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| - Everyone gets invited to a "party", Suletta uses this just to see if Elan comes. - It's 100% confirmed that the Elan she knew was a clone and was disposed of, the real deal goes to the party to meet with her and "sort things out" through white lies Turns out the party is a set up to expose that the Gundam Suletta uses, is, in fact, a Gundam, alongside the other gundam Elan uses, which is also a gundam, but one that fucks it's user - Miorine steps in to "protect" her (Yuri fanboys will probably bloom this episode just for this interaction alone) by trying to make business out of a Gundam (???) and ask the people there to pledge, does not work, proceed to go to his father for help, he agrees (???) and then everyone else starts pledging until the business is on green light (???) This had a more political approach, but it was handled weirdly. Ah yes, the "mom" of Suletta is blatantly pushing Miorine to marry her daughter. Also, Mom tells Suletta that the Gundam, is in fact, a Gundam, confirming that she lied her. There's some interesting movement here, but if only this wasn't school and so damn contrived lol. (Also, I think that by now we can agree that Suletta is a clone of Eri from the Prologue, as her Mom doesn't look like the OG mom from the prologue) ACasualViewer said: Can someone explain the timeline? If the Vanadis incident was 21 years ago, wouldn't suletta actually be 25 years old? Not 17? rasterman7 said: Is Suletta's mom the same one as in the prologue? Her vibes are completely different, even her voice doesn't sound the same. In any case, that was quite the business proposal by Miorine, standing up for Suletta and all. With this new company let's see what's left in store. Suletta is not Eri from the prologue, if that were the case, she would be an adult in this timeline, but Suletta is still a teenager here. Also, Suletta's "mom" is definitely not her original mom, but someone that is possibly manipulating her for some shady shit. Who knows what's up with Eri's real mom and the real Eri, some memes implies Aerial is Eli (aERIal), so take this as a grain of sand. You'll probably get answers later (or not). |
CrimsonWandererNov 20, 2022 9:50 AM
| "We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes." ~Blackwall |
| This episode was so filled, I might need to watch it again. But while stuffed, it was also super interesting and exciting! And I could follow most of it. But there are still some questions I couldn't awnser: What did Nika do for Shaddiq? Did I forget something or is this a hint for future development of the characters? Is Nika not the nice friend she seems to be? Or did she unintentionally do something that benefited Shaddiq? What was the plan of the Jeturk family? Apperantly, they were trying to get something out of Prospera, but it failed due to Miorine's intervention. Guel's dad was defenetly upset about it. Did Zelling invest in Miorine's company? Guess that stays a secret. From what he said, it doesn't seem certain to me. Maybe someone else used to situation to get things started. And the Vanadis thing - is that confirmed to be the prologue? Or and event that made famous in the first place, since he had a massive political influence in the prologue already. The theory of Eri = Aerial had it's up and downs here. Apparently the "voices" are a known phenomen when two Gundams fight. But either Aerial or Suletta are defenetly special, since Prospera confirmed it/she is indeed a Gundam and not some improved model without damage to the pilot, as claimed in the interrogation. Still hard to tell how all of this is connected. The subtitles seem to be all over the place too. I've seen some with "my daugther" and some with "my daughterS" in the end. Maybe there will be more about it next episode. Aside from some scenes that were hard to follow, which might've been intentional, the episode was just great. Suletta is her usual self, but starts to become more confident - loveable as ever. Miorine finally got time to shine and shows what she's capable of. And how much she likes (or loves) Suletta. Even Shaddiq noticed how she changed. The real Elan is just as cold and cunning as the fake one. Still disagreeable, but I have to give him credit for his acting skills. Never lost his character, even with all the trouble going on. And I love Prospera's manipulation skills. Perhaps the most interesting character in the series. I presume she really wants her revenge on Zelling, but I have no idea what she thinks of Suletta, Aerial and their new ally Miorine. I just hope she hasn't lost her sanity and turns out to be a great mom for Suletta. |
| Undoubtedly anime of the year (possibly of the decade) !! |
| Miorine stole the show this episode. Things are really starting move now and I can't wait to see where it goes from here. Our poor innocent pure girl Suletta finding out that she has literally no idea what's going on around while being manipulated by almost everybody was something a lot of us have been waiting for I guess, I like that she really was standing her ground tho even if nobody was listening. It's a scenario that puts on display how strong willed both Suletta and Miorine are and I was relishing in it |
AdolZeppeli said: She's not Eri from the prologue? Then I guess I got mixed up by her being in the characters list.Suletta is not Eri from the prologue, if that were the case, she would be an adult in this timeline, but Suletta is still a teenager here. Also, Suletta's "mom" is definitely not her original mom, but someone that is possibly manipulating her for some shady shit. Who knows what's up with Eri's real mom and the real Eri, some memes implies Aerial is Eli (aERIal), so take this as a grain of sand. You'll probably get answers later (or not). |
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| Good episode. Not looking forward to when Suletta finds out this Elan isn't the one she fell in love with. Poor space tanuki is gonna break |
ACasualViewer said: Can someone explain the timeline? If the Vanadis incident was 21 years ago, wouldn't suletta actually be 25 years old? Not 17? Possibilities are Eri and Suletta aren't the same person (the fact the Elan we knew is not the real Elan hints suggests Suletta may be in a similar situation). Or Eri was in cryosleep for 4 years (they have interplanetary travel in this timeline) |
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TheMechaManiac said: My feelings exactly. Even Graham from 00 looks like a normal person in comparison to that dumb party. Although I did find the political stuff interesting, the melodramatic presentation ruined it for me. It‘s like the show is always in tonal clash with itself. Also is it just me or are Prospera‘s plans just incredibly stupid? Imagine relying your 21 years revenge plan on the hormones of a teenager with daddy issues.Incredibly chuuni episode, that's all I'm going to say. |
| Hory shiet was this episode hard to watch, why cant Suletta have 1% of Miorines spine? The second hand embarassment was too strong. Im legitely getting tired of Sulettas overly pathetic stuttering. Miorine is definitely the top in this relationship. Speaking of which, Im glad we have seen them spend more time together, even if Miorine is acting like a tsundere. So the Gundam is out of the bag, I wonder what Prosperas plan is PS: some people here are still in denial about the yuri aspect of this show lol |
Comander-07Nov 20, 2022 3:42 PM
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
rasterman7 said: AdolZeppeli said: She's not Eri from the prologue? Then I guess I got mixed up by her being in the characters list.Suletta is not Eri from the prologue, if that were the case, she would be an adult in this timeline, but Suletta is still a teenager here. Also, Suletta's "mom" is definitely not her original mom, but someone that is possibly manipulating her for some shady shit. Who knows what's up with Eri's real mom and the real Eri, some memes implies Aerial is Eli (aERIal), so take this as a grain of sand. You'll probably get answers later (or not). Eri in fact did exist, we don't know yet where she is tho, all I can grasp is that Suletta is not Eri, because the "mom" she refers to, is not the same as shown in the prologue, there's that, and her age wouldn't match her appearance. I'm sure they'll explain this later, all I can say is that either Eri is the "brother" that vision saw, or the Gundam has Eri's soul on it. |
| "We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes." ~Blackwall |
AdolZeppeli said: Hmm, that would make sense but yeah, we'll probably see more about it later.rasterman7 said: She's not Eri from the prologue? Then I guess I got mixed up by her being in the characters list. Eri in fact did exist, we don't know yet where she is tho, all I can grasp is that Suletta is not Eri, because the "mom" she refers to, is not the same as shown in the prologue, there's that, and her age wouldn't match her appearance. I'm sure they'll explain this later, all I can say is that either Eri is the "brother" that vision saw, or the Gundam has Eri's soul on it. |
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| While we didn't have the magical realist backdrops, the whole sequence at the incubation session did have some very real Utena vibes with the excessive theatricality of it all (especially with Suelleta's platform getting raised to that degree). Also, we have confirmation that it's been 21 years between the prologue and now - which confirms some weirdness about Suellta's age. |
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ACasualViewer said: Thats whats kind of sending this show on its head right now but the prevailing and currently building credibility theory is that Suletta is a clone of some kind of Eri who got assimilated into the Gundarm and has made up the AI within Aerial. They made mention this episode that the Gundarms can kill their pilots and everything with Elan has established that you can create copies of other people.Can someone explain the timeline? If the Vanadis incident was 21 years ago, wouldn't suletta actually be 25 years old? Not 17? |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| yeah, In their language her mother said "musume-tachi" that means plural things. Slowly prospera shows her true face |
| I wouldn't be quick to praise Miorine. Seems like all the sneakiest players were happy with what she did, meaning they can make her the scapegoat and sacrifice her for their own gain. She seems too naive still. |
| Miorine is always in attack mode but this time she showed a bit more than that when she had to ask for help to her dad for her start-up company. Now something might be going on with Shaddiq and Nika, interesting. I always feel that Guel's brother is going to rip off his hair at some point xD |
| The prologue was confirmed to be 21 years ago, so if Eri was Sulleta she should be 25 y.o right now. Meanwhile she was still teenager here. 🤔 I'm waiting for the reveal. |
davidyodo24Nov 21, 2022 1:26 AM
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| We finally back after 2 weeks and Suletta suffering continues. Seriously, Suletta cannot catch a break. Miorine the MVP though, she really created a startup company then and there and computed all the necessary expenses and shit, truly the top of her class and all for her groom. It's definitely not going to be easy from here on out though, in fact, things are probably going to get harder. Still, Miorine best girl. They look great in their dresses btw. Miorine managed to save Suletta there, but now it's time to save her mental health after that revelation from her totally sane and good parent. Can't wait for the next episode. |
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| eu acho que a suletta está bastante irritante nos capitulos recentes. a miorine é mais determinada como uma protagonista, e ela também tem qualidades superiores... acredito que o anime não está desenvolvendo bem os personagens tambem... não consigo ver nenhum avanço nisso. eu estava gostando, mas agora o anime ficou entediante |
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NewestPersonHere said: Mio reminds me of Shoko (Valrave The Liberator) this episode. Confirmed that the institute attack was 21 years ago. Further reinforces the fact that Suletta =/= Eri. I really don't like that. I hope they will go with suspended sleep or something like that, because I really don't like the idea of the main character being a clone or someone that can be replaced with a new version. It works in Star Wars : The Clone Wars because the whole affect is based on the idea that they are disposable canon fodder, but if the story plays that as a mystery, I feel it could come back the wrong way. She will die? it was not the real thing to begin with, so why would I care. Anyway, it seems they didn't totally went the "no problem with them using a gundam" way, which is nice. Still feels weird nobody seems to have noticed, but whatever. |
Turtles_HunterNov 21, 2022 5:13 PM
| I wonder - Eri would be 25 now (4 in episode 0, 21 years since then). What if Prospera is Eri? |
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| That was he shortest kickstarter campaign I've ever seen. |
| No tomo malas decisiones, solo me gusta apoyar causas perdidas. Disfruté Mayoiga, Ou-sama Game, Evil or Live, Mirai Nikki, Big Order, Arifureta, Ex-Arm, Tesla Note, Shuumatsu no Harem y Platinum End nope les falle con esa, lo siento pero todos tenemos nuestros límites. Así de jodido es mi gusto en anime, ¡Y estoy pinche orgulloso de ello!  |
| This was rather strange way to form a company. Besides, isn't it weird how Suletta did not recognize that something is different about this Elan? |
| Great revelation, we already knew, but it refused!!!! kekeke |
| So Suletta's machine is a Gundam...pretty obvious from the get-go and her bitch save her from the embarrassment by creating her own company GUND-AM... |
| Just watched the prologue before this (it was pretty freaking awesome), and I'd say that it does certainly elevate the viewing experience of an already-solid show even more. |
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Marinate1016 said: After a long two weeks, G witch is finally back and with a bang. First of all, Suletta and Miorine looked absolutely stunning today. Loved the dress designs. Appreciated the 4D chess from Suletta’s mom as well. The subtle encouragement of Miorine to set aside her pride which of course saved the day at the end by getting enough funds to start Gund-Arm, but also the not so subtle nods to my theory that arial is indeed the original girl from the prologue. “If it’s with you, I know my daughters are in good hands” . Would explain why she’s colder towards Suletta since she doesn’t view her as her “real” daughter. Other than that, LOVED Miorine’s little “I’ll protect you this time” line. The ice princess has started to let her guard down, you love to see it. They’re so gay for each other lol. A clone is just like your child having an identical twin, but not born from your womb. She's still genetically a descendant of Prospera. That’s if the theory is correct. |
Woodmann said: Marinate1016 said: After a long two weeks, G witch is finally back and with a bang. First of all, Suletta and Miorine looked absolutely stunning today. Loved the dress designs. Appreciated the 4D chess from Suletta’s mom as well. The subtle encouragement of Miorine to set aside her pride which of course saved the day at the end by getting enough funds to start Gund-Arm, but also the not so subtle nods to my theory that arial is indeed the original girl from the prologue. “If it’s with you, I know my daughters are in good hands” . Would explain why she’s colder towards Suletta since she doesn’t view her as her “real” daughter. Other than that, LOVED Miorine’s little “I’ll protect you this time” line. The ice princess has started to let her guard down, you love to see it. They’re so gay for each other lol. A clone is just like your child having an identical twin, but not born from your womb. She's still genetically a descendant of Prospera. That’s if the theory is correct. The theory is correct no doubt. |
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Marinate1016 said: Woodmann said: A clone is just like your child having an identical twin, but not born from your womb. She's still genetically a descendant of Prospera. That’s if the theory is correct. The theory is correct no doubt. Probably, I just quite disagree with “her mother is colder towards Suletta since she doesn’t view her as her “real” daughter.” Because the lyrics of the ED were made partly based on her mother's POV.
AdolZeppeli said: ACasualViewer said: Can someone explain the timeline? If the Vanadis incident was 21 years ago, wouldn't suletta actually be 25 years old? Not 17? rasterman7 said: Is Suletta's mom the same one as in the prologue? Her vibes are completely different, even her voice doesn't sound the same. In any case, that was quite the business proposal by Miorine, standing up for Suletta and all. With this new company let's see what's left in store. Suletta is not Eri from the prologue, if that were the case, she would be an adult in this timeline, but Suletta is still a teenager here. Also, Suletta's "mom" is definitely not her original mom, but someone that is possibly manipulating her for some shady shit. Who knows what's up with Eri's real mom and the real Eri, some memes implies Aerial is Eli (aERIal), so take this as a grain of sand. You'll probably get answers later (or not). Any evidence? If it's just her hair, it's not significant. Both have prosthetic right arms, don’t you remember? and the same voice. She probably just changed her hair color, the effect of living on mercury, or she became a full-fledged cyborg with artificial skin and hair. Mod edit: merged double post |
ZedlinNov 27, 2022 5:49 AM
Woodmann said: AdolZeppeli said: Suletta is not Eri from the prologue, if that were the case, she would be an adult in this timeline, but Suletta is still a teenager here. Also, Suletta's "mom" is definitely not her original mom, but someone that is possibly manipulating her for some shady shit. Who knows what's up with Eri's real mom and the real Eri, some memes implies Aerial is Eli (aERIal), so take this as a grain of sand. You'll probably get answers later (or not). Any evidence? If it's just her hair, it's not significant. Both have prosthetic right arms, don’t you remember? and the same voice. She probably just changed her hair color, the effect of living on mercury, or she became a full-fledged cyborg with artificial skin and hair. I know, right? It's almost like she came up with a "hazardous environment" excuse for the arm & Char mask she wears as a disguise in an earlier episode or something....And there's definitely no history of that in Gundam, like people never changed their appearance to hide cause they're fugitives or something COUGH"Quattro Bajeena"COUGH. LMFAO Muuuri said: I like the part where mom shakes Miorine hand with her prosthetic arm at the start and lecture her about being just a doll dressed in her father's name, and her real arm at the end when she took her first step out of her father's shadow. I didn't even realize that, daaamn awesome catch! Good episode! The plans and machinations are starting to take shape, alliances are being forges n shit is gonna go doooown! Great party outfits for everyone, like Suletta's dress definitely has more of those massive Utena influence vibes: with the style similar to Utena's in episode 3, and the white rose on the lapel too! Felt so bad for Suletta and worried when they had her exposed on stage, but Miorine clutched that shit out like a boss. Though now I have MASSIVE NEW WORRIES about Gund-Arm Inc. It feels like it will be abused by the other forces for their own gain, and that creating it will have massive negative repercussions down the line. Was a great desperate temporary bandaid, that will eventually get torn off hard. Definitely was disappointed and upset with Prospera getting pulled out of the party at the worst moment, but I should know better than to doubt a classic scheming badass Char type. So much to think about, Suletta is already clearly changing with the lie and Gundam reveal and will be shattered when Elan is exposed. The strange story/connection Shaddiq and Nika have is ominous as hell too. Now that Gundams are out in the open, what next? Can't wait!!! Mod edit: merged double posts |
ZedlinNov 27, 2022 5:47 AM
| @Woodmann Well I stand corrected, BUT I still don't consider that she is Suletta's real mom, unless she had another child after Eri, or Suletta ended up being a clone or something. Guess time will tell and I hope that's soon because the school garbage is really getting on my nerves. @Shady_Zaku No need for you to act like a piece of shit |
| "We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes." ~Blackwall |
| I LOVED the dresses in this, Suletta and Miorine looked absolutely fierce! |
| If it wasn't for Miorine, this would have been a GG, what a play. Wonder if Suletta will ever see that Elan doesn't want any good for her lmao |
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| wow prospera really sucks well now they revive gundam nice |
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