| hi all, not sure if this is the right place but meh. anyway. Ive noticed over the past few days, mainly in blogs but also on profiles and such, that a lot of people are talking about suicide and self harm. Just to for those people: your not alone. Talk to someone, anyone. Your parents, friends, a teacher. Talk to me if that helps. just talk to someone. Don't suffer in silence. Please. |
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Aeiou said: Though it doesn't matter if people suicide, everybody dies in the end. Other people affected? They'll eventually die too and so will mankind and eventually the universe. Good night. while that is true, surely you value your life more than to merely reduce it to that? life is worth living. |
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triseke said: Aeiou said: Though it doesn't matter if people suicide, everybody dies in the end. Other people affected? They'll eventually die too and so will mankind and eventually the universe. Good night. while that is true, surely you value your life more than to merely reduce it to that? life is worth living. I do but knowledge and emotions are two very different things or else we'd all be monkeys running around going "WANT TO LIV." Wanting to live doesn't mean you can't accept that life is worthless. For example, I enjoyed watching Digimon the First Movie and at the same time, knew how terrible it was. Mod edit: Double post merged. |
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| Most people who talk about suicide and going ahead with it, are the ones who mainly don't go though with their plan, it's the ones who keep it all in who normally go ahead with suicide, people post suicidal thoughts on their blogs or whatever as an attention cry. |
triseke said: anyway. Ive noticed over the past few days, mainly in blogs but also on profiles and such, that a lot of people are talking about suicide and self harm. It's a modern trend, unfortunately. People think it's cool and makes them unique and stuff. The other unfortunate thing is that considerate people like yourself are often unappreciated. :/ |
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seishi-sama said: triseke said: anyway. Ive noticed over the past few days, mainly in blogs but also on profiles and such, that a lot of people are talking about suicide and self harm. It's a modern trend, unfortunately. People think it's cool and makes them unique and stuff. The other unfortunate thing is that considerate people like yourself are often unappreciated. :/ thanks. I know some of it is attention seeking and trying to be "unique". I would hate for someone who is actually experiencing this to feel totally isolated. |
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| I remember there being a thread about suicide before, with a lot of discussion involving khorven. I try not to be judgmental with people I don't know, because there is no way I can know of all their circumstances. Any ideas I can have about strangers talking about suicide are purely prejudiced, and talking to them naively about it might worsen the issue (i.e. I can't know if it's a "modern trend" or genuine depression, or for fun, or posted by somebody seriously considering doing a school shooting. Because, you know, most of those people tend to hang out on forums and tell people about it before they go through it...) All I can talk about is my personal views on human life. I don't think anyone should commit suicide, because it's a self destructive process (obviously) With very few exceptions, there can always be a tomorrow. I know this sounds very idealistic, but it's not. It's facing reality - life is by no means pink all the time, but life is what we make of it. If any of you are considering suicide, please don't do it. It's the one mistake you can't correct. |
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DeathHormone said: Most people who talk about suicide and going ahead with it, are the ones who mainly don't go though with their plan, it's the ones who keep it all in who normally go ahead with suicide, people post suicidal thoughts on their blogs or whatever as an attention cry. thats not always true. Sometimes the signs of suicidal behaviour are right in front of people but they just can't see it, or dont take it seriously. Thats why i made this thread. i just want to tell lonely people that they are not alone. |
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| I am only a misanthropist because I am a humanist.:< But never suicidal myself. I enjoy seeing, hearing, touching/tasting, smelling and thinking too much. Even if it's seeing, touching, hearing, tasting, smelling, or thinking something bad or pain, it's better to me than having nothing at all to experience. That being said, I have no irritation with or desire to mock the suicidal. Though, sadly, despite this lack of sadism toward the suicidal, I might be slightly psychopathic. I think I'd rather push my sadness on others than take myself out. And I see suicidal people in society as more of the victims than anything. I'm no moralist, but my mercy is to the picked on, not the bullies. My internet mentality, I'm a "faggot" for siding with the weak instead of indiscriminately hating everyone or doing the cruelest and hating the weak. |
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| Well, on religion standards, if you're Aethist you have the welcoming thought that all you did was make your "non-exsistance" quicker, or if you're Catholic (I believe, it could be something else :\) You have plenty of years to be a tree and watch your mangles corpse hanging from one of your branches after Judgement day while everyone else is running around in paradise....I actually laughed when I read that some where...it's also like if you're burried at sea, it takes 7 more days for Jesus to get to you. Hardcore stuff maaaaan. On a serious note, I personally believe that if they can't get over what ever problem they have and they just want to escape from it by killing themselvs, then let them. It's their choice. I can sympathize that everybody has tough times they go through, but I don't sympatize with them wanting to kill themseves because, as states, Everyone goes through tough times. If everyone else can go through these tough times, some which are probably worse than half the people that have killed, or thought about killing themselves have gone through, and can move on, so can they. If you can't deal with your own small problems in the world and you honestly want to kill yourself because you believe you can't, then fine, more power to you. This is all in my opinion of course. |
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Sayalol said: Well, on religion standards, if you're Aethist you have the welcoming thought that all you did was make your "non-exsistance" quicker, or if you're Catholic (I believe, it could be something else :) You have plenty of years to be a tree and watch your mangles corpse hanging from one of your branches after Judgement day while everyone else is running around in paradise....I actually laughed when I read that some where...it's also like if you're burried at sea, it takes 7 more days for Jesus to get to you. Hardcore stuff maaaaan. On a serious note, I personally believe that if they can't get over what ever problem they have and they just want to escape from it by killing themselvs, then let them. It's their choice. I can sympathize that everybody has tough times they go through, but I don't sympatize with them wanting to kill themseves because, as states, Everyone goes through tough times. If everyone else can go through these tough times, some which are probably worse than half the people that have killed, or thought about killing themselves have gone through, and can move on, so can they. If you can't deal with your own small problems in the world and you honestly want to kill yourself because you believe you can't, then fine, more power to you. This is all in my opinion of course. i believe that no problem cant be overcome with the right therapy or even by talking to people. everyone has the right to succeed with life. Even if that success is just getting up in the morning. |
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Aeiou said: Exactly. The essence of positive existential nihilism.Wanting to live doesn't mean you can't accept that life is worthless. seishi-sama said: And this. It seems to me at least 70-80% of blogs are about emo teenagers expressing their totally unique and misunderstood lives, with suicidal copypasta thrown in for good measure.It's a modern trend, unfortunately. People think it's cool and makes them unique and stuff. The other unfortunate thing is that considerate people like yourself are often unappreciated. :/ georgi said: I believe his main card was the "reverse murder" morality of our societies, that do not allow for people to end their lives. And I agree with him, people who want to die should obviously be allowed to, +1 for euthanasia and all that.I remember there being a thread about suicide before, with a lot of discussion involving khorven. But anyone blogging about emo shit like cutting their wrists and attempting suicide most likely doesn't want to die, they just want the attention. |
triseke said: Sayalol said: Well, on religion standards, if you're Aethist you have the welcoming thought that all you did was make your "non-exsistance" quicker, or if you're Catholic (I believe, it could be something else :) You have plenty of years to be a tree and watch your mangles corpse hanging from one of your branches after Judgement day while everyone else is running around in paradise....I actually laughed when I read that some where...it's also like if you're burried at sea, it takes 7 more days for Jesus to get to you. Hardcore stuff maaaaan. On a serious note, I personally believe that if they can't get over what ever problem they have and they just want to escape from it by killing themselvs, then let them. It's their choice. I can sympathize that everybody has tough times they go through, but I don't sympatize with them wanting to kill themseves because, as states, Everyone goes through tough times. If everyone else can go through these tough times, some which are probably worse than half the people that have killed, or thought about killing themselves have gone through, and can move on, so can they. If you can't deal with your own small problems in the world and you honestly want to kill yourself because you believe you can't, then fine, more power to you. This is all in my opinion of course. i believe that no problem cant be overcome with the right therapy or even by talking to people. everyone has the right to succeed with life. Even if that success is just getting up in the morning. Fist off.. I like you :D your reaching out to people and have a very optimistic attitude. i have some strong views on suicide that i will not post here but you are more than welcome to PM me if you truly want to hear them. However please if your seriously having suicidal thoughts and your to the point of not wanting to continue living, please talk to someone.I will always respond once i see the message. if you are deeply depressed or hear voices telling you to kill yourself or pushing you to go through with it please see a doctor immediately. |
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Sayalol said: Well, on religion standards, if you're Aethist you have the welcoming thought that all you did was make your "non-exsistance" quicker That's the worst case scenario. In hell at least I could enjoy the experience of suffering to some degree. |
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Baman said: Aye. You never hear about the depressed kid who killed himself. You always hear, "But he seemed so happy/normal."But anyone blogging about emo shit like cutting their wrists and attempting suicide most likely doesn't want to die, they just want the attention. |
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Vagabond said: Aye. You never hear about the depressed kid who killed himself. You always hear, "But he seemed so happy/normal." Oh but that's not true at all, the main cause of suicides is depression. But yeah, someone who really wants to kill himself, does so in secret so he cannot be stopped. Everyone who says that if someone wants to commit suicide then they should just do it should reconsider (we're not talking euthanasia here). In most cases, it's like killing yourself over a disease that's curable. Allowing a temporary brain chemistry imbalance or something like that to destroy all the good moments you'd have in your life. Most of those who killed themselves, if there was an afterlife, would regret it. The worst part is that suicide has been turned into a joke. Remember, there was some case recently where someone killed himself 'live', with a webcam in a chat. Everyone was cheering him to do it, I imagine they believed it's an elaborate prank. When after like an hour of his dead body lying there police came in, visible on the cam, their faces must have been so red. But seriously, it ain't funny. So, to all those who put something about commiting suicide in a believable manner, but do it only as a joke and don't really think about it, you're idiots. |
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| As long as you only think of it and do not actually try it, you're still ok. Talk to somebody, even if you seem all alone. Talk to a tree, to a stone, to your dog, anything that will listen. Nobody is ever alone, that's what I learned. Vagabond said: Baman said: Aye. You never hear about the depressed kid who killed himself. You always hear, "But he seemed so happy/normal."But anyone blogging about emo shit like cutting their wrists and attempting suicide most likely doesn't want to die, they just want the attention. And this. I also believe that clinical depression on kids is being badly diagnosed this days. A kid cries goes to a pychiastry and comes back with medicine for depression, poor thing. Damn you all, I had to go through hell and shit without a single drop of medication and I'm here, disturbed but alive and telling you pre-suicidal kids you're all retards for even thinking about quitting the game. "Can't stand it anymore", "everyone would be better without me", "maybe if I die they will aknowledge my existance", oh yeah, I know what that is. And I also know it is possible to solve every problem that exists. So gtfo this thread, get a damn life and beat the crap up of the things that bother you. If you want to talk about your concerns, just do. The internet is not known for being nice, so you may want to do it with a real person. Writing them on the form of shitty poems will not help you, sharing them under the shape of depressed blogs and journals for the friends and fans you do not have will also not help you. The cure for suicide thoughts is living. |
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| At any time, whether someone just MIGHT be talking about, or hinting at it, it can be seriously important to address it. Sure its easy give the quote, "oh tra-la, if someone is talking about it they are unlikely to do it". When you make such a comment (even though it might be statistically true according to psychiatrists and such professionals), especially on an open forum which mainly has people of young teen to early adult age, I think it's a bit irresponsible. Because if even ONE person reading that dismissive phrase who is actually considering suicide, and THOUGHT to talk to someone about it, might just change their mind. Give no hints, and actually go through with it. I had a friend who suicide. He didn't give any warning, never talked about it, though later through research his family found out what likely caused him to do it. I have never had such a terrible shock as being told he was found dead by his own hand. I literally passed out. It is a heavy, deadly subject and should never be taken lightly or dismissed. Sure, some people might be looking for attention, but it cost people NOTHING to actually give some really needing it such attention. In some ways, it is important to understand a little of the dynamics of someone who is actually suicidal, not passingly suicidal, but seriously fixated on it. Sometimes its actual mental illness which can cause it, and they aren't just trying to get attention. It is a condition that needs to be treated. For others, there are times when something has happened so terrible and shocking to them, they feel they cannot go on, and/or don't want their family shamed, or many different feelings. I've been there, and actually was saved a couple of times. Not from the act, but found near death and taken to a hospital. With therapy for severe post traumatic stress, it took me some years, but I got over it though memories still can be terrible. The flippant comments like "If you can't deal with your own small problems in the world and you honestly want to kill yourself because you believe you can't, then fine, more power to you." Again I feel, although an opinion and each person can have theirs sure, it's really rather close-minded. Something which seems minor to one person, might seen like mountain to another. It is unfortunate some people glorify or idolize suicide and do their webcam time hyping and dramaticizing it for example, and give a warped view to others, who then become quick to dimiss ANYONE who might express self-harm feelings or thoughts. |
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insipidclownfish said: Ummmm, no. Not for the people who are real about it. Maybe some wannabe's in the realm of generic emo/goth culture, but really, nobody who wants to take their own life thinks it is cool. This is true. I can still not adequately express the horror you need to feel to wish to kill yourself, and try. Was moderately depressed for, what, a year and a half or so, during which I could spend days staring at nothing. Or harem shows. The difference was not all that notable. Reading Kafka was comedy to me at the time, and most things seemed idealistic and retarded, and worst of all, not interesting. And so one day I decided that if I would spend sixty years this bored and horrified, I'd rather just spend another few minutes in pain and then be done with it all. I didn't go through with since I realized my fear of heights stopped me, which would mean my distaste with life was less pressing than my pretty much non-existent acrophobia. A bizarre epiphany, the fear of death is quite something, fright of height can dispell the sickness unto death. Whoever would sincerely wish to kill themselves, enough to go through with it, would, I imagine, have to feel quite ill indeed. And if so, then I'd very much understand and in some way be glad for their sake if they managed to kill themselves. I certainly do not blame them. I certainly do think the stigma on suicide is peculiar and do not agree with it. I think we are all free to live or not live as we please. And so, it horribly disgsust me that people would talk about killing themselves, or just being depressed, while obviously being very superficial about it, catchphrases and shallow miscomprehension of how depression feels. You know, the stereotypical emo kids or Werner style romantics. I know getting an air of seriosity and authencity is hard in our age, and feigning despair unto death may be a good way to legitimize oneself, or whatever other pop-psychology I can conjure, but it disgusts me nonetheless. I cannot imagine all that many things more inauthentic and disrespectful. Same thing with the equally blind and disrespectful people who pretend that suicide is an act of cowardice or what have you. There is nothing, nothing cowardous in killing yourself. Try it to find out. Writing about this shit makes me feel a bit awkward and a bit unreal :/ I'm a happy and content penguin nowadays. Hoping for methuselean negligent senescence and indefinite life and all. |
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| people who only think about themselves are selfish and most likely to commit suicide. the value of life is not involve in their thought process when thinking about committing such act. instead they put themselves first and their misery before all other. i mean we are here, created by our parents to support others not harm ourselves. if we go on with life just thinking about how miserable we are then we are not in the right place in the right time. thats just how i see it. you dont care about others then you can go ahead and start anew, but there are different ways to solve a problem. suicide is not one of them. |
Frito said: people who only think about themselves are selfish and most likely to commit suicide. the value of life is not involve in their thought process when thinking about committing such act. instead they put themselves first and their misery before all other. i mean we are here, created by our parents to support others not harm ourselves. if we go on with life just thinking about how miserable we are then we are not in the right place in the right time. thats just how i see it. you dont care about others then you can go ahead and start anew, but there are different ways to solve a problem. suicide is not one of them. Frankly, I do not give a damn what I was purportedly created for. What is selfish is forcing someone to live in pain because their disappearance would leave you unhappy. Of course, that's also wrong. Just contrasting your view with an equally, err, valid view which can be derivable from the same premises. More nuancedly, I do not think that the idea that we should expect everyone created to feel grateful to be forced to live a life of servitude to everyone else is very realistic. And besides, not all parents, in fact pretty few, create kids to "support others". Morel likely they just had no condoms one day. |
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Kaiserpingvin said: yes it is morally understandable that you do not want to bring more pain and misery to yourself, but you have to consider both aspects. most of the time family and friends are more valuable. they just are; we live in a society which thought us to value one another. Frito said: people who only think about themselves are selfish and most likely to commit suicide. the value of life is not involve in their thought process when thinking about committing such act. instead they put themselves first and their misery before all other. i mean we are here, created by our parents to support others not harm ourselves. if we go on with life just thinking about how miserable we are then we are not in the right place in the right time. thats just how i see it. you dont care about others then you can go ahead and start anew, but there are different ways to solve a problem. suicide is not one of them. Frankly, I do not give a damn what I was purportedly created for. What is selfish is forcing someone to live in pain because their disappearance would leave you unhappy. Of course, that's also wrong. Just contrasting your view with an equally, err, valid view which can be derivable from the same premises. More nuancedly, I do not think that the idea that we should expect everyone created to feel grateful to be forced to live a life of servitude to everyone else is very realistic. And besides, not all parents, in fact pretty few, create kids to "support others". Morel likely they just had no condoms one day. moral is what starts conflicts and it sucks that we have different point of views. if we could only understand each other. then the thought of suicide will be eliminated. |
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Frito said: yes it is morally understandable that you do not want to bring more pain and misery to yourself, but you have to consider both aspects. most of the time family and friends are more valuable. they just are; we live in a society which thought us to value one another. moral is what starts conflicts and it sucks that we have different point of views. if we could only understand each other. then the thought of suicide will be eliminated. Ah, so it is moral to work for the pleasure of others. Therefore we have concluded, that instead of suicide, we should ask others to kill us, and they should do it? And people who have no one who cares about them (something it is very common depressed people feel) are also okayed to kill themselves. There is no true moral. Society has a lot of common moral views which I find very much unpalatable. Why follow them then? etc etc. You cannot claim objective and universal truth for moral, since that makes no sense. Much less when it is about suicide, which is a comletely free action which does not impede on any other subject's free will. |
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| Quite the opposite from Japanese shame standards. I'd have a hard time living in a society where Seppuku was expected. I just can't bring myself to view honor above my existence. BLAHBLAHBLAH UR A WESTERNER ITS DIFFRNT CULTUAR. Nah, it's that I enjoy life. The idea involved here is that suicide is an honorable sacrifice. I'm indeed too "cowardly" and "shameful" to be willing to give up my life for others. Suicide doesn't always hurt others, sometimes it's expected. If I was a person willing to consider suicide, I'd think myself a lot less selfish than I am now. It's my selfish trait that I'd rather harm and lose others before losing myself. |
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ukonkivi said: Suicide doesn't always hurt others, sometimes it's expected. suicide always hurts others. fact. It always effects others. those who are suicidal may not think that, but it does. |
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triseke said: ukonkivi said: Suicide doesn't always hurt others, sometimes it's expected. suicide always hurts others. fact. It always effects others. those who are suicidal may not think that, but it does. It may also bring them joy. Fact. Say by inheritance, by the suicidee being a jerkass to begin with, because they know that finally the suicidee's suffering is over... And so on. Also, no, it is not a fact that killing yourself always causes other people pain. Some suicides are committed by people who really do not have anyone caring for them in the slightest, and they do it in a way which does not leave much of a mess for some poor cleaner to sweep off the sidewalk in the morning. |
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Kaiserpingvin said: triseke said: ukonkivi said: Suicide doesn't always hurt others, sometimes it's expected. suicide always hurts others. fact. It always effects others. those who are suicidal may not think that, but it does. It may also bring them joy. Fact. Say by inheritance, by the suicidee being a jerkass to begin with, because they know that finally the suicidee's suffering is over... And so on. Also, no, it is not a fact that killing yourself always causes other people pain. Some suicides are committed by people who really do not have anyone caring for them in the slightest, and they do it in a way which does not leave much of a mess for some poor cleaner to sweep off the sidewalk in the morning. the purpose of this thread is not to argue. I just wanted to let people that feel crap and suicidal know that they are not alone. As ive already said, people dont exist in a vacuum. But people are also stubborn, and unwilling to change their situation, even if its a destructive environment. they will stay in that place because thats all they know. |
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triseke said: ukonkivi said: Suicide doesn't always hurt others, sometimes it's expected. suicide always hurts others. fact. It always effects others. those who are suicidal may not think that, but it does. Sometimes NOT suiciding hurts others. And no it does not always hurt others. People who enjoy living, love others, and live in a society where suicide is frowned upon may not think that it's possible for living to be selfish, but it can. I can't believe people don't realize this on a Japan related forum. |
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| But we must also take into account all the problems of modern life, it isn't easy to live on with all the chains of 21st century. If we exclude teens, who usually looks for attention, we cannot blame the others for committing suicide. Moreover, meaning in life isn't something you can find before you in a dish (like in religion), one must continuously create and recreate his/her raison d'être, and at one point, you may not advance anymore, you may not become deaf to the abyss of meaninglessness... However you can claim that nobody is ever alone, talk to somebody; yet we aren't together: being with someone doesn't end solitude of individual - especially the one that looks for meaning to live. |
corbenic said: So, to all those who put something about commiting suicide in a believable manner, but do it only as a joke and don't really think about it, you're idiots. In your opinion. I'm not saying I agree with the people that make the jokes, but that doesn't make them idiots because they do so. Also, for the kid that put himself up on the webcam, he did it knowing he would get that kind of reaction from people. You can sympathize for the person that was murdered by another person; but, how can you sympathize towards a person that wanted to kill himself? You might be able to, I don't know, but I, personally, can not. |
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| Something which I don't think has been mentioned is that people who are genuinely suicidal are not typically in their right minds. Severe depression can result in an extreme change in personality, as well as hallucinations and the sort. Some people might deal with this change by telling others that they're suicidal and others might not. Some might genuinely desire nothing but death and others might see it as their only possible escape (which is not true, but when you're depressed you aren't thinking straight). If someone is saying they are suicidal, always ALWAYS take them seriously, because even if there's a small chance they're just screwing around, if you make that judgement and you turn out to be wrong you have to live with the guilt of not having been there for your friend when they needed you. |
Sayalol said: In your opinion. I'm not saying I agree with the people that make the jokes, but that doesn't make them idiots because they do so. What does it make them then in your opinion? Sayalol said: Also, for the kid that put himself up on the webcam, he did it knowing he would get that kind of reaction from people. You can sympathize for the person that was murdered by another person; but, how can you sympathize towards a person that wanted to kill himself? You might be able to, I don't know, but I, personally, can not. I'm not sympathizing, I don't care personally since it was a stranger. I hope that those who participated in this had some trauma to deal with, that should teach them that matters of life and death aren't really such a joking material. It's ignorance that annoys me. Crying wolf is idiotic. Meh, I can't really gather my thoughts right now to write what I mean precisely. |
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| I think everyone, at least once in their lives, will experience a period of prolonged depression that leads to such feelings towards themselves. Regardless of religion; when it is said suicide is a sin, it does not mean one may not think of it from time to time. Fortunatly, most people get out of this state and live on happier lives. I detest people who openly discuss their "suicidal thoughts" and self harm habits publicly for the sake of attention. I'm sure we all know some people who do this in school, at work, etc... |
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| I think the main problem for those around when a person is really depressed and/or suicidal is that they are often skilled at hiding it; often people perceive them as normal children (and adults, of course), with no real problems. And that's the scary part, because when you don't reach out to others, and when others can't reach out to you because they think everything's fine, you're already way down there. I mean, I remember my parents and friends' surprise when I told them I had been really, really depressed and suicidal; they hardly believed it. And guess what? I hadn't even been trying to hide it; I just did subconsciously. And talking about it? Definitely too awkward, embarrassing and out-of-the-question. Luckily though, I realized one thing: That the only way to get better is to suck it up, get over it and put on a smile. Because smiling makes you real happy, and all psychological problems can easily be turned into happy feelings; it's just about viewing things from other perspectives, trying to look at the positives of it all, and you'll eventually get over it. The keyword here? Willpower. Unfortunately willpower, in buckets, is something not many have. But if you can muster some willpower, then it's not a big issue getting over your problems, no matter what. And willpower can either come from within; from sitting down and thinking over your life, what and who you are, and some concentration lessons, or it can come from the outside; from talking with others, or just writing it down or screaming it out to no one in particular. That can often be enough for your problems to be relieved a bit, giving you the will to live on. My best advices are those; find a way to muster willpower, and know that even if it feels to awkward/embarrassing/whatnot to talk about it, it's much better than not talking about it. And smile. Force a smile whenever you can; because just as you smile when you are happy, you get happy from smiling enough. |
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