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| Boring. Everyone falls in love with Catarina, and wants to be romantically involved. There are no real stakes, sense of danger, angst, or anything throughout the show. It’s just a tired harem, I wish they would have given characters their own personalities, something more than “I love Catarina” Wouldn’t hurt to have a character or two that genuinely dislike her. Also wouldn’t hurt for the concept of loss of life to be an actual thing, “dark magic” isn’t scary at all when all it does is knock people unconscious. 4/10 for this season |
| I could agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong. |
| It could end with sequels till the end of her life XD I think this season wasn't as good as the last one. But I hope for a third one :) |
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| ROFL Fortune Love II But how? If Bakarina never heard or played it, how did she dream of it? Was it somehow from Acchan's past memories when the girls were sleeping together? More importantly... how is Bakarina gonna go this time? cause she never heard or played it, so she has zero idea on the routes and characters involved. hmm.... Bakarina's basically playing "new game plus" as a newbie. (plus, like in the dream, Acchan said "how is Catarina here" is the biggest question... since she's suppose to be exiled after the first game, why or how is she back? this sounds like the 2nd game is on a parallel universe and doesn't follow the events of 1st game and both game can be played individually) |
| Nothing Written Here But Us Anime Bunnies *boing boing boing* |
| Overall, this season was the calm before the storm, it seems.. ;P I'm glad this series is back.. But also I wish we'd have some doom to solve, like it was in season 1.. Well, it seems, we'll have one, or rather several Bad Ends to solve in season 3.. ;P And this season was more slice of life'ish stuff.. We got couple of plot points.. Especially in episode 11.. As well as had some other characters to the mix, not everything is clear with some of them.. Overall - glad that this anime is back.. And hope that we'll have season 3.. ;P |
| Finally finished this wonderful adaptation but the story is yet to be finished by a long shot. The cliffhangers with Acchan was greatly created and Catarina getting obnoxiously dumbfounded is really hilarious 😂. I need more! 😭 |
| It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it, is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service. |
| Katarina and the gang graduate with Katarina and Maria off to join the Department of Magic. Feels good, man. I can't be the only one who thinks that this season didn't need to happen and that the ending of the first season was enough. Overall this season was just more of the same. If you liked the first season, I'd assume you'd be happy with this one. Not me, I felt myself groaning and rolling my eyes constantly, but hey, I finished it thank god. The best part of the show was best boy Nicol getting his own dedicated episode. |
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Royalty459 said: I just want to say you said everything i wanted to say about this anime. It is trash and i hope there isnt a third season. That Keith comment at 16:02 is super creepy to say the least. Like dude chill out she's your sister and you're really doing this shit? This is why I prefer Alan, Nicol, or Maria because they wouldn't force themselves on her like this and don't act as desperate as the others. Imma be honest, I didn't enjoy this season as much as the first. The harem got to big, Caterina even got dumber and more oblivious, and the episodes just seemed random and like filler. Caterina is also too forgiving and has zero sense of danger even when being kidnapped. She honestly has become an annoying character to me. |
| This was probably one of the most disappointing sequels I've ever watched in the past decade. I don't say this lightly. This series would've left a much better impression on me if the second season didn't exist at all. Generally when you go into a sequel you expect some kind of continuity. Hamefura had a central plot in the first season: Catarina had to ensure she avoided "her" fate in Fortune Lover. By the end of first season, this plotline had (long) been resolved. But in its place, the second season put in nothing. Instead, it was simply reduced to the worst kind of generic harem where nothing of import happens for most of the season and conflicts either are glossed over or just conveniently resolve themselves. What makes this worse than your average Gary Stu/Mary Sue business is several-fold. One, Catarina was astoundingly oblivious with the memory of a guppy. The first season I think you can somewhat chalk her missing clues up to her being dense, but this season people are just outright kissing her on the lips, planting hickies on her, and confessing. Yet no romantic progress was made at all. We don't even witness Catarina ponder about this. How? Two, while you can at least understand why her actions in the first season affected the people around her and drew them to her the way it did, in the second season it seemed like she could be saying or doing the most unremarkable things and they would be treated as making her oh-so-special. This made her charms (and I considered her first season self charming in some respects) seem rather artificial. Three, there just a total failure of plot tension. Everything just worked out for her for no good reason. Oh, she was kidnapped. But after a conversation with the kidnapper the kidnapper falls for her and kidnapping ends. Oh, her brother was kidnapped. But after she just happened to buy something on the market it allowed her to absorb dark magic and gain a new companion. Four, there was zero character development. I personally would've preferred one or two pairings to be established at least, but not only did the season fall short of that, now no one has a personality beyond really, really liking Catarina. All this created a weird dynamic where Catarina was totally the center of all things yet she didn't seem to have a substantial impact on the direction of the plot because she's a passive actor for whom the plot sea would split. There was no story to tell other than "Catarina and her friends, every one of whom wants to get with her, stumble into some problems that they easily resolve just because." It was honestly difficult to sit through. I typically grade anime on a 5 point scale going from 5 to 10. Occasionally I find something so hard to stomach that a part of me almost wants to go back and adjust all scores I've ever given just so I could give that thing a score below 5. I'm somewhat surprised that a sequel to Hamefura would arouse that sentiment so strongly. |
| We have gone full circle and ended the season with another graduation! The girls in this series are way thirstier than the guys are. Of course, the original game had a sequel. I'm actually pretty ok with this series having more sequels. As long as they don't have so many kidnappings... |
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zannett said: This was probably one of the most disappointing sequels I've ever watched in the past decade. I don't say this lightly. This series would've left a much better impression on me if the second season didn't exist at all. Generally when you go into a sequel you expect some kind of continuity. Hamefura had a central plot in the first season: Catarina had to ensure she avoided "her" fate in Fortune Lover. By the end of first season, this plotline had (long) been resolved. But in its place, the second season put in nothing. Instead, it was simply reduced to the worst kind of generic harem where nothing of import happens for most of the season and conflicts either are glossed over or just conveniently resolve themselves. I agree completely. I enjoyed the show but it felt very lackluster and seemed to implore the same routine again and again, it just wasn't very interesting. I'll likely watch part of the next season, just to see if they somehow go somewhere with the material but I don't have very high hopes. |
| Please tell me the film would at least be about FORTUNE LOVER II STARRING SORA <3333333 hehehe would 1000000% be into it for him This season overall just felt like an extended OVA lol it’s definitely nice additional content for fans but I can see why for others it would be kinda repetitive & boring. I still enjoyed it tho since the characters crack me up. Till then! Excited for the film♡ |
 ꕤ but i’ll probably remember over and over again you were there and everyone else was there — the day we all searched for just one thing ꕤ |
| I quite loved and enjoyed season 2, but I feel season 1 was a bit better. Both are still really great though :D. In general, I absolutely LOVE this anime! I am VERY glad that it is continuing :D. |
| What an ending, so she finally graduated and now arc 2 starts lmao Glad that they have shown a little of her past life, even tho that's almost nothing but that's all we get for now. This season had a little more action and plot twists but it's still a 7/10. |
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| New love interests!! And a movie coming up!! |
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| On the whole the second season of Hamefure was still fine but definitely a step down compared to the first. The thing is a lot of the humor of the first season stems from Catarina desperately trying to prevent her bad ends and in her fumbling around subverting the usual otome game routine due to her accidentally triggering the flags and events meant for other characters. But without that element the series basically became a standard reverse harem. Even more so since the girls of her harem were basically sidelined in favor of more aggressively pushing some of the boys especially Geordo, which I wasn't much of a fan of, but I guess that's up to personal taste. Though, that reminds me, what the heck actually happened to her toy snake? That was her ultimate plan of getting Geordo off her back but that plot point seemingly vanished and was forgotten about completely. There were also some other points that were kinda dragging the story down like the three times repeat of the "kidnapped by dark magic user" plotline. At that point you could genuinely ask who the next character is going to be that gets kidnapped. Well hopefully with the start of what seems to be the Fortune Love 2 plotline and therefore the reemergence of the otome game constraints and possible bad ends Hamefura will get back to its old form. |
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| Good watch, I'll start by saying till the end, i enjoyed season 2 very much. Compared to season 1, the plot especially was understandably very different. Season 1's core concept was Catarina dodging as many pre determined red flags as possible with her knowledge of the "Fortune Lover" game. Along side some really good character development, what got me liking season 1 was watching as Catarina weaved her way as the supposed antagonist towards her own ending. Season 2 was marginally different plot wise as it didn't have the core concept that season 1 had of Catarina essentially avoiding the red flags. This season kinda felt more like generic SOL, Romance, fantasy isekai anime just with the s1 characters. Not saying that this is bad, quite frankly the arcs and plot points brought in this season were enough to carry the show and still make it an interesting watch for me. Overall 7/10, i thoroughly enjoy this season and what it brought to the table, however s1 will always have a special place in my heart for what it did. |
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| YES- The return to the death flag format will be incredible. Love that we go essentially a free season in between the two games, even if this season wasn't nearly as good as last season. |
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| The harem is so self aware that they even acknowledge our bakarina is a black hole Anyways i look forward to seeing who gets sucked in next during the movie. See yall |
| Fun season but bit of a step down with the whole doom flag thing already resolved in s1 and stuff yet still had some great moments like the Nicol centered episode. |
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| They better make a sequel! |
If you are going to disagree with me, don't bother talking to me. I will seriously hurt you! |
| Found this season a little weak, too much time spent on flashbacks and kidnappings that could've been spent on progressing relationships, especially for the harem. The only reason they seem to be friends is a shared love of bakarina. |
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| Alan and bakarina best couple |
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| "dont let just anyone lure you in with sweets" "youve seduced another one catarina" i hope that fortune lover 2 wasnt a hint at a third season. i liked the first one but this honestly left a bad taste in my mouth, it just wasnt nowhere near as good as the first one so im just worried that the third one will be mediocre as well. there is that movie but im not sure if im up to watching it. and honestly anne is my favorite chracter from the whole series. |
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