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animejas said: Playcool said: I do understand that they wanted to go for something more somber, but I m of the opinion the manga scene was far more loveable, you can feel the love from both sides, and it is just a warm moment... the studios here wanted to go with something colder to illustrate the result of everything that has happen to this point, but also to avoid dealing with censoring stuff here and there, and trying not to risk it. Noneless, when I was reading the LN, I felt happier, and when I read the manga version (which I actually spoiled myself with first, before reading LN vol6), that just had the perfect amount of everything, it was perfection considering both characters. The manga version will regain as the best for me, but I can respect and did felt for what they did here, it played well with the mood of the whole episode. I can respect your take on this. For me personally I felt like given the gravity of everything that happened, it's just a bit difficult to be all lovey-dovey with the mood since while it's the most heartwarming and satisfying theme to read, it also doesn't mesh well with the fact that she just learned about her family being dead on top of Ruijerd being gone now, and she was still shaken up by the events of the previous episode with Rudeus' near-death via Orsted's hands. And it also felt like she had some resolve to do this while knowing that she's going to depart anyway to fulfill the promise early. For all those intense and melancholic feelings, having the scene go down in an awkward way feels and the way the memories/flashbacks were integrated into the scene felt more fitting and artistic with the whole story direction, which I prefer over having a weird tone-shift to to cutesy romantic mood. Again, I understand and rate why some people prefer the other way but this felt more consistent with me to the story whereas the manga in general has been pretty inconsistent with handling the tone of certain scenes with some scenes being overdone like the Paul-Rudeus reunion and some of the stuff in the Shirone arc too. In a way, that's my preference too. And that is why I said this kinda of direction made more sense considering the mood they were going for this whole episode, whereas with the manga, you could argue the purpose was really to lighten stuff up and then deliver a punch. In a way, I do feel you would have more people bitching because it would constrat more with the rest of the episode, and then again, they also wanted to make it feel less sexy, the manga there had no problems of teasing just a bit. You also have to consider the LN itself, it was definitely most sensual there, Eris was blushing HARD on that illustration where she pushes down on him and whispers the devil words on this ears. xD In the end I just wanted to see Eris blushing a bit more, both the LN and manga for a scene that shows more the innocence of love, they clearly did not care as much here and went to something leaning more towards Game of Thrones, like the episode title said, there are dreams, and then there is reality. I don't mind at all that we have 3 sources for this scene, tackling it a bit differently, which is why I keep saying, people that read the LN, the manga and watch the anime, get the most out of it in the end. |
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borderliner said: LordSozin said: This season was full of surface level writing... Care to provide an example or two (should be easy for you) Sure, there's a moment in which Paul outright lashed his anger on Rudues. Blaming him for not being trying to find his mother and family, yet himself was surrounded with incompetent people and Paul is himself isn't any better than Rudeus. The theme of growth and change for the better was never present in the second part as a whole. |
| Well I was not expecting a single thing that happened in that episode... |
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| well it was quite the bleak episode filled with some turns of events i didn't expect sadly the one thing i did expect still happened due to people just straight up saying it happens on this forum but it at least allowed me to not be bothered nearly as much because i knew it was gonna be a thing as gross as it was i'd give the show more flak if they didn't do it at least tastefully if only we werent at this point where i'm still like man this Rudues dude fucking blows so any form of emotional scenes regarding him i just don't care compared to the people around him. it seems like we will see Eris perspective soon |
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GGcc78 said: animejas said: I really hope we get the Eris POV and focus on those details. There's just so much to unpack with her and how she's evolved as a person that not dedicating a good chunk of next episode to her side of the story would be such a let down.On top of those struggles, she even saw the person she loved dearly and the person who was closest to her for 6+ years from when she was a kid to being an adult, nearly die in front of her very eyes, and she couldn't do a damn thing after Orsted flung her away without her getting to damage him whatsoever. That's why she was very close on her trip with Rudeus while travelling back home, whether its hugging him tightly on the horse ride or sleeping next to him while sharing the blanket since she didn't want to be far away from him. Oh, and the way they handled this episode was absolutely masterful. While many fans were looking forward last episode, THIS was the one I was looking forward to the most. Not so much because of the smexy time, but the thing Mushoku Tensei does far better than anything else is character drama. These chapters of the LN (and now the anime) shows what this story is capable of when the plot threads are given time grow, breathe, and develop. I'm 97% sure we are getting that POV next episode and not leaving it for a future season to handle that instead. There are only a couple real major scenes to be adapted in the next episode including that POV so there should be enough time to get through the finale without many issues. |
| It was a great episode overall, especially the first scene. |
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| It's not often an episode leaves me completely speechless. Can't even find the right words to express how good this episode was. |
| Watashi wa a victim of cyberbullying. Everyday someone online calls me a "weeb" desu. Watashi won't stand for this. 26 percent of bullying victims are chosen due to their race or religion desu. I may look like a basic white boy, but deep down I am Nihongo desu. Watashi religion is anime. Anata wa bullying me because of my race and religion desu ka? Disgusting desu. Anata should be ashamed of yourself, racist pig. A baka gaijin like anata is probably jealous of my race and culture, cause Nippon is more sugoi than your shitty country desu. Watashi pity anata. You'll never be Nihongo like watashi. Educate yourself on nani a "weeb" is. |
| Oh well, what a ride this was. Definitely didn't expect anything of what happened, Ruijerd leaving and Eris decides to "grow up?" and leave the next day? lmao She had an egoist attitude, Rudeus had been through a lot too and now she abandoned him, after all this time. I mean when that happened i was like "so that's how he will find Sylphiette and the other girls, but it's still sad... I guess the next time that we see Eris will be in a pretty distant future. One of the saddest yet greatest episodes, some of the characters' relationships peaked in this episode! Never would i have thought that i would see Eris voluntarily propose to have sex with Rudeus lmao What a journey man! Manaarii_0 said: KorhalChild said: I think it'll be a mix of Eris's POV, Roxy's POV, and a small teaser for the next part of Rudeus's life I really hope so they do that. That would be such a great idea, and i guess give us an episode where Rudeus isn't the focus. Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
anime-primeDec 12, 2021 6:39 PM
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| Oh my god the theme of loss for Rudy is so strong on this one Not only does he finally realize how badly destroyed his hometown got, Ruijerd finally bidding his farewell to the group but Eris fleeing after a one night stand with him as a coping mechanism against the arranged marriage haha depression goes brrr |
| Fantastic episode, lots of emotional moments and fitting music combined with flashback scenes that didn't drag on for too long. Can't wait to see a bunch of people complain about that scene at the end lol DarkDooM2 said: The only point where Studio Bind really fucked up is the crying scene at the end, they should've made that more nuanced in my opinion. It's such a silly thing to call fuck-up on, but I completely agree. Rudeus crying at the very last shot was a bit goofy. |
It's only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. |
Maybe he felt bad that he had to rely on Rudy to make any progress in his life, after all he went through hundreds of years trying not to be hated yet he realized he had been doing it wrong and now that Rudy shown him the paths. In other events I'm sure Eris had reasons, but man is she bad at writing letters making it feel like a one night stand. Mah boi Rudeus is gonna be broken after this if she doesn't come back. |
FocusIssues said: animejas said: I'm 97% sure we are getting that POV next episode and not leaving it for a future season to handle that instead. There are only a couple real major scenes to be adapted in the next episode including that POV so there should be enough time to get through the finale without many issues. While doing this would stop the guessing as to Eris's motives, I think it would be inconsistent with the director's show-don't-tell focus so my guess is that there will be a slight change to the dialogue in the LN to convey the same idea. Maybe, but at the same time, I'm not sure how else the time would be filled up. I'll get a better idea on that soon anyway so I'll see how Bind chooses to execute the finale. They've outdone my expectations with the big scenes this cour so I can trust them to do whatever works with the series for the long run. |
| Really hope they adapt volume 7 for season 2, now with this episode Rudy is truly alone and volume 7 did an absolute incredible job for character growth. |
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FocusIssues said: It wouldn't be inconsistent, they have given Paul a POV before so you can understand his position, that method of writing has been used but not always.animejas said: I'm 97% sure we are getting that POV next episode and not leaving it for a future season to handle that instead. There are only a couple real major scenes to be adapted in the next episode including that POV so there should be enough time to get through the finale without many issues. While doing this would stop the guessing as to Eris's motives, I think it would be inconsistent with the director's show-don't-tell focus so my guess is that there will be a slight change to the dialogue in the LN to convey the same idea. |
Jokuc said: idk man I think it was done pretty well, he hasn't shed a single tear almost this entire time from his departure with Rujierd, finding his entire home destroyed, finding out past acquaintances such as philip are dead and after what happened with eris he just broke.Fantastic episode, lots of emotional moments and fitting music combined with flashback scenes that didn't drag on for too long. Can't wait to see a bunch of people complain about that scene at the end lol DarkDooM2 said: The only point where Studio Bind really fucked up is the crying scene at the end, they should've made that more nuanced in my opinion. It's such a silly thing to call fuck-up on, but I completely agree. Rudeus crying at the very last shot was a bit goofy. I personally can't see any better way to portray his mindset other than him completely crying like a lost child because at this point, for the first time in the story, he is truly alone and most certainly lost with no one to guide him going forward. Brilliantly done imo and can't wait for volume 7 in season 2 |
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Cneq said: idk man I think it was done pretty well, he hasn't shed a single tear almost this entire time from his departure with Rujierd, finding his entire home destroyed, finding out past acquaintances such as philip are dead and after what happened with eris he just broke. I personally can't see any better way to portray his mindset other than him completely crying like a lost child because at this point, for the first time in the story, he is truly alone and most certainly lost with no one to guide him going forward. Him crying isn't what I thought was weird, I just think the way it sounded paired with us being unable to see his facial expressions just made it sound fake for me. |
It's only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. |
LordSozin said: Sure, there's a moment in which Paul outright lashed his anger on Rudues. Blaming him for not being trying to find his mother and family, yet himself was surrounded with incompetent people and Paul is himself isn't any better than Rudeus. The theme of growth and change for the better was never present in the second part as a whole. Sorry to interrupt, but go watch again the resolution between Paul and Rudeous, growth has been a constant, that was very apparent there. This episode you see all the payoff Ruijerd has with his development aswell, he is even explicit about it. And Eris is also growing up, that face up with Orsted scarred her deeply, just don't expect to see it all on one season, this is a long story to tell, where you feel that boost its characters, even minors ones, and the world around keep changing and aging. Saying there is no development at all on this part is being absurd, just because you are in the minority and don't like it, you are making those assumptions. Look closer and you will see, just don't expect dramatic changes from one point to the other, things take time, and the series is one that respects its viewer commitment to it. Pale_Grey said: Im like a proud father watching his kid get the winning touchdown. Rudy finally clapped Eris' cheeks My man, if you only knew what is in store for the future... Just a tiny tease: |
PlaycoolDec 12, 2021 7:37 PM
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| I did not expect that at all... When Ruijerd left and Ghislaine showed up I was thinking that they will still have team of 3 people. Maybe it is time for Sylphiette ? |
| (づ￣ ³￣)づ ちゅっ ちゅっ キス (´｡✪ω✪｡｀) I hate it when anime/manga that I enjoyed ends, especially when there could be much longer plot and when I love main heroine :P I wish I had magic glasses that let me see real world in anime colors ;) |
| Damn... Not only Ruijerd but Eris too :( It's a bit sad seeing Rudy all alone and it does make me wonder how things are going to conclude in the final episode I also liked the way the first scene was done |
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| What he give: 😏 What he recieve: Mental Depression T_T Damn, the series getting better and better. Too bad no more Dead End team. Ruijerd leaving and Eris left Rudy alone. |
RielHinami14Dec 12, 2021 8:30 PM
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| This show keeps only getting better with each new episode. Well Ending was kinda unexpected but I am pretty excited for next episode Bgm was also very powerful in this episode but the thing that hurt me most was end of journey with ruijerd. |
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| Disappointed in Rudeus this episode. I think he should have showed restraint; I do not think giving into his impulses at that moment was the right call. |
| The Orsted matter wasn't exactly the best but this episode handled the reconciliation greatly. We see that Eris is now mentally scarred and has become insensitive to death; In response the usual mature and quiet Rudeus is shocked. For a second they changed place in terms of behavioral tendencies. The ending of the episode was less graphic than the manga but still held purpose. |
RielHinami14 said: What he give: 😏 What he recieve: Mental Depression T_T Damn, the series getting better and better. Too bad no more Dead End team. Ruijerd leaving and Eris left Rudy alone. Leaves his old depressed life just to get round 2 at the end of this season. Oh boy this is gonna hit him hard |
AestheticGamer said: She made the decision to get pregnant with Rudues, and cut her hair probably both to look different, but also because no matter how you spin it or whatever route she chose then, this was a closing chapter on one chapter of her life and the start of a new one. It's very clear she realized that no matter what was about to happen, the life she had been living up until now was about to completely change. Still, this is one of the worst tropes. |
| Yay, pedo dream fulfilled... though being honest, having Eris as the one instigating her "13yo" cousin to have sex sure was quite the move. Anyways, still kinda funny how they tried to portray the whole deed as something heartfelt and romantic but whatever. Rudeus is part of the adult society now. Another average episode. I found the whole bedroom sequence awkward as hell ("I want your kittens, nya~"?) but leaving that aside, I'm actually more salty about the fact that Ruijerd and Ghislaine never got to meet. And now they are both gone... fuck. |
| Its here the homecoming episode and parting with Ruijerd because, hes mission is fullfiled and its sad to part way with Ruijerd. Even Rudeus and Eris are sad by it. Then they meet Ghislaine that tells them the bad news which shocked Rudeus and Eris. The second half is the bed scene of Rudeus and Eris which is their promise when they are 15yrs old. But Eris initiate the deed and able to switch on Rudeus which is showed by wine and glass imaginery. Then the last scene which Eris with CHAD energy left Rudeus |
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merlin2v said: Opticflash said: Disappointed in Rudeus this episode. I think he should have showed restraint; I do not think giving into his impulses at that moment was the right call. NGL, I was debating on agreeing with this opinion or not. The grey area was the fact about the concubine and a good way to reject such a proposal is to say you have already been taken. I am glad he showed a decent bit of restraint. Honestly though, how would you say no in such a situation without hurting her more? The only thing I can think of is to say "let's wait a day for you to think about it" but there is still risk involved and saying even that could backfire. In the end it's a bit of a lose lose situation. Exactly. There are multiple ways we can look at the situation, which is why the writing is so good! |
| fuck Eris, all my homies hate Eris this is the worst betrayal I've felt in anime in a long time |
| Absolute degen pedo episode. 1/10 |
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