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| I've fully accepted that you aren't supposed to try to understand this anime, just feel it. The anime doesn't go into specifics or details. It has ideas, symbolism, messages and it tries to convey just that through the little stories, dialogue, and visuals. Like this episode was about regrets and how to move forward, but there was so much in the episode that went unexplained. However, you are not really supposed to focus on that I guess. Tho I am still wondering if there's a chance that Kodama and the others didn't actually die because it was established that drifters can't die. That aside, I can see point of this episode; the parallels between Yamabiko and Nagara. It's sort of like a teaching. |
| so... to sumarize, yamabiko wished to be a pet for kodama and she with her godly powers granted his wish by turning him into a dog, right? Also, the ending music gave me chills, this episode went full on atmosphere. |
| Somehow, this anime is delivering on how good I expected it to be while going in directions I didn’t expect it to go. Might be my favorite episode so far. Most of these episodes can stand alone as short films in a way with their own contained themes, while keeping an overarching narrative going throughout. It has arguably retaken the lead for AOTS, and if it keeps it up it may end as a classic. |
| So, Yamabiko has the same powers as Nagara? The world building feels so complex. I can't think of a lot of stories where the world itself is a mystery. It's fun, so far. I hope everything comes together to form a satisfying conclusion at the end. Feeling bad for the girl! Guess there is a guy who wants to kill god. It was interesting how their clocks stopped matching. Time in this anime is so messed up! |
| wow, such a dark episode. I loved it, yamabiko is such a deep character, and his relation to that "megami" was so profound he chose to serve her and their purpose his entire life. he and Rajdhani are my favorite characters from this show. hope they don't blew this up till the end cuz im really loving this anime |
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| it was quite a deep episode. the background of yamabiko is quite sad tbh. overall a great episode. |
 "Many people die with their music still in them. Too often it is because they are always getting ready to live. Before they know it, time runs out."  |
| This episode didnt really click on me. The concepts are fairly relatable. The usage of regret by multiple standpoints while also developing the state of mind of the side character through the plague, and the concept of breaking the shell of conform in order to being able to really share and be proactive instead of sucking off the others, like it is an interesting reflection but that have been done already with the realization of Nagara. The way it was organized felt like a chore to watch too. I don't feel that the plain soothing and eerie atmostphere helped to deliver the message in an interesting way. The downward spiral towards the realization of Yamabiko could have used a more powerful presentation, honestly. I liked the art and the OST in this episode though, just that both of them doesn't really cooperate into making this enticing to watch, doesnt mix |
| it was amazing, got chills all over my body with the ending, this ep have a lot of interpretations and metaphors |
| It seems Mizuki has a tendency to be attracted by sad persons. It was Nagara at first and Yamabiko this time. Incidentally, kodama means an echo and yamabiko means an echo reflected by mountains. Kodama was able to control everything and people called the ability 'M'. What M stands for wasn't told. Mighty? Master? I don't know. The infected people including Kodama turned into minerals that were similar to the dark red stone-like supernatural relic appeared in episode 6. And according to the official Twitter account, it was labeled "supernatural relic M". Oh, dog God. It is horrifying but there is a possibility that other supernatural relics also might have been humans once. Kodama said she wanted to save everyone. She said her affection captured and killed the bird. Also her affection captured Yamabiko and War and this caused her classmates' deaths including hers. It was an unrelieved tragedy and left a bad aftertaste. At the end of the episode, it was explained that the speed of passing time is different in each world. This would be a reference for future development. The subtitle of ep.8 might be derived from "The laughing man" by Salinger. And the subtitle of ep.9 literally means "This salmon rice in tea has no salmon". This seems a some kind of joke and very hard to guess the origin. But it also might be derived from "This sandwich has no mayonnaise" by Salinger. |
kuroneko99Sep 4, 2021 6:46 AM
| Alright, its about Tsuda, the dog. How he became a dog, what his power, his backstory, and, well, the disturbing matter around his 5000 years past before meeting Nagara and Nozomi, his other light to hold. Oh shit, dude, why the world brought such a disturbing rule, turning your mental wounds into that tumor crystallises-like disaster, via the dog unrealize power. Ofc Yamabiko haunted with the regret so much about that, until the present day its hallucinated more in-between. Come to think of the light he talk about, and how he finally be able to step forward from the disgusting world before. But unfortunately ended up at the same different 'kono sekai' when Nagara and the other lived. My wild mind actually burst to make the assumption that there's no chance at all that they will be able to escape from those 'kono sekai', or whatever it was. However, it can also be intrepreted to one step closer move to solve all the mystery over those 'kono sekai', reach the light, and finally found a way to escape from that bizarre place. Whatever it means, i believe that War guy that want to kill the god might be met with themself again later. Idk the actual role he get when the time has come. Kind enough, or keep the evil shit goin on. Lets see next.... |
 Hide and seek is the best offline games on this fatamorgana-called-world-thing. Please comment nicely. I am newbie here. I'm level  on mal-badges. View my badges  |
| uwa.. what an episode. slightly disturbing and a bit.. ?dont even have a word to disturb it but Woah. cant believe a story of a 5000 year old talking dog would be so.... ?#!$(#+ bgm helped the mood a bunch too and of course tsuda kenjirou's voice wrapped it up perfectly ah also is the war guy the same bat person that nagara met in the prison tower?? they felt a bit similar to me |
| What an episode, it felt so mystical, creepy and surreal. Yamabiko definitely has similarities with Nagara, so that backstory of Yamabiko should be a lesson for him so he doesn't end up on the same path. I like that they used a different ED just to really drive home how surreal this episode was. |
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| The directing and sound design for this episode was phenomenal. The atmosphere created by those along with the unnerving storytelling of Yamabiko's past was some of the most intense and gripping I've seen this year. Very mystical episode with a slightly disturbing feel to it. Felt like a Mushishi episode with how the sound design carries the atmosphere and tone of the episode massively, with some of the SHAFT-like imagery to go along with it at times. |
| Every episode feels like an hour long and I checked the total duration like 3 times while watching it. These guys are just trying to make things unnecessarily complex. Also some of the powers these characters have are overdone. The timeline makes no sense either, and how come these old drifters have such a long lifespan, the dog literally said 5000 years ago. |
JudgeDeadd said: Sorry, my bad, I almost forgot about that.Maou_heika said: The timeline makes no sense either, and how come these old drifters have such a long lifespan, the dog literally said 5000 years ago. Literally the first episode showed that they do not change or age in this world. |
| The fact that there is a character named "War" is certainly interesting. Maybe we'll see the other three horsemen in later episodes, since this series loves using 'deep' things as inspiration. |
  "Truth is always a cruel thing." |
| Pretty different episode from the previous ones. Hands up for kodoma to try to do everything by herself. A storytelling from Yamabiko from 5000 years ago. A really disturbing one. He puts a lot of faith in her, but it was wrong for her to help that War guy. Everything went in the wrong direction after that. |
   “You yourself have to change first, or nothing will change for you!” ' |
MuZe- said: I've fully accepted that you aren't supposed to try to understand this anime, just feel it. The anime doesn't go into specifics or details. It has ideas, symbolism, messages and it tries to convey just that through the little stories, dialogue, and visuals. I think this way too, after 8 episodes I can't grasp anything that resembles a holistic plot anymore. |
| It was being a somewhat interesting episode until the second half. Then it all went full nonsense with "War" dude appearing and Yamabiko's character being revealed as the one who screwed his and Kodama's world. Guess the moral of the story here is: "Don't simp too much. When your girl asks for your opinion, don't say she's always right and give her a proper answer." Now on the good side, I got an entire episode narrated by Tsuda Kenjirou ♥ |
| This anime definetly doesn't follow the typical plot continuity in other anime, the writing is unorthodox, but that doesn't make it inherently bad, in fact I think the freedom the creators took allows them to make something much more impactful. |
| This was pretty creepy but I do like how it was directed and how different this felt from a lot of the previous episodes The majority of the episode was screenshot worthy and it looked better than ever in my opinion. (not that it ever looked bad cause it's always been good) but wow. The soundtracks were also a cherry on top. That removal of the opening was also a smart choice in my opinion to add to the creepiness. Top 2 episode of the series for me |
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| Even for this series this episode stands out on a visual storytelling front, all thanks to Keiichirou Saito's direction. Goddamn give him a series to direct next Madhouse. |
ShibitoMatuzaka said: Ever since Yamabiko's character materialized in the anime, it's been really hard to follow what he says. He actually been there since the second episode, if only for a few frames. |
・| Here is some speculations. Kodama said "You are too dependent on me" to the blue bird (and Yamabiko's future self!?). This corresponds to Nozomi's words in episode 2: "Both Mizuho and this world are too dependent." After a while, Kodama buried the dead blue bird with the berries that the bird brought to her. Kodama died and Yamabiko continued to lie down there in the world that embodied his wish. A little tree grew there from the berry and it would have become the big tree burning with blue fire in episode 2. These blue attribution would symbolize illusory happiness described by Maeterlinck or Novalis. Therefore the tree that is a symbol of false happiness continued to burn. Also the blue fire burnt false happiness/things the students earned without their own efforts. Then when Yamabiko dashed out the tree in episode 5, the blue fire on the tree died down. --- When Yamabiko tried to make a promise with Kodama linking his little finger to hers, he noticed that his hand had become a paw of a dog. He hadn't realized that he became a dog until this moment. |
kuroneko99Sep 6, 2021 8:02 AM
| This episode was so good |
error5000 said: so... to sumarize, yamabiko wished to be a pet for kodama and she with her godly powers granted his wish by turning him into a dog, right? Also, the ending music gave me chills, this episode went full on atmosphere. No, his godlike powers made him a dog and a world for her to live in. |
| This show really loves its sad sacks with their manic pixie girlfriends, doesn't it?mAs usual, the creepiness of the girl and her society that nobody can leave was completely lost on the creators of the show. And I have no idea what the hell they were even trying to get at with War being the plague on an isolated society. An isolated society in a world created by him, that people then were already in? Or the people too were also created by him? Are we full Wind Fishing this? Also, I'm not sure it's the best approach to sub out one angsty sad sack for another one. I still couldn't tell you with 100% certainty why he's even a dog. Because he sees himself as one? Because he wanted to be one? But different from his wanting to save that one girl (and nobody else) in the world that he created, but then they arrived in and set up a society before he did? Uh… huh. |
| Don't know if anyone else noticed this but This episodes OST gave hyper light drifter vibes. |
Reelens said: RayReynolds said: This show really loves its sad sacks with their manic pixie girlfriends, doesn't it?mAs usual, the creepiness of the girl and her society that nobody can leave was completely lost on the creators of the show. And I have no idea what the hell they were even trying to get at with War being the plague on an isolated society. An isolated society in a world created by him, that people then were already in? Or the people too were also created by him? Are we full Wind Fishing this? Also, I'm not sure it's the best approach to sub out one angsty sad sack for another one. I still couldn't tell you with 100% certainty why he's even a dog. Because he sees himself as one? Because he wanted to be one? But different from his wanting to save that one girl (and nobody else) in the world that he created, but then they arrived in and set up a society before he did? Uh… huh. You seem to be recounting parts of the episode as if they're objectionable... but they aren't. Which subtitled version did you watch, if you know? I'd actually like to check a couple different ones and see if maybe there's a sub problem for this show. I imagine it must be difficult to subtitle it if you don't understand what's going on, and if the person making the subtitles is confused the audience will be doubly so. I don't need subtitles |
| I'm not the biggest fan of this anime, but I found this particular episode to be fascinating and engrossing throughout. One question I had, as RayReynolds already brought up - if Yamabiko made the world, how were all the people there before he even arrived? |
| Easily my fav episode so far. Awesome. 5/5. |
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| Honestly? I find it pretty impressive how, prompted to talk about the day he became a dog, Yamabiko gives an episode-long comprehensive storyline about everything except why he became a dog! :applause: Let it be known I read a comment attached to this episode that simply read, "What the dog doin?" and I will henceforth use this as a complete description of my opinions on the character. Also, "Ok, Yamabi, play dead!" "You do realize I was originally a human person, right?" 40 seconds later: "Yama, tell us a funny story!" "DOgS dOn'T tEll fUnNy StOrIeS" |
This discussion no longer fresh but today i stumbled on a photograph from a real life staircase that surely inspired the one in this episode. It´s called "Symphonic Sculpture" by Gabriel Loire - in The Hakone Open Air Museum. |
| Ok that was some really deep stuff |
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