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Stygian_Prisoner said: mitsukirox101 said: Okay, this episode was *the* episode that ruffled my feathers as an anime-only watcher. Within the first 7 minutes we are hit with literally SO MUCH INFORMATION, yet the pacing of the episode was slow as hell? Honestly I could have done without Emma's little morality debate on whether or not humans had the right to just start killing the demons back. I understand where she is coming from, but children are dying; we have to pick one battle at a time. Her qualms seem to stem only from the fact that Sonju and Mujika helped everyone survive in the forest, which is a huge factor in the story. But, if something happened between Norman and the "evil blooded girl" who I assume is Mujika (even though I would not describe her as human like... maybe in size at least), then the anime should have shown us that arch first so we could understand how dire the situation is. I think they tried to do this with Sonju saying he'd love to eat human meat after they left the forest, but even this didn't make much sense at the time because we have no idea what their motive was for keeping those kids alive instead of just eating them. Again, the order in which the information was presented to us is subpar. I have no idea how this can be remedied because now we as the audience are meant to go through the mental struggle Emma is going through when it comes to the eradication effort. If we as the viewers had both the knowledge Emma and Norman have from their own experiences, then this would be a justified turn of events, but for now it's just extremely annoying!! I agree with your critique overall but, to be fair, they did explain that in the same episode. The reason why Sonju let the kids go despite his hidden desire for human meat is because he's hoping that they'll survive long enough to breed naturally and then propagate in the wild over the years. If that happens, their descendants will become part of the natural food chain, and thus fair game for Sonju to hunt and eat them without having to go against his religion's "No Child Farm Meat" policy. Basically, Sonju may not an immediate threat for now but he is definitely playing the long game, though i dunno what Mujika's deal is in all this. I guess we'll find out soon enough. Ahhh thank you for helping me understand! I completely missed that their religion was specifically against "Farm Child Meat", this makes sense now. Time to watch the next episode! |
| Emma is such a fucking pussy. |
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| The fact that we didn t see Norman’s side and so much stuff feels skipped and insanely rushed ( i don t read manga ) really spoils the experience. |
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| I see they took the approach of tell, not show... and it's so bad. First with Norman telling everything that happened to him off camera being even laughable at how convenient it all was. It feels like there's a whole arc missing here. Same problem with Emma. I would understand her wanting to save the 2 demons she socialized with but not wanting to kill anyone? I'm sorry, it may be credible for her character but it's dumb with the few interactions they've had with demons at least in the anime. |
| If Emma was my friend, I'd certainly be infuriated by her notion. She's basically trying to fantasize about something that is beyond their reach. Norman's plan is much more logical. Emma is lucky that she got Ray to back her up. |
 She got him back. If you understand the characters well enough, you'd know she did! |
mbyhmma said: So Sonju and Mujika are like demon versions of vegans but maybe not? Norman's reaction to Mujika and Sonju's blood-thirst has me doubting them juuuust a tad The two demons are clearly more than they said they were. |
| Quite the leap from just running away from demons to having a plan to eradicate them all. I find Emma's reasoning against annihilation quite flawed considering most demons appear similar to humans only because they take the form and intellect from what they eat. |
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| The pacing definitely feels off here.. too fast? |
| I'm Bruneian and I like anime. And Manchester United. And fat cats. |
| I was okay with this up until this episode. Jesus christ, the pacing. |
| Norman is gonna sell drugs to the demons... that boy has a mind for business, I tell ya!!! Everyone looked as if they saw a ghost when Norman appeared in front of them. Like them, I, too, had gone pale. Emma wants a world where demons and humans can co-exist. I understand her pain then, knowing that everyone around her wants the annihilation of the demons instead. I wonder if there is a way for them to co-exist... Norman didn't like that. |
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| It feels so weird to have to doubt whatever Norman is saying. Now, Sonju did reveal his predatory intentions, but Mujika did display a great deal of peacefulness. I can't believe this, but I'm leaning more to doubting Norman than believing in his accusations. |
| That was so boring and then when it could get interesting, how much this season/show can be, it ends. Emma is making no sense. |
| I was enjoying the season up to here despite the reception and was starting to feel like maybe it was just over-hated. But this ep was a bit eh, Emma is starting to annoy me and some of the twists with Norman seem a bit far-fetched, definitely odd pacing too as everyone says. |
| I have a third testicle that gives me psychic powers |
| I get where Emma is coming from but if people wanted to live in harmony with demons, don't you think it would've happened by now? They made that deal 1000 years ago for a reason, exactly because they couldn't live together. Also seems there's more to at least Mujika and maybe Sonju. Maybe Mujika was the one experimenting on him. That said, they could've easily killed them and we know that Mujika at least wasn't thinking about eating their future children. (Or at least she didn't mention it, unlike Sonju) |
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| Barbara somehow managing to escalate that conversation into such a vitriolic spiel just to establish her character seemed hamfisted, to say the least. Emma and Norman both have perspectives that have some reasoning to them, so I don't see any reason to portray one side with such a psychotic lense. |
  ｲ乇刀乇乃尺ﾑ乇 ╔⏤═⏤╝   ╚⏤═⏤╗☽ Shaded Horizon ☾ |
| Yes, the entire episode is just 100% talking with a total of four backgrounds |
| Es interesante, pero siento que definitivamente se redujo a ser un anime promedio. Es una pena, porque su piloto era espectacular y se sentía como algo fresco y original. |
| ~ Jiborjas |
Reply to HagePotPotato
this is all happening a little too fast for me
they reconnect with norman. and within a few minutes he's already telling them he has a drug that will wipe out all of demonkind. where did he make it? how did he make it? these are huge, immensely important questions. and they're just being...glossed over?
there's no way that barbara girl would've immediately realized what emma was thinking in that scene. realizing that she was eating demon meat is shocking and disturbing enough for emma to have an odd reaction. there's no way she'd instantly think that emma was anti-demon killing and that's why she came to speak to norman. i'm just not buying it
but norman's reaction to learning the little girl demon is still alive was quite something. he clearly has history with her. i wonder what it is. obviously those 2 demons have a lot they never told the children. the big one literally wants to eat humans, but never told the children that. so we KNOW there is a lot they're likely hiding. and we never found out what exactly that big one was doing with the leader of the farm er demon tracking team
i kind of understand how emma feels. wiping out an entire race/species SHOULD feel wrong. but acting like they can all just coexist is beyond silly. ray says he thinks it's impossible. and he points out how every demon loses their mind when they see humans. and he's right
they reconnect with norman. and within a few minutes he's already telling them he has a drug that will wipe out all of demonkind. where did he make it? how did he make it? these are huge, immensely important questions. and they're just being...glossed over?
there's no way that barbara girl would've immediately realized what emma was thinking in that scene. realizing that she was eating demon meat is shocking and disturbing enough for emma to have an odd reaction. there's no way she'd instantly think that emma was anti-demon killing and that's why she came to speak to norman. i'm just not buying it
but norman's reaction to learning the little girl demon is still alive was quite something. he clearly has history with her. i wonder what it is. obviously those 2 demons have a lot they never told the children. the big one literally wants to eat humans, but never told the children that. so we KNOW there is a lot they're likely hiding. and we never found out what exactly that big one was doing with the leader of the farm er demon tracking team
i kind of understand how emma feels. wiping out an entire race/species SHOULD feel wrong. but acting like they can all just coexist is beyond silly. ray says he thinks it's impossible. and he points out how every demon loses their mind when they see humans. and he's right
| @HagePotPotato I agree with you. Emma is being overly compassionate and unreasonable. |
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