Shaman King (2021) Episode 8 Discussion

Blue_Maroon said:
I was hoping that Manta was going to leave, but I knew that was wishful thinking.

Another boring episode, this time it was training for Yoh’s fight with the Chinese kid. Something I don’t understand is my Yoh’s grandpa never taught him about the Over Soul technique, but I guess he taught it to the premonition girl with the spirit that has fat fucking nuts? What the hell was that about anyways?

Also, why the hell would the pompadour guy go to America to learn how to make sushi when he is literally in Japan?

The next fight might end up being the make-or-break point for me in this anime.

-Elevate- said:
how is this anime so far? i am planning on watching it once its on netflix

-Elevate- said:
how is this anime so far? i am planning on watching it once its on netflix

CrimsonCW said:

That's the biggest part that makes really no sense.

TakafumiNaito said:


There is a reason why fodder tier Shamans that can't even produce an oversoul are tested before the pre-eliminaries, because anyone who can figure it out, create and maintain an oversoul despite a threat of death - has the wisdom that makes them capable enough to potentially matter - despite the fact they are trash.

Both Tao and Asakura families are some of the most powerful shamanic families with long history. We can very reasonably assume they know about the testing process, and they believe in the value of the test.

Basically the screening is the last chance for their heirs to be spared from having to participate, and most likely suffering an excruciating death later in the tournament.

As Yohmei - if Yoh doesn't want to train, he won't force him to be a shaman and die a meaningless death - he must WANT to participate more than he wants to live.

On the Tao end, they may be full of haye and spite, but one thing they do care about is their family. Ren was taught excellely producing a perfect oversoul on his first attempt was a result of constant training that was preparing him to master an oversoul - but should he fail the test - they'll just wait another 500 years.

Consider than En is one of the strongest characters in universe, and he still doesn't participate in the tournament, that's how unlikely it is to survive the tournament.

So yeah TL:DR - they weren't taught oversoul, so that they could participate in the the entry test, which could save their lives, or at least confirm whether they want to die trying

TakafumiNaito said:


How does any of that relate to episode 8 of Shaman King again? ^^'

Give it time for the story to get going, and the score will go up. I would say that Shaman King would never stand on top of the scores among the average viewers, but with this adaptation rushing or cutting a lot of the things that make Shaman King, it's actually likely it will be highly rated.

I really doubt it could ever compete with Demon Slayer though. Regardless of anyone's individual opinion, Demon Slayer has made history and made what is likely to stay as unbeatable sales record.

CrimsonCW said:


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TakafumiNaito said:


No, no. Only the people the abilities of whom are in question get tested before the pre-elimaries

There are only 10 officiants to test thousands of people that want to be shaman king. And absolute most of them fails.

Silva didn't get to testing Yoh until night time and even there his sacred spirits were insisting that they do not have 10 minutes to spare on testing a kid that uses a human spirit and that they should just go. Testing well established shamans is not only not worth the time, it is also dangerous - they said that they never expected a death this early on - because people that were tested weren't supposed to be strong enough to be dangerous.

If they tested everyone the officiants be dropping like flies. Don't get me wrong, they aren't weak - actually they have to be above average if they are tasked with overseeing the tournament - but if any of them could survive against Shaman King candidates - they wouldn't be judges, they'd be participants ^^'

There is no way Ren was stronger than Chrom, but in Shaman King's power system numbers mean very little.

We have to assume every test looks roughly the same, they show the power of oversoul, they wait for the opponent to create an oversoul of their own, and when that happens they scare them with a scary looking attack.

The point is oversoul is maintained by pure concentration, telling them it's a life or death scenario weeds out people that buckle under pressure - but the attack itself is not meant to kill. I'm sure it could happen but that would be an accident, not on purpose.

If they really went all out they'd just kill all participants ^^'

And there comes Ren, who was unknowingly trained his whole life for this moment. He not only creates an oversoul, but it's perfectly contained, no overflow whatsoever, what's more he's leagues stronger than all the other fodder tiers, he sliced through the blast with ease - if Yoh could have went through, for Ren this was like butter, and the hit landed full strength into Chrom, who did not have anything to protect him. Power levels only decide how strong the oversoul is, being stabbed through the chest will kill you, no matter who you are. And even though the officiants use oversoul to enhance their physical abilities, the totem pole requires it to be disengaged.

Fede111 said:
Not that I remember much from when I saw it as a kid but it does feel like it's going too fast and skipping too much... should I just drop it and go watch the original?

Fede111 said:
Not that I remember much from when I saw it as a kid but it does feel like it's going too fast and skipping too much... should I just drop it and go watch the original?