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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- It seems that Fena and Yukimaru aren't the only ones who've suffered the same trauma, even Abel himself has memories of Fena's mother purged in fear and tremor. Colonel Abel's backstory of how he met Helena amidst his own family that isn't very well off, the once supposed prince that could not be king, with the elegant girl herself doused in flowers. To imagine her eloping is the least of the suspicions, but it happened while boring the king's child, and she paid the price by being publicly executed, not before giving Abel the message to go to Eden should he meet Fena. A moment of recluse for Fena and Yukimaru, and with the secret song "Vice Versa" (Latin for "The other way around") of Fena's, that's the key to reach Eden, apart from the cave that tells them of the coordinates to reach Eden (or rather, Eden beckoning out to Fena). It's all in the lyrics, the subliminal message hidden quite well. It's time to get ready for the final quarter stretch to reach Eden, this would be one hell of a final journey. To think that Abel's obsession with Fena's mother goes THIS deep, it's truly painful. And to think of back-to-back episodes where tears are continously shed, man, this story is truly heartbreaking. |
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| First part: speedrun of Abel's backstory. Apparently Fena's mother was completely devoted to this magical prophecy/destiny crap and was willing to get knocked up by a king to make this "Pucelle" of legend. Second part: I don't know how they figured out all that vice versa and clock orientation trickery on the spot without writing anything down on a piece of paper. Feels a bit rushed overall |
| So my theory of a love triangle from last week was right. I feel really bad for Abel, that pain is a lot to deal with. Episode 9 and it seems like the story is really just getting going now that we have some potential coordinates for Eden. No way this doesn’t get a second season. |
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| That was quite the quick on spot deduction for vice versa. I wouldn't have expected the numbers to also be mirrored. Also we get to see Abel's backstory and how Helena died due to... why did she have to die again? |
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| Why does this suddenly feels rushed? We got Abel's backstory in this episode and got to know the reason for his actions. The part with coordinates and all to Eden was quite an interesting one. I've many questions but for now I'll wait to see if they'll get answered later on or not? I like this show very much and I do hope that this gets another season after this one. It cannot be the end of their journey at Eden once they reach there. |
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| Abel's past, damn. But before I feel bad for him I wonder if he's the one that destroyed the ship Fena was on as a kid and why he did it. Now Yukimaru and Fena know where Eden is and Abel will be on their tail. |
| Not a fan of the writing tbh. Don't think that much has really happened in 9 episodes. Hard to ignore while watching. |
| So after the Abel backstory,what we go. Fena is a princess, and have albinism, probably. Jeanne gone to England. Im interested of how Franz succesfully runned away with the baby Fena. Is still royalty after all. For sake of plot Abel will know the location telepathically. Cody is the true villain? |
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| Damn so Fena's mom died just like Joan of Arc, that's probably why she was mentioned in episode 4. I can kinda see why Abel is obsessed with Fena after witnessing that brutal death. Well the anime is entering its final 3 episodes so I expect many things to happen in the next episode cause those last 2 have been really chill and mostly served to advance the plot and develop the characters. |
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| So am I the only one who was hoping for Fena to be Abel's love child rather than ht NTR King? Also the way they played with history here like Helena being Jeanne-type and Abel Bluefield aka the obsessive Gilles de Reis(Bluebird) is treading on thin lines. Let's see where this takes us. |
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| ???2!#!$!$!!$($+$ SO..? ABEL AND FENA ARE STEP SIBLINGS..? with fena's mother being abel's lover what the fuckk😭😭 ..but anyways! at least the gang is together again and we know where we're headed :D |
| Perfect quality , and awesome as always.. looking forward to episode 10 but I need a recap of main plot points |
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| Almost felt like Abel's back story had too much shown at once but I assume that was to quickly get audiences to warm up to him more after him shooting Yukimaru and seeming to only be possessive of Fena from obsession because she looked like his love which really turned out to be a broken heart trying to bring back his love which is more understandable for how he acts since anyone would become like that after such tragedy. At least this episode cleared up that Fena and Helena probably aren't the same person which almost seemed hinted at before but was me reading too much into it. |
| oh the plot thickens...So helena did love abel. Their past from abel's pov was sad but i would love to know what she really felt during this whole ordeal. The location decoding was too fast and idk it wasnt convincing at all. I just couldnt wrap my mind around it. Too much information in a single episode. The team is back together and ready for a new journey...cant wait to see 'eden' |
| Cody seems to know something and he is probably the real mastermind. btw, The coordination 63°00'00.0"N 14°00'00.0"W is located in the North Atlantic Ocean between the Faroe Islands and Iceland. |
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| I might have understood this incorrectly, but is Abel Fena's brother? Or is the kind not related to him? Like I don't get this detail. Other than that, Abel's backstory isn't bad. He lives with the illusion that Helena is alive somewhere even though he saw her burn with his own eyes. It'd be interesting to see what Eden is because I'm not even sure it's a place. The episode was OK. I liked previous episodes a lot more. I really wonder how they plan on wrapping things up in just 3 episodes. I hope it doesn't get rushed. |
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| damn how old is Abel then right now? lol he should have been an grandpa age already Helena said the only one that she truly love is Abel though so what a tragic romance between them now Fena and the group knows the coordinates of Eden lets find out whats inside it |
| Really good episode! I also really liked Abel's backstory, really fucked up though. So Fena and Abel are like step-siblings probably. Abel is trying to get to Eden through Fena, so he can be with Helena. Those were some pretty big brain thinking right there with the song and coordinates. This definitely felt like the penultimate episode, onwards to the climax we go. Looking forward to the next episodes. |
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| So apparently Abel is more likely a sibling than a parent, but we will see. There is a big difference between those two character dynamics. Also, why was Helena's hair cut? Was it done by herself or by the prison? I get the symbolism between Fena and her mother, but just cutting a girl's hair doesn't make her a strong character. Either way, the insert OST track in the flashback scene was gorgeous. I can't wait for that entire Yuki Kajiura song to be available. The entire puzzle solving happened a little too conveniently and quickly to be believable, but it could have been a lot worse. We are reaching the final stage of this season, so hopefully they can stick the landing. |
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| bit rushed but decent |
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| Ah, Abel's backstory was pretty sad. I honestly see how he developed a possessive nature. The coordinates to Eden were hidden in Fena's secret song. The whole sequence of detective work to solve the coordinates felt a bit impromptu and rushed. Well, Eden is the way to go! |
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| I really think this show would have benefited from being 24 episodes. It would have felt more of an expansive adventure. It would also mean they would not have needed the info dump this episode. Lots to take in this week as we rush towards the end and still the mystery of who Fena really is. |
| The final part of ''Eden'' is close. They unraveled the mystery behind it and this is going to end pretty soon. The pacing was pretty good and Albes' backstory was done well. I understand know why he has such a kink on Helena lol. |
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| What I'm curious is why Abel said he is a prince, but he can't ever be a king? Why Helena agreed to have the king's baby just because "La Pucelle", just to run away from the king later on? It almost felt like Helena just had Fena because of that reason... Also, the man we saw with Helena when she was younger and pregnant looked a LOT OF like Yukihisa Sanada when younger...(Or, was it, Franz?) Anyway, why Franz kept lying to Fena she is Houtman when she apparently isn't? Unless I got something wrong? But I thought the 'king' was Albel's father? Also, Helena said before she was executed she would go to 'Eden'... Erm, yet all characters are talking about Eden like it was someplace? But the implications clearly hint Eden is (like in most cases) place after death, so...does that mean for Fena and others to get Eden they've to die? Or, is Eden some spiritual world? This is highly concerning... |
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PecoTheHero said: nothing has happened? What??Not a fan of the writing tbh. Don't think that much has really happened in 9 episodes. Hard to ignore while watching. |
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SparkleDuck said: PecoTheHero said: nothing has happened? What??Not a fan of the writing tbh. Don't think that much has really happened in 9 episodes. Hard to ignore while watching. Yes I think Episode 8 is a perfect example of this. I don't think it's been all that engaging or interesting besides a few episodes or moments and even then they've been 'ok/pretty good'. |
| The animation and artistic sense of the Abel backstory was glorious, it was wonderful to see how they provided such dreamy landscape and it used quite well his vision integrated with the environment, and finally the music created just some captivating experience. I don't really like how they solved the "mystery", it felt forced as fuck, like in minutes we got from Fena singing a song , to the guy remembering the lyrics, to him bringing up they are non sense (Which clearly are not, but wil give him the benefit of doubt), to them solving the puzzle, to them resolving the puzzle and bringing the answer. Seems kind of rushed, but whatevs |
| I think Fena writing down the location number and cardinal points will become a huge mistake later on, for the enemies to find out. Not sure how Abel and this red haired Woman would intervene or find out about where Eden would be. |
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| a code breaking/deciphering episode huh...not bad but i got all sleepy... 3/5. |
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| damnn , fena moms so pretty and beautiful !! but sadly she must die like that !! |
| I've seen Indiana Jones and Uncharted, I know how this song and dance goes. Eden's gonna be cursed as f*ck! This ep was ART, so beautiful... |
| Now I feel bad for Abel. He had some traumatic past... To think your love interest had a child with your father because of some La Pucelle, then seeing her burn to death in front of your eyes...that's messed up. Now Abel having a twisted personality is understandable. Now it makes me wonder if Abel is somehow disgusted of Fena because of the King or did Abel attack Hope 10 years ago because Helena eloped with Franz even though she said she loved him. Abel is actually Fena's brother. No wonder they looked similar. But after some thought, even Helena and Abel looks similar. By any chance, is the past more messed up than it already is... I'm kinda confused about this Eden. The way Helena said it, considering what happened to her it makes it look like Eden is a place of afterlife. |
deg said: damn how old is Abel then right now? lol he should have been an grandpa age already Helena said the only one that she truly love is Abel though so what a tragic romance between them now Fena and the group knows the coordinates of Eden lets find out whats inside it He should be in mid to late 30s I think. He is around same age as Helena who most probably gave birth to Fena in her early 20s or late teens. Fena is now 15-16 years old or so. |
| Damn even if I had all the clues in front of me I wouldn't have pieced all of that together but nonetheless it was a great episode. |
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| And there we go. Another part checked. |
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Tsarko said: deg said: damn how old is Abel then right now? lol he should have been an grandpa age already Helena said the only one that she truly love is Abel though so what a tragic romance between them now Fena and the group knows the coordinates of Eden lets find out whats inside it He should be in mid to late 30s I think. He is around same age as Helena who most probably gave birth to Fena in her early 20s or late teens. Fena is now 15-16 years old or so. oh ok im bad at math so thanks for that |
| they sure figured out everything quickly wow math works wonders or whatever the hell :O |
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| Fena might be Abel's daughter?! What a plottwist! Why did the burn Helena? I'm pretty sure that's not how they punished unfaithful wives in England. Plus her marrying the king meant that she was nobility - no freaking way she would get punished with a death sentence. Anyway, the episode was pretty - great colour and music use. |
| Abel's story was great. He was interesting character before that, but it adds a nice layer to his personality. I love antagonists like him. That song tho... It feels like they jumped to conclusions, and a lot. It obviously will work for story reasons, but it's way too random for me. |
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