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Dec 29, 2020 1:51 PM
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https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/woman-falsely-accuses-black-boy-221500418.html

Some STUPID FUCKING BITCH falsely accused a goddamn KID (14 years old) of stealing her phone....with ZERO fucking evidence!

She HARRASSED the kid and his father, even assaulting them.

The phone later turned up from a Uber driver....the moronic woman had left it behind.

@ Internet....I think you know what must be done about this stupid bitch.
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Dec 29, 2020 1:53 PM
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This reminds me about the time when a Karen accused and called a cops on a kid for "allegedly touching her but"
Dec 29, 2020 1:57 PM
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Never try to falsely accuse anyone without evidence. Otherwise it seems very petty and degrades your reputation. I understand how people have strong attatchments to their tech, but assault is too far over a assumed thief. I feel bad for the parent of the kid.
Dec 29, 2020 2:09 PM
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So...let's see.

She attacked a 14 year old....A MINOR.

@ New York.... you have LAWS against a fully grown ass adult attacking a minor correct?

Please, charge this woman to the FULLEST extent of said law!
Dec 29, 2020 2:19 PM
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the pandemic has cause Karen's to evolve.
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Dec 29, 2020 2:29 PM
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Welp... that is annoying as hell.
Dec 29, 2020 3:27 PM
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Thank god I have yet to have a Karen encounter... I'd be hard to stay calm, if I were to deal with a Karen...
Dec 29, 2020 3:37 PM
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"White woman", "Black girl". This just endorces that RACE is becoming something more important than the individual itself.
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Dec 29, 2020 5:17 PM
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Karote said:
"White woman", "Black girl". This just endorces that RACE is becoming something more important than the individual itself.

Gee, could it be because cops are a fuck ton more likely to kill and acuse black people and thoses white ofenders are taking advantage of that? Have you watched the video? There is even a clip of may, when that other woman called the cops because a black guy asked her to leash her dog in the park where dogs aren't alowed out of their leashs.

"I gona tell there's an African American man treatening my life"

If that isn't a threat of muder by cop them I don't know what it is.
heh.
Dec 29, 2020 6:30 PM

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Alex is the type of person on twitter who bitches about white people all day.
Dec 29, 2020 7:57 PM

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Kayle_x_Morgana said:
Alex is the type of person on twitter who bitches about white people all day.

Twitter?

My dude, who has time for that cesspool of nonsense?

And why would I bitch at white people?

They're not the enemy.

The Right-Wing on the other hand...

But sorry to disappoint, I don't have time for them either.

If I'm not working I'm sleeping, and If I'm not sleeping, I'm fapping.
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Karote said:
"White woman", "Black girl". This just endorces that RACE is becoming something more important than the individual itself.


I sometimes wonder why America in the past decided to use race as a system, like it is the whole reason this shit happens...
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Kayle_x_Morgana said:
Alex is the type of person on twitter who bitches about white people all day.
The funny thing is that he's probably white as well, it's like he wants to extinction if his kind lol
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Thank god I have yet to have a Karen encounter... I'd be hard to stay calm, if I were to deal with a Karen...

An ordinary Karen is your last worry, but if it was a racist Karen, it would be a different story, and not in a good way of course.

Imagine the following:
1. Not to say “Hi” or talk or be outgoing with people.
2. Keeping your hands in your pocket or get them busy on a smartphone, even your eyes too.

and you do that from the moment you leave your house, until you get to your destination and go back home. No socializing in real life (because for some reason, a Karen might pop in). Only online socializing.

No love, no hugs.
No Hi, no bye

Welcome to America
Dec 29, 2020 8:16 PM
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ALEX still cannot comprehend the meaning of the word "evidence," but at least he is not a "Karen."
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Karote said:
Kayle_x_Morgana said:
Alex is the type of person on twitter who bitches about white people all day.
The funny thing is that he's probably white as well, it's like he wants to extinction if his kind lol

I'm Latin, so no.


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ALEX still cannot comprehend the meaning of the word "evidence," but at least he is not a "Karen."

Huh? I'm genuinely confused, what are you talking about?

Is it that I said this woman accused the 14 year old kid of stealing her phone without any evidence?

Which is 100% true.
Dec 29, 2020 8:31 PM

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Dumb how she's doing it with no evidence, smh
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ALEX still cannot comprehend the meaning of the word "evidence," but at least he is not a "Karen."

I’m glad Alex was born a male.
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@--ALEX--
I didn't know you were a language lol

Joke a side, white latinos are still white, so yes?
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--ALEX-- said:
Karote said:
The funny thing is that he's probably white as well, it's like he wants to extinction if his kind lol

I'm Latin, so no.


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ALEX still cannot comprehend the meaning of the word "evidence," but at least he is not a "Karen."

Huh? I'm genuinely confused, what are you talking about?

Is it that I said this woman accused the 14 year old kid of stealing her phone without any evidence?

Which is 100% true.


Evidence can be anything that indicates that X is valid. It does not have to be sufficient or prove that X is the case. Being in the same area counts as evidence, so saying there is not any is blatantly false.

@Soverign Yeah, I guess it is circumstantial evidence. Thanks for the clarification.
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Its more circumstantial evidence. Though yes it is still evidence.

: evidence that tends to prove a fact by proving other events or circumstances which afford a basis for a reasonable inference of the occurrence of the fact at issue


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UPDATE

https://www.yahoo.com/news/woman-expected-charged-alleged-hotel-135850449.html

This PIECE OF SHIT woman WILL be charged.

GOOD!

Her identity has not been made yet....but hopefully SOON, so the internet can do what it does BEST!

I have ZERO mercy for scumbags like this bitch.

JUSTICE must be served!
Dec 30, 2020 6:28 PM

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I don't understand how these karens all look the same, the same 4 hairstyles, the facial structures seem to be copy-pasted as well.
Dec 30, 2020 7:17 PM

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Just so everyone knows...the SECOND the NYPD charges this woman....and they WILL, we (the Public) will KNOW who she is.

Thanks to the "Freedom of Information Act" anyone who is charged of a crime in the U.S has to have a report done on them.

The Public has every right to OBTAIN said report.

Soon, this woman will KNOW the wrath of the internet.
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--ALEX-- said:
Just so everyone knows...the SECOND the NYPD charges this woman....and they WILL, we (the Public) will KNOW who she is.

Thanks to the "Freedom of Information Act" anyone who is charged of a crime in the U.S has to have a report done on them.

The Public has every right to OBTAIN said report.

Soon, this woman will KNOW the wrath of the internet.


while i agree she should pay for assulting a minor. mob justice is no justice at all.
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Dec 31, 2020 4:04 AM

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reminds me of when a chick parked her car in front of a restaurant's door, the owner asked her politely to move her car on a near parking spot, the chick called the police and said that the owner insulted and harassed her. I am glad the police understood the situation, they fined the chick. there are idiots everywhere
Dec 31, 2020 10:51 AM

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Just another day in the land of the free people
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ughhh just another day in america
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America, land of the free? More like land of the fake virtue signalling oppressed. :((((
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Aaaaaand now we know who she is...

Miya Ponsetto 22 years old.

And surprise, surprise....she's been in trouble before.

>She was arrested in Beverly Hills for public intoxication on Feb. 28

Wait, there's more...

>on May 28, she was arrested for drunken driving near Calabasas, a city in Los Angeles County

Seems like this woman is a real piece of shit who can't hold her fucking liquor.

And now....she will be charged with battery and assault charges on a minor.

Folks....can you imagine a male (regardless of race) getting arrested for public intoxication, DUI, and assaulting a minor...

Can you fucking IMAGINE what the media and your average person would think of such a person?

THUG!

That's what this woman is....a THUG, who needs to serve a good amount of time behind bars to set her straight!

I guarantee you if she doesn't she's gonna keep doing stupid shit....ENTITLED individuals such as herself think she's ABOVE consequences.

Source:https://nypost.com/2021/01/01/accused-soho-karen-attacker-has-dui-public-intoxication-raps-report/
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Spite-based politics are my favorite kind of politics. Alex bringing back public lynchings when?
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I this point, I do not even know if Alex's posts are funny, sad, or frightening. Just how much media rage bait one needs to consume to abandon all sanity.

People literally want to burn others alive for trivial offenses. Imagine unironically encouraging and even glorifying retributive mob justice because of something like that.
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You can tell the girl is not right in her head just by looking at the sandals she's wearing. SANDALS WITH YOGA PANTS WHAT ARE THOSE?
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I this point, I do not even know if Alex's posts are funny, sad, or frightening. Just how much media rage bait one needs to consume to abandon all sanity.

People literally want to burn others alive for trivial offenses. Imagine unironically encouraging and even glorifying retributive mob justice because of something like that.

I'm sure for that 14 year old it was NOT trivial.

Having a White person accuse you of THEFT and then assaulting you.

Put yourself in HIS shoes my man.

How do you think that fucking kid felt?

And let's be 100% honest....why did she go after THAT particular kid?

His fucking race.

Yes...in the old days....WHITE people would accuse black men of fucking EVERYTHING with no evidence, we didn't have cameras back then.

NOW we do and NOW we have a little thing called "Karma" to all these fucking people who think they can act entitled and do whatever they please without suffering the consequences.

Imagine THINKING that assault, falsely charging someone of THEFT and possibly getting the police involved where no doubt they would've escalated shit to the point of tragedy is "Trivial".

My dude....I CAN NOT BE HAPPIER that we live in a time where people like this BITCH are now blasted all over the internet and JUSTICE is finally being done.
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--ALEX-- said:
149597871 said:
I this point, I do not even know if Alex's posts are funny, sad, or frightening. Just how much media rage bait one needs to consume to abandon all sanity.

People literally want to burn others alive for trivial offenses. Imagine unironically encouraging and even glorifying retributive mob justice because of something like that.

I'm sure for that 14 year old it was NOT trivial.

Having a White person accuse you of THEFT and then assaulting you.

Put yourself in HIS shoes my man.

How do you think that fucking kid felt?

And let's be 100% honest....why did she go after THAT particular kid?

His fucking race.

Yes...in the old days....WHITE people would accuse black men of fucking EVERYTHING with no evidence, we didn't have cameras back then.

NOW we do and NOW we have a little thing called "Karma" to all these fucking people who think they can act entitled and do whatever they please without suffering the consequences.

Imagine THINKING that assault, falsely charging someone of THEFT and possibly getting the police involved where no doubt they would've escalated shit to the point of tragedy is "Trivial".

My dude....I CAN NOT BE HAPPIER that we live in a time where people like this BITCH are now blasted all over the internet and JUSTICE is finally being done.


She did not assault him and stop mentioning skin colors in situations where they are not even remotely relevant.

False accusations happen all the time. If I suddenly try to reach for my phone and it is not where I usually keep it, and the only person around me is some 14-year-old kid smiling at me, I would pretty much assume the same thing. I do not care if the real culprit was the aliens or the deep state. I deal with probabilities, and technically speaking, the kid was at the wrong place at the wrong time. Sure, her approach might have been slightly inadequate, but not questioning him would have been the more irrational response.

Do not try to discourage women and people in general to call the police. The police are the ones supposed to solve such issues. That is like giving black people a free pass simply because they are black. If you are afraid he would end up like George Floyd, then do something to improve the police instead of punishing the citizens that ask for their help.

Not to mention how misleading those videos can be in general. You do not even know what happened before they started recording.
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You know....you could've EASILY beaten me at this issue....all you had to say is "Alex, I get that what occurred here is not cool, and this lady was 100% in the wrong, but there is no reason to go overboard in your actions to call for "Internet Justice" I don't agree with that"

That's literally all you had to say, and you WIN the moral high ground.

But, you've fucking done it now...

You are now defending the indefensible.

Holy shit dude....unlike this BITCH who had zero evidence of her accusation....THERE IS EVIDENCE of the assault, I literally can't believe you're saying there was no assault.

A Grown ass woman, tackled this kid to the ground....there is Video of that.

Let me guess tho....that's NOT assault in your eyes?



Nice fucking going!

Those security cameras are soooooooo misleading, aren't they?

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You know....you could've EASILY beaten me at this issue....all you had to say is "Alex, I get that what occurred here is not cool, and this lady was 100% in the wrong, but there is no reason to go overboard in your actions to call for "Internet Justice" I don't agree with that"

That's literally all you had to say, and you WIN the moral high ground.

But, you've fucking done it now...

You are now defending the indefensible.

Holy shit dude....unlike this BITCH who had zero evidence of her accusation....THERE IS EVIDENCE of the assault, I literally can't believe you're saying there was no assault.

A Grown ass woman, tackled this kid to the ground....there is Video of that.

Let me guess tho....that's NOT assault in your eyes?



Nice fucking going!

Those security cameras are soooooooo misleading, aren't they?



You literally posted a NEW video AFTER my post.

Okay, so she did assault him, and she HAD evidence that he was the culprit. Everything else I said (around 95% of my posts in this thread) remains the same and remains unaddressed.

I can beat you without even posting, but that barely matters in 2021 as people have a predetermined stance for everything.
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Um...."new video"?

It's already 2 days old.

Excuse me....What evidence?

Everything I've read and seen about this seems to show a woman hysterically accusing a black teen for no reason whatsoever.

And YES, I'm using the races because it appears to be a clear cut case of a bigot thinking a black teen stole something....cuz you know, that's what "Black people do"....

See....the fact that she accused a black teen of theft without ANY evidence whatsoever is a huge racist red flag.

This is racism 101 and we've seen it happen MANY times before....where White people accuse Black people (Men in particular) of crimes without any evidence.

For god sakes, even the Mayor of New York City agrees this is a racist action on the part of the woman.
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149597871 said:
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You know....you could've EASILY beaten me at this issue....all you had to say is "Alex, I get that what occurred here is not cool, and this lady was 100% in the wrong, but there is no reason to go overboard in your actions to call for "Internet Justice" I don't agree with that"

That's literally all you had to say, and you WIN the moral high ground.

But, you've fucking done it now...

You are now defending the indefensible.

Holy shit dude....unlike this BITCH who had zero evidence of her accusation....THERE IS EVIDENCE of the assault, I literally can't believe you're saying there was no assault.

A Grown ass woman, tackled this kid to the ground....there is Video of that.

Let me guess tho....that's NOT assault in your eyes?



Nice fucking going!

Those security cameras are soooooooo misleading, aren't they?



You literally posted a NEW video AFTER my post.

Okay, so she did assault him, and she HAD evidence that he was the culprit. Everything else I said (around 95% of my posts in this thread) remains the same and remains unaddressed.

I can beat you without even posting, but that barely matters in 2021 as people have a predetermined stance for everything.

Alex posted on December 30th that the NYPD were pursuing assault charges after viewing security footage from the hotel.

You claimed no assault had occurred today which is a factually incorrect statement. Even just viewing this thread you had a full 4 days to familiarize yourself with even basic follow up information to the incident which you neglected to do so. This video in particular that shows a news story referencing the security footage was available the day after the charges were announced giving you at least 3 days to search for the cited security footage.

You based your entire argument on just the POV video from the teen and actively refused to look into other information surrounding the incident before arbitrarily defending her and now lying on her behalf. The only thing that's changed now is you've also been challenged directly with the security footage.

Even your claim of "he was at the wrong place at the wrong time" is bullshit, he was in a hotel lobby with an IPhone, that's not a criminal offense. Having an Iphone is not evidence that it was her Iphone. It's not even circumstantial evidence because circumstantial evidence by definition requires a reasonable basis.
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Um...."new video"?

It's already 2 days old.

Excuse me....What evidence?

Everything I've read and seen about this seems to show a woman hysterically accusing a black teen for no reason whatsoever.

And YES, I'm using the races because it appears to be a clear cut case of a bigot thinking a black teen stole something....cuz you know, that's what "Black people do"....

See....the fact that she accused a black teen of theft without ANY evidence whatsoever is a huge racist red flag.

This is racism 101 and we've seen it happen MANY times before....where White people accuse Black people (Men in particular) of crimes without any evidence.


As if I follow the updates of each insignificant incident that befalls the US. You should have posted that two days ago then.

As I pointed out, being at the wrong place at the wrong time counts as evidence. Some people clarified it is circumstantial evidence, and needless to say, plenty of people have been convicted already based on such evidence. In this case, the boy might have been innocent but it was not like there was not any evidence suggesting otherwise.

Stereotypes are harmful, but not seeking help from the police just because the suspect is black and she might get harassed by an internet rage mob is not any better.

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You based your entire argument on just the POV video from the teen


That was the only video in this thread until a few minutes ago. I explained that already.

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Even your claim of "he was at the wrong place at the wrong time" is bullshit, he was in a hotel lobby with an IPhone, that's not a criminal offense.


Another internet lawyer. It is not a criminal offense, sure. We are talking about evidence indicating that her assumptions were correct.
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It should be illegal for white women to call the police on black men for any reason!

Wake up people, it's 2021!
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@149597871 you cannot convict people based on they were holding an iPhone. there are currently 100 million iPhone users in the United States. even as "evidence" for "assumption." it's super faulty.
there could be ten people in that lobby alone that own an iPhone. she acted out of line and outside of legal conduct. there is no reasonable basis for her actions. ironically the kid was more mature then the adult.
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I consider circumstantial evidence to be slightly better than hearsay. Useful for painting a picture of probability of odds when there is a lack of a smoking gun or concrete evidence.
A legal system and jury of peers can in fact convict someone of a crime they are not guilty of. Still doesn't mean the person was guilty in reality.
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@149597871 you cannot convict people based on they were holding an iPhone.


It depends, but what you are saying is correct for the most part. There is a difference between just having (any) evidence and having sufficient evidence, and I have never claimed she had the latter. However, it is incorrect to say she did not have the former.
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Um...."new video"?

It's already 2 days old.

Excuse me....What evidence?

Everything I've read and seen about this seems to show a woman hysterically accusing a black teen for no reason whatsoever.

And YES, I'm using the races because it appears to be a clear cut case of a bigot thinking a black teen stole something....cuz you know, that's what "Black people do"....

See....the fact that she accused a black teen of theft without ANY evidence whatsoever is a huge racist red flag.

This is racism 101 and we've seen it happen MANY times before....where White people accuse Black people (Men in particular) of crimes without any evidence.


As if I follow the updates of each insignificant incident that befalls the US. You should have posted that two days ago then.

As I pointed out, being at the wrong place at the wrong time counts as evidence. Some people clarified it is circumstantial evidence, and needless to say, plenty of people have been convicted already based on such evidence. In this case, the boy might have been innocent but it was not like there was not any evidence suggesting otherwise.

Stereotypes are harmful, but not seeking help from the police just because the suspect is black and she might get harassed by an internet rage mob is not any better.

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You based your entire argument on just the POV video from the teen


That was the only video in this thread until a few minutes ago. I explained that already.

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Even your claim of "he was at the wrong place at the wrong time" is bullshit, he was in a hotel lobby with an IPhone, that's not a criminal offense.


Another internet lawyer. It is not a criminal offense, sure. We are talking about evidence indicating that her assumptions were correct.

It was posted 4 days ago that she was being charged based on security footage. That's already in this thread, why would I repost it just because you can't be bothered to scroll back like 8 posts and confirm that information for yourself?

If you're going to make explicit claims such as "she did not assault him" which you directly said less than 2 hours ago you would have presumably checked to make sure that was true. But you didn't, you just flat out shot from the hip and lied.

Correct it was the only video in the thread but there is also context around the video that has been presented on multiple occasions. You ignored that context and pretended like that 1 video was the only notable information available about the incident.

As was established from the very beginning it was not sufficient to prove or even indicate her assumption. She had no idea when she lost her phone and wasn't even checked in as a guest at the hotel. She had just entered the hotel lobby and saw somebody with an Iphone. Instead of assuming it was their phone she claimed it was hers with no basis. That's not circumstantial evidence or even substantial evidence. It's not circumstantial evidence because it's not built on a reasonable basis, she had no idea when she lost her phone and there was no basis to even claim it was stolen (especially since it wasn't).
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GamerDLM said:
It was posted 4 days ago that she was being charged based on security footage. That's already in this thread, why would I repost it just because you can't be bothered to scroll back like 8 posts and confirm that information for yourself?

If you're going to make explicit claims such as "she did not assault him" which you directly said less than 2 hours ago you would have presumably checked to make sure that was true. But you didn't, you just flat out shot from the hip and lied.


Was the video posted in this thread or not? This is a rhetorical question.

Technically speaking, there is an "assault" in the POV video as well, but not significant enough to merit legal consequences. I thought the footage from the security camera ALEX is talking about shows the same things from a different angle since we did not have a source for that.

If you fail to present evidence then do not blame others for not addressing the evidence that you failed to present.

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As was established from the very beginning it was not sufficient to prove or even indicate her assumption.


I have never said it was sufficient. I was merely criticizing ALEX's claims that there is "zero" evidence.

Imagine this situation from her perspective. Suddenly, you realize your phone is missing and shortly after that you see a teenager with the exact same phone right next to you. You ask him to show it to you to see if it was indeed your phone, but he refuses. Circumstantial evidence suggests that he is the culprit, but there is no way for you to confirm that because you cannot force him to show you his phone. The only option is to call the police and resolve this matter peacefully.

I absolutely do not agree with going full bloodbowl on the kid, but criticizing people for calling the police in such a case is absurd. That is the most rational approach during such incidents, yet you suggest that "white" women should not call the police on "black" suspects unless they have hard evidence even though they have no legal way of obtaining the aforementioned hard evidence otherwise.

Absurd.
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It was posted 4 days ago that she was being charged based on security footage. That's already in this thread, why would I repost it just because you can't be bothered to scroll back like 8 posts and confirm that information for yourself?

If you're going to make explicit claims such as "she did not assault him" which you directly said less than 2 hours ago you would have presumably checked to make sure that was true. But you didn't, you just flat out shot from the hip and lied.


Was the video posted in this thread or not? This is a rhetorical question.

Technically speaking, there is an "assault" in the POV video as well, but not significant enough to merit legal consequences. I thought the footage from the security camera ALEX is talking about shows the same things from a different angle since we did not have a source for that.

If you fail to present evidence then do not blame others for not addressing the evidence that you failed to present.

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As was established from the very beginning it was not sufficient to prove or even indicate her assumption.


I have never said it was sufficient. I was merely criticizing ALEX's claims that there is "zero" evidence.

Imagine this situation from her perspective. Suddenly, you realize your phone is missing and shortly after that you see a teenager with the exact same phone right next to you. You ask him to show it to you to see if it was indeed your phone, but he refuses. Circumstantial evidence suggests that he is the culprit, but there is no way for you to confirm that because you cannot force him to show you his phone. The only option is to call the police and resolve this matter peacefully.

I absolutely do not agree with going full bloodbowl on the kid, but criticizing people for calling the police in such a case is absurd. That is the most rational approach during such incidents, yet you suggest that "white" women should not call the police on "black" suspects unless they have hard evidence even though they have no legal way of obtaining the aforementioned hard evidence otherwise.

Absurd.

The yahoo link they later posted explicitly stated that the NYPD were pressing charges based on decisive security footage. That's literally them stating they were going to pursue legal consequences 4 days ago. You still are ignoring that link purely because it's "not a video".

There is a source stating it exists and then the next day there was a source displaying the footage. If you actually intended to challenge your preconceived notions you would have used the source stating it exists and then tried to verify the claim before spouting notably false claims several days later.

Information exists outside of a video format, nobody had to post the contents of the video in order to support the argument of whether assault charges were being pressed. You claiming that no assault had occurred, by your own admission here, was a verifiable lie based on just the POV video.


If evidence is insufficient to present any reasonable scenario then it's not evidence. If you are investigating a murder but you find a bullet on a shooting range 3 miles away from the wrong gun type then that's not "evidence". She had just recently arrived at a hotel from an uber, didn't check her belongings and wildly jumped to conclusions based on nothing. The teenager was also with his father and actively using the phone, 2 things a culprit wouldn't do just based on basic logic (have a witness and display the item blatantly). Note I used the phrase witness because she also had no reason to assume they were relatives.

Her first instinct should have been to check her belongings and the locations she had recently been (like the uber), assuming anybody in the hotel she just arrived at stole her belongings is at best extremely paranoid. She didn't call the police and lied about what occurred when later questioned (she said the teenager attacked her).

No I'm suggesting people should take a take a moment to think rationally regardless of who they are or who they're interacting with before jumping to extremes.
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GamerDLM said:
The yahoo link they later posted explicitly stated that the NYPD were pressing charges based on decisive security footage.


Was the footage posted in this thread or not? It was pointless to argue that it was "decisive" if we could not see it.

In current events, we discuss what is in the title and OP. We are not obliged to do our own research because of someone else's incompetence or laziness.

GamerDLM said:
You claiming that no assault had occurred, by your own admission here, was a verifiable lie based on just the POV video.


An assault that merits legal consequences is what I said. No such thing occurred in the POV video. I also used the phrase "technically speaking."

GamerDLM said:
If evidence is insufficient to present any reasonable scenario then it's not evidence.


That is not how it works, unfortunately. Evidence is always evidence, even if it does not prove that something is the case. You are confusing proof and evidence.

GamerDLM said:
...assuming anybody in the hotel she just arrived at stole her belongings is at best extremely paranoid. She didn't call the police and lied about what occurred when later questioned (she said the teenager attacked her).


I said her actions were a bit inadequate and that I do not agree with her assaulting the boy. Do not change the topic with false claims.

My point is that the right thing to do in that situation is to call the police. If the boy was cooperative and showed her his phone, all of that could have been easily prevented. However, since he refused, she should have called the police right away. She was likely pressured by time. If she tried to recall all places she has been to that day, the suspect could have escaped by the time she had reached a conclusion.
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Ah yes, another day when Karen's continue to be annoying and another example of when the first amendment goes too far...and another day when black people can't live without be accused of some shit.

"white women are the white men of women" jk but still fuck Karen's
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God damn, another gay thread upon us.
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ughhh just another day in america


Funny because Europe is extremely racist. Now it's just not as open.
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