Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
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Sep 3, 2020 4:24 AM
#301
Laplace_kun said: Emillian said: Laplace_kun said: That's a weird interpretation. It was mentioned that entering a witch's tea party is very difficult. And he grasped that little chance he had to ask questions. And Echidna clearly hinted that she will recieve 'payment' for all the help she's giving. It's not an infodump at all. Satella had a good reason for appearing; use your brain a bit; I didn't even read the sauce to guess why. Whether every single girl is a waifu or not is upto the viewer's standards. I see eccentric and grey characters. Loli or milf isn't the catch. Don't try man...he is known outta here for trashtalking this series without even being able to understand whats going on or at least try and listen to others. Everytime he talks about one episode is like he has no context and sounds like he only watched that particular episode forgetting all the background and the context behind it. And other times is just straight up nonsense, impossible actions that "should" be able to be done but is just bullocks or other "viewer shaming" stuff because apparently having some nice looking characters with some funny and comedic personalities is a crime nowadays and everything must be 100% serious. So just a friendly advice..don't try :/ I just wanted to point out the obvious trashtalk. Anyways thanks for your advice. There are many people out there acting the clown, hating on an anime inspite of 'watching' deep into it just because they think it's cool, or for some twisted enjoyment. I have no obligation or time to entertain such people; off to the block list they go... On a different context, appa rently the snake mentioned in this episode appeared in Frozen Bonds. Is it? I remember a monster or two, but not too clearly. Because i don't wanna risk with these "spoilers" (even tho is not a spoiler is just some trivia, I will hidden the answer so i won't be accused by someone randomly if that will be the case) Nope, the serpent will come I think in the arc 6 that being a mid-late 3rd season. The thing that appeared in the Frozen Bond was actually his poison named the Black Water |
Ushiromiya Battler, right now, on this island, no one exists except for you. You're the only one alive in this island. However I'm here right now, and i'm about to kill you. Who... am I? |
Sep 3, 2020 4:29 AM
#302
Emillian said: Actually Rieri is voicing Emilia and Satella too but we will find out clearly later on what actually happened while Subaru was "having fun" with those wild girls lol. Maybe Satella didn't like the way Subaru "stabbed her back" while confessing to Echidna but we can't be sure about that yet or even know that Satella actually knows what they were talking there. Hope we will know that soon. Actually, I don't think Satella can "hear" per se what they were talking about in Echidna's realm, not even know they ever mentioned RbD. But at the same time Echidna has control over Emilia's trial and that handkerchief has to have some significance in her dream when the last run was different (she probably used it as catalyst to lure out Satella out of Subaru with strong 'love' emotions (Petra's affection towards Subaru). Satella is witch of envy for reason. The fact that Subaru wasn't there to embrace Emilia was probably all it took for Satella to escape Subaru's body and posses Emilia, her rightful vessel. The motivation is to kill any love rivals (Petra, Rem) so he headed straight for the manor. Also, that would mean breaking though Emilia's shell was Echidna's goal from the start, even more when she specifically mentioned Emilia's so weak (or rather too strong) to do that. And even more interesting though - now that Satella left Subaru's body, he could be unknowingly and temporarily without RbD ability which could prove fatal. Would be interesting if for once, Emilia was the one who used it to save HIM. |
Sep 3, 2020 4:51 AM
#304
SongstressSL said: ___Greed said: I seriously don't get why some people hate this anime. some people giving 1/5 rating to this amazing episode..like seriously? I sit in a discord with people who hype this show up to no end, calling every fart that subaru makes "character development" and every exposition that doesn't move anything along "plot". So to be honest, I actually understand why people might hate this show -- I myself am actually put off the more episodes I watch, though I wouldn't say I hate the show or the episodes. (I've seen way worse writing, way worse premises, and way worse shows) To better explain it to someone who loves this show, I guess it could be said that those who criticize the show feel their (often valid) criticism gets ignored by (sheer) fanboyism. Here's an example: critic: "the problem with this show is, the main character never learns the most important lesson with each of his deaths -- he never trains to become physically stronger to better handle threats and he's basically repeatedly dying until he bruteforces the outcome that is least undesireable. It's like watching someone play Fate Stay Night, the visual novel and if you know something is the wrong choice to pick, you just pick the next one the next time you load the save file. Thus, pretty much any inserted character in his place with return by death can move the plot along and accomplish the same thing he's done. The show's not terrible, but you can't write an epic if your main character is a self insert pleb." fanboy: "but you're wrong! He's awesome and it's all because of him that the plot moves at all! And he's relatable! Also, the premise is one of a kind and the side characters are soooo coool! Like, I love Emilia, and Echidna! How can you hate on this show??" critic: (man, you just ignored everything I said...) okay i get it what u r trying to say...and i agree with you a little about mc being a self insert pleb but he was even worse in the s1 but in s2 he improved a lot and you gotta admit it...and this story is way too long so if our mc get a big push right at the beginning then what's the point...i mean give it some time he will get stronger gradually and he will get powers as well...and an anime isn't all about mc..and another thing is yes re:zero gets so much recognition for its vast amount of waifus but it also has an engaging stories, characters, mysteries and white fox doing a great job with music and animation..VAs are good as well imo. still i get your reasons for not liking this series |
Sep 3, 2020 5:11 AM
#305
| Man, these witches are an eccentric lot, aren't they? And, at least based on what Daphne said, it seems that most of them generally meant well with whatever they did, only for their actions to have serious unintended consequences for the world. Echidna is still very difficult to get a read on and, despite all the help she's given Subaru so far, I still find myself wary of her. Perhaps the thing she'll tell him next time they meet will lean more towards that, but whatever happens there the situation in the Sanctuary upon Subaru's return raises some red flags. Can it really be a coincidence that Satella appeared in a physical form after Subaru pays Echidna's price and wakes up from her tea party? More than that, can it really be a coincidence that Emilia is nowhere to be found when Satella appears, and that they share a VA (I'm currently leaning towards a possession theory regarding that, but we'll see where it goes)? And then that post-credits stinger, confirmation that Roswaal not only has a "true" Gospel like Beatrice but also knows about Subaru's powers. Also, I know it's not strictly relevant to Subaru's current situation, but I think it would have been prudent to also ask Daphne about the Black Serpent during their conversation, given that it's bound to come up sooner or later. |
Sep 3, 2020 5:55 AM
#307
Sep 3, 2020 6:12 AM
#308
Araphaenon said: I have read the WN but I say to you: please don't spoil anime only watchers. Use spoiler tags at least. Dude... that is not a spoiler, the possession of the body is a speculation of mine because of the seiyuu + what petelguese said back then in season 1. |
Sep 3, 2020 6:12 AM
#309
| So Subaru's powers are of the Witch of Envy, hm?.. Well, nice to hear it clear.. If it is the truth, of course.. These witches are a bit weird, I guess.. But if they're spending enormous amount of time just in that one place.. They could have been bored really, and came up with all kinds of chuuni ideas for their entertainment, I guess.. So now we have mix of bunnies, Elsa and Witch of Envy to deal with?.. Just how are we going to fix everything?.. ;D And why did Subaru make assumption that Witch of Envy is also heading to the mansion?.. Intuition, I guess?.. |
Sep 3, 2020 6:19 AM
#310
| Echidna certainly seems to be the most "normal" witch we've seen so far after this episode. It was pretty interesting, and amusing with the way that the other witches greeted him, with Typhon (a loli) breaking Subaru before she was replaced by Minerva (tsundere beauty), who fixed him up. Only after that, did Daphne (another loli) appear. It seems that Daphne's intentions for creating the 3 great mabeasts wasn't all evil, but in reality, the result is completely different. It's a shame that Subaru didn't ask about the serpent, but at least he got good info about how to take down the great rabbit when he faces off with it again. Each time Subaru visits Echidna's tea party, it gets harder and harder for him to come back in the future. I do hope he sees her again, which I think is almost certain at this point, as their interactions between the two are awesome. ^_^ Things got all grusome when Subaru came back for real. Not only did Emilia vanish, but he was greeted with the disturbing sight of the witch of envy, Satella herself. Not only does her appearance looks reminiscent of Emilia, but her voice has the same VA, too. That's certainly interesting... Aside from that, it was Garfiel's turn to save Subaru from death this time, which is a bit ironic considering what Garfiel did in the previous episode. Now Subaru is in a battle against time to try and stop Satella from leaving the barrier, as her goal is to get to the mansion. Not only that, but the post-credits scene with Roswaal gives us confirmation that he knows what Subaru's powers really are, which makes the last words he spoke at the end even more powerful. Also take note that he was holding a gospel of his own, too. Overall, this was another excellent episode, considering the good chunk of info that we got about the great mabeasts, the witches and also Satella herself. Bring on the next episode! =3 |
Sep 3, 2020 6:22 AM
#311
| Good lord, I didn't think that this would be possible, but this season is even more intense than the first one. Really looking forward for every new episode every week, especially the last few episodes gave so many answers to some questions. |
Sep 3, 2020 6:35 AM
#312
| Satella's scene was amazing. Disposing of the great rabbit sounds extremely difficult taking into account what the witches have said. This time Garfiel ended up saving Subaru, I love how unpredictably he acts in each reset LMAO I wonder if the post-credits scene is basically confirming that Roswaal knows of Subaru's return by death ability. |
Sep 3, 2020 6:41 AM
#313
| Great episode, i can't wait what subaru gonna do to survive this loop |
Sep 3, 2020 6:41 AM
#314
Sep 3, 2020 6:53 AM
#315
Mich666 said: Emillian said: Actually Rieri is voicing Emilia and Satella too but we will find out clearly later on what actually happened while Subaru was "having fun" with those wild girls lol. Maybe Satella didn't like the way Subaru "stabbed her back" while confessing to Echidna but we can't be sure about that yet or even know that Satella actually knows what they were talking there. Hope we will know that soon. Actually, I don't think Satella can "hear" per se what they were talking about in Echidna's realm, not even know they ever mentioned RbD. But at the same time Echidna has control over Emilia's trial and that handkerchief has to have some significance in her dream when the last run was different (she probably used it as catalyst to lure out Satella out of Subaru with strong 'love' emotions (Petra's affection towards Subaru). Satella is witch of envy for reason. The fact that Subaru wasn't there to embrace Emilia was probably all it took for Satella to escape Subaru's body and posses Emilia, her rightful vessel. The motivation is to kill any love rivals (Petra, Rem) so he headed straight for the manor. Also, that would mean breaking though Emilia's shell was Echidna's goal from the start, even more when she specifically mentioned Emilia's so weak (or rather too strong) to do that. And even more interesting though - now that Satella left Subaru's body, he could be unknowingly and temporarily without RbD ability which could prove fatal. Would be interesting if for once, Emilia was the one who used it to save HIM. I don't think Satella can "leave" Subaru's body because she wasn't "there" in the first place. As we know from the first season (betty's discussion) we know that she was sealed 400 years ago but because of her overwhelming power she can still affect or interact with some individuals or elements of nature but not that much. Subaru's curse is like a trigger button...when he talks he get BONKED and not generally she being inside him but rather a tag that was put upon him. But still we don't know if he dies now he will safely return to that point or Satella would stop him or anything else...that's a very tricky situation indeed. |
Ushiromiya Battler, right now, on this island, no one exists except for you. You're the only one alive in this island. However I'm here right now, and i'm about to kill you. Who... am I? |
Sep 3, 2020 7:12 AM
#316
| Bunch if talking and drinking tea, but at least a we now know what Return to death is. Guess Satella will soon be a new waifu for Subaru with her I love you repeat |
Sep 3, 2020 7:14 AM
#317
Emillian said: Because i don't wanna risk with these "spoilers" (even tho is not a spoiler is just some trivia, I will hidden the answer so i won't be accused by someone randomly if that will be the case) Nope, the serpent will come I think in the arc 6 that being a mid-late 3rd season. The thing that appeared in the Frozen Bond was actually his poison named the Black Water I think we will see it during Emilia's trial. It was only mentioned but I think anime will show something. |
Sep 3, 2020 7:19 AM
#318
Emillian said: Laplace_kun said: Emillian said: Laplace_kun said: That's a weird interpretation. It was mentioned that entering a witch's tea party is very difficult. And he grasped that little chance he had to ask questions. And Echidna clearly hinted that she will recieve 'payment' for all the help she's giving. It's not an infodump at all. Satella had a good reason for appearing; use your brain a bit; I didn't even read the sauce to guess why. Whether every single girl is a waifu or not is upto the viewer's standards. I see eccentric and grey characters. Loli or milf isn't the catch. Don't try man...he is known outta here for trashtalking this series without even being able to understand whats going on or at least try and listen to others. Everytime he talks about one episode is like he has no context and sounds like he only watched that particular episode forgetting all the background and the context behind it. And other times is just straight up nonsense, impossible actions that "should" be able to be done but is just bullocks or other "viewer shaming" stuff because apparently having some nice looking characters with some funny and comedic personalities is a crime nowadays and everything must be 100% serious. So just a friendly advice..don't try :/ I just wanted to point out the obvious trashtalk. Anyways thanks for your advice. There are many people out there acting the clown, hating on an anime inspite of 'watching' deep into it just because they think it's cool, or for some twisted enjoyment. I have no obligation or time to entertain such people; off to the block list they go... On a different context, appa rently the snake mentioned in this episode appeared in Frozen Bonds. Is it? I remember a monster or two, but not too clearly. Because i don't wanna risk with these "spoilers" (even tho is not a spoiler is just some trivia, I will hidden the answer so i won't be accused by someone randomly if that will be the case) Nope, the serpent will come I think in the arc 6 that being a mid-late 3rd season. The thing that appeared in the Frozen Bond was actually his poison named the Black Water Umm yes that would definately be a spoiler. Not sure why you dont understand that if it hasn't happened in the show yet it is considered a spoiler. Trivia my ass. Just stop. It would be really great if all the LN/WN people had a place to discuss the show other than the primary thread each week. A sub thread would be good. It seems people are incapable of keeping themselves contained when they feel they have info others do not. They feel the need to throw it out there reguardless of someone asking or not. Or some people like being an ass and spoiling things for other people just because they can. |
Sep 3, 2020 7:22 AM
#319
mozgow said: Emillian said: Because i don't wanna risk with these "spoilers" (even tho is not a spoiler is just some trivia, I will hidden the answer so i won't be accused by someone randomly if that will be the case) Nope, the serpent will come I think in the arc 6 that being a mid-late 3rd season. The thing that appeared in the Frozen Bond was actually his poison named the Black Water I think we will see it during Emilia's trial. It was only mentioned but I think anime will show something. Oh...well that's a surprise...i though we will gonna see it later but i don't mind....the faster the better :D |
Ushiromiya Battler, right now, on this island, no one exists except for you. You're the only one alive in this island. However I'm here right now, and i'm about to kill you. Who... am I? |
Sep 3, 2020 7:23 AM
#320
| Damn, Satella loves Subaru so much she brought him to her world and gave him return by death powers. The new witches introduced are very interesting, they're not bad but they're not entirely good either. As seen with Daphne her intentions are kinda good I guess but, the methods not so much. They have their own twisted reasoning behind things and I am looking forward to find out more about them. That scene when Satella appeared was scary damn, they really did well showing how fucking terrifying the witch of envy is. And Garfiel once again doing unexpected, can't tell anymore what's he going to do next. And damn Roswaal, we had our suspicions but does that confirm he knows about Subaru's return by death? |
Sep 3, 2020 7:28 AM
#321
sKyBlazer08 said: Damn, Satella loves Subaru so much she brought him to her world and gave him return by death powers. The new witches introduced are very interesting, they're not bad but they're not entirely good either. As seen with Daphne her intentions are kinda good I guess but, the methods not so much. They have their own twisted reasoning behind things and I am looking forward to find out more about them. That scene when Satella appeared was scary damn, they really did well showing how fucking terrifying the witch of envy is. And Garfiel once again doing unexpected, can't tell anymore what's he going to do next. And damn Roswaal, we had our suspicions but does that confirm he knows about Subaru's return by death? I would say yes it confirms it. But every time I think that, the next episode or 2 proves me to be dumb. Best bet is to just wait and see how it evolves up ahead. |
Sep 3, 2020 7:33 AM
#322
Usaka_ said: Emillian said: Laplace_kun said: Emillian said: Laplace_kun said: That's a weird interpretation. It was mentioned that entering a witch's tea party is very difficult. And he grasped that little chance he had to ask questions. And Echidna clearly hinted that she will recieve 'payment' for all the help she's giving. It's not an infodump at all. Satella had a good reason for appearing; use your brain a bit; I didn't even read the sauce to guess why. Whether every single girl is a waifu or not is upto the viewer's standards. I see eccentric and grey characters. Loli or milf isn't the catch. Don't try man...he is known outta here for trashtalking this series without even being able to understand whats going on or at least try and listen to others. Everytime he talks about one episode is like he has no context and sounds like he only watched that particular episode forgetting all the background and the context behind it. And other times is just straight up nonsense, impossible actions that "should" be able to be done but is just bullocks or other "viewer shaming" stuff because apparently having some nice looking characters with some funny and comedic personalities is a crime nowadays and everything must be 100% serious. So just a friendly advice..don't try :/ I just wanted to point out the obvious trashtalk. Anyways thanks for your advice. There are many people out there acting the clown, hating on an anime inspite of 'watching' deep into it just because they think it's cool, or for some twisted enjoyment. I have no obligation or time to entertain such people; off to the block list they go... On a different context, appa rently the snake mentioned in this episode appeared in Frozen Bonds. Is it? I remember a monster or two, but not too clearly. Because i don't wanna risk with these "spoilers" (even tho is not a spoiler is just some trivia, I will hidden the answer so i won't be accused by someone randomly if that will be the case) Nope, the serpent will come I think in the arc 6 that being a mid-late 3rd season. The thing that appeared in the Frozen Bond was actually his poison named the Black Water Umm yes that would definately be a spoiler. Not sure why you dont understand that if it hasn't happened in the show yet it is considered a spoiler. Trivia my ass. Just stop. It would be really great if all the LN/WN people had a place to discuss the show other than the primary thread each week. A sub thread would be good. It seems people are incapable of keeping themselves contained when they feel they have info others do not. They feel the need to throw it out there reguardless of someone asking or not. Or some people like being an ass and spoiling things for other people just because they can. 1. Is marked with spoiler and because i talked with him he should decide if he wanna find out or not....and yes its JUST TRIVIA and the name was mentioned in the Frozen Bonds and what that black moisture does to the world, hell it was in the movie as a great inconvenience and it was actually mentioned who produced that thing and the name of it isn't important in any kind of way (that's why is trivia lol) 2.I don't read the LN/WN but its not that relevant so whatever. 3. It got spoiler tag, is not even a "spoiler" but because of cases like that (huh what a coincidence) i marked it with spoiler and if u risked that sry but is not my problem, I think you are able to read "spoiler" tag in any case. :/ PS: Oh and hope u did read this part before pushing that button (if u really did that): "will hidden the answer so i won't be accused by someone randomly if that will be the case" :) |
Ushiromiya Battler, right now, on this island, no one exists except for you. You're the only one alive in this island. However I'm here right now, and i'm about to kill you. Who... am I? |
Sep 3, 2020 7:48 AM
#323
swirlydragon said: Well then I am glad Satella took care of her (not a spoiler, it was stated by Beatrice in season 1 that Satella devoured all witches) Also echidna said aswell "the witch of envy that killed all other witches" |
Sep 3, 2020 7:49 AM
#324
Faryd said: lapine05 said: it wasn't in the LNtoo bad they didnt adapt subaru eating his fingers from hunger Is there a way to read the LN in english? so far i seen the ln's english official version to be like behind anime |
Sep 3, 2020 8:16 AM
#325
champu said: Faryd said: lapine05 said: too bad they didnt adapt subaru eating his fingers from hunger Is there a way to read the LN in english? so far i seen the ln's english official version to be like behind anime Actually the LN English official version is at Volume 13, and will be releasing Volume 14 next month, and 15 in February. For context the anime just finished adapting Volume 11, and this cour will end with them adapting Volume 12 |
Sep 3, 2020 8:16 AM
#326
| What a revealing episode, yet I still have many questions. It was great to see some of the other witches, Minerva sure was hilarious and unexpected ^^ Can't wait for the next episode, this one was great! |
Sep 3, 2020 8:16 AM
#327
champu said: Yeah you can buy them from Amazon, The LN's english version is in volume 13 while the anime just started volume 12 and the first cour will probably conclude volume 12.Faryd said: lapine05 said: too bad they didnt adapt subaru eating his fingers from hunger Is there a way to read the LN in english? so far i seen the ln's english official version to be like behind anime |
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Sep 3, 2020 8:21 AM
#328
| "you thought you were alright sharing our secret to other witches behind me huh? nope i will kill those who are important to you Subaru-kun" -Satella, the Witch of ASMR im glad i watch this episode with headset feels like she is whispering me Kreygasm loli witches to be expected, im glad Echidna atleast different. Minerva is cute tho i like her and her Crazy Diamond ability. i wonder if we are going to see the Lust and Sloth witch this season? wow so Roswall does know Subaru's RBD |
zalapenoSep 3, 2020 9:06 AM
Sep 3, 2020 8:44 AM
#329
Sep 3, 2020 9:00 AM
#330
champu said: Faryd said: lapine05 said: too bad they didnt adapt subaru eating his fingers from hunger Is there a way to read the LN in english? so far i seen the ln's english official version to be like behind anime Excepting Amazon you can also find them on Book Depository, i ordered some volumes from there and its amazing because of the free worldwide transport and their great prices. They got all the volumes that are globally released (recently all of these sites added volume 4 because for some reason it got extinct but now is back lol) |
Ushiromiya Battler, right now, on this island, no one exists except for you. You're the only one alive in this island. However I'm here right now, and i'm about to kill you. Who... am I? |
Sep 3, 2020 9:04 AM
#331
Marinate1016 said: Lots of changes from the WN in this episode, I know there’s going to be a lot of confused people lol. Loved the Magical Girl vibe they went with for Minerva. Satella looked so badass, they went full on wedding dress for her, dropping so many hints. And then that post credits scene from ending of volume 11. damn man I want to make my usual long analysis of the episode, as usual white fox did a great job, but there’s genuinely not much to comment on. Next week is going to be spicy though. Volume 11? With there being only 13 volumes (i think), does that mean the anime is almost caught up with the manga ? |
Sep 3, 2020 10:39 AM
#332
mrboko1234 said: LN is currently at volume 23, with volume 24 to be released on September 25th.Volume 11? With there being only 13 volumes (i think), does that mean the anime is almost caught up with the manga ? |
Sep 3, 2020 10:59 AM
#333
mozgow said: LN is currently at volume 23, with volume 24 to be released on September 25th. I just want to add (for those who don't know) that the English translations are much behind, with volume 13 released in July. |
Sep 3, 2020 11:29 AM
#334
| I've been thinking about a few things since watching this episode multiple times. Ok, here's my crazy theory about Satella's appearance. It sounds plausible, so I'm going to put it into spoiler tags, but I'm an anime-only, so please don't confirm or deny my theory. Anime-onlies are free to theory-craft with me though! I'm thinking that Satella took over Emilia's body to manifest physically. We know through Petelgeuse that Satella is in need of a vessel ever since she was sealed away. They wanted Emilia to be that vessel. But for some reason, Emilia wasn't ready yet. So why now? Perhaps when Subaru told Echinoda about RbD, Satella's unseen hand wasn't able to reach Subaru's mind/soul that was with Echidna in order to spark fear in him in Echidna's dimension. She was only able to get as far as his body that he left behind in the Sanctuary. Now, we also know that Satella can physically mess with Emilia's body when Emilia is in close proximity with Subaru when he talks about RbD (her heart was crushed in Episode 17 of S1). So, what if Satella reached out to warn Subaru about telling, found out he wasn't in there, sensed Emilia's SOULLESS/MINDLESS body right next to him (her soul/mind was still in the trial, Subaru wasn't there to snap her out of it), and took over her body from there? It wouldn't be the first time we've had a possession. If Petelgeuse can do it, why not Satella? Assuming that she gets more powerful after every RbD, by now she must be powerful enough to take over a body, even it's just for a short time. I mean, Emilia was nowhere to be seen, and she would be the first to try to wake up Subaru if there was danger, but she didn't. It would explain why Satella's face is conveniently partially covered. It would also explain why Satella was able to come now physically and not before. It would also explain, assuming Satella really was headed for the mansion to kill off Subaru's loved ones who aren't in close proximity to him, why Satella started going towards the mansion instead of dealing with Emilia first, who is the one Subaru loves the most. That's because she has already taken over her body (or she has already dealt with Emilia some other way)! If this all really is the case, then maybe Satella won't be able to leave Sanctuary like she intends to, because her vessel is trapped by the barrier. That's good, because there's no way Subaru can take her on now. Only problem with this theory is that it looks as though Satella is wearing something different than what Emilia was wearing underneath the black garb, specifically the choker necklace thing. Unless she conjured it out of darkness. Alright, now we know that the bunnies are attracted to mana. They are probably attracted to the miasma, which I'm assuming is Satella's mana. That would explain why all mabeasts are attracted to Subaru. So Subaru can be a lure and draw them out of the barrier, because he can cross the barrier. Problem is, he's too weak of a lure. We know that spirits and spirit arts users like Reinhard, Julius, Puck, and Emilia can draw mana from the area. Reinhard seems like it would be too easy a solution. Julius is back with Anastasia, probably won't go out of his way to help, Puck is AWOL, and Emilia is also too weak. Maybe Roswall can act as a powerful lure too, so I guess he's the most likely option, since he's strong, he can cross the barrier, and he is a significant mana source. Though, Beatrice is also a Great Spirit, and Roswall did say that she can help Subaru with the Sanctuary, and since he knows about the future, perhaps Beatrice is also a likely candidate for taking on the Great Rabbit. Very weird how Subaru called Daphne "Mother". Yeah, she created animals, so she's like their mother, but it still seems weird to say, even for Subaru. Let's not forget about Beatrice's Mother. Could Daphne be Beatrice's Mother? I can't really see it, but if Daphne can create animals, why not Great Spirits? Since all these Witches have met Subaru after the reset point, I wonder if there will be a new reset point. That would be bad if my theory about Satella is right. Or maybe the Witches will forget meeting Subaru, though I can't see that happening. Maybe since they're in a pocket dimension, they are unaffected by the resets? I couldn't shake the slight feeling that I heard about this Black Serpent before, so then I went back and realized that we did hear about it in the Frozen Bond OVA! How could I forget? I just recently watched it! Puck was saying how the black sentient sludge that acted like acid and consumed the guiltylowe mabeast was in fact the "venom of a black serpent". It must be one and the same! I mean, if a mass of venom from a black serpent can be such a formidable foe, it must've come from The Black Serpent Great Mabeast. Also, the way the venom acts like acid and just absorbs everything in its path without leaving a trace reminds me of gluttony. You know what's still bugging me? I don't want answers to this but, after seeing as how Daphne, the Great Rabbit, and the ulgarm want to eat Subaru because of the Witch's scent they find so tasty, why did the White Whale leave Subaru when it almost had him after he was pushed off by Otto? I bet we will get the answer to that soon. I'm still thinking about why Subaru is so loved by Satella. Does he remind her of someone from the distant past? Subaru is probably not the only one to be brought from another world, maybe someone made it there on their own and fell in love with her. And he died or something (maybe by the hands of the other witches?) because she's practically immortal and humans aren't, and now she has developed the power to bring her love continuously back from the dead. Also, the fact that Satella can have influence on Subaru's world to the point where she can pull somebody out from there and into her world is quite unnerving. Has she done it before? Will/can she do it again? Maybe use Subaru's parents as hostages? I don't know. Or maybe, since everyone in her world hates her guts, she needed someone from outside her world who wasn't satisfied in their world to love her. But that doesn't make sense, because she's alienating the Witch's Cult that actually loves her and making the person she loves hate her. But I guess that's her flaw, all the Witches seem to have major flaws in their characters. Edit: WOAH JUST HAD AN EPIPHANY What if we have this all wrong? What if Subaru originally belonged in Satella's world and died and reincarnated in his current world like in other animes? We have been thinking that Subaru was plucked from his own world for no reason, but he could be the reincarnation of Satella's love that died in her world! That would solve the mystery of why she loves Subaru so much. Might also explain his affinity for spirits because Subaru was one when he was reincarnated (that's probably a stretch). Or I could be so wrong, and I've just watched way too much Misfit of Demon King Academy and drew too much inspiration from Cautious Hero Another plausible theory incoming. Please don't confirm or deny. And about the Witch's Cult, I'm still not convinced that Satella created the group. Even though the Archbishops profess their love to her, Satella never struck me as the evil mastermind kind of person, even before her cameo this episode. In the beginning, I thought that each Archbishop was actually beholden to their respective Witch of Sin, and not actually Satella like we were led to believe, but that doesn't seem to be the case anymore. Satella and the rest of the Witches all seem to be childish and immature, and not capable of creating a Witch's Cult. Except for Echidna. Which is why I believe Echidna is the true leader of the Witch's Cult. Why? -She is the most adult-like and most mature out of the Witches, "normal" as Subaru calls it. Essential for bringing together a cult. -She also has the most knowledge in the world, usually the most knowledgeable people are the most scheming and conniving, so she fits the bill. -She's basically in charge of all the other Witches, so the other Witches couldn't have done it. -She also hates Satella with a burning passion, such that she wants to know about everything except Satella. That's big. So she has a motive to create the Witch's Cult. -She could've made the Witch's Cult just so that Satella's reputation is ruined, which is has been, because she's attributed to the Cult. For someone so starved for love, that's mental torture. -I believe Echidna had the Tome of Wisdom, perhaps when she was alive, and that's why she's mad at Satella for separating her from ultimate knowledge. And so she could've made the defective Gospels and sent them out to the Archbishops. They were defective because it's been a long time since she read the true future, so the future has been changed so much because of Subaru and perhaps other things that her knowledge from the Tome is outdated. -Also, if the Witch's Cult can find a vessel for Satella, she will regain physical form, which means that maybe Echidna can torture or do the same unto her that Satella allegedly did to Echidna. -Re:Zero is known for its twists and turns, so having the best girl actually be the final boss, and the final boss actually be best girl is not outside the realm of possibilities. -She is given a pretty big spotlight in the OP and especially in ED, so her role is huge. So she can't just be a support to Subaru. It's like the whole Re:Zero story revolves around her in a way. -Subaru looks at Echidna with a mighty rage in the PV when walking through all the dead bodies. She's got to be the most evil of the villains we've seen. The leader of the Witch Cult which did so much harm to Subaru and his loved ones would be deserving of such resentment. -It would explain why Echidna is so supportive of Subaru, because he's someone Satella loves and has her power. -She could've passed herself off of Satella if she needed to, because she looks almost the same, and in her world she could've changed her ears and eyebrows. -She seems to know her ways around the Authorities of the Sins, so it's just as likely that she could've given the Archbishops their Authorities. -Satella just doesn't seem to care about anyone else anymore besides Subaru. She doesn't care about anyone else loving her, like the Archbishops, so if she had created the Cult, then why wouldn't she acknowledge them or love them back? Why would she act like she has never seen them before? Because she hasn't. She is completely clueless about what's going on in the world, she is obsessed with Subaru and him alone. Echidna, however, isn't clueless at all. She could be the ghostwriter of the defective Gospels. She could be passing herself off as Satella. Edit: One other thing I just noticed. I may be wrong, because I'm no expert in colloquial Japanese, but in the last scene with Roswall when Roswall was talking about himself, he used the pronoun "watashi" to say "I", and I think that's a word only females use to describe themselves. Either watashi can be used for males and I'm dead wrong or something else is amiss, because we've seen Roswall in the bath, he's definitely not biologically female. I don't think it has anything to do with LGBTQ either. Does he have the mind of a female? Is he possessed by someone too? Or did he use magic to change his body? That would explain the makeup I guess? I can't think of any other explanation. I'm probably forgetting something, but that's enough for now. I'll keep editing this post. I think I've hit the nail on the head. |
PraiseThe1Sep 3, 2020 12:11 PM
Sep 3, 2020 11:48 AM
#335
| So... neutral witch, sadistic loli witch, loving and probably best witch and dark witch. Also THE witch, the point of the story appeared. This is still going great. A 9 up to now. Also, still don´t understand if Roswaal is good, bad, just wants to watch or just wants to go see a Olimpo-San Martín de Tucumán match. Really don´t get it |
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Sep 3, 2020 12:06 PM
#336
fullofregrets09 said: I haven't thought much about this but now that I've read it, I have an interesting theory that I can't talk about because spoilers :/You know what's still bugging me? I don't want answers to this but, after seeing as how Daphne, the Great Rabbit, and the ulgarm want to eat Subaru because of the Witch's scent they find so tasty, why did the White Whale leave Subaru when it almost had him after he was pushed off by Otto? I bet we will get the answer to that soon. One more thing. @Rob7 already posted this in the thread about skipped content, but Echidna knows nothing about Sin Archbishops. |
Sep 3, 2020 12:36 PM
#337
aboood40091 said: I know! I saw the clips a few others linked in this discussion. Although i think what donated the most to the feeling of ASMR was the way it was EQ’d heavily.McBaws said: Holy shit Satella needs to fuckin start an ASMR channel. I would instantly sub. Shit gave me goosebumps. It's Rie Takahashi. She did do ASMR a few times before (only short clips or even a few lines tho), which you can find on YouTube. |
Sep 3, 2020 1:15 PM
#338
| Wait, Satella is a yandere? I'm sorry fellow Echidna cult members but I have a thing for yanderes. Satella best girl! |
Sep 3, 2020 1:43 PM
#339
| This is hands down the best episode so far. Finally, the other witches show themselves. Even if it was a brief appearance, it was still cool to see all of them in action. Daphne gave Subaru a great hint to defeating the great rabbits. Just have someone with a high mana be bait. Then exterminate them all in one go Witch of Envy finally reveals herself but damn. Seeing her just gives me chills. Can't wait for the next episode. |
Sep 3, 2020 2:21 PM
#340
rakp333 said: Shirase-san said: Typhoon, Minerva and Daphne, finally appeared, so it was Daphne who created the White Whale and the Rabbit. And Satella also appeared! when she said "i love you" "i love you" "i love you" that gaves me goosebumps! Where did they end the episode? Did they complete the Satella sequence? or just started it? Episode ended after Garfiel saved him from Satella. There was also and end credit scene with Roswall. |
Sep 3, 2020 3:31 PM
#341
| The most interesting line from this episode is from Roswaal. More or less confirming my theory that Roswaal knows about Subaru's RbD |
Sep 3, 2020 3:48 PM
#342
| holy shit that post-credits scene tho |
Sep 3, 2020 3:49 PM
#343
| Even if Emilia is not Satella since she is also a half elf I am pretty sure she can get possessed. It might be something similar to when Subaru got possessed by Petelgeuse. Her body is missing so it all adds up. |
Sep 3, 2020 4:02 PM
#344
Araphaenon said: nice. I appreciate name dropping the best translations. Though I’ll probably try to stick to the LN, since it seems the WN isn’t really considered Canon. Don’t wanna be getting details that the author feels should be trimmed back and reworked. For example, I’ve heard of a.. thing daphne was supposed to do to Subaru in her scene this episode. But it wasn’t in the LN. and that may be because teppei decided that it was against her portrayal after having time to think on it. I’d like as few discrepancies as I can have in a story as lore heavy and complex as Re:zero lolcrystalblade13 said: my bad, I was flustered. It’s not all the readers who do it. And I’ll edit out the spoiler quote. You know I’ve actually bought all the U.S volumes of the LN myself and am reading along as I watch the episodes. And it’s hard not to read ahead. The LN is really well written. It was harder yet to stop myself from reading when the first season finished and nobody knew if there would be a second. :) And indeed I did not manage to do so, I ended up reading the WN translations as they came out. (They contain multiple extra scenes as compared to the LNs and are freely available, though translation quality varies. Translationchicken's are the most well done IMO, though he did not quite finish translating Arc 4. In any case, the anime follows the LN, a somewhat shortened and refined version, and you can catch up on any interesting extra bits from the WN after you're done with the anime & LNs.) |
Sep 3, 2020 4:32 PM
#345
crystalblade13 said: nice. I appreciate name dropping the best translations. Though I’ll probably try to stick to the LN, since it seems the WN isn’t really considered Canon. Don’t wanna be getting details that the author feels should be trimmed back and reworked. For example, I’ve heard of a.. thing daphne was supposed to do to Subaru in her scene this episode. But it wasn’t in the LN. and that may be because teppei decided that it was against her portrayal after having time to think on it. I’d like as few discrepancies as I can have in a story as lore heavy and complex as Re:zero lol The scene you refer to seems to have been removed just to make the story fit nicely into novels. If the concept of the scene wouldn't be canon anymore, Echidna wouldn't have told Subaru to be careful to look into Daphne's eyes, and the later wouldn't have said that Subaru should experience what it's like to be starving as the rabbits. However there are some bigger differences, such as the episode 6 being entirely different. In the WN, Ram didn't go with Subaru and he instead spent more time talking with Frederica (who wasn't displayed as suspicious to being with) about certain world building elements before going with Petra and her in the secret passage in Roswaal's office (the one where Subaru was instantly frozen when touching a door knob at the end of the tunnel), before being killed by Elsa alone (no mabeast involved this time). In these cases, it's really strange to watch the anime with such major changes. However, most of the changes are minor details that have been removed or added during the transition to the LN. Sometimes, I prefer the LN scenes (e.g. much more emphasis on Subaru's feelings in the last scenes of ep 8) and other times I prefer the WN ones (e.g. no crystal that conveniently teleports Subaru at the right place everytime he approaches the barrier). |
Sep 3, 2020 4:59 PM
#346
| I'm gonna say it, Re Zero season 2 is carrying this trashy summer season ngl. |
Sep 3, 2020 5:11 PM
#347
crystalblade13 said: nice. I appreciate name dropping the best translations. Though I’ll probably try to stick to the LN, since it seems the WN isn’t really considered Canon. Don’t wanna be getting details that the author feels should be trimmed back and reworked. For example, I’ve heard of a.. thing daphne was supposed to do to Subaru in her scene this episode. But it wasn’t in the LN. and that may be because teppei decided that it was against her portrayal after having time to think on it. I’d like as few discrepancies as I can have in a story as lore heavy and complex as Re:zero lol My view on that particular matter, in light of my knowledge of both the WN and the LN storyline, is that Daphne's power and what was revealed of her and her view on the world is still canon, but it was removed due to length constraints and some other technical reasons. We see that the cue for Daphne to offer removing her blindfolds so as to let Subaru "understand" the hunger she and the Great Rabbit feel constantly in the WN the meeting with the witches happens over multiple occasions. The first conversation with Echidna (that comes to pass under slightly different circumstances) is far more substantial and in fact the meeting with Typhon and Minerva happens right then and there when Echidna lets Subaru meet them resulting in him calming down and realizing that Echidna is a far more reasonable person to have a conversation with. She purposefully doesn't let him meet with Daphne, which reluctance is also present here, and indeed that only happens after the rabbit incident. After Daphne does her thing causing Subaru to eat his own fingers due to sheer hunger, he needs to be healed again by Minerva (now a previously known character) who quickly jumps in, somewhat put off by Subaru once again getting in such a state. This was fine there since the previous occasion was long past, but with the LN streamlining the meetings with the witches, it would have made things repetitive. Hence, this specific scene was deemed less important than when Typhon breaks him apart, and it was omitted. Apart from a few minor changes, and some restructuring of events at the beginning, I could say the same about most other extras. There are even weird discrepancies when the LN illustrations clearly indicate something that was in the WN but was left out from the LN: notably, about the second trial. Without going into spoiler territory, in that case, the left-out parts are more "skipped" then "cut", they are assumed to be there in the LN's narrative, just not described in the text itself. These in particular are definitely worth checking out, I think, whenever you get there. The corresponding part in the WN would be from the very end of the 69th chapter all the way until the end of chapter 72. |
AraphaenonSep 3, 2020 8:38 PM
Sep 3, 2020 5:13 PM
#348
Xelecus said: As long as it stands out more than other anime this season, I don’t mind it airing in a trashy season, I welcome it. Give us exposure and money so that we can have a Season 3! I don’t want to wait another 4 years!I'm gonna say it, Re Zero season 2 is carrying this trashy summer season ngl. |
Sep 3, 2020 5:22 PM
#349
Sep 3, 2020 6:03 PM
#350
Rob7 said: “Until there's nothing left to use” FINALLY best boi Subaru REALIZEd that the Return by Death is suposed to be used like in ALL YOU NEED IS KILL! Btw, we can REALIZE that the OP of this season is a reference for this moment. What did you mean with "ALL YOU NEED IS KILL" ? |
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