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Jul 14, 2020 2:21 PM
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This is insanely speculative and silly, but here we go. Do you think that anime will eventually disappear? Not forever, but let's say at least for a few decades. Idk, maybe consumption will be largely restricted by laws in various countries, including japan, or anime will be declared illegal. Or a financial crisis/catastrophe in japan only, crashing the economy and country that hard that it will be thrown back into absolute poverty.

Are there any other scenarious you could think of? And how likely are the chances of that? Let me know.
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well some of them 'died' for awhile aren't they on the heyday of corona virus, lots of stuff got postponed
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Unless we experience a worldwide apocalypse that sets us back decades in technology, I think anime will continuously thrive alongside the ever-growing demand for entermainment media.
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Of course anything can die but this industry has survived multiple economic crashes, consumption of course can be restricted but that would just lead to different kinds of shows being made.

Anime and manga is increasingly becoming internationally popular that if said disaster would happen they studios and publishers would just be bought out. Or as we can already see other international distributors would just take their place (Donghua) catering to similar markets.

So no I don't see this entire form of entertainment dying unless there is some huge world changing disaster that hurts consumption of entertainment media. It could change and become less Japanese driven but not entirely die.
Jul 14, 2020 3:02 PM
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Not disappear but there might be a reduction in exporting it abroad, bringing us back to fansubs again.
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If the anime industry stops making girls with high waifu potential, yes.
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its not something which can be disappeared easily.
it has become a major part of japan and now its spreading to other countries as well.
long gone are the days when anime was just a small scale entertainment in japan.
now it has globalised
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It might be a matter of evolution rather than complete disappearance. When anime first gained a foothold in the world in the mid-late 1900s, it was a very different kind of medium than it is today, especially because non-Japanese cultures have influenced modern anime since its early phase. We may see the medium evolve into something different in the future, but of course we will still call it anime.
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Unlikely IMO. It survived the 90's so unless the world ends we should be good. Hopefully it doesn't die off while I live tho lol
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Seeing as how many anime fans there are in the world, I don't think it will die.
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the future of anime is Indie Anime imo especially that computer hardware and software technology like AI are improving and getting cheaper each year

you got AI in development for deepfake stuff from video, audio, to digital coloring and to even animation
Jul 14, 2020 5:23 PM

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No. I think anime will get even more popular.
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highly doubt it because there will always be a demand for it unless something apocalyptic happens that there are tons of things that we need to prioritize our time.
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i believe there was a thread like this one.. oh well.
i think there's a lot of comments here to describe why not, i will only add this, as long there's manga there will be anime, and that's not going to be anytime soon in the next decade, what's more, studios got tons of money from rating, as long japanese people will continue watching anime the studios going to produce more anime, since the anime/manga culture is so developed in japan and it doesn't seems to disappear.
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also China and South Korea is starting to develop their own brand of anime so Japan will have a competition sooner or later
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The Japanese Anime industry if the island suddenly imploded. As for anime in general, unlikely, Anime has so much influence in so many parts of the world that even if the industry imploded, it would still live on somewhere, whether it be the U.S., CHina, Korea, France(odly enough), etc.
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Not a chance. You'd have any group of people (or country) picking up, just as China and South Korea are catching up. Competition's not a bad thing though; more likely than not, it will result in better quality shows and that's what we're here for.
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Maybe in like 500 years or so. I doubt it's going anywhere in our lifetime though. Especially now that anime is growing more mainstream.
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I mean, it's not exactly impossible, right? Nobody foresaw COVID-19 coming and if you did, I hope you profited hard from the stock market. Who knows what the future holds?

From the current scope of things, it might be unlikely, but how many of us can accurately predict the future? It's like playing the stock market, you can have accredited experts go on CNBC and predict what's gonna happen, but they can't say with 100% certainty that scenario A will happen. You just don't know what's gonna happen.
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Atleast not anytime soon I imagine.
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It's not gonna happen. Anime is love, Anime is life.
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petran79 said:
Not disappear but there might be a reduction in exporting it abroad, bringing us back to fansubs again.


why do you think that exports will decrease?
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KaiserWilhelm2 said:
petran79 said:
Not disappear but there might be a reduction in exporting it abroad, bringing us back to fansubs again.


why do you think that exports will decrease?


I am not sure if this model will last or if it is another bubble ready to burst.
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The Japanese Anime industry if the island suddenly imploded. As for anime in general, unlikely, Anime has so much influence in so many parts of the world that even if the industry imploded, it would still live on somewhere, whether it be the U.S., CHina, Korea, France(odly enough), etc.


Armakan said:
Not a chance. You'd have any group of people (or country) picking up, just as China and South Korea are catching up. Competition's not a bad thing though; more likely than not, it will result in better quality shows and that's what we're here for.


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Of course anything can die but this industry has survived multiple economic crashes, consumption of course can be restricted but that would just lead to different kinds of shows being made.

Anime and manga is increasingly becoming internationally popular that if said disaster would happen they studios and publishers would just be bought out. Or as we can already see other international distributors would just take their place (Donghua) catering to similar markets.

So no I don't see this entire form of entertainment dying unless there is some huge world changing disaster that hurts consumption of entertainment media. It could change and become less Japanese driven but not entirely die.


Different topic, but would you consider animation produced in other countries as anime, as long as the style is similar? Kinda hard to find traits that identify anime but I think you know what I mean. If so, anime industry will probably life on even if japan collapses.

petran79 said:
KaiserWilhelm2 said:


why do you think that exports will decrease?


I am not sure if this model will last or if it is another bubble ready to burst.


I mean, it's certainly difficult to get all the rights, the process of exporting is an enormous effort. Anime dvds/blu rays are super expensive, I wonder what the sale numbers look like in US and europe. Must be somehow stable right know, since there are so many releases. Anime still airs on TV too.

I wonder if this "boom" is going to dissapear soon, anime has been hyped in the 2010s but maybe a new trend comes along.

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i believe there was a thread like this one.. oh well.
i think there's a lot of comments here to describe why not, i will only add this, as long there's manga there will be anime, and that's not going to be anytime soon in the next decade, what's more, studios got tons of money from rating, as long japanese people will continue watching anime the studios going to produce more anime, since the anime/manga culture is so developed in japan and it doesn't seems to disappear.


Sorry, I didn't know that it was already posted. I searched my title but got no results.

Like other commentators stated, we can never 100% predict what will happen; maybe japan goes crazy again and only allows propaganda anime ;).

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KaiserWilhelm2 said:
NG_Chloe said:
The Japanese Anime industry if the island suddenly imploded. As for anime in general, unlikely, Anime has so much influence in so many parts of the world that even if the industry imploded, it would still live on somewhere, whether it be the U.S., CHina, Korea, France(odly enough), etc.


Armakan said:
Not a chance. You'd have any group of people (or country) picking up, just as China and South Korea are catching up. Competition's not a bad thing though; more likely than not, it will result in better quality shows and that's what we're here for.


Different topic, but would you consider animation produced in other countries as anime, as long as the style is similar? Kinda hard to find traits that identify anime but I think you know what I mean. If so, anime industry will probably life on even if japan collapses.

TolkienFan365 said:
Of course anything can die but this industry has survived multiple economic crashes, consumption of course can be restricted but that would just lead to different kinds of shows being made.

Anime and manga is increasingly becoming internationally popular that if said disaster would happen they studios and publishers would just be bought out. Or as we can already see other international distributors would just take their place (Donghua) catering to similar markets.

So no I don't see this entire form of entertainment dying unless there is some huge world changing disaster that hurts consumption of entertainment media. It could change and become less Japanese driven but not entirely die.


No I personally wouldn't not because it's some elitist mindset but because when I talk about anime I am talking about the Japanese animation industry If people want to use that for the "style" (lots of "anime" styles) then some other term has to be used.. When I talk about anime getting more popular I am talking about Japanese produced shows getting more popular and seeing a rise in profits. Powerhouse might make stuff like anime for instance with Castlevania but the fact they succeed doesn't do anything for the anime industry at large.

It's like saying we should call Japanese American cartoons since a lot of the earliest designs or stuff like Tezuka was heavily influenced by American animation kinda like how the West is getting more influenced by anime now.

What I meant is that in the future this could become less easy to define if more foreign interests take interest in the Japanese animation industry and you see way more collaborations or foreign ownership as Japanese and foreign animation or properties become more tied together. if the industry did collapse they would be bought up to still keep production content or help work on stuff like Donghua. There is always going to be some Japanese animators as long as the country doesn't implode.
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TolkienFan365 said:
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Different topic, but would you consider animation produced in other countries as anime, as long as the style is similar? Kinda hard to find traits that identify anime but I think you know what I mean. If so, anime industry will probably life on even if japan collapses.



No I personally wouldn't not because it's some elitist mindset but because when I talk about anime I am talking about the Japanese animation industry If people want to use that for the "style" (lots of "anime" styles) then some other term has to be used.. When I talk about anime getting more popular I am talking about Japanese produced shows getting more popular and seeing a rise in profits. Powerhouse might make stuff like anime for instance with Castlevania but the fact they succeed doesn't do anything for the anime industry at large.

It's like saying we should call Japanese American cartoons since a lot of the earliest designs or stuff like Tezuka was heavily influenced by American animation kinda like how the West is getting more influenced by anime now.

What I meant is that in the future this could become less easy to define if more foreign interests take interest in the Japanese animation industry and you see way more collaborations or foreign ownership as Japanese and foreign animation or properties become more tied together. if the industry did collapse they would be bought up to still keep production content or help work on stuff like Donghua. There is always going to be some Japanese animators as long as the country doesn't implode.


I think this is a different debate, what defines anime and whatsoever. I think it's okay to call it japanese cartoon, since they call everything anime. I agree, what defines it is almost impossible to determine since there is so much to it.

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KaiserWilhelm2 said:


New-User-Name said:
i believe there was a thread like this one.. oh well.
i think there's a lot of comments here to describe why not, i will only add this, as long there's manga there will be anime, and that's not going to be anytime soon in the next decade, what's more, studios got tons of money from rating, as long japanese people will continue watching anime the studios going to produce more anime, since the anime/manga culture is so developed in japan and it doesn't seems to disappear.


Sorry, I didn't know that it was already posted. I searched my title but got no results.

Like other commentators stated, we can never 100% predict what will happen; maybe japan goes crazy again and only allows propaganda anime ;).


it seemed you have lacked of knowledge how cultures in the world comes and goes, as other said, the anime/manga culture survived couple of ages, maybe if an astroid crashes there will be danger of it, but only in danger.
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KaiserWilhelm2 said:
NG_Chloe said:
The Japanese Anime industry if the island suddenly imploded. As for anime in general, unlikely, Anime has so much influence in so many parts of the world that even if the industry imploded, it would still live on somewhere, whether it be the U.S., CHina, Korea, France(odly enough), etc.


Armakan said:
Not a chance. You'd have any group of people (or country) picking up, just as China and South Korea are catching up. Competition's not a bad thing though; more likely than not, it will result in better quality shows and that's what we're here for.


TolkienFan365 said:
Of course anything can die but this industry has survived multiple economic crashes, consumption of course can be restricted but that would just lead to different kinds of shows being made.

Anime and manga is increasingly becoming internationally popular that if said disaster would happen they studios and publishers would just be bought out. Or as we can already see other international distributors would just take their place (Donghua) catering to similar markets.

So no I don't see this entire form of entertainment dying unless there is some huge world changing disaster that hurts consumption of entertainment media. It could change and become less Japanese driven but not entirely die.


Different topic, but would you consider animation produced in other countries as anime, as long as the style is similar? Kinda hard to find traits that identify anime but I think you know what I mean. If so, anime industry will probably life on even if japan collapses.

petran79 said:


I am not sure if this model will last or if it is another bubble ready to burst.


I mean, it's certainly difficult to get all the rights, the process of exporting is an enormous effort. Anime dvds/blu rays are super expensive, I wonder what the sale numbers look like in US and europe. Must be somehow stable right know, since there are so many releases. Anime still airs on TV too.

I wonder if this "boom" is going to dissapear soon, anime has been hyped in the 2010s but maybe a new trend comes along.

New-User-Name said:
i believe there was a thread like this one.. oh well.
i think there's a lot of comments here to describe why not, i will only add this, as long there's manga there will be anime, and that's not going to be anytime soon in the next decade, what's more, studios got tons of money from rating, as long japanese people will continue watching anime the studios going to produce more anime, since the anime/manga culture is so developed in japan and it doesn't seems to disappear.


Sorry, I didn't know that it was already posted. I searched my title but got no results.

Like other commentators stated, we can never 100% predict what will happen; maybe japan goes crazy again and only allows propaganda anime ;).


Man, that's a difficult question. I'd like to think of anime as more of an art style than just the products of the Japanese animation industry, which is why I point out (and you do as well) that the industry will live on if even Japan were to disappear today. It's permeated society (think Pokemon) to an extent where you can't just erase it. As for whether other country's animation can be defined as anime, it might be worth re-examining the definition of anime. If you consider anime to be more than just the shows that we watch, then certainly, because as a culture it's more than just the various shows and manga that the Japanese produce.
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I don't see it happening for at least this decade. I don't wish for it to happen either.
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I don't think so. To be honest it's growing as we speak and will grow in the future as well because TV dramas and movies are becoming tasteless day by day as we speak. Personally i no longer watch TV dramas and movies(however i used to watch). However it will take time to grow..
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Anime is ded.
Time to go back to western cartoons 'n shiet.
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China will just buy over those anime studios.
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Well probably not anytime soon because it seems to be growing at a pretty good rate unless the world ends on December 31,2020
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If anything it looks like it has the potential to be the next marvel.
Sure laugh at me. The same people later got endgame to highest grossing movie of all time.
Though I agree, chances are pretty slim.
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Sorry, I didn't know that it was already posted. I searched my title but got no results.

Like other commentators stated, we can never 100% predict what will happen; maybe japan goes crazy again and only allows propaganda anime ;).


it seemed you have lacked of knowledge hoItw cultures in the world comes and goes, as other said, the anime/manga culture survived couple of ages, maybe if an astroid crashes there will be danger of it, but only in danger.


I am not an expert on culture or anything, that's why I stated right in the beginning that this is a silly question. Of course does it take a lot to literally wipe out such a large industry. There is a chance though, we never know what will happen. The biiggest thread doesn't even have to be a super big catastrophe, let's say someone will invent an entirely new form of entertainment that makes it obsolete.




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It won’t die but it might be murdered by politics.
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I don't think it will die at least in a long time. it generates money so people will do more and it's fun to watch so people will watch more. And with everyone being in their houses now, many people I know started watching anime. Viva el anime.
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If anything it looks like it has the potential to be the next marvel.
Sure laugh at me. The same people later got endgame to highest grossing movie of all time.
Though I agree, chances are pretty slim.


Well Worldwide it is already on the same level. Marvel is huge in america but not as much in other parts of the world.
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https://asiamedia.lmu.edu/2020/02/15/anime-streaming-showdown-how-netflix-falls-flat/

Also this. If Netflix shows profit losses because of their strategy, it will be like a domino effect because it is the most accessible platform to make Anime more popular worldwide.



Fans of anime will often turn to pirated sources due to both subscription costs and the fact that some shows are either not licensed for distribution through a media service website or are not simulcast. Simulcasting, or simultaneous broadcasting, refers to shows licensed by streaming platforms, with subtitles, and aired within 24 hours of airtime on television in Japan. Simulcasts are highly popular as a way to combat piracy; as fans are often willing to watch new episodes from the earliest provider possible, regardless of translation quality or the legality. In addition, series are typically turned over exclusively to their licensed distributors, resulting in hefty costs for fans who wish to go the legal way in watching series which are exclusively licensed by separate streaming services.

Netflix, one of the original pioneers in online streaming-on-demand media providers, has also co-produced and invested in several massively popular original titles, like Aggretsuko, Devilman Crybaby and Castlevania (2017). When it comes to ongoing animations aired weekly on Japanese television and even on Netflix’s own Japanese server, though, compared to most animation streaming sites Crunchyroll, Funimation, Netflix falls flat, as the company does not simulcast ongoing animations internationally which is considered an industry standard. Rather, shows licensed by the company are frequently added to international Netflix servers several months after the initial animation finishes airing.

While this strategy may allow time for Netflix to translate the content into several languages and prepare marketing campaigns, it has inadvertently been harmful, causing several highly promising animations to flop within the US market. One example is the 2018 award-winning studio Kyoto Animation’s anime ‘Violet Evergarden.’ The series was streamed internationally on a weekly basis during the Winter 2018 anime season, except in the United States of America and Australia, where the animation was made available only after the final episode had broadcasted. By the time the animation was released legally within the United States, the majority of interested— or impatient —fans had already watched the entire season through pirated sources, resulting in fewer overall views and reduced support for the original creators. Without proper advertising or the advantage of simulcasting, new Netflix anime releases often find themselves buried in content and ignored by potential audiences.

So, while Netflix has made anime more accessible to Western audiences, as witnessed in the reemergence in popularity of Neon Genesis Evangelion, added to the provider in 2019, the streaming services’ current strategy and competitive nature have drawn criticism from others in the industry. Notable critics include Funimation’s President Gen Fukunaga, who feels that Netflix’s fast-paced management has failed to do justice to the aforementioned classic animation, despite the company’s willingness to “…significantly overpay for something like Evangelion and outbid anybody by multiples, no matter what their ROI is.” When Netflix purchases the exclusive rights for a series and delays the release of the animation, the company isn’t just annoying their paying subscribers by keeping the show region-locked to the Japan Netflix server, but rather also directly harming the very creators who rely on overseas support. Should Netflix’s current strategy continue, the company’s attempts at becoming a major anime streaming hub will likely suffer reduced success despite the company possessing several exclusive licensing contracts for such upcoming animations as the recently concluded ‘Beastars’ and the currently airing cult classic ‘Dorohedoro.’ Simulcasting is clearly the future of anime globally, and Netflix is falling behind.
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https://asiamedia.lmu.edu/2020/02/15/anime-streaming-showdown-how-netflix-falls-flat/

Also this. If Netflix shows profit losses because of their strategy, it will be like a domino effect because it is the most accessible platform to make Anime more popular worldwide.



Fans of anime will often turn to pirated sources due to both subscription costs and the fact that some shows are either not licensed for distribution through a media service website or are not simulcast. Simulcasting, or simultaneous broadcasting, refers to shows licensed by streaming platforms, with subtitles, and aired within 24 hours of airtime on television in Japan. Simulcasts are highly popular as a way to combat piracy; as fans are often willing to watch new episodes from the earliest provider possible, regardless of translation quality or the legality. In addition, series are typically turned over exclusively to their licensed distributors, resulting in hefty costs for fans who wish to go the legal way in watching series which are exclusively licensed by separate streaming services.

Netflix, one of the original pioneers in online streaming-on-demand media providers, has also co-produced and invested in several massively popular original titles, like Aggretsuko, Devilman Crybaby and Castlevania (2017). When it comes to ongoing animations aired weekly on Japanese television and even on Netflix’s own Japanese server, though, compared to most animation streaming sites Crunchyroll, Funimation, Netflix falls flat, as the company does not simulcast ongoing animations internationally which is considered an industry standard. Rather, shows licensed by the company are frequently added to international Netflix servers several months after the initial animation finishes airing.

While this strategy may allow time for Netflix to translate the content into several languages and prepare marketing campaigns, it has inadvertently been harmful, causing several highly promising animations to flop within the US market. One example is the 2018 award-winning studio Kyoto Animation’s anime ‘Violet Evergarden.’ The series was streamed internationally on a weekly basis during the Winter 2018 anime season, except in the United States of America and Australia, where the animation was made available only after the final episode had broadcasted. By the time the animation was released legally within the United States, the majority of interested— or impatient —fans had already watched the entire season through pirated sources, resulting in fewer overall views and reduced support for the original creators. Without proper advertising or the advantage of simulcasting, new Netflix anime releases often find themselves buried in content and ignored by potential audiences.

So, while Netflix has made anime more accessible to Western audiences, as witnessed in the reemergence in popularity of Neon Genesis Evangelion, added to the provider in 2019, the streaming services’ current strategy and competitive nature have drawn criticism from others in the industry. Notable critics include Funimation’s President Gen Fukunaga, who feels that Netflix’s fast-paced management has failed to do justice to the aforementioned classic animation, despite the company’s willingness to “…significantly overpay for something like Evangelion and outbid anybody by multiples, no matter what their ROI is.” When Netflix purchases the exclusive rights for a series and delays the release of the animation, the company isn’t just annoying their paying subscribers by keeping the show region-locked to the Japan Netflix server, but rather also directly harming the very creators who rely on overseas support. Should Netflix’s current strategy continue, the company’s attempts at becoming a major anime streaming hub will likely suffer reduced success despite the company possessing several exclusive licensing contracts for such upcoming animations as the recently concluded ‘Beastars’ and the currently airing cult classic ‘Dorohedoro.’ Simulcasting is clearly the future of anime globally, and Netflix is falling behind.


Simulcasts and dubs are definitely worth paying for, I would only buy the blue rays of stuff I've already watched if I absolutely loved it.

I knew that CR is guilty of many errors which diminish the viewers experience, but I didn't know that netflix failed that hard when it comes to anime, I just didn't like it for the selection in general.

It's definitely easy to see why people rely on piracy.

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I don't think it will die at least in a long time. it generates money so people will do more and it's fun to watch so people will watch more. And with everyone being in their houses now, many people I know started watching anime. Viva el anime.


right, corona isn't a blessing for the production but many people started watching it.
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What was the point in even asking that?
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Nop, anime is the ultimate from of animation, its eternal.
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what n-no, of course it won't. then what would people fap to?!?
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anime died a long time ago. when they switched to digital, experimented some with effects then called it a day.
they decided that the computer must only be used to save time and effort instead of making things as amazing as possible, going to places cel anime couldn't.
anime is a shell of what it was. quantity over quality, directors and artists are slaves to lightnovel publishers and shonen jump.
anime stopped being a product, and became advertisement to the ones above.
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It’s time to ditch the text file.
Keep track of your anime easily by creating your own list.
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