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Apr 9, 2023 9:05 AM
#51
struggler_sensei said: JaniSIr said: Renowned by the world my dude. Kurosawa is one of the most important and influential filmmakers in the history of cinema, go ahead and google "most important filmmakers in history" and you'll find Akira Kurosawa's name in any single list or article on the matter.struggler_sensei said: JaniSIr said: I mean a lot of Gundam has an adult cast, and so does Macross, Gun x Blade, and Big O, just to name a few. I still maintain that Monster is peak storytelling also. struggler_sensei said: JaniSIr said: This just makes it sound like you have only seen Eva and no other mecha show.There are also way too many coming of age stories in mecha. Like why the hell are they all employ teenagers to pilot weapons off mass destruction. Especially the angsty depressed crybaby type. JaniSIr said: not really, there are plenty of anime with action scenes of that quality, It's all about what quality of shows and movies you are watchingI'll give you those two, and I could even list some more, but they are still in the minority. JaniSIr said: I disagree with your pretentious claim but I won't get into that. And I mean dropping both Berserk and Cowboy Bebop just shows bad taste imho, but regardless there is still Paprika, and Perfect Blue which also show how anime can do amazing storytelling.You are not gonna like this : didn't like Gits either, it's kinda pretentious too And I dropped both Berserk and Cowboy Bebop, and have no intention to actually watch Akira. to clarify you do know I mean Akira Kurosawa the director of Yojimbo, Seven Samurai, and Rashomon, among other films, not the anime Akira right? just making sure. I did not watch many mecha indeed, I could only find 1 with an adult cast, and even that pulled the child in a weapon of mass destruction cliché halfway through. Anyway, I wasn't really trying to prove that anime can't do storytelling, just got annoyed that Monster was the example. And nope, I have no idea who that is. Bruh Akira Kurosawa is one of the world's most renowned directors, he's right up there with Alfred Hitchcock, Luis Buñuel, Stanley Kubrick, and Ingmar Bergman. The state of media literacy nowadays is truly appalling. Oh ye, I even started watching Macross, but the second episode was about a guy on a mech trying to stand straight. Lame. And most renowned by whom exactly? That's cool and all, I just see no reason to actually consider any of those articles an authority on this subject, when I only watched 3 of their movies and liked none. |
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Apr 9, 2023 9:29 AM
#52
JaniSIr said: I thought you'd said you'd never heard of him, and now you say you've seen 3 of his films? Well, regardless of your personal opinion on his films he is still one of the most renowned filmmakers who won a shit ton of awards for his films and one of the most influential filmmakers who influenced directors from Sergio Leone to Quintin Tarantino. That's cool and all, I just see no reason to actually consider any of those articles an authority on this subject, when I only watched 3 of their movies and liked none. |
Apr 9, 2023 9:32 AM
#53
-Gintama isn't funny -Kirito and Asuna are decent characters -Ecchi and CGDCT are as good as any other genre -There is nothing wrong with lolis -Miku is the worst character in Date a Live -Saber characters in Fate are boring and overrated -Tanjiro isn't unique, the same as every other shounen protag -Yaoi and Yuri are the worst genres -We need more anime featuring girls with abs -We need more reverse traps to balance out traps |
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Apr 9, 2023 9:38 AM
#54
SAO's Mothers Rosario is better than FMA at times. And this is coming from FMA's biggest fan and admirer of all time. Yuukisuna = SisTP. |
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Apr 9, 2023 9:40 AM
#55
struggler_sensei said: JaniSIr said: I thought you'd said you'd never heard of him, and now you say you've seen 3 of his films? Well, regardless of your personal opinion on his films he is still one of the most renowned filmmakers who won a shit ton of awards for his films and one of the most influential filmmakers who influenced directors from Sergio Leone to Quintin Tarantino. That's cool and all, I just see no reason to actually consider any of those articles an authority on this subject, when I only watched 3 of their movies and liked none. Not his specifically, but from your entire list. I watched Psycho, Clockwork orange and Shining. (Though couldn't have told you who Kubrick was, even though I did watch some of his movies) |
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Apr 9, 2023 9:54 AM
#56
JaniSIr said: Right, so you weren't even referring to Kurosawa films. Well watching only 3 films from 2 directors, that have made shit tons of films, out of a list of numerous other directors who are considered globally as the world's most important and influential directors hardly makes you an expert in being able to judge who are the most important and influential directors. You're kinda outta your depth here kid.Not his specifically, but from your entire list. I watched Psycho, Clockwork orange and Shining. (Though couldn't have told you who Kubrick was, even though I did watch some of his movies) |
Apr 9, 2023 9:55 AM
#57
Evangelion is extremely pretentious . AOT is probably the most overrated anime ever People who mostly watch mainstream shounen have no taste. Rent-a-girlfriend gets unnecessary hate just because MC is wimpy. Aldnoah Zero season 2 was better than season 1 Your lie in april , Silent Voice , Anohana aren't depressing. I watched them with stone face lol Fate /stay night (2006) is best part of the series Redo of Healer plot is quite interesting |
Apr 9, 2023 9:59 AM
#58
tomasowa said: I wonder why, since I cant imagine many animators being extroverted themselves so why would they do that to introverted characters unless thats how they think theyd react (not that they would, im thinking more of a self-image thing) also I guess it depends on the anime, I'm sure there are anime that show introverts in a more realistic way. Unfortunately, my hot take would also fall under rant. Anime does an effing asinine job portraying the average Japanese introvert. Nothing can convince me their creators do not do this on purpose, as an insult. Never have I ever seen anyone in Japan not help another person in need, let alone when in danger. Even the most silent person in a crowd does not freeze when seeing injustice nor do they have a mental breakdown and argue to themselves about helping. Neither do they pretend to not see the injured and walk on by. Some of it might make sense in the United States, especially when people run from an active shooter. But even in this scenario, anyone able to call the authorities will and the same goes for the Japanese, who are not a gun culture ... |
Apr 9, 2023 10:23 AM
#59
- Baccano is one of the most overrated titles ever - Ecchi is a good genre - Evangelion is a really good franchise (yes, including the rebuilds) - Horror is one of the best genres - Umineko adaptation wasn't that bad - Darling in the FranXX sucks - 99% of isekais are not worth the time and money to adapt into anime |
Apr 9, 2023 10:24 AM
#60
struggler_sensei said: JaniSIr said: Right, so you weren't even referring to Kurosawa films. Well watching only 3 films from 2 directors, that have made shit tons of films, out of a list of numerous other directors who are considered globally as the world's most important and influential directors hardly makes you an expert in being able to judge who are the most important and influential directors. You're kinda outta your depth here kid.Not his specifically, but from your entire list. I watched Psycho, Clockwork orange and Shining. (Though couldn't have told you who Kubrick was, even though I did watch some of his movies) I don't actually care if they made good movies or not, proving that I have a trash taste was just how you wanted to steer the conversation. But I can totally reject your elitist view of who is the most influential, based on what some random Google search results say about authors whose works didn't hold up well enough to have a mainstream appeal on their own. |
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Apr 9, 2023 10:25 AM
#61
- Monster is an absolute piece of trash which is an insult to psychological anime, and Johan isn't a good manipulator since most of the time we don't even see him doing his manipulations. - I don't know if this is spicy but Evangelion never gets confusing, people just are unable to grasp some things if they aren't explained like if they were babies. - Konosuba is a far better isekai deconstruction than Re:Zero can ever hope to be. - Kanojo Okarishimasu is a far better romcom than Kaguya-sama and Sono Bisque Doll. |
Apr 9, 2023 10:26 AM
#62
HexTwist said: Baccano is one of the most overrated titles ever Finally someone agrees with me. It's just 3-4 boring stories interleaved for no reason, beyond confusing the viewer. Durarara actually made use of showing things in a weird way, but not Baccano. |
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Apr 9, 2023 10:29 AM
#63
HexTwist said: most of these except the Baccano take are about as spicy as the taco bell mild salsa man.- Baccano is one of the most overrated titles ever - Ecchi is a good genre - Evangelion is a really good franchise (yes, including the rebuilds) - Horror is one of the best genres - Umineko adaptation wasn't that bad - Darling in the FranXX sucks - 99% of isekais are not worth the time and money to adapt into anime |
Apr 9, 2023 10:35 AM
#64
Some anime Dubs are way better then the sub It's rare for Japanese authors to write a decent ending, I heard the reason for this in some forums but It still really upsets me that most of the time when I watch/read a series the I know the ending will be "meh". The peak of Naruto (from Sasuke vs Deidara fight untill Pain Invasion) is actually the best part not only in Naruto but in general when it comes to the big 3 with One Piece's Impeal Down-marineford close second. |
Apr 9, 2023 10:35 AM
#65
UberBat said: Literally. Erwin, Mike, Sasha got killed. Erwin was the best character hundred percent.All the worst people lived in Attack on Titan |
Apr 9, 2023 10:39 AM
#66
JaniSIr said: Man, I'm not steering the conversation you're just in the minority opinion when it comes to films dude. And it is wild you don't realize that these films have mainstream success lol. Like Seven Samurai was ripped off by the magnificent Seven which then got a remake and also seven samurai has an anime based on it (though it differs loads since it's an anime lol). It's also not elitist to state what is considered influential and important by consensus. Like, you could say you don't like Black Sabbath but it wouldn't take away from the fact that they are widely considered one of the most important and influential bands in metal.I don't actually care if they made good movies or not, proving that I have a trash taste was just how you wanted to steer the conversation. But I can totally reject your elitist view of who is the most influential, based on what some random Google search results say about authors whose works didn't hold up well enough to have a mainstream appeal on their own. |
Apr 9, 2023 10:55 AM
#67
struggler_sensei said: JaniSIr said: Man, I'm not steering the conversation you're just in the minority opinion when it comes to films dude. And it is wild you don't realize that these films have mainstream success lol. Like Seven Samurai was ripped off by the magnificent Seven which then got a remake and also seven samurai has an anime based on it (though it differs loads since it's an anime lol). It's also not elitist to state what is considered influential and important by consensus. Like, you could say you don't like Black Sabbath but it wouldn't take away from the fact that they are widely considered one of the most important and influential bands in metal.I don't actually care if they made good movies or not, proving that I have a trash taste was just how you wanted to steer the conversation. But I can totally reject your elitist view of who is the most influential, based on what some random Google search results say about authors whose works didn't hold up well enough to have a mainstream appeal on their own. I specifically said that they don't have a mainstream appeal now. Or like Tolkien is relevant since they made some decent movies from lotr, even though the books themselves are borderline illegible. Anyway, this conversation was exceptionally derailed just from me saying that Monster was kinda bad. |
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Apr 9, 2023 10:58 AM
#68
houseki no kuni is pretentious af its really the most boring thing ive ever read |
Apr 9, 2023 11:13 AM
#69
Buddy Daddies is better than Spy×Family. Blue Lock is way too overrated. Ao Ashi is better. |
Apr 9, 2023 11:17 AM
#70
People who rewatched One Piece multiple times need help |
Apr 9, 2023 11:19 AM
#71
Naofumi1055 said: is that even physically possible? wouldn't that require decades?People who rewatched One Piece multiple times need help |
Apr 9, 2023 11:36 AM
#72
- Anime aimed at kids is often much more mature and handless their child characters as actual characters. - Anime dramas are usually boring af, and don't get me started on romance - Anime girls aren't cute, and neither are boys or even mascots for that matter. Characters that are pushed to viewer as cute to sell merch are 100% just annoying - "Anime art style" peaked in the 60's and 70's - Sci-fi genre in anime isn't in that bad state - Fantasy genre is absolutely in ruins thanks to current trends - ~24 minute lenght episode isn't always the best option - Shitty dubs can add entertainment value so I have no hate towards them <3 |
Apr 9, 2023 11:39 AM
#73
Tropisch said: I agree with Kirito being a decent character, Saber is indeed overrated, more girls with abs and more reverse traps. -Gintama isn't funny -Kirito and Asuna are decent characters -Ecchi and CGDCT are as good as any other genre -There is nothing wrong with lolis -Miku is the worst character in Date a Live -Saber characters in Fate are boring and overrated -Tanjiro isn't unique, the same as every other shounen protag -Yaoi and Yuri are the worst genres -We need more anime featuring girls with abs -We need more reverse traps to balance out traps Never seen Date a live and can't entirely disagree with Tanjiro Vehemently disagree with everything else. |
Apr 9, 2023 11:47 AM
#74
struggler_sensei said: a large portion of one piece fanbase has actually rewatched it more than once. Its possible by dedicating 10 hours per day for more than a month.Naofumi1055 said: is that even physically possible? wouldn't that require decades?People who rewatched One Piece multiple times need help |
Apr 9, 2023 11:50 AM
#75
Apr 9, 2023 12:30 PM
#76
JaniSIr said: Oh ye, I even started watching Macross, but the second episode was about a guy on a mech trying to stand straight. Lame. now THAT is a Bhut Jolokia of a "Spicy Anime Take" right then and there... |
Apr 9, 2023 12:41 PM
#78
Stardrake said: thats less a spicy take and more a pipe dream, one I also have but still lol.Berserk will get proper anime adaptation. |
Apr 9, 2023 1:00 PM
#79
FMA is better than FMAB. Tenki no Ko is overrated af. |
Apr 9, 2023 1:01 PM
#80
MasterTasuke said: JaniSIr said: Oh ye, I even started watching Macross, but the second episode was about a guy on a mech trying to stand straight. Lame. now THAT is a Bhut Jolokia of a "Spicy Anime Take" right then and there... That wasn't even intentionally spicy, that was 100% on accident lol |
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Apr 9, 2023 1:03 PM
#81
Apr 9, 2023 1:08 PM
#82
Ionliosite2 said: - Monster is an absolute piece of trash which is an insult to psychological anime, and Johan isn't a good manipulator since most of the time we don't even see him doing his manipulations. - I don't know if this is spicy but Evangelion never gets confusing, people just are unable to grasp some things if they aren't explained like if they were babies. - Konosuba is a far better isekai deconstruction than Re:Zero can ever hope to be. - Kanojo Okarishimasu is a far better romcom than Kaguya-sama and Sono Bisque Doll. This is the best one I felt, sexy takes. A part of storytelling is being able to conveying your ideas properly. So when you say people need to be explained like babies, it's more like people need to be explained. That's it. One piece is overrated. It is a decent story but because people have been invested in the manga for way too long, even decent things stand out to them. |
Apr 9, 2023 1:20 PM
#83
Apr 9, 2023 1:33 PM
#84
violet evergarden is about a 30year old dude telling a 14 year old girl hes gonna wait for her to turn 18. |
Apr 9, 2023 1:52 PM
#85
I preferred Fate/Apocrypha over Attack on Titan. Characters were more impactful and the story didn't ground down in pointless slaughter of tertiary characters. |
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Apr 9, 2023 2:18 PM
#86
I have a few: Pokemon is one of the worst anime that you can show to your kids and is extremely tiring to watch as an adult. Show them Shaman King, Doraemon or Ninja Hattori or something along those lines, just not Pokemon. This person's take on FMA, also same goes for HxH, but I have seen neither in well over a decade, so take this with a grain of salt. The Vision of Escaflowne is arguably the best isekai series to be made. Warau Salesman succeeds at creating a dark urban atmosphere, where Death Note fails (seriously, Death Note just created Newark, New Jersey and misnamed it Tokyo, that is all). The phrase "Naruto fan" and "Bleach fan" are great insults, but are very low brow. (Neither are all that terrible). Saint Seiya should have stayed 2D and animated. The Netflix version borders on unwatchable because of the rewriting and the live-action one looks like Dragon Ball: Evolution 2: Electric Boogaloo. China has surpassed Japan in writing and animating, especially when it comes to CGI. |
Apr 9, 2023 3:02 PM
#87
That western money should not be pumped into anime as it will kill the unique identity of the medium since globalization destroys culture. |
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Apr 9, 2023 3:14 PM
#88
Only teenagers care about animation. Which doesn't mean that older people don't enjoy good animation but every other aspect of an anime including music is more important. struggler_sensei said: Naofumi1055 said: is that even physically possible? wouldn't that require decades?People who rewatched One Piece multiple times need help I'm on my third rewatch, manga is better tho. |
ateksApr 9, 2023 3:18 PM
Apr 9, 2023 3:28 PM
#89
ateks said: took you three times to realise that lolOnly teenagers care about animation. Which doesn't mean that older people don't enjoy good animation but every other aspect of an anime including music is more important. struggler_sensei said: Naofumi1055 said: People who rewatched One Piece multiple times need help I'm on my third rewatch, manga is better tho. |
Apr 9, 2023 3:36 PM
#90
struggler_sensei said: ateks said: took you three times to realise that lolOnly teenagers care about animation. Which doesn't mean that older people don't enjoy good animation but every other aspect of an anime including music is more important. struggler_sensei said: Naofumi1055 said: is that even physically possible? wouldn't that require decades?People who rewatched One Piece multiple times need help I'm on my third rewatch, manga is better tho. Nah I just didn't start reading manga earlier. I'm not even sure if I'll ever finish the anime but I feel like it's too late to say no now. |
Apr 9, 2023 3:39 PM
#91
ateks said: You One Piece fans are just built differently man.struggler_sensei said: ateks said: Only teenagers care about animation. Which doesn't mean that older people don't enjoy good animation but every other aspect of an anime including music is more important. struggler_sensei said: Naofumi1055 said: is that even physically possible? wouldn't that require decades?People who rewatched One Piece multiple times need help I'm on my third rewatch, manga is better tho. Nah I just didn't start reading manga earlier. I'm not even sure if I'll ever finish the anime but I feel like it's too late to say no now. |
Apr 9, 2023 4:27 PM
#92
Aku no Hana is a boring pretentious mid snoozefest. Sword Art Online is needlessly hated. |
Apr 9, 2023 4:38 PM
#93
90 percent of anime have the exact same plot: impressing everyone around you/proving to them that you are a good person. |
Apr 9, 2023 4:44 PM
#94
I prefer watching a good shounen than some pseudophilosophical meaningless show. |
Apr 9, 2023 4:45 PM
#95
Having LotGH in favs doesn't make you smarter or better than anyone. |
Apr 9, 2023 4:48 PM
#96
Fullmetal Alchemist is one of the most overrated shows of the history of mankind. |
Apr 9, 2023 5:13 PM
#97
The 4Kids dub of the 2001 version of Shaman King is WAAAAY better than the dub of the 2021 series in spite of the edits that were made. |
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Apr 9, 2023 5:41 PM
#98
School Days is in the top five of greatest shows of all time. Obvious shitpost is obvious. |
Apr 9, 2023 5:56 PM
#99
Chinese made cartoons should not be called Anime. 3D animation still looks ugly when showing any sort of movement, especially when the whole screen is moving. Having an object move in isolation and a still background still looks miles better. |
Apr 9, 2023 6:22 PM
#100
Tropisch said: I think so "tanjiro is unique"is a hot take.-Gintama isn't funny -Kirito and Asuna are decent characters -Ecchi and CGDCT are as good as any other genre -There is nothing wrong with lolis -Miku is the worst character in Date a Live -Saber characters in Fate are boring and overrated -Tanjiro isn't unique, the same as every other shounen protag -Yaoi and Yuri are the worst genres -We need more anime featuring girls with abs -We need more reverse traps to balance out traps Regarding the Post. Also people who think that people who enjoy analysing anime deeply or demand better stories then false hype are just for show off are dumasses Because they can't tackle their points and then go on ranting enjoyment and blah blah blah For everyone enjoyment comes from different aspects so to look down on someone Just makes you born from a gangbang. |
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