and Lambda are pulling all the strings from the beginning. Magic exists in the meta-world but doesn’t in the real world (gameboard). Monad said: Then Kinzo is something like a name for the head of the family no matter who he is? Yep, that’s Battler explanation. |
| Bah this episode was again below average. This season was kinda boring. There's almost no red or blue which makes that whole scene pointless. And they completely skipped Battler finding all the bodies. I'm not happy with how Ange died either. 6/10 is my final score for Umineko. |
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| I keep seeing Bern troll face, can someone inform me what it's all about? As far as the episode. I was highly disappointed. It leaves for a 2nd season which could be cool, but as I watched Umineko I enjoyed it trying to solve the mystery but the last couple episodes really brought my opinion down of the series kind of as a whole. |
vash987 said: I keep seeing Bern troll face, can someone inform me what it's all about? |
| Ahh thank you very much for the info. |
Leopard said: You forgot to mention that Edited for the anime-only viewer's sake. |
dioptaseJan 25, 2010 10:17 AM
| Horrible ending. Overall, mediocre show which had such a huge potential. I must admit I fell in love with the story in the beginning, but that love quickly vanished after such an unconnected events and happenings that it was nearly impossible to follow what the frack is going on. Sure, it's meant to be that way, but some events simply had no sense at all. Not to mention jumping from one event to another with same characters, and not explaining either of the events. Meh, such a disappointment. 5/10 |
| now that i have finished the serie, i have to say, it was ok therefor 7/10. the end disappointed me =/ i have wished, that the end would have been like the fanmade vid but it wouldn't fit since battler had this pissed off atittude the whole serie <.< it annoyed me to hell >.> man really i don't like battler on bit =.= there were also a few thing that had been bothering like the scene were beatrice was upset after battler slap her and so. it felt like something was missing =/ but well, doesn't matter, i will start with the manga now xD and the i have to find a way to get the VN |
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| Fuck all of you guys. 8.5 for me, and that rounds to an 8 or 9. Maybe it's because I haven't read the VN, therefore I don't have anything to compare and bitch about, but that final duel was pretty satisfying - even though it ended in a cliffhanger. Everything was a surprise to me, especially when Beato came back to challenge Battler after offering him victory. Can't wait for the second season. Although I will admit - small bombs in their stomachs? What the fuck, Battler? What the fuck? |
| I hate endings like that. It is a lot of questions and no answers. But in this time I have enjoyed it. 10 for me. Even more - I want to read VN -.- Btw I think Beato isn't such mad and malicious. I want to know what sin was made by Battler 6 years ago. And why Beato has surrendered. Also opening is epic, I like it so much) |
Kenaya said: Also opening is epic, I like it so much) Yeah, forgot to mention that one. Frackin awesome opening. Among the best ones I saw in anime so far. |
| What a stupid ending.... HakoTan said: Well, as expected, this episode was rushed as hell. and,,the ending doesn't make a sense,,, ...why Battler doesn't want to believe magic that much,,even though he DID experiencing of many kind of magic when battle with Beatrice...~I haven't read VN~ |
| Such a cliffhanger T.T Ahh, I hate cliffhangers...I wonder if there'll ever be a sequel. Probably not. Umineko is now on my list of sound novels I want to eventually get around to reading someday. |
| I'm sure there will be a sequel. And if there's not, you can just read the VN to see the rest of the story. |
| I just figured there wouldn't cause I was told the DVD sales were bad. Meh, doesn't matter, I want to read it eventually anyway. |
| It's not over yet. It's just half-way done. And the thing about it not getting a 2nd season because of the DVD sales was just a rumor. I haven't heard anything more about that. And the manga sales are fine so there should at least be an Umineko Chiru manga. |
hirahira said: And the thing about it not getting a 2nd season because of the DVD sales was just a rumor. I haven't heard anything more about that. And the manga sales are fine so there should at least be an Umineko Chiru manga. Hm, but... Why would they make a sequel? Let's list the possibilities. a) To earn money. Soundly nonsense. While most anime end up more or less in the reds, Umineko is in a league of its own. The sales were past abysmal. There's no way anyone can delude themselves into thinking a second season could earn money. b) For the art. Pffahahahaha c) Just because they are jerks. ...Plausible. d) Various licensing issues. I have no idea how licensing work, but somehow they might have thought that it is necessary to splurge out the show as quick as possible to retain some rights somehow. Could be verified. e) Other. Obvious wildcard. So I don't see all that good reason for them to make a second season. Which is good. |
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Kaiserpingvin said: hirahira said: And the thing about it not getting a 2nd season because of the DVD sales was just a rumor. I haven't heard anything more about that. And the manga sales are fine so there should at least be an Umineko Chiru manga. Hm, but... Why would they make a sequel? Let's list the possibilities. a) To earn money. Soundly nonsense. While most anime end up more or less in the reds, Umineko is in a league of its own. The sales were past abysmal. There's no way anyone can delude themselves into thinking a second season could earn money. b) For the art. Pffahahahaha c) Just because they are jerks. ...Plausible. d) Various licensing issues. I have no idea how licensing work, but somehow they might have thought that it is necessary to splurge out the show as quick as possible to retain some rights somehow. Could be verified. e) Other. Obvious wildcard. So I don't see all that good reason for them to make a second season. Which is good. Amen to that. One slaughtered seaon is enough. *goes to read latest manga chapters while putting on the soundtracks for Umineko* Muuuuch better now to wait for the drama CD's *_* |
Darklight0303Feb 7, 2010 1:42 AM
| An unsatisfying answer to so many questions.. I really love the scene between Beatrice and Battler with 'Thank you for being born' in the background. <33 Definitely will check out the visual novel for its awesome music! |
Darklight0303 said: Kaiserpingvin said: hirahira said: And the thing about it not getting a 2nd season because of the DVD sales was just a rumor. I haven't heard anything more about that. And the manga sales are fine so there should at least be an Umineko Chiru manga. Hm, but... Why would they make a sequel? Let's list the possibilities. a) To earn money. Soundly nonsense. While most anime end up more or less in the reds, Umineko is in a league of its own. The sales were past abysmal. There's no way anyone can delude themselves into thinking a second season could earn money. b) For the art. Pffahahahaha c) Just because they are jerks. ...Plausible. d) Various licensing issues. I have no idea how licensing work, but somehow they might have thought that it is necessary to splurge out the show as quick as possible to retain some rights somehow. Could be verified. e) Other. Obvious wildcard. So I don't see all that good reason for them to make a second season. Which is good. Amen to that. One slaughtered seaon is enough. *goes to read latest manga chapters while putting on the soundtracks for Umineko* Muuuuch better now to wait for the drama CD's *_* Lol you (vn-players) sound like you were forced to watch the 26 episodes. I think they will make a 2nd season. Though, I hope that VN players won't watch the entire thing (if they hate it) and in every single episode discussion won't do some useless comparison (that often contain spoilers) that we anime-only viewers don't care about. If you don't like it, don't watch it. Just stick with your little vn and let us anime-only viewers discuss the episode in peace when Chiru comes out. (Which hopefully it will, because it left a cliffhanger). I didn't like the adaptation of Dance in the vampire bund, but am I going to force myself to watch the entire anime and each week whine about it in every single little episode discussion? No, I just dropped it. Simple. |
Rail_TracerFeb 11, 2010 6:07 PM
Rail_Tracer said: If you don't like it, don't watch it. If DEEN animates Chiru, it will generate a huge sh*tstorm every week. And you want us to miss that? No dice. |
| As far as I'm aware, DEEN's already got rights to Chiru I watched the anime without the VN and loved it. I'm now playing the VN's (I'm on Episode 3), and looking back, the anime was still good. People need to stop complaining. Granted, it's not the same experience; not even close, however, it was still a good program, and as far as I'm aware, they hit all the main points. Playing through the VN's so far, I don't think I've gained any new information about any of the murders. The main thing the anime suffers from, in my opinion, is the fact that you can't connect with the some of the characters as well because they simply aren't on-screen long enough. Anyway, this episode was a bit lackluster, but they're clearly building up to the next season, so it's OK in my book: 8/10. Also, I lol'd looking back at the anime at this screen. |
TibbaFeb 12, 2010 10:01 PM
| "The wheel of fate is turning..." |
Tibba said: As far as I'm aware, DEEN's already got rights to Chiru Great news. Now I'm going to sit back and watch vn-players whine & get seizures about how much DEEN will ruin everything and act as if they will be forced to watch it. Lol, you know it's funny because the same people who say they hate DEEN so much have Higurashi/kai as their favorite anime. Anyway, I have a high possibility that Chiru will air in the Winter '11 season, probably January 2011. Nope, Umineko Chiru is due for a summer 2010 release. Can't wait! |
Rail_TracerFeb 12, 2010 9:12 PM
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