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Apr 24, 2022 11:04 PM
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What do you hate about romance, harems, and rom-coms? I don't think I hate anything about it, but if I'm going to hate something, it's probably the storyline or a character. When it comes to harems, I just hate them because most of the time, the other girl falls in love with the wrong guy, and then they don't even make another guy, so the girl who is in love with the wrong guy can't have a happy ending.
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Apr 24, 2022 11:47 PM
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Harems - The indecisiveness of the protagonist and even worse if he has no personality & the generic character traits for the girls in general

Romance - Sometimes it's a little too cheesy, especially shonen romance where the protagonist is a loser so to say to make it relatable to some guys

Romcom - Nothing if done well
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Apr 25, 2022 12:04 AM
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I can never stand when romance stories pull the old "Character was about to confess and end the entire series" only to get interrupted by something random. It's so irritating, and just feel like the author slapping you in the face and saying "Oh, you wanted story progression? Well too bad, we have to drag this out for another 100 chapters."

Also, I may simply be not well-read in the genre, but I would love to see a lot more romance stories about an actual romance like I Can't Understand What My Husband Is Saying or Ore Monogatari instead of being focused on only the events that lead into a relationship.

Also also, dense main characters who are totally oblivious to all the romantic interest shown towards them get really tiring.
Apr 25, 2022 12:07 AM
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romance - sometimes its too cheesy/cringe(?). i dont like it when some romances have protagonists that are too relatable to the point where it can make you lose interest.

romcoms - i dont think i've seen enough to have anything to hate about it

harems - i hate it when the guy and girls have no personality and have generic character traits




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Apr 25, 2022 7:18 AM
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Harems - The fact that a guy doesn't take a charge into a one girl and the others are still stick to one guy instead of just simply resigning and finding another "better" guy

Romance - So 1-3+ seasons of hanging out and 0 progress ? Are you f serious? In this case it is a SoL instead of Romance I don't care what they think, I want to see the physical development in their relationship not how much they think and don't do anything.

Romcoms - As for above, but as long as the comedy is strong it doesn't matter as I will consider this as a comedy anime x)

Apr 25, 2022 9:44 AM
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i'm not a fan of shows where a beautiful girl falls in love with some generic looking guy
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Apr 25, 2022 10:21 AM
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damn what's with the influx of "what do you hate about romance" threads lmao


anywho the 2 main things it really boils down to are love triangles and inability to form coherent sentences (I don't mind misunderstandings per se because they will always exist, it's more what causes them and how they're dealt with).

more specifically I do have qualms with things like how josei smut is most of the time how someone else put it, "my wet hole calls out for him, he’s so good at fingering/sucking/fucking" which somehow permits utter stupidity at times lol, or shounen romcoms having slower development than it takes a harem protag to realize a girl's feelings, but otherwise the above 2 are the most common problems I notice
Apr 25, 2022 10:27 AM
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Lacks character dimension, most of all. But even if there is, superficiality in regards to depth & authenticity can still pose a problem that most rom-coms fall victim too. Otherwise, I hate how formulaic and monotonous they get, especially when abusing anime tropes for the heck of it.
Apr 25, 2022 10:36 AM
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Romance is too formulaic. Loser guy ends up with the hottest/cutest or one of the hottest/cutest girls with little obstacles. Guys with low self-esteem can self-insert into that generic MC, and fantasize about getting a gf like that. Romance would be much better if there are real challenges, misunderstandings...heartbreaks...and where both characters making compromises to make it work. Real life is not like Disney. Real life is brutal af. The reality is that most relationships either fail or end up as generic ones, where the passion fades, and where people just "settle" for whatever they can get. Also, anime tend to have shit female MCs... Romance would be better if the female character had some personality and depth. Being shy/cute is not good enough.
Apr 25, 2022 10:39 AM

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For me most of the gripe comes up with cliched japanese point of view in romance, like stuttering and sweating just because sitting next to each other, while i get sometimes its ok but its exaggerated to the top and what not tsundere type girl is most prevalent in rom-com anime which is another shitty thing.

Characters are same cookie cutter format as there is nothing new about them and they all follow the same trope which i have seen in many romance anime and last but not the least romance atleast for me is not entertaining as i don't get any kick in watching people in love, very controversial but i don't like celebrity gossip of their love life or any of my close friends love life debates, got my own to deal with.
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Apr 25, 2022 11:09 AM
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I love romance and RomComs, I'm not really a fan of harems though.
Apr 25, 2022 12:55 PM

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Apr 29, 2022 7:22 AM
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Dawson_Armstrong said:
I can never stand when romance stories pull the old "Character was about to confess and end the entire series" only to get interrupted by something random. It's so irritating, and just feel like the author slapping you in the face and saying "Oh, you wanted story progression? Well too bad, we have to drag this out for another 100 chapters."

Also, I may simply be not well-read in the genre, but I would love to see a lot more romance stories about an actual romance like I Can't Understand What My Husband Is Saying or Ore Monogatari instead of being focused on only the events that lead into a relationship.

Also also, dense main characters who are totally oblivious to all the romantic interest shown towards them get really tiring.

If you don't mind SoL and a lack of drama then you should try Tonikaku Kawaii at some point, maybe you'd like it. The first ep doesn't sell it though.
Apr 29, 2022 7:24 AM

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with romcoms and romance almost all of them are cringy as fuck with the exception of a few hidden gems

harem is harem and therefore it sucks
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Apr 29, 2022 7:28 AM

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Worst girl/boy always wins. Looks like the parameters for who will end up with the MC depends on how horribly they treat them and idiotic authors and fans will call it "development". This is one of the main reasons I usually don't like romance, specially when more than one love interest is involved.
Apr 29, 2022 7:28 AM
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The simple fact they are romance, harems and rom-coms. I just don't like them.
Apr 29, 2022 7:36 AM

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a fresh take would be instead of mc retaliating to violent tsundere, he just defend himself successfully. could be as smooth as sakamoto desu ga, not because of passive plot armor skill effect.
Apr 29, 2022 7:55 AM

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The only real trope in romance i hate is the "Couple tries to kiss but always get interrupted".
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Apr 29, 2022 8:05 AM

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TheBlockernator said:
The only real trope in romance i hate is the "Couple tries to kiss but always get interrupted".


This for me too, but to a larger extent. To squeeze more content out of it, so many times there will be unrealistic or unneccesary drama thrown in to a relationship, even when the show could so easily function well without it.
          
Apr 29, 2022 6:22 PM

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It would probably just how they write the romance no?

I could take any premise, character trope, or plot trope if they can suspend my disbelief in their dialogues and make it interesting.
Apr 29, 2022 6:31 PM

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Harem, I usually don't mind other than how unrealistic most of it is for sure. But it's anime, so this already is the realm of being unrealistic. But the one harem anime which was really a bizarre stretch into this genre was the Quintessential quintuplets anime.

It's already unbelievable enough to have 5 women after you if you're just an average teenage boy, but 5 Twin sisters, all with different personalities is where I had to draw the line, since I usually don't mind harem so much. The male fantasy and all.

I ended up watching it and even looked at the ending of the manga to see who mc married, but the ridiculousness of it made me truly understand how dumb harem are, but as a straight male, I'll keep on watching them.

Romance is just okay. I get bored of them but romcoms are usually fun to watch.
Apr 29, 2022 6:35 PM

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NickRedMachine said:
TheBlockernator said:
The only real trope in romance i hate is the "Couple tries to kiss but always get interrupted".


This for me too, but to a larger extent. To squeeze more content out of it, so many times there will be unrealistic or unneccesary drama thrown in to a relationship, even when the show could so easily function well without it.


On the flip side, I recently watched tonikawa and it was annoying how often they kissed at the end of almost every episode. Then the rest of the anime for the most part was pretty cringey and mc was annoying, but maybe I was annoyed at how innocent he was while how overly romantic he was trying to be. Something about the whole thing bothered me, maybe because I've already been married for a few years and way past all of that silliness.
Apr 29, 2022 6:38 PM

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Romance: I dislike drama and bishounen boy romance leads.
Harems:I dislike when the harem lacks defining traits outside wanting to bang the mc.
Rom-coms: I dislike sudden tonal shifts and amnesia plotlines

On a side note romance widely varies by target demographics.
This may be why I dislike a lot of shoujo romance like Fruits Basket.

Average looking male mcs in romance are to cater to a male audience.
Bishounen boys are to cater to a female audience.
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May 3, 2022 7:57 AM

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chronofantasy said:
NickRedMachine said:


This for me too, but to a larger extent. To squeeze more content out of it, so many times there will be unrealistic or unneccesary drama thrown in to a relationship, even when the show could so easily function well without it.


On the flip side, I recently watched tonikawa and it was annoying how often they kissed at the end of almost every episode. Then the rest of the anime for the most part was pretty cringey and mc was annoying, but maybe I was annoyed at how innocent he was while how overly romantic he was trying to be. Something about the whole thing bothered me, maybe because I've already been married for a few years and way past all of that silliness.


Some people never get past that phase, though! Relationships are different for everyone. I know what you mean, but I love Ore Monogatari for example. The relationship gets established as early as episode 3, and I think it remains really fun to watch until the end at episode 12.

On the flipside, I also love Tsuki Ga Kirei, where the relationships is a bit wishy washy until the end, and has its fair share of drama. The difference with the type I mentioned in the quoted post though (cough, Kimi ni Todoke.. blegh) is that the drama in Tsuki Ga Kirei is realistic and is something any teen couple might encounter.
          
May 3, 2022 9:03 AM
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I think what's incredibly and unrealistically frustrating in my opinion and what almost makes me drop the majority of romance based anime's is how certain characters or the main character who is clueless to the supporting characters love interest in the main character by doing blatantly obvious actions or says certain things that would realistically let people catch a cue.

I think harem's are a hit or miss for me, I'm not too interested in harems that don't have an actual story to it.
May 3, 2022 10:32 AM

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I don't hate any of these genres. Don't get me wrong, that doesn't mean I like them either. They just don't often interest me in the first place... Most of the time romance and harem are just like, peak anime genericism.
May 3, 2022 10:37 AM

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Harems: The more I think about most of them are just psuedo harems, I have yet was able to see a genuine harem where they actually share the MC. Granted it's not realistic irl. The fuck does that matter it's fiction at the end of the day.

I don't think I have a problem with romance other than dragging the show along to just say "I love you".

May 3, 2022 12:35 PM

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forgot to add, this isn't like common but should there be a somewhat ntr element, most of time the conflict didn't get resolved properly. like they don't know how to solve ntr conflict which leaves a super bitter feels if caught watching this type of plot. it's why i dodge ntr stuff or take extra steps in finding out more without spoiling myself.

harem can be easy to watch but they lack a proper closure, or ending. the screen time could be unfair to certain character.
May 3, 2022 1:05 PM

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That none of the harem animes is worth watching after finishing TWGOK. Well maybe only monogatari if you consider it one
May 3, 2022 3:12 PM

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Romance: Most of the time the relationships just come off as really close friendships and not actual romance. E.g. Chunibyo and Tenki no Ko.

Harem: Always the same self insert garbage intended to appeal to low life weebs. No one ever tries to do something unique with the genre. The only good Harems are literally Quintessential and Monogatari, NOTHING else.

Rom-com: There's almost always zero actual romance at all. E.g. Komi San, Nagatoro, Kaguya Sama, etc.
May 3, 2022 5:06 PM

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It's when the tsundere character yells, punches, curses, spits shit out of her mouth. Plus point if the comedy is loud = funny.
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May 3, 2022 5:16 PM

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Rejuvenated said:
Harem: Always the same self insert garbage intended to appeal to low life weebs. No one ever tries to do something unique with the genre. The only good Harems are literally Quintessential and Monogatari, NOTHING else.



Kaminomi begs to differ.

Also Monogatari has plenty of content that should appeal to low-lifes but it gets a pass because it's pretentious too I guess.
May 4, 2022 4:34 AM
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Harems tend to have screentime distribution issues leading to interesting characters getting shafted in terms of development. Very frequent issue in pretty much every era of harems. Even the ones I'd consider best struggle with this.

May 5, 2022 1:41 AM

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A typical answer is the viewer likes one girl, but the protagonist chooses a different girl.

My answer is after the anime ends and the protagonist is still single, is what I hate about these types of anime.
May 5, 2022 1:59 AM

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I'll make it simple :

Romance - love triangle
Harems - mc doesn't pick one of the girls or make all of the girls happy
romcoms - not comedy enough
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May 5, 2022 2:04 AM

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I dont hate romcoms or romance in particular and if done well, Harems are great as well. The only thing that might annoy me is probably a love triangle or polygon. Sometimes a new challenger is introduced out of nowhere and is a nuisance, otherwise it becomes hard for me to decide who to root for.
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Harem: a protagonist that is clueless to girls attention. He has no dick nor brain to understand why girls are fawning over him. A lucky bastard that wastes all opportunities.
May 5, 2022 7:21 PM

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I wouldn't say I HATE them, but romance just doesn't work well for me in an animated medium in general. The music is off or feels too manipulative, the pauses between romantic moments aren't how I'd prefer them, the blushing looks weird and overdone when seen in motion, and so on. So while I love romance manga and novels, it's hard for a romance anime to get the same happy squeal reaction from me.

Anyways, actual answers!
Romance: It's boring how it's always the exact same plot over and over and over again. Valentine's Day Panic/Jealousy, Midterms Study-Meet up, Horny Beach Episode, Summer Festival Fireworks Confession, Cultural Festival Comedy, Big Fight Because One Of The Two Is Busy During Christmas Date Time, Shrine Visit, Graduation Drama. Maybe throw in a sneaky school trip for good measure.
At this point I adore non-school romances just for the fact that they only hit like half of the typical scenes. And don't get me wrong, I have no issue with any of them in general, it just gets stale.

Harems/Reverse harems: No shade to polyamourous people, but to me, romance is something between 2 people, not a whole group. Not like romance is much of a thing in these anyways. It's just some pathetic wish fulfillment fantasy where the protagonist gets smothered with affection from ALL the hot girls/guys for virtually no reason at all. I hate how it usually makes no sense for all of them to be attracted to the protag at all, I hate how there can never be proper relationship progress with any of them because that would enrage the fans of the other harem members, and how almost always, the characters are nothing more than some sad, empty shells consisting of a color scheme and one character trait, because any more than that would require more screentime and development than the 3 minutes they get to give everyone their fair share.

Rom-Coms: I generally don't hate anything about these, aside from the humor not always landing for me, but that's just personal preference. They can get frustrating when the comedy aspect rules everything, to the point where it's like...did you forget you were also supposed to have romance? Something like Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-kun or Wotakoi are very funny to me, but it becomes frustrating when there's zero romantic progress by the end of it.
May 13, 2022 6:23 AM
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Romance and rom-coms? Fine for me.

Harem symbolizes blandness.
May 13, 2022 7:49 AM

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Female characters personality and designs. Really lacks variety.

It would be nice to have more female characters that were not romantically interested in a male character and be relegated to evil bitch type because of it
May 13, 2022 9:41 AM

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Romance: love triangles, most of them are crap, annoying and irritating af.
Harem: the genre itself is utter crap.
Romcom: dunno, maybe nothing.
May 13, 2022 9:43 AM

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Rom-coms usually drag on and on imo

With harems the girl I think is best never wins so :(


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