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Jan 16, 2023 10:41 AM
#1
Parousing through MAL, Rightstuf, GooglePlay, Mangakalot, it's baffling to see how many copy-paste generic isekai series exist and are being published and sold. Dozens upon dozens of the same exact story just with a minor detail tweak. How are they still selling copies and making money after so long? The following are just made up titles of Isekai I came up, but pretty indistinguishable from actual titles:
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Jan 16, 2023 11:46 AM
#2
| How are teen dramas still making money nowadays? Same answer to both questions. Everything has a target audience, and isekai has its own. Not that hard to figure out. |
Jan 16, 2023 11:52 AM
#3
| It makes money the same way as every other anime title. |
Jan 16, 2023 12:00 PM
#4
| Turn on the radio, almost every song sounds the same. Turn on the TV, almost every show looks the same. Most people don't like new things and will just consume what is there. Comrade-Question said: "Reincarnated As My Little Sister's Panties" I would love to see this. |
Jan 16, 2023 12:00 PM
#5
| Some of them don't make money, they only exist to advertise the source material. Seems like this should be common knowledge by now. |
Jan 16, 2023 12:04 PM
#6
| Those generic titles are less generic than Mushoku Tensei, the single difference is in their production. Generic isekai will keep making money for some time. |
| If you're a fanboy, please don't waste my time. Watch more movies, please. Perhaps, this is hell. |
Jan 16, 2023 12:07 PM
#7
StaleNut said: Depends on the medium, teen drama books are still doing just fine but TV and movies are faltering, due to bad writing and forced politics.How are teen dramas still making money nowadays? Same answer to both questions. Everything has a target audience, and isekai has its own. Not that hard to figure out. As for Isekai, only a few are making money and even fewer are making SAO or Priconne money, it's a huge case of throwing shit around until something sticks (It did stick with Bofuri). |
Jan 16, 2023 12:23 PM
#8
| Just like any form of media, it becomes the popular trend for audiences and studios want to get a piece of that market to profit from. |
Jan 16, 2023 12:48 PM
#9
| Typical fans prefer typical things, problem solved. |
Jan 16, 2023 12:55 PM
#10
| The real question is just how much longer will the isekai craze last? It’s long overdue for a new popular thing |
Jan 16, 2023 12:59 PM
#11
| Because uncultured and uneducated trogdlytes love this shit and enable it with mommies money. So my advice start shilling the lesser known stuff you like instead. |
Jan 16, 2023 1:08 PM
#12
| only the fittest survives... there's a lot of thrash... are you seriously thinking that every isekai anime does triumph? is like everyone's opening a bubble tea shop... a lot are mediocre but for the long run the best will stay that's it...mean to be remembered or praised for accolade... in which surprisingly reincarnating as a sword was a good one... although yeah a lot people was doubting it but it came out nice... I'm the Villainess, So I'm Taming the Final Boss there was hope for this one... because the idea seemed like interesting because the title was less ridiculous than that of reincarnating as a sword but... gosh was hype... execution or something came out wrong because uncompelling and boring... |
gakuendoJan 16, 2023 1:18 PM
Jan 16, 2023 1:14 PM
#13
Klad said: It's ending in the LN space (romance is replacing it) but I'm not sure when it will end in anime. The only issue with the shift to the romance genre is it came out strong too fast, Otonari no Tenshi-sama is a bit too good (especially Mahiru, we're getting perfection right out of the gate)The real question is just how much longer will the isekai craze last? It’s long overdue for a new popular thing |
Jan 16, 2023 1:21 PM
#14
Jan 16, 2023 1:30 PM
#15
misohyk said: None of those titles have anime adaptations Some of them don't make money, they only exist to advertise the source material. Seems like this should be common knowledge by now. Phosphophyllita said: Big difference in production yes, one has an anime the others doesn't. Those generic titles are less generic than Mushoku Tensei, the single difference is in their production. Generic isekai will keep making money for some time. |
Jan 16, 2023 1:32 PM
#16
| Because I'm buying them. I'm building a collection of isekai garbage because black powder Colt collecting got too expensive. |
| MEA·MENTVLA·INGENS·EST |
Jan 16, 2023 1:38 PM
#17
| One man's trash is another man's treasure. |
Jan 16, 2023 1:46 PM
#18
| It's not a secret that the majority of people have trash taste, just look at "The Big Bang Theory". |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
Jan 16, 2023 1:52 PM
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Jan 16, 2023 2:04 PM
#20
| I don't know...I'm actually intrigued by some of those titles....As for the actual question, that's like asking why so many terrible reality shows have been put out. |
Jan 16, 2023 2:34 PM
#21
| don't sweat it! after watching some bad anime has made me more appreciative of good anime... it does takes a lot of effort into creating something with substance every experience helps to have better judgment |
Jan 16, 2023 2:53 PM
#22
| I honestly think they are fun to watch and read, they are fun and overhated for literally no reason like if you don't like them don't watch or read them 🙄 I wish there was more honestly |
Jan 16, 2023 3:57 PM
#23
| Cause they are fun to watch. Its same thing as enjoying romcoms, just depends on what type of generic content you prefer. Some genres and meant to be watched as "junk food of anime" |
Jan 16, 2023 5:13 PM
#24
| I don't know, but I'm baffled why Isekai fans aren't giving pre-SAO Isekai anime the same love like these recent generic Isekais are making. I mean Aura Battler Dunbine, the first Isekai anime is being dangerously ignored by the same isekai demographic. I'm getting reports from .Hack fandom that SAO fandom are calling .Hack franchise a rip-off of SAO despite .Hack came out 10 years before Sword Art Online. Also factor in that .Hack fanbase are baffled why SAO is getting all the mainstream hype when .Hack did many of these things before SAO did that, in other word .Hack should get the same type of mainstream love & appreciation from the same people that love SAO. Even some observers think that .Hack did stuff better then SAO, and I say this as someone who is not a fan of the 2. Also, are people who are watching Isekai titles even bothering to watch classic pre-SAO Isekai anime like Fushigi Yûgi, Escaflowne, Magic Knight Rayearth, etc.... Those need the same love & appreciation that recent generic isekai titles are getting!!! Why is there not a resurgence amongst Isekai fandom when it comes to Isekai before SAO??? |
mdo7Jan 16, 2023 5:17 PM
Jan 16, 2023 5:36 PM
#25
| Ugh, guess i'd definitely watch that one! |
Jan 17, 2023 12:52 AM
#26
| Lowest common denominator appeal, clearly. The term "lowest common denominator" was coined for a reason. Or, rather, appropriated from the field of mathematics for use in slang in describing pop trends for a reason. It also provides the rationale behind not just the wild proliferation and success of generic isekai as a tried-and-true formula for longer than many would have thought possible, but also the general preponderance of mediocre and below material dominating anime and all other mediums. |
Jan 17, 2023 1:01 AM
#27
| Video game fantasy isekais basically write themselves and tons of male anime fans are also into video games. I personally wonder if most of these will even end or just continue on forever until they get cancelled. Most of these generic video game fantasy isekais are ongoing. |
Jan 17, 2023 6:01 AM
#28
| a lot of people have no standards is my theory... especially the japanese when it comes to anime. |
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Jan 17, 2023 10:10 AM
#29
mdo7 said: As a fan of Magic Knight Rayearth, you've definitely expressed this disappointing realization better than I could. Gotta watch more of the anime and start The Vision of Escaflowne soon with the amazing amount of luck I've had in finding these DVDs last year. I would love to read From Far Away one day too, even though I don't think I'll ever be able to collect it as much as I want to (just... all that art... I really like the series' book covers) because apparently Viz Media doesn't think the series is worth reprinting.Also, are people who are watching Isekai titles even bothering to watch classic pre-SAO Isekai anime like Fushigi Yûgi, Escaflowne, Magic Knight Rayearth, etc.... Those need the same love & appreciation that recent generic isekai titles are getting!!! Why is there not a resurgence amongst Isekai fandom when it comes to Isekai before SAO??? |
Jan 17, 2023 10:40 AM
#30
| The problem lies in the shift in isekai becoming a power fantasy, rather than an actual genre. A power fantasy containing the same things over and over again is still effective as a power fantasy, the target is to sell an idea rather than a comprehensive series. |
Jan 17, 2023 11:00 AM
#31
Comrade-Question said: Both of these actually sound like they could be short comics/comedy mangas; I would unironically give it a try for a few chapters."My Life As a Janitor in Another World" |
Jan 17, 2023 11:09 AM
#32
Nilah said: Cause they are fun to watch. Its same thing as enjoying romcoms, just depends on what type of generic content you prefer. Some genres and meant to be watched as "junk food of anime" Take this person for example. Their taste in anime is so shallow and generic that they can't even think of an anime character to use as a pfp, instead opting for a video game character (Nilah from League of Legends). This is the target demographic for Isekai's: gamers with absolutely no imagination of their own |
Jan 17, 2023 11:13 AM
#33
Comrade-Question said: Why can't I be a toothbrush in this world?"I'm The Princesses' Toothbrush...In Another World" Fario-P said: They don't even think the greatest manga of all time is worse reprinting, so of course they wouldn't reprint any 90s shoujo either.I would love to read From Far Away one day too, even though I don't think I'll ever be able to collect it as much as I want to (just... all that art... I really like the series' book covers) because apparently Viz Media doesn't think the series is worth reprinting. |
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Jan 17, 2023 11:16 AM
#34
Fario-P said: As a fan of Magic Knight Rayearth, you've definitely expressed this disappointing realization better than I could. Gotta watch more of the anime and start The Vision of Escaflowne soon with the amazing amount of luck I've had in finding these DVDs last year. I would love to read From Far Away one day too, even though I don't think I'll ever be able to collect it as much as I want to (just... all that art... I really like the series' book covers) because apparently Viz Media doesn't think the series is worth reprinting. You do know that Escaflowne is on blu-ray, right? You're correct that I get frustrated with Isekai fans not taking any pre-SAO classic seriously. I mean classics like Aura Battler Dunbine, Fushigi Yugi, Magic Knight Rayearth, Escaflowne, and even NG Knight & Lamune 40 really need that same love given that they're all in the Isekai category!!! NG Knight & Lamune 40 (along with .Hack franchise) pre-dated Sword Art Online: Aura Battler Dunbine's importance as the 1st Isekai anime: How are Isekai fans not being aware of this? I mean did Isekai fans not watch this video chronicling the history of Isekai that pre-date Sword Art Online: You would think that fans of SAO and generic Isekai titles would've done their research and thought to themselves "OMG, these Isekai anime that came out before SAO are really important, they need our love like we give to SAO, and recent titles. Come on everybody, let's give Aura Battler Dunbine, Escaflowne, Fushigi Yugi, Magic Knight Reyearth, NG Knight & Lamune 40, & .Hack franchise that same love!!!", and yet I don't see that in the fandom. I'm glad you mentioned From Far Away because that deserved to get a anime series adaptation, there is an Isekai boom and no anime studio bother to stumble upon From Far Away a under-rated classic from 1991/1993 that is in need of anime adaptation. I can imagine how many fans of that manga are angry that despite all the Isekai boom, this manga is widely ignored!!! I'm not even a Isekai fan, but seeing all the pre-SAO Isekais being ignored by the majority of Isekai fans today really really ticks me off, this is why the fandom leaves me very frustrated as a anime fan for 17 years!!! |
Jan 17, 2023 11:25 AM
#35
| I wanted to write a post bashing isekais again, but then again... these shoujo isekais and in general isekais with a female protagonist grew on me a bit. I know most aren't actually good, but they are a fun, short watch. mdo7 said: Fario-P said: As a fan of Magic Knight Rayearth, you've definitely expressed this disappointing realization better than I could. Gotta watch more of the anime and start The Vision of Escaflowne soon with the amazing amount of luck I've had in finding these DVDs last year. I would love to read From Far Away one day too, even though I don't think I'll ever be able to collect it as much as I want to (just... all that art... I really like the series' book covers) because apparently Viz Media doesn't think the series is worth reprinting. You do know that Escaflowne is on blu-ray, right? You're correct that I get frustrated with Isekai fans not taking any pre-SAO classic seriously. I mean classics like Aura Battler Dunbine, Fushigi Yugi, Magic Knight Rayearth, Escaflowne, and even NG Knight & Lamune 40 really need that same love given that they're all in the Isekai category!!! NG Knight & Lamune 40 (along with .Hack franchise) pre-dated Sword Art Online: Aura Battler Dunbine's importance as the 1st Isekai anime: How are Isekai fans not being aware of this? I mean did Isekai fans not watch this video chronicling the history of Isekai that pre-date Sword Art Online: You would think that fans of SAO and generic Isekai titles would've done their research and thought to themselves "OMG, these Isekai anime that came out before SAO are really important, they need our love like we give to SAO, and recent titles. Come on everybody, let's give Aura Battler Dunbine, Escaflowne, Fushigi Yugi, Magic Knight Reyearth, NG Knight & Lamune 40, & .Hack franchise that same love!!!", and yet I don't see that in the fandom. I'm glad you mentioned From Far Away because that deserved to get a anime series adaptation, there is an Isekai boom and no anime studio bother to stumble upon From Far Away a under-rated classic from 1991/1993 that is in need of anime adaptation. I can imagine how many fans of that manga are angry that despite all the Isekai boom, this manga is widely ignored!!! I'm not even a Isekai fan, but seeing all the pre-SAO Isekais being ignored by the majority of Isekai fans today really really ticks me off, this is why the fandom leaves me very frustrated as a anime fan for 17 years!!! Most isekai fans only care for new and "very easy to watch" anime. |
Jan 17, 2023 11:38 AM
#36
Zettaiken said: Do you mean with lots of fanservice?It makes money the same way as every other anime title. |
Jan 17, 2023 11:49 AM
#37
| Because this genre is popular in Japan, that is why. |
Jan 17, 2023 11:59 AM
#38
That's a stupid excuse!!! You know how many other anime fandom are calling on their fanbase to support anime that are similar, for example: My Hero Academia fans are calling on their fandom to support Tiger & Bunny given both of the titles are very similar and Tiger & Bunny pre-dated MHA, and that T&B deserve the same love that MHA is getting today. I'm happy to see MHA fans are willing to help Tiger & Bunny given that it deserved the mainstream hype & fame it should've gotten back in 2011. Fans of Hajime No Ippo called on their fandom to support and give love to Ashita No Joe. Given the fact that Ashita No Joe had influenced Hajime No Ippo, I was hoping the fanbase would be able to give Ashita No Joe that same love, and it seem to be paying off. Mobile Suit Gundam from 1979 may not have aged well when it comes to animation, but it didn't stop new Gundam fans from giving that 1979/1980 show the appreciation it deserve. Fans of Studio Trigger's work have called on their fandom to watch & support Gainax's titles. That would explained why Evangelion & Gurren Lagann had a resurgence of popularity in the US in the last few years. If these anime fandom I listed above were able to call on their fandom online to please support other titles that pre-date their favorite works, then it should've been possible for SAO, & fans of Isekai genre to have called on their fandom to support isekai anime that pre-dated SAO. In other word, it should've been possible for fans of SAO to have called on their fandom to check out, support & give love to .Hack franchise. It should've been also possible for isekai fanbase to call on their fandom/fanbase to support & give love to Escaflowne, Aura Battler Dunbine, Fushigi Yugi, and other pre-SAO isekais. I didn't see any of that unlike My Hero Academia's fanbase, Hajime No Ippo fandom, and fans of Studio Trigger's works. That's why I'm disappointed and angry at Isekai fanbase!!! They're not doing a good job calling on their fanbase to support pre-SAO isekais. It doesn't matter if it's old or new, isekai anime before SAO are still isekai, and they're not that difficult to watch. Pre-SAO isekais offered stuff that you can't find in today's isekais today. |
Jan 17, 2023 12:01 PM
#39
Memores said: Because this genre is popular in Japan, that is why. Then shouldn't older isekai before SAO getting resurgence in popularity like for example Aura Battler Dunbine, Fushigi Yugi, etc....??? Because that's not what I'm seeing from the fandom, or the original publishers/owners of those pre-SAO Isekai anime I've mentioned. |
Jan 17, 2023 12:06 PM
#40
| It's still a novel method of escapism for me. Just like everything else, there will be good stuff and weak sauce. It'll continue to grow/evolve and will eventually fall out of widespread favor. There will always be lovers and haters. |
Jan 17, 2023 12:10 PM
#41
mdo7 said: Yes, of course they should. Sadly, audience is interested in such generic works.Memores said: Because this genre is popular in Japan, that is why. Then shouldn't older isekai before SAO getting resurgence in popularity like for example Aura Battler Dunbine, Fushigi Yugi, etc....??? Because that's not what I'm seeing from the fandom, or the original publishers/owners of those pre-SAO Isekai anime I've mentioned. |
Jan 17, 2023 12:37 PM
#42
Memores said: Yes, of course they should. Sadly, audience is interested in such generic works. This is why the isekai fandom really really pissed me off and I'm not even a fan of the genre (I'm a fan of retro classic anime). If only maybe 1 or 2 or 15 fans in that fandom have put enough effort & knowledge to educate and call on their fandom to support and give love & appreciation to pre-SAO isekai(s) anime. If they did that like on the same level My Hero Academia fans call on their fandom to support Tiger & Bunny, then many of our pre-SAO Isekai(s) would probably get the same level of love, appreciation, & mainstream interest that recent Isekai titles are getting. Do I think Aura Battler Dunbine, Escaflowne, Fushigi Yugi, Magic Knight Reyearth, NG Knight & Lamune, .Hack franchise all deserve the same love & appreciation from today's Isekai fanbase? Yes, they should, and all of these need to be given the same type of recognition SAO, and generic Isekai titles are getting, they're becoming forgotten in the age of today anime's popularity and these under-rated classic are being forgotten and I find that unacceptable for me!!! |
Jan 17, 2023 12:49 PM
#43
mdo7 said: I also like old classic anime. Sadly, we can't do anything to let this happen. Different people, tastes, moral values.Memores said: Yes, of course they should. Sadly, audience is interested in such generic works. This is why the isekai fandom really really pissed me off and I'm not even a fan of the genre (I'm a fan of retro classic anime). If only maybe 1 or 2 or 15 fans in that fandom have put enough effort & knowledge to educate and call on their fandom to support and give love & appreciation to pre-SAO isekai(s) anime. If they did that like on the same level My Hero Academia fans call on their fandom to support Tiger & Bunny, then many of our pre-SAO Isekai(s) would probably get the same level of love, appreciation, & mainstream interest that recent Isekai titles are getting. Do I think Aura Battler Dunbine, Escaflowne, Fushigi Yugi, Magic Knight Reyearth, NG Knight & Lamune, .Hack franchise all deserve the same love & appreciation from today's Isekai fanbase? Yes, they should, and all of these need to be given the same type of recognition SAO, and generic Isekai titles are getting, they're becoming forgotten in the age of today anime's popularity and these under-rated classic are being forgotten and I find that unacceptable for me!!! |
Jan 17, 2023 1:10 PM
#44
Jan 17, 2023 1:19 PM
#45
toxicsmurf said: Nilah said: Cause they are fun to watch. Its same thing as enjoying romcoms, just depends on what type of generic content you prefer. Some genres and meant to be watched as "junk food of anime" Take this person for example. Their taste in anime is so shallow and generic that they can't even think of an anime character to use as a pfp, instead opting for a video game character (Nilah from League of Legends). This is the target demographic for Isekai's: gamers with absolutely no imagination of their own Comes from a person who has like half his watched as romcoms and harems, they are just as shallow and generic. |
Jan 17, 2023 1:30 PM
#46
Jan 17, 2023 1:44 PM
#47
| Because they are normies that only like things because they are popular. We better be thankful every day that we're not like that. |
Jan 17, 2023 2:01 PM
#48
JestermanHo said: Zettaiken said: Do you mean with lots of fanservice?It makes money the same way as every other anime title. View counts in Tv Station, View counts in Online Streaming Services, Production Committee, Merch related to anime such as figurines, posters, other stuff, in some cases also theathers [wasn't checking to make sure if that's the reason of earning but that's what I'd expect the anime studio to gain money from] |
Jan 17, 2023 2:10 PM
#49
Comrade-Question said: "Reincarnated In Another World as The Demon Lord's Accountant" I would be genuinely interested in watching this one |
Jan 17, 2023 2:12 PM
#50
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