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Jul 12, 2022 10:21 AM
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First of all, Part I and Part II should have different pages. Even on Manga Plus they are separating Part I from Part II, so putting both on the same page is wrong. Imagine when part III, we would have 3 mangas as 1 on this site.
Jul 12, 2022 10:27 AM
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brenobluhm said:
Even on Manga Plus they are separating Part I from Part II, so putting both on the same page is wrong.


I'm not seeing the parts separated on either Manga Plus nor the VIZ app? I thought that's why MAL hasn't separated them either.
Jul 12, 2022 10:27 AM
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Manga Plus does not separate Part 2 from Part 1. The newest chapter is chapter #098 of Chainsaw Man.
Jul 12, 2022 10:29 AM
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KaijuSloth said:
Manga Plus does not separate Part 2 from Part 1. The newest chapter is chapter #098 of Chainsaw Man.
I’m sorry, japan manga plus is separating them. For some reason overseas one isn’t.
Jul 12, 2022 11:20 AM
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It's fine like this, this chapter is literally chapter #98 and the next volume will most likely be volume 12. It's a direct continuation and doesn't really need to be separated IMO.
Jul 12, 2022 11:24 AM
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Fully agree. They’re totally different stories. Almost like a complete sequel.
Jul 12, 2022 11:42 AM
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100%! Part 1 even had "Part1 fin" at the end just like JoJo does and also its been 2 years since 97...
Jul 12, 2022 11:43 AM
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The Japanese App that it is the origin and official publishing place separates them. this is an American issue. This is like if a translation in English phrased something in the wrong way making a funny moment sound more serious. Should everyone in America accept the translation provided rather than find the more accurate one and consider it correct? Yes, because there's a actual answer.
And for this situation it's common sense. Viz made a mistake in where it published it at directly compared to how it was originally separated from the prequel series. Viz should fix this.
But MAL if they do their research should make it it's own entity.
Also should we make Parts 1-8 and 9 it's own manga or separate it?
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Jul 12, 2022 12:05 PM
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Obviously they should ?
They modified this entry
Jul 12, 2022 12:11 PM

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Kobota said:
Totally agree, part 1 was serialized in Shounen Jump (Weekly) and part 2 began on Shounen Jump+, it's totally different.
Chainsaw Man has two different entries on ShounenJump+: Part 1-Part 2
Also with a probable change of main characters and new characters.
Being together the score will be affected, it's impossible to rate the same work when one of the two parts could be better or worse.
Just like the number of members can be more or less.
All the stats are now broken, untrackable, unfortunate decision.

It literally says chapter 98 in your link
Jul 12, 2022 12:12 PM

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brenobluhm said:
First of all, Part I and Part II should have different pages. Even on Manga Plus they are separating Part I from Part II, so putting both on the same page is wrong. Imagine when part III, we would have 3 mangas as 1 on this site.

Agreed. I was about to create a similar thread, but I saw you had already created it yourself.

I'd also opt for making another entry for CSM Part 2. As it was mentioned in previous posts, most of arguments for and against this idea favor the concept of having a separate entry.
Jul 12, 2022 12:24 PM

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Rip the 260,000 people with it in their completed sections. Seems like an odd choice if the volumes come out and it’s marketed as part 2. Also since they’re in different magazines and it is literally like part 2, so like I said, if the volumes come out with part 2, then it’s really the same as Tokyo ghoul.
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Jul 12, 2022 12:25 PM

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Aika said:
Kobota said:
Totally agree, part 1 was serialized in Shounen Jump (Weekly) and part 2 began on Shounen Jump+, it's totally different.
Chainsaw Man has two different entries on ShounenJump+: Part 1-Part 2
Also with a probable change of main characters and new characters.
Being together the score will be affected, it's impossible to rate the same work when one of the two parts could be better or worse.
Just like the number of members can be more or less.
All the stats are now broken, untrackable, unfortunate decision.

It literally says chapter 98 in your link


Japanese version of the app has them as 2 separate series... like it should be
Jul 12, 2022 12:28 PM
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The first part in Manga Plus site/app was only translated to English. Now, the new part also is in Brazilian Portuguese, Spanish, Thai and English, with all the three firsts chapters also translated. There are two Chainsaw Man sections. Sorry my bad English.
Jul 12, 2022 12:32 PM
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goldoferis said:
brenobluhm said:
Even on Manga Plus they are separating Part I from Part II, so putting both on the same page is wrong.


I'm not seeing the parts separated on either Manga Plus nor the VIZ app? I thought that's why MAL hasn't separated them either.

Yeah, I’ve noticed that too. I’d only say make it two separate pages if they do a JoJo thing when it’s a physical release.
Jul 12, 2022 12:37 PM

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I have already made request for Chainsaw Man Part 2 as a new entry and also for Chainsaw Man to be a completed series... let's just hope and wait
Jul 12, 2022 12:38 PM

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No. The next volume being published is already confirmed to be volume 12, it's literally the same series.
Jul 12, 2022 12:54 PM

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thats like saying JoJo parts 1-8 are same series.... it's literally the same case here... years passed since part 1, which even had "part1 fin" at the end... part1 had its story concluded and this feels like beginning of a different story
Jul 12, 2022 1:04 PM

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yeah I agree that this feels like a jojo part kind of deal

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Jul 12, 2022 1:04 PM

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I don't know why they haven't done it already
Jul 12, 2022 1:34 PM

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MDTURZA said:
thats like saying JoJo parts 1-8 are same series.... it's literally the same case here... years passed since part 1, which even had "part1 fin" at the end... part1 had its story concluded and this feels like beginning of a different story


Except that Parts 1-8 ARE the same series. They are all Jojo, end of story.
Jul 12, 2022 1:46 PM

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Oongbuh said:
MDTURZA said:
thats like saying JoJo parts 1-8 are same series.... it's literally the same case here... years passed since part 1, which even had "part1 fin" at the end... part1 had its story concluded and this feels like beginning of a different story


Except that Parts 1-8 ARE the same series. They are all Jojo, end of story.

There's also Dragon ball, where people generally consider Z and DB to be separate things, but the japanese volumes consider them one continuous release (and the MAL entry reflects this). Correct me if I'm wrong, but iirc, the japanese volumes of Jojo (the first 5 parts) also have a connected volume count, so MAL technically should combine them as well. This topic gets pretty confusing.

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Jul 12, 2022 1:48 PM

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MAL is gonna do whatever Viz does and Viz says this is chapter 98.

In the chapter it also just says "Chainsaw Man"
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Jul 12, 2022 2:15 PM
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fujimoto wrote “chapter 98” on the first page though
Jul 12, 2022 2:21 PM
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I think they were expecting to but the new chapter was literally published as "Chainsaw Man chapter 98" its just a continuation of the same series officially so naturally they'd just use this same page.
Jul 12, 2022 2:26 PM

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If we're just continuing with chapter 98, vol 12 then there's no need for a new entry.

Obviously 98 seemed a bit different but this will still most likely end up being a direct continuation of part 1 with Denji as the MC. This is just a new saga, not an entirely different story like JoJo does.
Jul 12, 2022 3:18 PM

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Read the database guide lines lol
Jul 12, 2022 4:52 PM

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According to pattern, JoJo Part 6 as ONA show shouldn't be divided into separate entries, but it is. I guess it's a matter of whoever adds certain entry's whim on whether it will follow the known pattern or not. It's my hunch anyway. If I'm wrong, feel free to tell me.
Jul 12, 2022 4:53 PM

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agreed, even anilist has it as a separate entry
Jul 12, 2022 5:24 PM

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Agree. I really don't want to rate this new story with the last one. I prefer to keep them separated.
Jul 12, 2022 5:46 PM
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Thread moved from the Chainsaw Man series discussion board to the Manga DB Modification Requests board.

As written in the manga database guidelines, sequel series will be kept in the original entry if the chapter count continues.
II. Manga Entry Division
II.2 Prequel/Sequel Volumes
    II.2.2 Sequel volumes will have their own entries if given a different title, unless:
      volume numbering continues despite title change;
      chapter numbering continues;
      volumes and chapters have no incremental values and no distinguable gap in serialization; and/or
      serialization officially ended and then resumed within 3 months.
The most recent chapter has continued the chapter numbering, and as such, there is no intention of adding an additional entry for the second part of Chainsaw Man. The status of the entry is entirely up to the guidelines themselves, and in this case, would lead to this series simply be set back to publishing, which it has. If you have any other inquiries, feel free to message me!
Jul 17, 2022 5:46 PM

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I quess we'll see if the volumes will be released under a different title or if it's actually just indended to be viewed as single series.
You all need to watch Nami.

Jul 17, 2022 5:46 PM

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Adnash said:
According to pattern, JoJo Part 6 as ONA show shouldn't be divided into separate entries, but it is. I guess it's a matter of whoever adds certain entry's whim on whether it will follow the known pattern or not. It's my hunch anyway. If I'm wrong, feel free to tell me.
Anime airing has a bit different guidelines than manga publishing.
You all need to watch Nami.

Jul 27, 2022 1:44 AM

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Anime takes 3 month break, iTs A dIfFeReNt SeRiEs, manga takes 18month break and it's called Part2, iTs ThE sAmE tHiNg

Jul 28, 2022 1:58 AM

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SteelingMax said:
Anime takes 3 month break, iTs A dIfFeReNt SeRiEs, manga takes 18month break and it's called Part2, iTs ThE sAmE tHiNg

Yeah, manga isn't anime, who knew.
You all need to watch Nami.

Jul 28, 2022 5:49 PM

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abystoma2 said:
SteelingMax said:
Anime takes 3 month break, iTs A dIfFeReNt SeRiEs, manga takes 18month break and it's called Part2, iTs ThE sAmE tHiNg

Yeah, manga isn't anime, who knew.
Cope, you say that as if it explains why anime works one way and manga another.

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