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Jun 22, 2020 4:05 PM
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This is one of the best episode in anime of all time. I cried more than 1 time seeing this fckin drama.
Jun 22, 2020 6:11 PM

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Meriu said:
Damn, watching that episode was exhausting.
I wanted to hang myself for the first 15 minutes.. not a fan.

Worst episode for me, by a landslide. :/ In fact I would have rather skipped watching this.
Kinda surprised everyone but me seems to love it.

Adding eyes to the cheerleading mates when he opened his eyes was a nice touch, though.

Damn why didn't you like it? I'm guessing it's because of the lack of jokes (tho I personally like it when this shows gets more dramatic)
Jun 22, 2020 6:29 PM
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Mr_Chr1s said:
Meriu said:
Damn, watching that episode was exhausting.
I wanted to hang myself for the first 15 minutes.. not a fan.

Worst episode for me, by a landslide. :/ In fact I would have rather skipped watching this.
Kinda surprised everyone but me seems to love it.

Adding eyes to the cheerleading mates when he opened his eyes was a nice touch, though.

Damn why didn't you like it? I'm guessing it's because of the lack of jokes (tho I personally like it when this shows gets more dramatic)


I avoid Drama Anime in general, I don't see the appeal in it. I tried watching stuff like Plastic Memories, but it was painful to watch for me.
I don't mind tearing up, but I prefer if it's due to something beautiful happening.
Even worse if it's suddenly happening in what looks like a lighthearted Romcom like Kaguya.
Bullying backstory drama is also the one I hate the most, I'd rather see one of my favorite characters die in a dramatic way. Also thought it was kinda dumb that literally everyone immediately jumped on Ishigami without giving it a second thought.
The narrator came in clutch at the end when he announced today's winner like he always does. That scene was decent. :)

I guess it's just not for me. Seeing how only 14 others (votes) in this thread seem to share my opinion it's probably a decent episode if you enjoy pain.. (:D)
Jun 22, 2020 6:47 PM

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I'm not crying... There's just something in my eye.
Jun 22, 2020 7:10 PM

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Meriu said:
Mr_Chr1s said:

Damn why didn't you like it? I'm guessing it's because of the lack of jokes (tho I personally like it when this shows gets more dramatic)


I avoid Drama Anime in general, I don't see the appeal in it. I tried watching stuff like Plastic Memories, but it was painful to watch for me.
I don't mind tearing up, but I prefer if it's due to something beautiful happening.
Even worse if it's suddenly happening in what looks like a lighthearted Romcom like Kaguya.
Bullying backstory drama is also the one I hate the most, I'd rather see one of my favorite characters die in a dramatic way. Also thought it was kinda dumb that literally everyone immediately jumped on Ishigami without giving it a second thought.
The narrator came in clutch at the end when he announced today's winner like he always does. That scene was decent. :)

I guess it's just not for me. Seeing how only 14 others (votes) in this thread seem to share my opinion it's probably a decent episode if you enjoy pain.. (:D)

Yeah, I can see how the episode would be a bit jarring for you and other people expecting just a lighthearted romcom, but I don't think it's surprising that most people enjoy the episode. It gave more information on a beloved character and explained (somewhat) why his personality is the way it is. The episode is indeed painful and tough to sit through, but seeing the resolution to the drama and how characters have grown as a result makes all the pain worth it for most. Even for a comedy like this, knowing that Ishigami has a sad backstory makes the fun and happy moments with him much sweeter, since we can see that he is still able to laugh, be himself, and enjoy his time with his friends despite facing hardship in the past.

As for everyone jumping on Ishigami very quickly, keep in mind that no one talked to or really knew him beforehand. To the rest of his classmates, all they see is some socially inept person beating up a popular student who wasn't resisting in what appears to be a dispute about said student's girlfriend. Even if someone did believe Ishigami, defending him would jeopardize that person's school and social life, as well.

Jun 22, 2020 7:11 PM

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This episode somewhat reminded me of Onanie master kurosawa. A really nice episode to flesh out Yuu's character.



Jun 22, 2020 7:18 PM

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Meriu said:
Mr_Chr1s said:

Damn why didn't you like it? I'm guessing it's because of the lack of jokes (tho I personally like it when this shows gets more dramatic)


I avoid Drama Anime in general, I don't see the appeal in it. I tried watching stuff like Plastic Memories, but it was painful to watch for me.
I don't mind tearing up, but I prefer if it's due to something beautiful happening.
Even worse if it's suddenly happening in what looks like a lighthearted Romcom like Kaguya.
Bullying backstory drama is also the one I hate the most, I'd rather see one of my favorite characters die in a dramatic way. Also thought it was kinda dumb that literally everyone immediately jumped on Ishigami without giving it a second thought.
The narrator came in clutch at the end when he announced today's winner like he always does. That scene was decent. :)

I guess it's just not for me. Seeing how only 14 others (votes) in this thread seem to share my opinion it's probably a decent episode if you enjoy pain.. (:D)

Yeah I get it. Especially since this episode is pretty jarring compared to the rest of the show since the entire thing is a drama-focused episode, unlike the fireworks episode from season 1 which at least had some comedy segments.
Jun 22, 2020 7:44 PM

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Cool episode, kind of predictable though but still well done really adds to ishigami’s character as well. Wow already 11 weeks have gone by just like that? :0
Jun 22, 2020 8:00 PM

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I really hope Otomo finds out that Ishigami protected her from him! I wanna see her face when she finds out 😤 my boy went thru a lot 😢
Jun 22, 2020 8:32 PM
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I wonder what's going on at that jerk-guy's phone, is that he already sleep with kyoko or another girl? Or he had kyoko's naked video?
Jun 22, 2020 9:18 PM
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The threaten with revenge porn was something that I was firsthand witnessed in real life. Men like Oogino do exist, not in small numbers, and that's why some men can take pimping as an occupation or living as a professional gigolo. I saw somepeople said that Oogino was a comical evil, nah dude nah, Oogino was someone that reflect reality of extremely selfish men. They do exist, just that you havn't met one yet.
Jun 22, 2020 9:47 PM

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I haven’t read the manga, I really loved S1 but S2 is just incredible so far, this episode is probably one of my favourite episodes of anime ever. it somehow keeps getting better every week
Jun 22, 2020 10:29 PM
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"It gets more Dramatic from here"
-------Masayuki Suzuki
Jun 22, 2020 11:01 PM

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The best episode of this season. 5/5
Jun 23, 2020 12:27 AM

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this was an important episode , hope no one misses it.


“You can always die. It's living that takes real courage." - Himura Kenshin”

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Jun 23, 2020 12:29 AM

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we should judge a bad work or a sin not a person , because we don't know the person's whole story.
“You can always die. It's living that takes real courage." - Himura Kenshin”

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Jun 23, 2020 1:19 AM

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Great fking episode. This shows that kaguya-sama series can be serious at times. This episode took the anime to the next level. Ishigami and Shirogane both best bois.
Jun 23, 2020 2:09 AM

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Maybe the episode would've worked better if he had not started punching that guy.
Jun 23, 2020 3:52 AM
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Did not expect this episode to be quite depressing, but it's still a good episode nonetheless!
Jun 23, 2020 3:58 AM
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finally a good episode from this series !!!



There have only been good episodes so far though. Ok, this one is exceptionally good I agree.
Jun 23, 2020 4:25 AM

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An awesome episode, I felt for Ishigami so bad and wah, glad he got over it finally. I still wish the truth got out and people would know that he isn't a stalker psycho...also makes me angry that that Oogani scumbag got away with everything (okay he had to transfer from Shuuchin but still).

I can't see why would people give this ep 1 or 2 out of 5...a few scenes were missing but it was still great...

I started to think this anime is a masterpiece!

Anyway gotta check out this arc in the manga for the left out scenes.

Edit: checked out the manga chapters! A few stuff was more clear there, so I'm glad I read it. Btw it was chapter 88-90, if anyone wants to read it too.
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Jun 23, 2020 6:21 AM

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They cut an scene here, certainly Kaguya "wouldn't do something that cruel" but she told the truth too other persons that certainly would do something like that.

I was waiting for this episode.
I like to post in manga forum when I feel it is worth it, so people will think. "Shit, is her again" or something.

People asked me where I read certain thing but the rules say no telling where did you read so maybe I am too boring for not saying? Or salty because you didn't check my profile that says don't ask because I hate people to ghost me after that. I love learning languages so maybe I did not read the manga in English.
Jun 23, 2020 6:38 AM
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guys they really did it im literally in tears

And can't say enough how many times they cross your expectation.....And the that back story of ishigami man... i really feeling sad that it's nearing it's last episodes....
Jun 23, 2020 9:24 AM

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What an amazing episode! Ishigami's backstory was one of the most impactful parts of the manga for me and its anime adaptation certainly doesn't disappoint. In fact, I'd say it's just plain perfect. :D
I especially loved how the anime made the cheer team's faces appear once Ishigami started seeing them as his friends. I don't remember that happening in the manga but it really did improve the scene quite a bit in my opinion.
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Jun 23, 2020 10:58 AM

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F*ck that girl and her ex. That smile doesn't deserve to be protected.


Her ex sure is a piece of 💩, but she herself is still a good girl, like she was so nice to Ishigami, even though literally everyone avoided him.
She did absolutely nothing wrong.

From her perspective, Ishigami just beat up her boyfriend pretty badly for no reason, which has caused her sadness and depression because the guy broke up with her.

She(and everyone else) knows absolutely nothing about the circumstances of Ishigami's behaviour, or what her boyfriend was actually like.

But I don't care about her perspective though. I just didn't like what she did no matter what's the logic or reason behind. So yeah f*ck her.
Jun 23, 2020 12:10 PM

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Just as some people expected before, the score skyrocketed a little from 8.88 to 8.94 after the episode that adapted chapters dedicated to Ishigami's backstory aired.
Jun 23, 2020 12:13 PM

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Adnash93 said:
Just as some people expected before, the score skyrocketed a little from 8.88 to 8.94 after the episode that adapted chapters dedicated to Ishigami's backstory aired.
See buddy, you gotta trust us manga readers. We know what's coming.
And we also know how S3 has the potential to surpass this season also
Jun 23, 2020 12:18 PM

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Adnash93 said:
Just as some people expected before, the score skyrocketed a little from 8.88 to 8.94 after the episode that adapted chapters dedicated to Ishigami's backstory aired.


8.84 it was exactly 48 hours back. That's a 0.1 jump actually without most of the viewers updating their scores. This episode smashed r/anime, twitter, bilibili, nico, 5ch, MAL, you name it. This will most likely surpass 9.00 at this rate. But trust me, S3 will go much beyond that because we will finally see the Legend in his full glory.

Ps. When I see Legend, you can read it as Shirogane from now on.
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Jun 23, 2020 12:33 PM
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Just goes to show how this show transcends the standard setting of a rom-com. In addition to the frequent jokes, the show keeps its serious emotional aspect with very believable reactions from everyone and that itself is a achievement. As a manga reader knowing that what's to come is nothing better than an ever developing story rekindles that passion I always have and will have towards a great show such as this.
Jun 23, 2020 12:58 PM
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Adnash93 said:
Just as some people expected before, the score skyrocketed a little from 8.88 to 8.94 after the episode that adapted chapters dedicated to Ishigami's backstory aired.

I think there's a bug, number of score user suddenly jump from 80k to 109k
Jun 23, 2020 12:59 PM

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See buddy, you gotta trust us manga readers. We know what's coming.
And we also know how S3 has the potential to surpass this season also

The episode was good, but as anime-only I must say that it's a shame that many small, yet significant details were omitted in the anime adaptation (at least those I learned about from manga readers in this thread). If they had been included, this episode could've been even way better in terms of quality; and who knows? Maybe the mean score would've been already close to 9.00 or even 9.00+ ? I can imagine that.

I have heard already that Season 3 might surpass Season 2's pass quality in literally every aspect, while I say that Season 2 represents high quality already. Normally I would think of that kind of words as exaggerated, but now I am curious to see what the future if this anime will bring in the next season that I hope will be produced. The staff cares about this adaptation and it would be co to see more of their works from adapting Kaguya-sama into an anime.

@shanimebib , dunno who is the Legend, lol. I saw people calling like that several characters (mostly Ishigami and Hayasaka), so I'm confused a little bit. ;pp
@x_Articuno_x , or maybe may users just decided to give a score when the anime they are watching is close to its final episode?
Jun 23, 2020 1:35 PM

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I wanted to see Kaguya's evil face and the VIPs



Why in the fuck are they letting this things out!? No I want to read the manga...
Jun 23, 2020 1:37 PM

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@Adnash93: There is a difference between fangirling and stating facts based on what is presented. If you read the manga and go beyond the content of S2, you will notice that Shirogane Miyuki is the character with the most depth in the story. We see him rescuing characters when they are at their lowest: Kaguya (Fireworks), Iino (Elections), Ishigami (Sports Festival). The list seems to keep on getting bigger. While he is shown as a goody two shoes who is a crap dancer, singer, volleyball player etc. etc.

I think the biggest failure of the Kaguya-sama fanbase is not realizing the power this boy from a not-so-well-off family possesses. A single panel of the manga changed the entire perception of the boy who we take for granted in the story.

Okay, I will stop my fangirling now. I don't care what others say. When I say legend, try to remember my username and read it as Shirogane.
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Jun 23, 2020 1:46 PM
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I love Ishigami,but after this episode i think Kaguya is in love with the wrong boy,cause damn Ishigami is a f&%$ hero
Jun 23, 2020 1:58 PM

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I love Ishigami,but after this episode i think Kaguya is in love with the wrong boy,cause damn Ishigami is a f&%$ hero

Did you not see how Shirogane saved the day?
Also, huge manga spoiler,
Jun 23, 2020 2:41 PM

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I love Ishigami,but after this episode i think Kaguya is in love with the wrong boy,cause damn Ishigami is a f&%$ hero

Did you not see how Shirogane saved the day?
Also, huge manga spoiler,


Can give a benefit of the doubt because Miyuki saving the day is so obvious that it can easily go over the head lol.
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pilotinha_ said:
nonemukun said:
I love Ishigami,but after this episode i think Kaguya is in love with the wrong boy,cause damn Ishigami is a f&%$ hero

Did you not see how Shirogane saved the day?
Also, huge manga spoiler,

Only for manga readers:
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sanlei said:
pilotinha_ said:

Did you not see how Shirogane saved the day?
Also, huge manga spoiler,


Jun 23, 2020 3:27 PM

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pilotinha_ said:
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But yeah, Ishigami hype aside. Shirogane is the real hero. Always be.
Jun 23, 2020 3:47 PM
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Bad episode to be honest, Ishigami's backstory is absolutely cliché and senseless, I feel like i'm watching My Hero Academia, not Love is War, the previous episodes with Shirogane and Kaguya doing strategies were so much better than cliché backstory.
Jun 23, 2020 4:11 PM

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Bad episode to be honest, Ishigami's backstory is absolutely cliché and senseless, I feel like i'm watching My Hero Academia, not Love is War, the previous episodes with Shirogane and Kaguya doing strategies were so much better than cliché backstory.

You should consider dropping this series if you only see Kaguya for the strategies, cause they are almost finished in this manga from this point, it gets full (good) romcom. Also, a series is not good or bad depending if it's cliché or not. You can have very bad original series and very good "cliché" series.
Jun 23, 2020 4:18 PM
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pilotinha_ said:
Ashhk said:
Bad episode to be honest, Ishigami's backstory is absolutely cliché and senseless, I feel like i'm watching My Hero Academia, not Love is War, the previous episodes with Shirogane and Kaguya doing strategies were so much better than cliché backstory.

You should consider dropping this series if you only see Kaguya for the strategies, cause they are almost finished in this manga from this point, it gets full (good) romcom. Also, a series is not good or bad depending if it's cliché or not. You can have very bad original series and very good "cliché" series.
I know but i'm nostalgic of the first season, the story isn't the same now it became really different and feel too much shounen for me, like dark past with no justice episode etc etc I thought it was a parody first but afterall I realized that it was serious so i'm disappointed by the last episodes.
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Ashhk said:
pilotinha_ said:

You should consider dropping this series if you only see Kaguya for the strategies, cause they are almost finished in this manga from this point, it gets full (good) romcom. Also, a series is not good or bad depending if it's cliché or not. You can have very bad original series and very good "cliché" series.
I know but i'm nostalgic of the first season, the story isn't the same now it became really different and feel too much shounen for me, like dark past with no justice episode etc etc I thought it was a parody first but afterall I realized that it was serious so i'm disappointed by the last episodes.


The manga is a seinen tho.
Also, no justice for Ishi?, yea but (manga spoiler, read at your own risk)
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And yes, the story changes dramatically compared to the first season, where there was no plot at all.
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pilotinha_ said:
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I know but i'm nostalgic of the first season, the story isn't the same now it became really different and feel too much shounen for me, like dark past with no justice episode etc etc I thought it was a parody first but afterall I realized that it was serious so i'm disappointed by the last episodes.


The manga is a seinen tho.
Also, no justice for Ishi?, yea but (manga spoiler, read at your own risk)
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And yes, the story changes dramatically compared to the first season, where there was no plot at all.
I know it's tagged as a seinen that's where I got baited because it suddenly changed and became a shounen (in my opinion)
Not in that way, it's just that I don't understand how it is original and different from all these cliché backstories in a lot of shounen, it's not that bad, just generic and far from the mastermind kaguya strategies etc :/
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I know it's tagged as a seinen that's where I got baited because it suddenly changed and became a shounen (in my opinion)
Not in that way, it's just that I don't understand where it is original and different from all these cliché backstories in a lot of shounen, it's not bad to be honest just generic and far from the mastermind kaguya strategies etc :/

You also need to understand a series like this, without serious arcs and imortant plot advances, would only have 1 season, 2 if it's good, considering it's a romcom. Kaguya envolved pretty good and thanks to that it's still one of the most popular mangas with more than 190 chapters (even more, it's popularity is still rising).
And if what you want are arcs less depressing, don't worry, this is by far the most "hard" arc until now tho it still have serious moments. Also this arc is REALLY important to mark Ishigami's character and situation in the future.
To be brief, this manga isn't about Kaguya and Shirogane anymore. It's about everyone in the student council
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pilotinha_ said:
Ashhk said:
I know it's tagged as a seinen that's where I got baited because it suddenly changed and became a shounen (in my opinion)
Not in that way, it's just that I don't understand where it is original and different from all these cliché backstories in a lot of shounen, it's not bad to be honest just generic and far from the mastermind kaguya strategies etc :/

You also need to understand a series like this, without serious arcs and imortant plot advances, would only have 1 season, 2 if it's good, considering it's a romcom. Kaguya envolved pretty good and thanks to that it's still one of the most popular mangas with more than 190 chapters (even more, it's popularity is still rising).
And if what you want are arcs less depressing, don't worry, this is by far the most "hard" arc until now tho it still have serious moments. Also this arc is REALLY important to mark Ishigami's character and situation in the future.
To be brief, this manga isn't about Kaguya and Shirogane anymore. It's about everyone in the student council
It's just that I wasn't aware that it would change so I don't fully enjoy it now compared to S1 and first episodes of this season but yes I understand and it's obvious that they had to make a real plot to not make the manga/anime too repetitive, and I think the sudden change of mood without comedy in this episode just made me realize that the anime totally changed compared to before.
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I love Ishigami,but after this episode i think Kaguya is in love with the wrong boy,cause damn Ishigami is a f&%$ hero
jjajajajajajja shirogane Is literally the hero of all the main characters.
Jun 23, 2020 5:45 PM

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After watching the episode 11 I nearly got heart attacc. Ishigami past story really killin me

Jun 23, 2020 5:47 PM

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Ishigamis big (drama) character development we needed, holy shit that was good.

Shirogane and Ishigami are the best definition of bromance


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Not sure how a romcom managed to have such a deep episode such as this, but they did and it was absolutely EXCELLENT!

Well done!

10/10
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