Kayle_x_Morgana said: Interesting, obviously you understand reality and just prefer to deny it. There is indeed no better method than to equate "main character" with "protagonist", just like anilist.co choose to do as well. As much as I understand your wish to be "the decider", I'm afraid that job is already taken by GWB. We mere pedestrian anime watchers have to settle with the reality that picking a particular character out of the group of mains and tag him/her "protagonist" is a completely arbitrary and subjective act.having 2 main characters, 1 being a guy and other being a girl does not mean "female protagonist" because that would literally be every anime that also has a female "main character" |
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| I'm not being sexist, but male dominates in the anime industry. There are also more male viewers than there are female viewers in anime. That doesn't prove anything though but there plenty of female leads in anime, it's just that most of the anime industry is dominated by men, which means there are more male authors and directors who will probably have their protagonist as a male which is usual. It's not sexist at all, it's just that men are dominating in the anime industry, it's just how it is.. |
| Plot twist: Kayle was a libcuck all along who just wanted attention. Welcome to the club buddy. Kayle_x_Morgana said: And fushi? it is a dude, what? Why are you counting people who can change shape as "non binary". How do you even come up with that lol. Fushi is an otherworldly being without any form of its own. It started out as an orb, transformed into a rock when the orb made contact to the ground, stayed that way until a wolf died near it so it could transform into it, and then the nameless boy. Fushi isn't any more "nameless boy" than its other forms that it acquires throughout the rest of its journey. |
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| A male MC just appeals to way more people than if it was a female MC. I won't deny that I'm more likely to start a show that has a male lead. Of course female MCS can still have great anime, such as Kill La Kill. However I just took a look at my top 50 anime list and only saw two anime that had a female as the prime MC ( KLK, and Houseki no Kuni ) There are some shows where a female is a MC, but is not the prime one, (like where it has 2 female MCS, and 2 male MCS. etc) |
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Kayle_x_Morgana said: Janethan23 said: I don't understand why this thread exists at all when all throughout anime history female lead roles are as lucrative as male roles. Even the gay and lesbian roles make money as well so what seems to be the problem here? Why question such a harmonious balance between ALL genders? Don't get caught up with the woke bs that ruined western entertainment when they forced their agenda of tipping the scales to favor only a certain group which alienated everyone else. Why is there so little female leads in anime.... and well, everything Here are some of the current season linup : Female - Diva = Vivy -Fluorite Eye Song- - Lena = 86 Eighty Six - Kumoko = So I'm a spider, so what? - Tohru = Fruit Basket - Sayu = Higero - Ichika = Koikimo - Nagatoro = Don't toy with me - Azuza = I've been killing slimes for 300 yrs Non Binary - Fushi = To your eternity - Rimuru = That time I got reincarnated as a slime These titles aren't obscure anime. They're trending hits that are relevant atm. I strongly recommend that you should look at anime as a whole and see how equal the industry is to every gender. That is this season. non binary lol. rimuru was a literally a fucking guy in his previous life. he can change into the human because he is a slime and got the body from the girl. LMFAO And fushi? it is a dude, what? Why are you counting people who can change shape as "non binary". How do you even come up with that lol. Ok now you're just talking out of your agenda driven ass without looking up what the hell your going to talk about. You come here talking shit about the anime industry being favorable to male viewers; Well I've got some new for you; It is and it has nothing to do with toxic masculinity. The huge market profit comes from male consumers willing to spend their [u]MORE]/u] money. It's a fact you can shove up your misinformed triggered ass. Female, Gay, Lesbian and non binary are well represented in anime so for you to even imply that there needs to a change since your trying to draw attention to the subject and raise awareness is completely idiotic. For over 2 decades, western entertainment (hollywood) has been turned inside out to favor everything that wasn't white and male so guess what happened? They lost over half their audience and the profit that goes with it. You think it's smart to go against what the general public wants and impose your own opinion? A lot of you idiots think it is smart to do so; so there lies the problem. The interest of the paying majority should be prioritized over people like you who troll forum threats to make noise but would never commit to spend a dime to support it. I'm not interested in giving you more attention to talk about Fushi and Rimuru since it's beside the point and you're an idiot for not knowing what ambiguity means. I'm so out of this thread. Enjoy your trolling... at least it keeps you from going full reeeeeeeeee |
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Auron_ said: Plot twist: Kayle was a libcuck all along who just wanted attention. Welcome to the club buddy. Kayle_x_Morgana said: And fushi? it is a dude, what? Why are you counting people who can change shape as "non binary". How do you even come up with that lol. Fushi is an otherworldly being without any form of its own. It started out as an orb, transformed into a rock when the orb made contact to the ground, stayed that way until a wolf died near it so it could transform into it, and then the nameless boy. Fushi isn't any more "nameless boy" than its other forms that it acquires throughout the rest of its journey. Nope. I like strong powerful woman. But not the western games/show ones who are ugly looking and usually are plus size/body builders like are in all games. Gears of war and Apex legends a good example and everyone's classic, tlou2. If you want a recent example they made the Amazon remake in Diablo 2 literally look like she got hit by a truck. And ofc I don't even need to say anything about western world shows, ads etc IRL. No beauty standards. Janethan23 said: Kayle_x_Morgana said: That is this season. non binary lol. rimuru was a literally a fucking guy in his previous life. he can change into the human because he is a slime and got the body from the girl. LMFAO And fushi? it is a dude, what? Why are you counting people who can change shape as "non binary". How do you even come up with that lol. toxic masculinity. Anyway... |
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Kayle_x_Morgana said: Janethan23 said: I don't understand why this thread exists at all when all throughout anime history female lead roles are as lucrative as male roles. Even the gay and lesbian roles make money as well so what seems to be the problem here? Why question such a harmonious balance between ALL genders? Don't get caught up with the woke bs that ruined western entertainment when they forced their agenda of tipping the scales to favor only a certain group which alienated everyone else. Why is there so little female leads in anime.... and well, everything Here are some of the current season linup : Female - Diva = Vivy -Fluorite Eye Song- - Lena = 86 Eighty Six - Kumoko = So I'm a spider, so what? - Tohru = Fruit Basket - Sayu = Higero - Ichika = Koikimo - Nagatoro = Don't toy with me - Azuza = I've been killing slimes for 300 yrs Non Binary - Fushi = To your eternity - Rimuru = That time I got reincarnated as a slime These titles aren't obscure anime. They're trending hits that are relevant atm. I strongly recommend that you should look at anime as a whole and see how equal the industry is to every gender. That is this season. non binary lol. rimuru was a literally a fucking guy in his previous life. he can change into the human because he is a slime and got the body from the girl. LMFAO While Rimuru's early human gender is clearly male, the slime form doesn't have a gender, because it's not human for starters. I'm surprised you mention when Rimuru finally gets the chance to have a human form, and forget that it's actually their conscious choice to keep a human body that doesn't have genitalia and is physically ambiguous. I don't know if I would call that non-binary or plain agender but it's clear Rimuru is no longer supposed to be male there. |
jal90 said: Kayle_x_Morgana said: That is this season. non binary lol. rimuru was a literally a fucking guy in his previous life. he can change into the human because he is a slime and got the body from the girl. LMFAO While Rimuru's early human gender is clearly male, the slime form doesn't have a gender, because it's not human for starters. I'm surprised you mention when Rimuru finally gets the chance to have a human form, and forget that it's actually their conscious choice to keep a human body that doesn't have genitalia and is physically ambiguous. I don't know if I would call that non-binary or plain agender but it's clear Rimuru is no longer supposed to be male there. Actually, we also had that spider show; "So I'm a Spider, So What?". The lead is also binary. Who cares, what they were in their previous life. One of my favorite manga tensei kyuuketsuki-san wa ohirune ga shitai is also a reincarnated male into a young female vampire. So we do have female leads even if it's twisted. ... the beauty of fiction |
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Armados said: Because the anime industry is filled with dumb authors who just use female characters as fat balloons of tits, thighs and asses. Most female characters exist there to drool over the main male character, fall inlove with him and want him to be their boyfriend for eternity. The male characters aren't better for the most part, but they exist so that the average male viewer would associate themselves with said MC and wish they'd be in his shoes. Imagine being such an empty, joyless human being that you describe anime girls who are some of the most beautiful creations on Earth as "fat balloons of tits, thighs, and asses." To answer OP, a female lead in most stories doesn't make much sense. Watch more shoujo or magical girl stuff. |
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BlossomBurst said: 1. Male centric society where men hold more power on average 2. More men making stories that sell than women 3. Those men make characters they relate to and that relate to their target audience Result: barely any women in media because it’s discouraged due to fear of less sales and the no 1 anime on mal FMAB is written by a woman, and demon slayer's author is also a woman and my favourite shoujo fruits basket was also written by a woman |
Eldinis said: jal90 said: While Rimuru's early human gender is clearly male, the slime form doesn't have a gender, because it's not human for starters. I'm surprised you mention when Rimuru finally gets the chance to have a human form, and forget that it's actually their conscious choice to keep a human body that doesn't have genitalia and is physically ambiguous. I don't know if I would call that non-binary or plain agender but it's clear Rimuru is no longer supposed to be male there. Actually, we also had that spider show; "So I'm a Spider, So What?". The lead is also binary. Who cares, what they were in their previous life. One of my favorite manga tensei kyuuketsuki-san wa ohirune ga shitai is also a reincarnated male into a young female vampire. So we do have female leads even if it's twisted. ... the beauty of fiction Yeah, I guess the spider isekai could also be an example of that, I don't know if the spider is supposed to be gendered. The case of Rimuru is particularly notable though because not only the slime form is not gendered but when they acquire a human form they specifically decide not to have a gendered one. |
Armados said: Because the anime industry is filled with dumb authors who just use female characters as fat balloons of tits, thighs and asses. Most female characters exist there to drool over the main male character, fall inlove with him and want him to be their boyfriend for eternity. The male characters aren't better for the most part, but they exist so that the average male viewer would associate themselves with said MC and wish they'd be in his shoes. Even though you have over 500 anime completed, we have only 59 in common which leads me to believe your warped perception of anime is entirely your own fault because you have shit taste. |
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| imo, it has more to do with demographics. |
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| I mean @Armados, probably not related to your taste but what you said about the majority of female characters (and males for that matter, but your description is less specific so anything could fit) is kind of an angry lie that you know very well it is. But I guess it fits a thread of already questionable if not plain false premises. |
| Mostly because shows are trying to get maximum profit and sadly boys are less likely than girls to watch a show with a lead of the opposite sex because historical gender roles (that where sexist btw) made woman learn to be used to not being like the MC more than boys, with exceptions being the less numerous genres where female where expected to watch more, like Disney princess movies, in that case it worked the same, but the other way around. That's very prevalent in anime, look to the isekai genre as an exemple: Most of it have male leades, and only after it got satured and most famous ligth novels/mangas with males leades where adapted that the famous ones with female leades started getting picked up. Also, teens are the ones that are more likely to do it, so if your anime is aimed at teen audience instead of adult and young adult the more likely it is to have a male lead. |
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| I think this guy never heard of CGDCT anime genre, I've been to much watching CGDCT anime I even forget male mc is even exist. |
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| I actually think there is more female leads in anime than other medias. Ofcs you have your shoujo leads but it's also usual to see characters like Major (Ghost in the Shell), Ryuko (Kill la Kill) and Claire (Claymore) in animes that are for older (and male) audiences. |
| hm id say that it's just with demand,, and how they become popular. since there r MUCH MORE male viewers shounen had a really high rise, harems, isekais and those stuff but there still are alot of non popular ones with a lot of girl mc's mostly on shoujos and we cant forget about studio ghibli who ALMOST has all of their movies with female mcs. but yea like the previous comments, on every genre we can find a female mc |
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| as many have said there are entire demographics that have only female leads and also i don't understand what change if the lead is a man and a woman, also a demographic some people didn't say that has only woman mc's is yuri and wl. some of the anime that comes to mind with female leads that are or are considered good are: shinsekai yori, revolutinary girl utena, serial experiments lain, kyousougiga, black lagoon, kill la kill, and a shit ton of others that i'm too lazy to write |
SunHater-NoRoman said: I think this guy never heard of CGDCT anime genre, I've been to much watching CGDCT anime I even forget male mc is even exist. Yeah and those are crap. I looked at a list and I've only seen 2 of them, k-on and lucky star which I saw ages ago so my rating would probably go down if I rewatched it. |
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| There are plenty of female leads. Unfortunately they tend to propagate in average to sub par anime or on the sol/romance genre. ( a genre I find quite tedious and lacking personally) |
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PeanutButter789 said: BlossomBurst said: 1. Male centric society where men hold more power on average 2. More men making stories that sell than women 3. Those men make characters they relate to and that relate to their target audience Result: barely any women in media because it’s discouraged due to fear of less sales and the no 1 anime on mal FMAB is written by a woman, and demon slayer's author is also a woman and my favourite shoujo fruits basket was also written by a woman I think that's great that there are popular female mangaka but I'm talking about how it is on average. They're unfortunately not representative of the whole manga industry, but it's nice seeing women like them push the industry forward. |
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jarrific said: i think you've got a point there, also i'd like to add how female writers prolly get better reception with male leads even if they prefer writing womenI don't know for sure, but I'm speculating the main reason is the general difference in numbers between male and female writers. And even then, if a male writer creates a female character it's likely to be worse than if he did otherwise. However, I might be really really wrong. So, don't take it seriously. |
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Armados said: Ryuk9428 said: Imagine being such an empty, joyless human being that you describe anime girls who are some of the most beautiful creations on Earth as "fat balloons of tits, thighs, and asses." To answer OP, a female lead in most stories doesn't make much sense. Watch more shoujo or magical girl stuff. Yeah yeah, you watch anime for sexual satisfaction, we get that. Many people don't. :) epidemia78 said: Even though you have over 500 anime completed, we have only 59 in common which leads me to believe your warped perception of anime is entirely your own fault because you have shit taste. lol - Claiming to have superior taste. - Watches stuff like the Quintuplets, Amagi Brilliant Park and more animes that simply try to appease horny males. - Watches stuff like K-on, while giving it a high score, even though cute girls doing cute things is a wannabe "genre" that offers absolutely nothing and tries to get carried through random girls acting in moe-like fashion. Yeah clearly "superior taste", you just watch animes that have absolutely no plot or animes that are literally based on fanservice. You're surely having superior taste. Also, most female characters in anime have absolutely no personality, just because you have 5 quintuplets that have different character tropes doesn't mean they feel anything like actual characters. When attempting to watch that anime, I've seen plenty of people questioning how the hell they even fell for the MC who is as stale and boring as watching paint dry, or how they all will do freaking anything just to have a chance to be his lover because apparently they clearly weren't written just to be "select 1 blank template out of 5", but actual characters... oh wait... It’s too bad you don’t have a sex drive. You’re missing out on one of the best parts of anime culture 😂 |
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Alioune said: Kayle_x_Morgana said: Not a troll sexism thread. I like female leads more but why is it? I can understand games since mostly dudes play it but in movies, shitty reality shows, dramas, kids cartoons etc, it is a guy like 80%(fact check this for me). There is actually a few this season. I don't know if there a chart showing how many and if the # is going up over the years for anime. Edit: good lord, these forums are worse than usual. I was complaining about the QUANTITY not QUALITY. If your complain is about quantity, then probably the answer is the same as videogame: most of anime watchers are males. Majority of people here on MAL are males too: https://myanimelist.net/images/mtb/ad_fig02@2x.png I was going to say "but don't guys want to see -hot -strong powerful woman?"(unlike western ones) Then I remembered that I have seen people bitching on steam when you had to play as a woman in a video game like horizon zero dawn. So it makes sense. Armados said: Ryuk9428 said: Imagine being such an empty, joyless human being that you describe anime girls who are some of the most beautiful creations on Earth as "fat balloons of tits, thighs, and asses." To answer OP, a female lead in most stories doesn't make much sense. Watch more shoujo or magical girl stuff. Yeah yeah, you watch anime for sexual satisfaction, we get that. Many people don't. :) epidemia78 said: Even though you have over 500 anime completed, we have only 59 in common which leads me to believe your warped perception of anime is entirely your own fault because you have shit taste. lol - Claiming to have superior taste. - Watches stuff like the Quintuplets, Amagi Brilliant Park and more animes that simply try to appease horny males. - Watches stuff like K-on, while giving it a high score, even though cute girls doing cute things is a wannabe "genre" that offers absolutely nothing and tries to get carried through random girls acting in moe-like fashion. Yeah clearly "superior taste", you just watch animes that have absolutely no plot or animes that are literally based on fanservice. You're surely having superior taste. Also, most female characters in anime have absolutely no personality, just because you have 5 quintuplets that have different character tropes doesn't mean they feel anything like actual characters. When attempting to watch that anime, I've seen plenty of people questioning how the hell they even fell for the MC who is as stale and boring as watching paint dry, or how they all will do freaking anything just to have a chance to be his lover because apparently they clearly weren't written just to be "select 1 blank template out of 5", but actual characters... oh wait... Uhhhh amagi park was good. |
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| Because shoujo is more in manga not anime. Don't worry, more and more women leads will come. Though there are a fair share of women leads in anime but past era has its effects where outside roles were way more of men where they presented themselves to world the most and male audience size has always been bigger. |
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| Huh? There are a lot of series with female leads. There's hundreds of shows with nothing but an entire female cast, let alone a lead. So I have no idea what you mean. |
| i think the better question would be "why is there so little well-written female leads compared to male ones?" |
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inim said: Kayle_x_Morgana said: Interesting, obviously you understand reality and just prefer to deny it. There is indeed no better method than to equate "main character" with "protagonist", just like anilist.co choose to do as well. As much as I understand your wish to be "the decider", I'm afraid that job is already taken by GWB. We mere pedestrian anime watchers have to settle with the reality that picking a particular character out of the group of mains and tag him/her "protagonist" is a completely arbitrary and subjective act.having 2 main characters, 1 being a guy and other being a girl does not mean "female protagonist" because that would literally be every anime that also has a female "main character" I laughed so hard at that. Thank you very much, Sir. |
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Kayle_x_Morgana said: SunHater-NoRoman said: I think this guy never heard of CGDCT anime genre, I've been to much watching CGDCT anime I even forget male mc is even exist. Yeah and those are crap. I looked at a list and I've only seen 2 of them, k-on and lucky star which I saw ages ago so my rating would probably go down if I rewatched it. I consider K-on is half CGDCT anime since its still has continuity plot. besides CGDCT, lots of Drama and romance anime has female mc. I've seen more female leaded anime than male leaded anime. |
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snooze- said: If I don't have alzheimers, I'm sure that there's actually an abundance of female lead anime and manga out there. Whether it would be a CGDCT like K-On and Yuru Camp, a mahou shoujo like Sailor Moon and Cardcaptor Sakura, or even some shounenshit like Soul Eater. Hayao Miyazaki works are also rife with females protaganists and there are even many weird, experimental anime like Serial Experiments Lain and Utena. I don't get it when people complain about this type of stuff. your entire profile can confirm it XD |
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