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do you hold on to grudges for so long? if so does it affect your health badly?

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Jun 28, 2020 4:57 PM
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thread is inspired by the recent video https://youtu.be/PrsRtKYsQhc

to me i think i hold on to grudges for a long time especially due to my schizophrenia but damn ye its bad for me health overall be it mental and physical im sure

so how about you? and how do you let go of shit like this in your own way? *insert let it go meme song here*
Jun 28, 2020 5:12 PM
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No, I simply just stopped talking to certain people IRL and even haven't talked to some of them for more than 20 years, and that doesn't affect my health.

I don't think that kind of thing is even important to worry about it at all, just move on, that's all.
Jun 28, 2020 5:20 PM
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I'm a very selfish person but not that selfish to forgive people. I don't hold grudges though - I don't think about them till the moment comes for me to be kind and altruistic and teach them a life lesson. And my health is fine of course.
Jun 28, 2020 5:34 PM
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I'm Italian, there's no grudges to be had. One moment we'll be so mad that we want to slap the hell out of you; the next we'll be kissing you on the cheek and inviting you to our cousin's wedding. Nothing personal, just business.

Though with that said, I have a good memory. I forgive, but I never forget.
Jun 28, 2020 5:36 PM
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I'm a pragmatist. If I can't get even I don't hold a grudge. If it isn't intentional, I don't hold a grudge. Anything else, I'm game.
Really, grudge-holding isn't so helpful now? Sure, let's say it isn't! (personal opinion). If your boss promotes someone unworthy instead of you, you won't hold a grudge? (again hypothetically)
I believe instincts are there for a reason (survival). If they serve a purpose.

My health is fine. Annual checkups and all.
Jun 28, 2020 5:38 PM
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Bayek said:
I forgive, but I never forget.


science should really focus on making a drug that does this and not those experimental drugs/treatments they have of erasing memories altogether to reduce PTSD trauma for example
Jun 28, 2020 5:45 PM
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I usually forgive people pretty fast and I don't really care to remember things they've done against me...I do hold grudges against certain people tho.

Jun 28, 2020 5:47 PM
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no usually if i am mad at someone to the point of a grudge it's explosion time. then forget about it or forgive it.

though this tends to be the norm with introverts.
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Jun 28, 2020 6:05 PM
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I asked for Rollerblades from my parents back in my first years of elementary school. They of course refused but few months after it was bought as a birthday present for a kid of one of their friends. Some more than ten years later I am still holding dearly onto my grudge.


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Jun 28, 2020 6:14 PM

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Yeah, I still get furiously angry when I remember the time Xx_Dick_Slayerz69 beat me at Quake Arena in 2001. I found out where he lives...sometimes I draw out elaborate plans on how I'm going to kill him but then I just ball up the paper and throw it in the bin. My therapist says it's not a healthy way to deal with my anger but I don't pay her to tell me what to think.
Jun 28, 2020 6:56 PM
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Bobby2Hands said:
Yeah, I still get furiously angry when I remember the time Xx_Dick_Slayerz69 beat me at Quake Arena in 2001. I found out where he lives...sometimes I draw out elaborate plans on how I'm going to kill him but then I just ball up the paper and throw it in the bin. My therapist says it's not a healthy way to deal with my anger but I don't pay her to tell me what to think.


That's what you get for playing Quake Arena in 2001 instead of UT99, and I'm pretty sure that Xx_Dick_Slayerz69 is not a dick slayer any longer, so don't worry about it.
Jun 28, 2020 7:15 PM

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I don't hold grudges, or at least no one has wronged me enough that my life's motivation is for revenge. I have beef that I don't hold begrudgingly, but because there's a mix of ego and misunderstanding that makes things go unsettled. I also don't try to instigate or compare with others.

But I mean I still have moments where I remembered someone being a dick to me, and other times of my wrongdoings. I try my best, whether or rage or cringe for a second, to let the idea go by. Sometimes I experience a bit of humiliation whenever someone CCs my boss about a complaint. Sometimes I talk back and strike a nerve with someone else. I learned to let things go by realizing that we're all human, and we make mistakes. And the faster we figure out that we're all just individuals who are trying to survive, the more supportive and forgiving we all can be.

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Jun 28, 2020 7:25 PM

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Jun 28, 2020 7:33 PM

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I can't be bothered to hold grudges for too long, like after at least a day I get over whatever someone did to make me angry, takes too much of my energy to be constantly upset about someone.
Jun 28, 2020 7:58 PM
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Meh, if I did that online, then I'd probably have a mental breakdown. I don't do it much in real life either, but I have a greater capacity for it, ironically, even though I tend to be pretty docile and inoffensive offline and pretty aggressive online. There's a couple of users that I strongly believe should be permabanned, if that counts as a grudge. If not though, then idk.

I just get into a lot of fights online. When I first started using forums, definitely, I was a grudgebearing little shit, but eventually that type of conflict not only became really commonplace to me, but there's also the fact that people on this specific site are very revolving door-y over on AD - just like the topics, different people who all have the exact same shit to say - so at some point you just stop caring about usernames and individuals and more about what they're saying and what you want to argue. Their words mean more than what they present as their online identity, and when you see the same types of opinions so often, that sort of outlook can make individuals very forgettable. Risk of sounding edgy has been taken.

I have a lot of people holding grudges against me on this site tho lmao. There's one guy that said something in a thread a couple of years back that I found really stupid, and so I mocked him for it. To this *day* I get leaks from his private Discord server where he shittalks me like I'm the bane of all creation or like we're arch-enemies. I talked to him once and would've never remembered him if he wasn't brought to my attention.

I wish it could sound this cool but it's not lmao, stuff like that does kind of creep me out and it happens sometimes.
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Jun 28, 2020 8:24 PM

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I've had fallouts with people really close to me and have removed myself from them for a period of time, but we work things out and put it behind us.




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Jun 28, 2020 8:32 PM

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No because I'm Maynard James Keenan and I can scream for insanely long periods of time.

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Jun 28, 2020 8:57 PM
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@Manaban

thats funny but then you usually use strong words when giving your opinions so ye not surprise

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ye i hold grudges more in real life too way more than online and to me its the reason im a loner and hikikomori in real life i know its just my paranoia at work and maybe even hallucinations but damn my scumbag brain just cannot let go of shit i experience because even hallucinations seems real experience anyway
Jun 28, 2020 9:17 PM
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I absolutely hold grudges against people who've hurt me and while I may forget what they done after 5-10 years, the feeling of distrust always remains

from what I can tell it doesn't have any affect on my physical or mental health, though
Jun 28, 2020 9:19 PM

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i held grudges against a few people for many years, and it ruined my late teens/early twenties. what's the saying? "holding a grudge is like drinking poison and waiting for the other person to die"? can't quite remember.

there were other factors as well, but i was pretty sick during those years.. under weight, mentally unwell, bad diet, angry. quit my night-shift job(for the wrong reasons, but ultimately was for the best). i signed up for this university program where i'd get to talk about my problems with psychology students, for free. guess i just needed to vent, because those psych students never really told me anything that stuck with me, they just listened and asked questions.. but i'd consider the time spent there to have been worthwhile. uhh..

anyway, i decided some time in the past to stop all of that. no more lying, no more resentment. i've always had a lot of respect for hard-workers, or people who are family oriented.. so whenever someone makes me upset, i try and imagine them as having a rough day, and that they are in a rush to get back to their family or their pet or whatever. someone is a dick to you because you're taking too long at the ATM machine? they just had a long day at work, they're in a rush to get home and take their steel-toes off and pet their cute kitty, fluffmaster.
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Jun 28, 2020 9:22 PM
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Mashmakhan said:

anyway, i decided some time in the past to stop all of that. no more lying, no more resentment. i've always had a lot of respect for hard-workers, or people who are family oriented.. so whenever someone makes me upset, i try and imagine them as having a rough day, and that they are in a rush to get back to their family or their pet or whatever. someone is a dick to you because you're taking too long at the ATM machine? they just had a long day at work, they're in a rush to get home and take their steel-toes off and pet their cute kitty, fluffmaster.


ye controlling that so called Fundamental Attribution Error stuff i mostly try to lessen that error online since online you got more time and we are all strangers here anyway

Jun 28, 2020 9:30 PM

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Fundamental Attribution Error

i never knew before that there was a phrase that described this, very interesting.
and it can even have the opposite effect apparently; where people act like dicks themselves, but assume other people will see past that, and understand that they were, 'just in a rush' or, 'my mother is sick'.
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Jun 28, 2020 10:03 PM
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Mashmakhan said:
deg said:
Fundamental Attribution Error

i never knew before that there was a phrase that described this, very interesting.
and it can even have the opposite effect apparently; where people act like dicks themselves, but assume other people will see past that, and understand that they were, 'just in a rush' or, 'my mother is sick'.


ye but they call the reverse as self-serving bias afaik
Jun 28, 2020 10:07 PM

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i do hold gruges for a long time, but simply try to interact the least possible with the person, and if they try to be friendly with me i just try to be as neutral as possible and don't give them too much of my trust. it also doesn't affect me at all.
Jun 28, 2020 10:41 PM
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I usually forgive, but that only works a certain amount of times. Once I've been fucked over by that person multiple times I usually just stop associating myself with them regardless of how close I was with them at one point.

And yea it kinda affects me cause its caused me to be kinda isolated but that might be from just having a lot of shitty people in my life in the past.
Jun 28, 2020 11:07 PM

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It is not that I forgive or forget but I simply cease to care once I can consider that the critic I was told was worthless (main cause of grudges to me). It may take years though.

However, I do not know if it can be considered as a grudge, but once I start despising someone, I can hardly go back on my judgment. Here, I am mostly thinking of people who behaved unethically at the University or at work and brag about it openly. No Longer Human.

Jun 28, 2020 11:42 PM
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No. I don't forgive people without an apology, but I just move on for my own sanity.
Jun 29, 2020 1:05 AM
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Luchse said:
I asked for Rollerblades from my parents back in my first years of elementary school. They of course refused but few months after it was bought as a birthday present for a kid of one of their friends. Some more than ten years later I am still holding dearly onto my grudge.


How heartless!

Are you sure they weren't just trying to protect you from hurting yourself?
Jun 29, 2020 2:59 AM
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If the person apologised then I won’t have a grudge anymore. But if they want to pretend they didn’t do anything or act is if enough time has gone by for it to be forgotten about them my grudge against them will remain. My health doesn’t suffer because I don’t stop looking after myself. I still eat, sleep, exercise and entertain myself.
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Luchse said:
I asked for Rollerblades from my parents back in my first years of elementary school. They of course refused but few months after it was bought as a birthday present for a kid of one of their friends. Some more than ten years later I am still holding dearly onto my grudge.


How heartless!

Are you sure they weren't just trying to protect you from hurting yourself?
Very evil!

My parents are top of the line cheapskates(pun intended) unless something is to be bought for themselves. Father more so than mother.


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Jun 29, 2020 8:50 AM

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I never forgive and I never forget, all my grudges are going to the afterlife with me hoping that I can turn into a vengeful ghost and haunt every last person who ruined my life.
Jun 29, 2020 9:09 AM
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Gan_water said:
No because I'm Maynard James Keenan and I can scream for insanely long periods of time.

Man, you beat me to it! Why hold on to a grudge if one can get high on Tool instead?
Jun 29, 2020 9:15 AM

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I very much so hold grudges, I pride myself in not being a piece of shit because of a grudge though. I honestly can’t say if it does or doesn’t affect my health, there are far more prominent things in my life to determine if it’s grudges that causes my wellbeing to be decent or awful.
Jun 29, 2020 3:43 PM

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I hold grudges till the end of time, but I am no monster and willing to forgive if the person apologizes. Come one step towards me and I will come two steps towards you.


Jun 29, 2020 4:17 PM

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Well it depends on what they did though but for the most part I let go and forgive.
Jun 29, 2020 8:35 PM

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Yes.

Ever since that chalked up motherfucker came under my sheets as soon as I was having the best dream of my life of being dribbled by Prince at his prime.
Jun 29, 2020 10:11 PM

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Gan_water said:
No because I'm Maynard James Keenan and I can scream for insanely long periods of time.

Man, you beat me to it! Why hold on to a grudge if one can get high on Tool instead?


Why indeed, and Tool isn't even mad any more lol.
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Jun 30, 2020 10:39 AM
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I tend not to but there was a period where I worked for two people who made my life a misery for several months. Even when I was free of the work the experience and my hatred of them was still in my mind. It's not a healthy way to be at all. Eventually I had to just tell myself, why am I still thinking about this, it's not as if these people are thinking about me? I'd probably laugh is something came up to me tomorrow that one of them had been sacked for bullying or something but I don't think about them at all unless I run into an old colleague who mentions them. Awful things happen in life but time spent holding grudges is letting those people win. Also it's time spent negatively that you could be spending doing something enjoyable.
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Holding to your grudges is bad for health? Just ignore the person for the rest of your life.You'll be happy and ok but that person will die from anger
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Jun 30, 2020 1:19 PM

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Well, I'm practically never angry. I forgive and never forget, but it's not on my mind at all.
If it was a mistake, that is something that can attempt to be forgotten in order to help with my health.
If a friend were to do something horrible to me or anyone else intentionally, I might dislike that person for a few days, but won't ever have the courage to leave them, nor want them to leave. I can't bring myself to hate someone.
Memories can come back during a bad event, but those are more like flashbacks since my memory repressed them.
Jun 30, 2020 1:41 PM

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not really but at the same time if someone does something to me ill get incredibly emotional for like ten minutes than forget it and push it away immediately, which probably affects me somewhere anyway.
Jun 30, 2020 2:33 PM
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Gan_water said:
Why indeed, and Tool isn't even mad any more lol.
Exactly! This entire album is like a spiritual journey that clears the mind and the soul. Even more effectively than Zen Buddhism.
Jun 30, 2020 2:39 PM
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Depends on how much someone pissed me off but in general I believe in forgive but not forget saying.
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grudges to me are like marriage, till death do us apart.

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