| here's my list from what I've gathered: (Revised) 1. Kouka 2. Umibouzu/ Utsuro 3. Kamui 4. Kagura/ Hosen 5. Abuto/ Mutsu 6. Jirocho 7. Shoyo disciples 8. Jiraiya/ Hajime nii/ Oboro/ Batou/ Shoukaku 9. Saito 10. Okita |
psychogumOct 8, 2016 11:34 PM
| Housen? Jiraia? Jirocho? Sakamoto? Abuto? Etc? |
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| agree with 1 and 2 but no3 should be housen, kyuubei is not that strong, it should be Jirocho instead and how about sadaharu? is it count? |
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Praland said: He's definitely not.No Housen here? You can't be serious |
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| From what the series imply heres my list 1. Utsuro 2. Umibozu 3. Kamui 4. Housen 5. Kagura (Beast Yato Mode) 6. Gintoki 7. Jirochou 8. Katsura 9/10. Sogou/Takasugi |
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| well housen and jiraia died so i thought i leave them out the list, but if they were to be included Housen should be on par with Kamui and Jiraia below Gintoki. Jirochou can be above or on par with Gin and Kagura on Yato mode is deffo stronger than Gintoki. Not sure about Sakamoto should he be in the list? And is Oboro stronger than Gin? |
psychogumJan 13, 2016 12:05 AM
| I don't think Kagura is that strong. She wreck Abuto once, big deal. She only have super strenght and nothing else. She is not actually skilled at fighting. |
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sougura said: well housen and jiraia died so i thought i leave them out the list, but if they were to be included Housen should be on par with Kamui and Jiraia below Gintoki. Jirochou can be above or on par with Gin and Kagura on Yato mode is deffo stronger than Gintoki. Not sure about Sakamoto should he be in the list? And is Oboro stronger than Gin? Gin is stronger than Oboro, he already beat him once. Oboro and Jiraia are tough but I still think Katsura/Sogou and Takasugi are stronger than them. |
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KaiserBait said: I don't think Kagura is that strong. She wreck Abuto once, big deal. She only have super strenght and nothing else. She is not actually skilled at fighting. She's actually quite skilled and resilient when she goes Yato mode, props to Umibozu's DNA I guess. Its not because she wrecked Abuto, its because of Abuto's comment that she could defeat Housen which is saying a lot actually. |
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is probably the strongest, don't know and don't care about the rest. |
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_HeroKenzan_ said: is probably the strongest, don't know and don't care about the rest. It's still not clear how strong utsuro is compared to umibozu |
SansrivaaL said: Umibozu & Housen are said to be equals, and Kamui lost to his dad and was just sparring with a dormant Housen (I use dormant because he never fought anyone strong after living in Yoshiwara, so just like Gintoki prior to Benizakura arc, his true power subsided inside him until the final fight). No way is Sougo in the same league as the Joui 4. He is a prodigy like the Joui 4 when they were his age, but now they're seasoned vets who've fought strong opponents, unlike Sougo who, IIRC, has only slayed fodder (barring Kamui). sougura said: well housen and jiraia died so i thought i leave them out the list, but if they were to be included Housen should be on par with Kamui and Jiraia below Gintoki. Jirochou can be above or on par with Gin and Kagura on Yato mode is deffo stronger than Gintoki. Not sure about Sakamoto should he be in the list? And is Oboro stronger than Gin? 1. Ofc he should be in the list, and ofc he should be ranked with his fellow Joui friends; when Gintoki reunited with him, he told Shinpachi that despite his demeanor, he was a monster. 2. Nah, Gin's stronger. Remember their first fight: Gin was winning until he got pinned in his vitals and found out who he was fighting. And then the second time around, Gin outright beat him. |
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ziggy_Z said: SansrivaaL said: Umibozu & Housen are said to be equals, and Kamui lost to his dad and was just sparring with a dormant Housen (I use dormant because he never fought anyone strong after living in Yoshiwara, so just like Gintoki prior to Benizakura arc, his true power subsided inside him until the final fight). No way is Sougo in the same league as the Joui 4. He is a prodigy like the Joui 4 when they were his age, but now they're seasoned vets who've fought strong opponents, unlike Sougo who, IIRC, has only slayed fodder (barring Kamui) Still I see Kamui being stronger than Housen, Kamui lost to his dad when he was still little but was still able to cut of his dad's arm, Housen couldnt do that, now either he was caught off guard or whatnot that still counts as something since Kamui was still a kid when he did that. hence why I put Sogou and Takasugi at about equals since I wasnt sure which is stronger. Also I cant see Tatsuma beating Sogou (you know what I mean) he cant hold a sword anymore because of (manga spoilers) True Okita hasnt defeated anyone notable but his fight with Kamui isnt something to look past to, Kamui is one of the strongest Yato in the series Okita gave him major injuries, Kamui aint survivng a kunai to the face, but theres a chance that Sogou may survive Kamui's punch since he already did. |
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| Note that my list consists of current strength not when characters were in their prime, also bracketed people are dead or status unknown: 1/2) Utsuro/Umibouzo 3) Kamui 4) (Housen) 5) Gintoki 6/7/8/9) Takasugi/Oboro/Sougo/Jirocho 10/11) Katsura/Kagura |
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| 1) Utsuro 2) Umibouzu/Prime Housen 3) Kamui 4) Crazy Kagura 5) Gintoki/Oboro 6) Takasugi 7) Katsura 8) Jirocho/Abuto 9) Jiraiya 10) Okita Unsure where the guy that Gintoki is currently fighting in the manga goes though. |
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| 0- Madao 1- Utsuro 2- Umibozu 3- Housen 4- Kamui (Since Gintoki is going equal with him atm, I'll assume he's weaker than Housen) 5- Gintoki (His stamina just beats everything, he'll get up no matter how badly hurt) 6- Kagura (Yato Mode) 7- Jirocho 8- Takasugi and Katsura 9- Jiraya 10- Sougo (Since he actually tried against Kamui). |
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railguncat said: _HeroKenzan_ said: is probably the strongest, don't know and don't care about the rest. It's still not clear how strong utsuro is compared to umibozu Read the manga, you will know the answer |
| My top strongest protagonists which are human 1. Gintoki [God tier endurance + strong for a human + skilled with sword + battle experience] 2. Joi friends: Takasugi, Katsura, Sakamoto [Great endurance + Skilled with respective weapons + battle experience] > Kagura and Umibozu somewhere here [Very strong] 3. Hijikata/Isaburo [Good endurance + Decent sword/gun skill] 4. Sougo/Nobume/Saito/Ikeda [Very skilled with the sword] 5. Zenzo/Tsukuyo/Sarutobi [Fast] 6. Kondo/Kyubei and her dojo goers 7. Glasses Top villains 1. Utsuro [Regenerative powers + Fast + Skilled at sword] 2. Housen [Super strong] >Jirocho [Not a villain anymore though. Great endurance] 3. Kamui / Jiraia [Can't decide. One is strong while the other is very fast] 4. Oboro [Has regeneration powers but easily beat most of the time] 5. Nizou [Can go berserk, pretty easy to beat when berserk] 6. Abuto [Lost his arm, at a disadvantage] 7. Bansai/Makoto |
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| “Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's first law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth. But the world isn't perfect, and the law is incomplete..." -Alphonse Elric "Then and now, what I protect has never changed!" -Sakata Gintoki I'll take anything like The Pet Girl of Sakurasou. Anything as good as that. |
LOL... Shinpachi is not even a human! HE IS JUST A PAIR OF GLASSES. 95% Shinpachi is made of Glasses, 3% is water and 2% is garbage. Please label him as a Garbage. Just Kidding. LOLOLOL. |
| 1. Umibouzu 2. Utsuro 3. Kamui 4. Housen 5. Jirocho 6. Yato- mode Kagura 7. Gintoki 8. Oboro 9. Takasugi 10. Sougo I've not read the manga past the point where the anime ended, so this is really a wild guess on what's already been seen ^^ |
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Strawberrycake48 said: I think Katsura may just be on par with Gintoki, if not stronger, after reading a specific chapter post anime stops tbh.1. Umibouzu 2. Utsuro 3. Kamui 4. Housen 5. Jirocho 6. Yato- mode Kagura 7. Gintoki 8. Oboro 9. Takasugi 10. Sougo I've not read the manga past the point where the anime ended, so this is really a wild guess on what's already been seen ^^ |
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Snappynator said: Strawberrycake48 said: I think Katsura may just be on par with Gintoki, if not stronger, after reading a specific chapter post anime stops tbh.1. Umibouzu 2. Utsuro 3. Kamui 4. Housen 5. Jirocho 6. Yato- mode Kagura 7. Gintoki 8. Oboro 9. Takasugi 10. Sougo I've not read the manga past the point where the anime ended, so this is really a wild guess on what's already been seen ^^ Really?!? That sounds awesome, now I'm really tempted to catch up with the manga! I've been waiting so long for Katsura to get the fighting spotlight so you now have me pretty hyped >_< |
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| Finished the anime and just caught up with the manga Hmm also, I wanted to share my opinion on this thread. I can't really do 10 because some are equal but anyway here's my list. 1. Utsuro / Shoyo 2. Yato clan: 1. Umibouzo/ Hosen/ Kamui/ Yato mode Kagura>Abuto 3. The samurais (1. Gintoki 2. Takasugi 3. Katsura ) maybe I should also add Kyubei's grand dad, Jirocho and Oboro here at no.3 4. Other yatos: Kagura normal mode> Mutsu 5. Okita > Sakamoto > Nobume > Shimaru >Zenzo > Bansai -Did I missed someone? I think she's as strong as Umi or maybe even stronger. Should I put Obi Hajime? haha! I know he's also strong but his arc was troll, I mean it was based on star wars so I didn't take it seriously. -BUT! personally without Utsuro's Immortality, Umi would be number one for me, Kamui's really close though. - I still think that Umi is the strongest yato especially during Umi's prime/ young years. Even if he was compared to Hosen and Kamui, just an opinion though. unless we see Kamui berserk mode. -Kagura's Yato mode no doubt about it is as strong as Hosen. Abuto even stated that. -I think Abuto is stronger than Kagura normal mode, because his a veteran. About mutsu she barely have enough screen time so I cant know for sure if she's stronger than kagura or not but shes yato so i have to put her here. - I don't know how strong sakamoto is because he's such a troll sometimes. - I really don't know were to put kagura and the other yatos at first because IN TERMS OF MERE STRENGTH they are stronger than gin and the other samurais, its given. but Gin has more combat experience i think so I have to put them below gin -Got to give credit to Okita, I mean he almost lasts a minute to kamui. - As much as I love Gin, I don't think he's the strongest, I think both gin and takasugi are equal and yeah maybe even Katsura He's just such an idiot sometimes. BUT! when it comes to willpower and the urge to stand up and fight back Gin outshines them all! yeah right! |
QueenSapphireAug 17, 2016 8:07 PM
| It's been a while since I've watched the show but here we go. 1. Kamui 2. Umibozu 3. Housen 4. Utsuro 5. Abuto 6. Takasugi 7. Gintoki 8. Sougo 9. Katsura 10. Kagura I believe pure strength wise Kamui is first. He's younger then the rest of the Yato He's Probably in his prime. And the guy's a beast he lives for fighting. I see a lot of the people rank Kagura pretty high but Sougo is at least her equal. For the entire anime they have been basically rivals. And if anything Sougo might be better. All the Damage Kagura Does to Kamui is because of Sougo and Kagura even admits to that. In a couple more years he will be Gin and Takasugi level. The kids a beast. |
KaiserNazrin said: I don't think Kagura is that strong. She wreck Abuto once, big deal. She only have super strenght and nothing else. She is not actually skilled at fighting. It is a big deal for a 14 year old to outdo a war veteran. true she's not that skilled at fighting and only have super strength, since she's still just a child. in BFY you can see she's outstanding in battlefield. Anyway the thread is about who's stronger not who's the better fighter. |
| So all the replies here are before rakuyou decisive batte. If we are talking now, then zura is equally strong as gintoki and stronger than other human characters including takasugi except the guy never takes anything seriously. |
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| I think there missing one in the strongest character of Gintama Elizabeth... Long ass PP. |
LakasTamaAug 13, 2020 5:57 AM
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| 1. Utsuro, Kouka 2. Umibozu 3. Kamui 4. Hosen 5. Kagura 6. Abuto, Mutsu 7. Gin, Taka, Zura 8. Jirocho, Jiraya 9. Okita, Nobume 10. Hijikata, Kondo |
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| 1.Gorilla Sorachi,he is the creator or the omnipotent 2.Sagi from that elizabeth arc,he could oneshot any characters you guys mentioned 3.Utsuro,because skill matter in gintama,he would beat kouka if both of them not immortal |
Kritoveris said: 1.Gorilla Sorachi,he is the creator or the omnipotent 2.Sagi from that elizabeth arc,he could oneshot any characters you guys mentioned 3.Utsuro,because skill matter in gintama,he would beat kouka if both of them not immortal 4. Taka-tin, french bread. |
Shozaro said: Kritoveris said: 1.Gorilla Sorachi,he is the creator or the omnipotent 2.Sagi from that elizabeth arc,he could oneshot any characters you guys mentioned 3.Utsuro,because skill matter in gintama,he would beat kouka if both of them not immortal 4. Taka-tin, french bread. 5. Nishiki Matsugorou |
| 1. Utsuro 2. Umibozu 3. Kamui 4. Housen 5. Hedoro 6. Master Son 7. Gintoki 8. Takasugi 9. Zura 10. Oboro Not including Kouka since we never saw her true potential. |
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