| People fully self-insert onto the Mc to the point where the show becomes complete "garbage" if the "MC is a simp", then those same people try to sound intellectual by saying "Self Insert Isekai Trash" Its not like Id trust a person with such a shaky understanding of their lives but still, it makes me wanna ask Whats this Hypocrisy? Like Why? I don't get it. Just admit u have a habit of self-inserting to the lowest common denominator? Are people really, REALLY that desperate to feel validated that they change their tastes to what they know WILL be validated by others? The Ayanokoji Fans, The One piece fans, The Kaguya sama fans, The Historical Seinen fuckboys etc. are the ones i mean specifically. Fans of shows that make u feel "cool" and "a sigma" or more capable than u actually are. Basically Insta users or twt users. Do understand my point, its not the fans i have an issue with, its the people that hate on other completely normal shows because its "cringe" ig. Idk whats cool these days. like I'm 100% sure someone reading this falls under this category. don't be afraid poor soul. ur loved. u can say kanokari>kaguya sama, no one will hurt u.  |
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| They want more badass MCs because they want tosee someone they want to be and not the person who they are on screen. PD: Kanokari is indeed far better than Kaguya-sama, but people cry if you tell them that. |
| Some people just don't like wimpy protagonists, it's a matter of preference. But more often than not, I think the beta male MC hits a little too close to home for your average anime fan and causes painful cognitive dissonance. |
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| And then the same people will call Kanojo mo Kanojo cringe garbage when the KanoKano MC is actually already badass. I don't get people's obsession in calling everything that doesn't feature an emotionally unstable MC trash or cringe. |
| totally agree, anim3 nowadays is about seeking validation and not enjoyment. if you don't like the most recent shit that everyone is praising then you are trying to be different |
| my guess is that people are weak irl so they self insert into OP characters |
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|TomatoSpinjitzu said: Bruh Kaguya? wtf is Kaguya doing in that list ull be surprised to know how annoying it can get trying to talk to kaguya sama fans explaining why its "peak romcom because its chad material" KryzakamiHrybami said: And then the same people will call Kanojo mo Kanojo cringe garbage when the KanoKano MC is actually already badass. I don't get people's obsession in calling everything that doesn't feature an emotionally unstable MC trash or cringe. yeah true epidemia78 said: Some people just don't like wimpy protagonists, it's a matter of preference. But more often than not, I think the beta male MC hits a little too close to home for your average anime fan and causes painful cognitive dissonance. But i thrive on that painful cognitive dissonance |
BerriesSanApr 23, 2023 2:26 PM
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| Why you ask? Easy, because of personal taste. So if you only like shows with badass MC, you need professional help. Meanwhile if you like shows with simp MC, you are ok? This doesn't make sense either, don't you think? It's just personal taste. - If you like the movie Dirty Harry, chances are high you'll like John Wick. I would place all bad ass MC anime together with these movies. - If you rather see a different kind of movie that is totally different like 'What's eating Gilbert Grape?" or "the Pianist", your taste is just different. These movies have nothing in common with the other 2 action oriented movies. In the pianist we see a man struggling to survive a most difficult and horrible situation. Being humble when he should have shouted, being quiet when he should have disagreed. Being afraid while he could have been dead. Is he a badass like John Wick? No. Is he a simp? No. He's just a badass for showing the audience what it really means to survive, struggle and hang on to life when all hope is lost. Back to anime... I think when people say 'meh, this is bad, MC is simp, I prefer bad ass MC' They simply watched the wrong anime. An anime that isn't part of their personal palate. |
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| "Historical seinen fuckboys" lol Considering how many new and casual of fans of VS bitched about how Thorfinn was developed I don't think that is the case lol. Maybe you shouldn't make strawmen out of a few people you meet online. This isn't hard to explain. It's just fun to watch self assured action heroes. It's not an anime thing either I also enjoy shows like 24 films like John Wick, Die Hard, Bourne etc. I rarely self insert into any character and it's not into those archetypes either. I mean I would say for a lot of people we just like seeing cool people do cool things. Is it that hard to understand lol? Confidence is attractive. People being able to stand up against huge opposition and have ability to win without doubt is again really attractive. Of course weakness is also an attractive character trait but for different reasons. Sometimes you aren't in the mood for that. The medium largely caters more to flawed insecure and weak MCs who build upon themselves usually but still sometimes I don't want a Subaru I want a Cobra. |
BilboBaggins365Apr 23, 2023 2:37 PM
| I feel you. Even Jesus doubted on the cross. |
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| It's pretty insulting that all male characters get portrayed as is pathetic losers. Having flawed characters is good, but the levels of pathetic in anime has is horrible. |
BerriesSan said: Cid Kagenou from TEIS say Hi!! People fully self-insert onto the Mc to the point where the show becomes complete "garbage" if the "MC is a simp", then those same people try to sound intellectual by saying "Self Insert Isekai Trash" Its not like Id trust a person with such a shaky understanding of their lives but still, it makes me wanna ask Whats this Hypocrisy? Like Why? I don't get it. Just admit u have a habit of self-inserting to the lowest common denominator? Are people really, REALLY that desperate to feel validated that they change their tastes to what they know WILL be validated by others? The Ayanokoji Fans, The One piece fans, The Kaguya sama fans, The Historical Seinen fuckboys etc. are the ones i mean specifically. Fans of shows that make u feel "cool" and "a sigma" or more capable than u actually are. Basically Insta users or twt users. Do understand my point, its not the fans i have an issue with, its the people that hate on other completely normal shows because its "cringe" ig. Idk whats cool these days. like I'm 100% sure someone reading this falls under this category. don't be afraid poor soul. ur loved. u can say kanokari>kaguya sama, no one will hurt u. |
| The average otaku wants to mirror a badass protagonist, which is why Lelouch is so beloved. Who wouldn't want to be handsome, intelligent, lead a revolution, and have a harem of beautiful girls for themselves? This is also the reason why Shinji is so hated. The average otaku dreams of being like Lelouch, but realizes deep down that they're just a Shinji, ready to cry and masturbate to their friend in a coma. He's literally me |
| If you're a fanboy, please don't waste my time. Watch more movies, please. Perhaps, this is hell. |
KryzakamiHrybami said: Nah that anime is cringe because the setup is unheard of, the premise is stupid, and the characters gave me second-hand embarrassment almost every time. It's fine for Michael Scott and the Office to repeatedly do that to me but not anything else.And then the same people will call Kanojo mo Kanojo cringe garbage when the KanoKano MC is actually already badass. I don't get people's obsession in calling everything that doesn't feature an emotionally unstable MC trash or cringe. |
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epidemia78 said: Some people just don't like wimpy protagonists, it's a matter of preference. But more often than not, I think the beta male MC hits a little too close to home for your average anime fan and causes painful cognitive dissonance. I’d guess this is definitely the reason for a majority of people. For myself, I cannot stand people who dislike their situation and do nothing to better themselves. It drives me absolutely crazy in real life and I definitely don’t want to watch it in anime. I’m not opposed to weakness in people. Everyone has weaknesses. But I absolutely die inside when people accept shitty circumstances. I’d rather watch someone who goes after what they want. It’s far more enjoyable to me. |
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| Self inserting is lame. I just want to see capable characters destroying one another Badass characters are likely to make a show more entertaining. |
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| Finally the anime that represents me, the MC that is literally my ideal self. A cool and silent type kind of guy. My friends don't understand when I become silent type, and always 50% in quiz scores. They don't know my full ability and they don't realize how much of a genius i really am. I only see as people as tools and nothing else. I wish I was in anime world where I can express who I truly am. I fully believe I am the real life embodiment of Ayanokouji. |
| I'm only so Obsessed with having a merciless "Badass woman" |
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BerriesSan said: kanokari>kaguya sama One of the worst takes I have ever seen. |
| A lot of these MCs are either boring or they’re always perfect in Isekai which pretty much is the same. I think people just want MCs that can show room for improvement and don’t have everything handed to them. |
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| It's because you have anime/manga where the MC are these weak whiny people and it completely kills the vibe. I love Rent-a-girlfriend because of the cast of girls, but Kazuya is infuriating to deal with. Compare him to someone like the MC in Nagatoro. Both of them are weak and "losers", but the difference is Naoto changes as the story goes on. He's still the same shy introvert, but his appearance changes, he speaks up more when he should, he does activities he normally wouldn't do. Kazuya stays this weak character for so long, and only ever does anything to please Chizuru. Mirai Nikki is another anime where the main character is just this weak scared guy who can't do anything unless Yuno saves him. Not only does Yuno need to save him throughout the series, Yuki pushes her away despite the fact he would be dead without her help. Yuki does eventually accept her, but it takes sooooo long that its a pain in the ass to go through. If you have a badass protagonist at the start of your series, then you don't need to wait for your character to "get cool". This is why Kaguya-sama is one of the more popular romcom shows. The president has nervous tendencies, but he isn't this loser shut-in character. There are tons of examples, but those are just the ones I can think of at the top of my head. Self-inserting isn't the problem because a viewer can do that with anything they choose. Everyone would love to be the MC in a shonen and save the world. Everyone would love to have their own harem. Even in something like Monster you could self-insert as Dr. Tenma. Wanting to be the character in a story is a completely normal. Even in normal media like Star Wars or Marvel you can self-insert as a superhero or a Jedi. Sounds to me that you just don't like other people calling shows cringe. And for that, who gives a shit? Watch and read whatever you want. It doesn't matter if you like an anime with a MC that is weak or strong. There will be people who enjoy it and people who won't. There is not a single anime that some people won't consider "mid", even if it has the highest ratings on MAL. |
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| because a lot of people look for self insert rather then just a story telling a story. |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus  |
| That's just how things work naturally that people prefer to see something cool than the ones which aren't. |
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Blackfire2340 said: Sounds to me that you just don't like other people calling shows cringe. And for that, who gives a shit? Watch and read whatever you want. It doesn't matter if you like an anime with a MC that is weak or strong. There will be people who enjoy it and people who won't. There is not a single anime that some people won't consider "mid", even if it has the highest ratings on MAL. This is the true tea right here. Liking cool/strong characters doesn’t make you a lame Chad wannabe. Self possessed people are just cool, self-inserting or not. I enjoy plenty of anime characters that most people can’t relate to, but I’m not butthurt because they aren’t popular. It all comes down to personal preference and also, in the end I just dgaf. |
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BerriesSan said: First of all i want to say that im not fully self insert watcher. People fully self-insert onto the Mc to the point where the show becomes complete "garbage" if the "MC is a simp", then those same people try to sound intellectual by saying "Self Insert Isekai Trash" Its not like Id trust a person with such a shaky understanding of their lives but still, it makes me wanna ask Whats this Hypocrisy? Like Why? I don't get it. Just admit u have a habit of self-inserting to the lowest common denominator? Are people really, REALLY that desperate to feel validated that they change their tastes to what they know WILL be validated by others? The Ayanokoji Fans, The One piece fans, The Kaguya sama fans, The Historical Seinen fuckboys etc. are the ones i mean specifically. Fans of shows that make u feel "cool" and "a sigma" or more capable than u actually are. Basically Insta users or twt users. Do understand my point, its not the fans i have an issue with, its the people that hate on other completely normal shows because its "cringe" ig. Idk whats cool these days. like I'm 100% sure someone reading this falls under this category. don't be afraid poor soul. ur loved. u can say kanokari>kaguya sama, no one will hurt u. hypocrsy from it ? dont u feel weird when see something like it ? yeah ig u really dont care about mc all u want just see cute girls there lolllll once again i wanna say that im not self insert typical fans even if i like leluosch and yang wen li obviously im not like them but i just appreciated their contribution either from inside or outside aspect where they involved in it im insta and tiktok user but thrs no relation about it, more likely just ur assumption as logical fallacy instead loll if u think hate other taste can make urself become cool then i hv to say that im not part of them also theres no relation being cool only with hate speech about op taste even u urself start it with mocking The Ayanokoji Fans, The One piece fans, The Kaguya sama fans, The Historical Seinen fuckboys etc. lmfaoooo |
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If the cuck were to be inserted into doesn’t that make him nolonger a cuck tho? |
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| Yeesh, you got some issues if you think wimpy MCs are the best. The problem is that those MCs are contradicting in their settings. Like in Isekais or any fantasy story, the MC often refused to kill someone while someone is trying to kill him, which is dumb. Or like Naruto or any Shonen, where he use Talk-no-Jutsu to convince his enemies to become their friends. Meanwhile, I read Solo Leveling or any Korean manhwa and said, "Wow, what a badass. He kills when its needed and leaves when it's not. Better than those Japanese MC wimps". And that's why those stories are getting more popularity than those isekais. A badass MC is more trendy than the wimpy ones |
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| I don't think I've ever seen anyone claim to like Kaguya-Sama because the characters are "badass" or because the show makes them feel more capable than they already are. People like Kaguya-Sama because they find the cast to be funny, relatable, or otherwise likable, which helps the comedy aspect of that romantic comedy stick the landing (and makes them care more about the romance aspect as well). At least, that's the case for the Kaguya-Sama fans that I've interacted with. People who prefer Kaguya-Sama to Rent-a-Girlfriend may just not like the cast of Rent-a-Girlfriend as much, and there's nothing wrong with that. Everyone has their preferences. |
samsince04 said: KryzakamiHrybami said: Nah that anime is cringe because the setup is unheard of, the premise is stupid, and the characters gave me second-hand embarrassment almost every time. It's fine for Michael Scott and the Office to repeatedly do that to me but not anything else.And then the same people will call Kanojo mo Kanojo cringe garbage when the KanoKano MC is actually already badass. I don't get people's obsession in calling everything that doesn't feature an emotionally unstable MC trash or cringe. Wow you're exactly the type of people mentioned in this thread. Amazing! |
| Would you want your action movie protagonist to be a wimp who always runs away from fighting and conflict? I want to see some cool dude kick ass and get shit done. That's why I like badass anime protagonists. Speaking about romcoms specifically, I find wimpy protags who are comically afraid of women frustrating. I don't get the amount of people who are overly defensive of this trope now. Portraying the protag as shy when it comes to romance/sex isn't a bad thing per say, but when he's like constantly screaming running away from his love interest and loses his mind at the mere thought of holding her hand, that's just ridiculous. It feels very juvenile. Not only that, but I actually quite like seeing progression of relationships in romcom manga. Hundreds of chapters of "will they or won't they?" gets extremely tiring to me. The amount of psychoanalyzing in the thread is kinda funny cause like... you guys are really trying to act superior for preferring romcom protags who are afraid of women and progressing their relationships??? Really???? |
ShmubmApr 24, 2023 6:18 AM
| Because they're losers IRL so they need a badass protagonist to self-insert. |
| Who are you and why do you show your hostility towards a complete stranger whom you've not once spoken with before. Are you seriously asking to get blocked? Well, if that's what your intent is; to tempt me into throwing hands with someone as lowly and insignificant as you, then i may grant your wish provided you articulate yourself a bit better when trying to spite a person of my wavelength. |
KryzakamiHrybami said: You're gonna have to expand on that. The MC in Kanojo mo Kanojo you said was already badass. I'm saying the premise of the anime is cringe and I'm actually embarassed for the characters and the voice actors to be put in situations like that. And the only shows I can make an exception for that kind of thing is where it is actually in a good series like The Office. Nothing to do with self-inserting or whatever OP is on about. samsince04 said: Nah that anime is cringe because the setup is unheard of, the premise is stupid, and the characters gave me second-hand embarrassment almost every time. It's fine for Michael Scott and the Office to repeatedly do that to me but not anything else. Wow you're exactly the type of people mentioned in this thread. Amazing! |
| ๐ฎ๐๐๐๐๐พ๐๐๐, ๐๐๐ ๐ธ๐ถ๐'๐ ๐๐๐๐ ๐ป๐๐๐๐ถ๐๐น ๐๐พ๐๐ฝ๐๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐พ๐๐ ๐๐ฝ๐ ๐น๐๐๐ ๐ท๐๐ฝ๐พ๐๐น ๐๐๐. - ๐
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| People are obsessed with having a "badass" protagonist because they secretly crave for someone to vicariously live out their wildest power fantasies through.. There's a deep-seated desire in humans to feel superior to others and be seen as strong and capable, even if it's just in a fictional setting. People want a protagonist who can single-handedly take on an army of enemies and come out victorious without breaking a sweat.. It's a way for them to escape the mundane and sometimes powerless nature of their daily lives. Plus, let's face it, badass characters are just plain cool and fun to watch.. |
| I don't necessarily need a "badass" protag, but I have a problem with wimpy losers that either can't speak a sentence in the presence of a character of the opposite gender or that blush at the slightest touch or sign of attention by one of them. Or a protag (or character) that lets other people boss them around for no good reason. I wouldn't say I always "self-insert" into a character (sometimes maybe), but I want to at least relate to them (usually). I can do that better with a character who isn't moping around all day, feeling pity for themselves and overall just having the personality of a wet paper tissue. |
| Because most people is in the Anime community is Shonen Tard and living in a r eally tiny bubble |
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samsince04 said: You're gonna have to expand on that. The MC in Kanojo mo Kanojo you said was already badass. I'm saying the premise of the anime is cringe and I'm actually embarassed for the characters and the voice actors to be put in situations like that. And the only shows I can make an exception for that kind of thing is where it is actually in a good series like The Office. Nothing to do with self-inserting or whatever OP is on about. Did you read the OP thoroughly? You sound like a typical low-life who need to get validation by shitting on anime that include common humans feature that could be self-inserted. You fear self-insertion. You, calling an anime cringe when the anime setup and the characters behaviors are actually pretty common in real life is what OP is talking about. |
KryzakamiHrybami said: lol don't even play the realism card. In what world do two girls accept to date the same guy and live under the same roof? I thought even people that liked the anime knew that they should turn their brains off because the show wasn't trying to be anything too serious or send a message. There is nothing common about how any of the girls act. samsince04 said: You're gonna have to expand on that. The MC in Kanojo mo Kanojo you said was already badass. I'm saying the premise of the anime is cringe and I'm actually embarassed for the characters and the voice actors to be put in situations like that. And the only shows I can make an exception for that kind of thing is where it is actually in a good series like The Office. Nothing to do with self-inserting or whatever OP is on about. Did you read the OP thoroughly? You sound like a typical low-life who need to get validation by shitting on anime that include common humans feature that could be self-inserted. You fear self-insertion. You, calling an anime cringe when the anime setup and the characters behaviors are actually pretty common in real life is what OP is talking about. I wasn't even talking about realism so I'm not sure why you brought it up. The premise in Kanojo mo Kanojo is absurd, the most frivolous and unheard of moments that are supposed to result in huge conflict is viewed as natural and that's not even my problem with it. I'm not invested nor do I like the show enough to watch more than four episodes of it. |
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samsince04 said: KryzakamiHrybami said: lol don't even play the realism card. In what world do two girls accept to date the same guy and live under the same roof? I thought even people that liked the anime knew that they should turn their brains off because the show wasn't trying to be anything too serious or send a message. There is nothing common about how any of the girls act. Did you read the OP thoroughly? You sound like a typical low-life who need to get validation by shitting on anime that include common humans feature that could be self-inserted. You fear self-insertion. You, calling an anime cringe when the anime setup and the characters behaviors are actually pretty common in real life is what OP is talking about. I wasn't even talking about realism so I'm not sure why you brought it up. The premise in Kanojo mo Kanojo is absurd, the most frivolous and unheard of moments that are supposed to result in huge conflict is viewed as natural and that's not even my problem with it. I'm not invested nor do I like the show enough to watch more than four episodes of it. It seems like the concept of polygamy is foreign to you. Also, no, the show isn't trying to be serious, it's still a comedy and parody of the harem genre, but that doesn't mean that the audience should turn their brain off. Even if the situations portrayed in the anime feel absurd and over-the-top, those are still situations that happen in real life. But I don't expect you to realize that by now. You can continue watching your over-the-top fantasy shounen, I'm sure it sounds closer to realism to you. |
BerriesSan said: Do understand my point, its not the fans i have an issue with, its the people that hate on other completely normal shows because its "cringe" ig. Idk whats cool these days. Hold on a second, since when has having a monkey constantly in heat stalk on you been considered "normal"? Are we on Twitter or a place across the universe or something? |
SgtBateManApr 24, 2023 3:22 PM
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| After reading all of these replies, I wonder if its rare to see an anime watcher project himself as the "observer" or a "side character" in that anime's "universe". Because that is how I project myself to the anime that I watch and I find it more enjoyable. |
| Not sure if this has anything to do with self-insertion. I think people like to see badass characters mostly because they look cool, simple as that, it's about style, intensity and power, not self-insertion. Also, One Piece and Kaguya-sama? Really? ''Historical Seinen fuckboys''...? This seems more like an attempt to attack things you dislike and justify yourself for enjoying things that people in general dislike. I mean, why even bother to justify your own taste? Nobody really cares about what you consider good or bad, and it doesn't look like you gave a topic for discussion either. In the end, the entire point of this thread was just to justify yourself for saying something like Kanokari > Kaguya-sama, which would be take as a joke in any other context. |
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| I honestly don't fully understand your post, are you just mad about twitter arguments or something? Anyway, to answer the question in the topic name: I don't self-insert into fiction at all and still like badass protagonists. What's wrong with that? They are fun to watch. I think of anime like a meal. Most of the time, when you sit down for a bit in the evening, you won't be in the mood for some big, heavy meal, even if that would be very fulfilling. You just crave a nice little snack. Badass protagonists are the anime-version of a snack, they already have all their issues sorted out and powers gathered and can simply solve whatever problem comes their way right away. It's not super deep, but it's great satisfaction in the moment. Loser protagonists (or otherwise lacking ones) still have their entire journey ahead of them, and while following that can ultimately be way more fulfilling, it's also a much bigger emotional investment, that isn't even guaranteed to pay off (because the character may not develop at all, or do so in a direction you don't like). It can also be frustrating from a narrative perspective, if the solution is very simple and easy to spot as a viewer but the protagonist stumbles through the plot cluelessly due to their limitations. |
| So they can self insert themselves w them and escape from reality. |
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SgtBateMan said: Hold on a second, since when has projecting your ethics onto a fictional character so aggressively that any diversion from it breaks the experience for you been considered "normal"? Are we on Twitter or something? BerriesSan said: Do understand my point, its not the fans i have an issue with, its the people that hate on other completely normal shows because its "cringe" ig. Idk whats cool these days. Hold on a second, since when has having a monkey constantly in heat stalk on you been considered "normal"? Are we on Twitter or a place across the universe or something? Do these people not have anything else to do |
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BerriesSan said: SgtBateMan said: Hold on a second, since when has projecting your ethics onto a fictional character so aggressively that any diversion from it breaks the experience for you been considered "normal"? Are we on Twitter or something? Hold on a second, since when has having a monkey constantly in heat stalk on you been considered "normal"? Are we on Twitter or a place across the universe or something? Do these people not have anything else to do Lol, even the monkey was well aware of how pathetic and against the law his act of stalking was, yet still committed to the act until the very end, so why did I need to project myself? Brain damage. And also, it's an insult to the kind of primate namely "monkey", so my apology. He is lower than them on the evolution ladder. |
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