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May 13, 2020 1:46 PM
#51
romagia said: did you notice the subtle social commentary that Eren is darker skinned than Mikasa? I didn't. Too busy getting excited by titan killing action scenes. What social commentary? |
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May 13, 2020 1:50 PM
#52
I'm inclined to agree aside from Archer and Sphintus Carmen I haven't seen that many hot dark skinned male characters. I really like when dark skinned characters have blue eyes. For me skin color in general doesn't matter as much as long as they are hot. |
May 13, 2020 2:08 PM
#53
May 13, 2020 2:25 PM
#54
Kobac99 said: Oh,why u didnt say that you are a color blind in the first place,you upset me so much... Ok Law is dark then. Guess I'm color blind XDD Not sure why someone can upset over something like how one refer to some 2D character skin color tho o.O |
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May 13, 2020 2:26 PM
#55
@CrimsonMidnight, i feel the same that i have a positive inclination to a darker palette of skin in anime. But i think that's due to the overuse of the dominating color schemes used throughout the decades, so anything that isn't that color scheme is visually fresh as we have a whole new palette to contrast other colors with. Outside of anime i do not share the same sentiment, to the same effect. In real life for example my visual preferences are spread way more thin. So with drawn characters i think i'm just a lot more numb to the way anime is with their designs, a dark skinned character is immediately interesting because that breaks what my eyes are used to. |
May 13, 2020 2:33 PM
#56
CrimsonMidnight said: Kobac99 said: Oh,why u didnt say that you are a color blind in the first place,you upset me so much... Ok Law is dark then. Guess I'm color blind XDD Not sure why someone can upset over something like how one refer to some 2D character skin color tho o.O jk,im just joking i cant say anything bad about the person who love one piece... i think you thread is good (no drama) From the one piece crew i think the most dark would be usopp (before time skip) |
May 13, 2020 2:39 PM
#57
I love tan bois! Heiji Hattori is one of my favorites. He's got an attractive style, as well. |
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May 13, 2020 2:39 PM
#58
I think i find a perfect guy for u with dark skin. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3b/62/fe/3b62fe1aa3395cff000883ae8ada68f4.jpg |
May 13, 2020 3:00 PM
#59
Lunilah said: @CrimsonMidnight, i feel the same that i have a positive inclination to a darker palette of skin in anime. But i think that's due to the overuse of the dominating color schemes used throughout the decades, so anything that isn't that color scheme is visually fresh as we have a whole new palette to contrast other colors with. Outside of anime i do not share the same sentiment, to the same effect. In real life for example my visual preferences are spread way more thin. So with drawn characters i think i'm just a lot more numb to the way anime is with their designs, a dark skinned character is immediately interesting because that breaks what my eyes are used to. OH I think you're right! Part of the reason might be that!! Plus, dark skin just give out this dark and manly aura/vibes that I think is cool, lol. Well, if we talk about real life, as in, real person, my preferences is more towards westerner, especially those in superhero movies, lmao. If I can name some of my fav actors, I love Sebastian Stan, Michael Fassbender and Tom Hiddlestone, lmao. This is why I can't lump anime and rl together smh. |
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May 13, 2020 3:02 PM
#60
Kobac99 said: I think i find a perfect guy for u with dark skin. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3b/62/fe/3b62fe1aa3395cff000883ae8ada68f4.jpg Noooooooo I mean, ATTRACTIVE and HOT guy with darker skin color :((( Kobac99 said: CrimsonMidnight said: Kobac99 said: Oh,why u didnt say that you are a color blind in the first place,you upset me so much... Ok Law is dark then. Guess I'm color blind XDD Not sure why someone can upset over something like how one refer to some 2D character skin color tho o.O jk,im just joking i cant say anything bad about the person who love one piece... i think you thread is good (no drama) From the one piece crew i think the most dark would be usopp (before time skip) Usopp right, I can't believe I forgot about him. I like him! but he is unattractive lmao, still love him tho |
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May 13, 2020 3:07 PM
#61
CrimsonMidnight said: Seeing as we both love Fairy Tail, you must have really enjoyed Azuma. I certainly did, very stoic.Lunilah said: @CrimsonMidnight, i feel the same that i have a positive inclination to a darker palette of skin in anime. But i think that's due to the overuse of the dominating color schemes used throughout the decades, so anything that isn't that color scheme is visually fresh as we have a whole new palette to contrast other colors with. Outside of anime i do not share the same sentiment, to the same effect. In real life for example my visual preferences are spread way more thin. So with drawn characters i think i'm just a lot more numb to the way anime is with their designs, a dark skinned character is immediately interesting because that breaks what my eyes are used to. OH I think you're right! Part of the reason might be that!! Plus, dark skin just give out this dark and manly aura/vibes that I think is cool, lol. Well, if we talk about real life, as in, real person, my preferences is more towards westerner, especially those in superhero movies, lmao. If I can name some of my fav actors, I love Sebastian Stan, Michael Fassbender and Tom Hiddlestone, lmao. This is why I can't lump anime and rl together smh. Just so i don't leave you hanging, my favorites are (in no particular order) Anthony Hopkins, Ed Harris, Idris Elba, Gary Oldman, Tom Hardy. But they're more for acting performance. Except Tom, he's really hot. Same with Henry Cavill's Geralt. |
May 13, 2020 3:14 PM
#62
I found one but its not a man, i hope we can name womens as well lol, she comes in 2 form but only 1 is really hot: https://wallpaperset.com/w/full/7/d/f/88392.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9d/35/fc/9d35fce2b35e7a9752e01078a19dcfa4.jpg |
May 13, 2020 3:34 PM
#63
CrimsonMidnight said: DONQUIXOTE- said: Japanese people don’t give af about dark people lol. But when they do draw dark skin characters they look MAGNIFICENT. They might not give a fuck, and I don't care, but they should have realized by now that darker skin does look exotic and good in character and it would be great to see more of them as main character! See Fujimaki Tadatoshi-sensei that created Aomine ; w ; and he made another dark skinned MC in his next work, but it got cancelled T_T even I thought the MC is much better than Kuroko & Kagami :( Yea I definitely agree. I’m a boy but if I was a girl like you I would finger my self to aomines photo every day, lmfao. |
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May 13, 2020 3:54 PM
#64
Some are tanned rather than dark-skinned. Reg from Made in Abyss Mugen from Samurai Champloo Umi from Children of the Sea Lilium from ACCA: 13-Territory Inspection Dept. Musa from Run with the Wind |
BillyTheGoatMay 13, 2020 4:33 PM
May 13, 2020 3:59 PM
#65
May 13, 2020 4:00 PM
#66
Because catering to otaku fetishes is profitable, that is why there are so many anime that do that. |
May 13, 2020 4:06 PM
#67
May 13, 2020 4:15 PM
#68
I don't think it's called fetish, just preference. Well, that is in my case. I just like to see some variety. |
May 13, 2020 4:36 PM
#70
Yeah, I think so. Most JJBA characters have the same complexion as his so it's not that noticeable. |
May 13, 2020 4:38 PM
#71
BillyTheGoat said: Yeah, I think so. Most JJBA characters have the same complexion as his so it's not that noticeable. oh okay is it just me or does his complexion get lighter in part 4? |
May 13, 2020 4:43 PM
#72
qyc said: BillyTheGoat said: Yeah, I think so. Most JJBA characters have the same complexion as his so it's not that noticeable. oh okay is it just me or does his complexion get lighter in part 4? Now that you mention it, I guess it does. But I think the overall tones shifted from part 3 to part 4. Part 4 looks more colorful and brighter. |
May 13, 2020 6:14 PM
#73
i agree! there should be more tanned/dark skinned anime characters! they always look soooo attractive and eye-catching! has anyone mentioned Reo from Saranzamai yet?? |
May 14, 2020 6:03 AM
#74
Because Americans are spoiled perverts, as simple as that. The more comforts you have, the more fictional problems you seek, in this case the OP is so perverted that they are tired of the typical "white bois" and want to play the race card to stimulate that exhausted perversion. Racism is not only about hating a group of people because of how they look, it is also about paying attention to their skin in the first place. Black, white etc - we're all the same and this fetish of white "princesses" or "princes" going for the opposite race is fueled by the fact that they're the opposite race, not their personality. There's no love in any of that, only lust for what seems forbidden or different. I reported OP message for racism and they should be ashamed of themselves. Lust is not a virtue, it never was and never will be. |
May 14, 2020 6:10 AM
#75
Yeah, I like dark-skinned anime characters as well. When done right, they usually have a gorgeous design. Favaro from Rage of Bahamut is my favourite |
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May 14, 2020 6:16 AM
#76
MagicalLove said: Racism is not only about hating a group of people because of how they look, it is also about paying attention to their skin in the first place. Acknowledging other races and our differences is not inherently racist. I have no problem with being recognised as a black woman. On the side note, I do agree with you that fetishising races for ones own sexual gratification is strange. I would hate to be reduce to someone's sexual fantasy lol |
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May 14, 2020 6:25 AM
#77
Xstasy said: Because catering to otaku fetishes is profitable, that is why there are so many anime that do that. There aren't that many that do it. If you go on "Ecchi" genre page, you'll see there's about 752 entries. About 1/3 of them are entries such as "Recap", "Special", "OVA" etc which are not stand-alone anime, then there's also the great number of "ecchi" that's not really "ecchi" but it just has a few jokes here and there. Like Punchline or Kill la Kill, though Kill la Kill is rather perverted. The number of lust-driven anime is not big at all and Japan isn't the land of perverts, as some sad children imagine it to be. Quite the opposite. Otaku stuff does sell, sadly, but it's just the correlation between low budget and low income that's still low but is seen as profitable because of the low budget. Show an anime about real problems and the anime that will make someone a better person but give it a low budget? You'll see "valid criticisms" from "anime conosseiurs". Show them something that resembles their fetish on a low budget? They'll go crazy and buy the blu-rays. Cinnamon_Pramma said: MagicalLove said: Racism is not only about hating a group of people because of how they look, it is also about paying attention to their skin in the first place. Acknowledging other races and our differences is not inherently racist. I have no problem with being recognised as a black woman. On the side note, I do agree with you that fetishising races for ones own sexual gratification is strange. I would hate to be reduce to someone's sexual fantasy lol It is not dangerous racism but it is racism. I don't look at my family and go, "this one's white" and "this one's Asian". It's like that one message I saw on Twitter where some lady complained that people get weirded out when she says "I'm married to an Asian man". She doesn't say "I'm married" or "I'm married to a man I love", she says "I'm married to an Asian man". That's what is causing the reaction, and yet she keeps doing it because that's the entire point. And I don't know her, she may or may not love that guy but you don't need to have a science license to know that she's into him because of that. For your information, I don't tolerate any of the "I talked to a girl today, yay" kind of thing. Again, we're all the same and love can happen with anyone. But the moment you start to see someone as just "man", "woman", "black" - that's wrong. As for your last sentences, it's pure objectification, and OP does the very same thing. On the good side, when people are open about those lust-driven desires, they make it easier to see their true face and that's a plus since that makes it easy to avoid them. By the way, I'm not exactly sure why do you have Adolf Hitler in your favorites and then you think it's okay for you to even say a thing about racism. He is responsible for numerous deaths of people and I don't see how joking about him being your "favorite person" is funny in any way. Death is not something to joke about. |
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May 14, 2020 6:39 AM
#78
Wtf with all the hate towards OP in this thread? Fetishes? Racism? Get over yourselves. OP, I hope you won't get into any trouble. To cheer you up a bit, here's a list of anime with the boys you might like:
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May 14, 2020 6:47 AM
#79
MagicalLove said: Xstasy said: Because catering to otaku fetishes is profitable, that is why there are so many anime that do that. There aren't that many that do it. If you go on "Ecchi" genre page, you'll see there's about 752 entries. About 1/3 of them are entries such as "Recap", "Special", "OVA" etc which are not stand-alone anime, then there's also the great number of "ecchi" that's not really "ecchi" but it just has a few jokes here and there. Like Punchline or Kill la Kill, though Kill la Kill is rather perverted. The number of lust-driven anime is not big at all and Japan isn't the land of perverts, as some sad children imagine it to be. Quite the opposite. Otaku stuff does sell, sadly, but it's just the correlation between low budget and low income that's still low but is seen as profitable because of the low budget. Show an anime about real problems and the anime that will make someone a better person but give it a low budget? You'll see "valid criticisms" from "anime conosseiurs". Show them something that resembles their fetish on a low budget? They'll go crazy and buy the blu-rays. Cinnamon_Pramma said: MagicalLove said: Racism is not only about hating a group of people because of how they look, it is also about paying attention to their skin in the first place. Acknowledging other races and our differences is not inherently racist. I have no problem with being recognised as a black woman. On the side note, I do agree with you that fetishising races for ones own sexual gratification is strange. I would hate to be reduce to someone's sexual fantasy lol It is not dangerous racism but it is racism. I don't look at my family and go, "this one's white" and "this one's Asian". It's like that one message I saw on Twitter where some lady complained that people get weirded out when she says "I'm married to an Asian man". She doesn't say "I'm married" or "I'm married to a man I love", she says "I'm married to an Asian man". That's what is causing the reaction, and yet she keeps doing it because that's the entire point. And I don't know her, she may or may not love that guy but you don't need to have a science license to know that she's into him because of that. For your information, I don't tolerate any of the "I talked to a girl today, yay" kind of thing. Again, we're all the same and love can happen with anyone. But the moment you start to see someone as just "man", "woman", "black" - that's wrong. As for your last sentences, it's pure objectification, and OP does the very same thing. On the good side, when people are open about those lust-driven desires, they make it easier to see their true face and that's a plus since that makes it easy to avoid them. By the way, I'm not exactly sure why do you have Adolf Hitler in your favorites and then you think it's okay for you to even say a thing about racism. He is responsible for numerous deaths of people and I don't see how joking about him being your "favorite person" is funny in any way. Death is not something to joke about. Yeah, the woman basically has a fetish because she's reducing the love for her husband to his race, which is wrong. Recognising his race is okay, but it was how she responds to that which is what makes it an issue. There's no reason for her to mention that he's Asian when it isn't necessary. However, me saying that acknowledging our differences wasn't a defence of that kind of behaviour. I'm just tired of people pulling the whole "I don't see colour" rhetoric. Yes you do, and there's nothing wrong with that lol. Diversity is a good thing. I agree with it being pure objectification. I never disagreed with this notion. Having Adolf Hitler in my favourites was just a mockery gesture and I did it while I was studying Nazi Germany some time ago. Obviously I've grown up so I might as well change that. And no, I wasn't joking about millions of people dying, I was laughing over how MAL put him in the database even though this is an anime site. Stop overthinking it pfft |
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May 14, 2020 6:52 AM
#80
Cinnamon_Pramma said: MagicalLove said: Xstasy said: Because catering to otaku fetishes is profitable, that is why there are so many anime that do that. There aren't that many that do it. If you go on "Ecchi" genre page, you'll see there's about 752 entries. About 1/3 of them are entries such as "Recap", "Special", "OVA" etc which are not stand-alone anime, then there's also the great number of "ecchi" that's not really "ecchi" but it just has a few jokes here and there. Like Punchline or Kill la Kill, though Kill la Kill is rather perverted. The number of lust-driven anime is not big at all and Japan isn't the land of perverts, as some sad children imagine it to be. Quite the opposite. Otaku stuff does sell, sadly, but it's just the correlation between low budget and low income that's still low but is seen as profitable because of the low budget. Show an anime about real problems and the anime that will make someone a better person but give it a low budget? You'll see "valid criticisms" from "anime conosseiurs". Show them something that resembles their fetish on a low budget? They'll go crazy and buy the blu-rays. Cinnamon_Pramma said: MagicalLove said: Racism is not only about hating a group of people because of how they look, it is also about paying attention to their skin in the first place. Acknowledging other races and our differences is not inherently racist. I have no problem with being recognised as a black woman. On the side note, I do agree with you that fetishising races for ones own sexual gratification is strange. I would hate to be reduce to someone's sexual fantasy lol It is not dangerous racism but it is racism. I don't look at my family and go, "this one's white" and "this one's Asian". It's like that one message I saw on Twitter where some lady complained that people get weirded out when she says "I'm married to an Asian man". She doesn't say "I'm married" or "I'm married to a man I love", she says "I'm married to an Asian man". That's what is causing the reaction, and yet she keeps doing it because that's the entire point. And I don't know her, she may or may not love that guy but you don't need to have a science license to know that she's into him because of that. For your information, I don't tolerate any of the "I talked to a girl today, yay" kind of thing. Again, we're all the same and love can happen with anyone. But the moment you start to see someone as just "man", "woman", "black" - that's wrong. As for your last sentences, it's pure objectification, and OP does the very same thing. On the good side, when people are open about those lust-driven desires, they make it easier to see their true face and that's a plus since that makes it easy to avoid them. By the way, I'm not exactly sure why do you have Adolf Hitler in your favorites and then you think it's okay for you to even say a thing about racism. He is responsible for numerous deaths of people and I don't see how joking about him being your "favorite person" is funny in any way. Death is not something to joke about. Yeah, the woman basically has a fetish because she's reducing the love for her husband to his race, which is wrong. Recognising his race is okay, but it was how she responds to that which is what makes it an issue. There's no reason for her to mention that he's Asian when it isn't necessary. However, me saying that acknowledging our differences wasn't a defence of that kind of behaviour. I'm just tired of people pulling the whole "I don't see colour" rhetoric. Yes you do, and there's nothing wrong with that lol. Diversity is a good thing. I agree with it being pure objectification. I never disagreed with this notion. Having Adolf filter in my favourites was just a mockery gesture and I did while I was studying Nazi Germany some time ago. Obviously I've grown up so I might as well change that. Again, you are failing to see that there is no difference between people. I am not looking at my family and think about their race or skin color, or nationality. If you do that, then you have a problem and you need to fix it. That will be my last message to you. |
May 14, 2020 6:58 AM
#81
Sigh... I can't believe I got attacked over something like skin color in 2D drawings... someone sent me a message on discord, accusing me of being racist. I'm hurt. Mods you can close this thread now. Sorry for the unintended dramas. |
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May 14, 2020 7:04 AM
#82
MagicalLove said: Cinnamon_Pramma said: MagicalLove said: Xstasy said: Because catering to otaku fetishes is profitable, that is why there are so many anime that do that. There aren't that many that do it. If you go on "Ecchi" genre page, you'll see there's about 752 entries. About 1/3 of them are entries such as "Recap", "Special", "OVA" etc which are not stand-alone anime, then there's also the great number of "ecchi" that's not really "ecchi" but it just has a few jokes here and there. Like Punchline or Kill la Kill, though Kill la Kill is rather perverted. The number of lust-driven anime is not big at all and Japan isn't the land of perverts, as some sad children imagine it to be. Quite the opposite. Otaku stuff does sell, sadly, but it's just the correlation between low budget and low income that's still low but is seen as profitable because of the low budget. Show an anime about real problems and the anime that will make someone a better person but give it a low budget? You'll see "valid criticisms" from "anime conosseiurs". Show them something that resembles their fetish on a low budget? They'll go crazy and buy the blu-rays. Cinnamon_Pramma said: MagicalLove said: Racism is not only about hating a group of people because of how they look, it is also about paying attention to their skin in the first place. Acknowledging other races and our differences is not inherently racist. I have no problem with being recognised as a black woman. On the side note, I do agree with you that fetishising races for ones own sexual gratification is strange. I would hate to be reduce to someone's sexual fantasy lol It is not dangerous racism but it is racism. I don't look at my family and go, "this one's white" and "this one's Asian". It's like that one message I saw on Twitter where some lady complained that people get weirded out when she says "I'm married to an Asian man". She doesn't say "I'm married" or "I'm married to a man I love", she says "I'm married to an Asian man". That's what is causing the reaction, and yet she keeps doing it because that's the entire point. And I don't know her, she may or may not love that guy but you don't need to have a science license to know that she's into him because of that. For your information, I don't tolerate any of the "I talked to a girl today, yay" kind of thing. Again, we're all the same and love can happen with anyone. But the moment you start to see someone as just "man", "woman", "black" - that's wrong. As for your last sentences, it's pure objectification, and OP does the very same thing. On the good side, when people are open about those lust-driven desires, they make it easier to see their true face and that's a plus since that makes it easy to avoid them. By the way, I'm not exactly sure why do you have Adolf Hitler in your favorites and then you think it's okay for you to even say a thing about racism. He is responsible for numerous deaths of people and I don't see how joking about him being your "favorite person" is funny in any way. Death is not something to joke about. Yeah, the woman basically has a fetish because she's reducing the love for her husband to his race, which is wrong. Recognising his race is okay, but it was how she responds to that which is what makes it an issue. There's no reason for her to mention that he's Asian when it isn't necessary. However, me saying that acknowledging our differences wasn't a defence of that kind of behaviour. I'm just tired of people pulling the whole "I don't see colour" rhetoric. Yes you do, and there's nothing wrong with that lol. Diversity is a good thing. I agree with it being pure objectification. I never disagreed with this notion. Having Adolf filter in my favourites was just a mockery gesture and I did while I was studying Nazi Germany some time ago. Obviously I've grown up so I might as well change that. Again, you are failing to see that there is no difference between people. I am not looking at my family and think about their race or skin color, or nationality. If you do that, then you have a problem and you need to fix it. That will be my last message to you. Mate, stop using the example of your family. I've obviously adopted a different culture from you, I've have different experiences as a black woman from you, I look different from you. So no, we are not same. YES, we should be treated the same, we should have the same equal rights, but we're not a homogenous group of people. that would be boring, I like the fact that we have differences, simple. Jane Elliot is a great sociologist who dismantles the "I don't see colour" mentality that's actually harmful to minorities. You don't have to think about your family's race 24/7. If that's what you got out of what I've said then honestly, there's not much else I can say. |
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May 14, 2020 9:48 AM
#83
MagicalLove said: Picking up the mantra of being race-blind actually isn't that great. You need to first acknowledge that socially, race does exist before you talk about the oppression people of color face in the west. Turning a blind eye to it this way is a problem. Until you get others to agree with you where they want to abolish race as a social concept, you aren't doing any good by not personally sorting others by skin color or facial features. The first step should always be to acknowledge race so that important subjects can be talked about. I mean how can you talk about police brutality and unfair court rulings for blacks, if you don't first acknowledge that black people exist? Cinnamon_Pramma said: MagicalLove said: Xstasy said: Because catering to otaku fetishes is profitable, that is why there are so many anime that do that. There aren't that many that do it. If you go on "Ecchi" genre page, you'll see there's about 752 entries. About 1/3 of them are entries such as "Recap", "Special", "OVA" etc which are not stand-alone anime, then there's also the great number of "ecchi" that's not really "ecchi" but it just has a few jokes here and there. Like Punchline or Kill la Kill, though Kill la Kill is rather perverted. The number of lust-driven anime is not big at all and Japan isn't the land of perverts, as some sad children imagine it to be. Quite the opposite. Otaku stuff does sell, sadly, but it's just the correlation between low budget and low income that's still low but is seen as profitable because of the low budget. Show an anime about real problems and the anime that will make someone a better person but give it a low budget? You'll see "valid criticisms" from "anime conosseiurs". Show them something that resembles their fetish on a low budget? They'll go crazy and buy the blu-rays. Cinnamon_Pramma said: MagicalLove said: Racism is not only about hating a group of people because of how they look, it is also about paying attention to their skin in the first place. Acknowledging other races and our differences is not inherently racist. I have no problem with being recognised as a black woman. On the side note, I do agree with you that fetishising races for ones own sexual gratification is strange. I would hate to be reduce to someone's sexual fantasy lol It is not dangerous racism but it is racism. I don't look at my family and go, "this one's white" and "this one's Asian". It's like that one message I saw on Twitter where some lady complained that people get weirded out when she says "I'm married to an Asian man". She doesn't say "I'm married" or "I'm married to a man I love", she says "I'm married to an Asian man". That's what is causing the reaction, and yet she keeps doing it because that's the entire point. And I don't know her, she may or may not love that guy but you don't need to have a science license to know that she's into him because of that. For your information, I don't tolerate any of the "I talked to a girl today, yay" kind of thing. Again, we're all the same and love can happen with anyone. But the moment you start to see someone as just "man", "woman", "black" - that's wrong. As for your last sentences, it's pure objectification, and OP does the very same thing. On the good side, when people are open about those lust-driven desires, they make it easier to see their true face and that's a plus since that makes it easy to avoid them. By the way, I'm not exactly sure why do you have Adolf Hitler in your favorites and then you think it's okay for you to even say a thing about racism. He is responsible for numerous deaths of people and I don't see how joking about him being your "favorite person" is funny in any way. Death is not something to joke about. Yeah, the woman basically has a fetish because she's reducing the love for her husband to his race, which is wrong. Recognising his race is okay, but it was how she responds to that which is what makes it an issue. There's no reason for her to mention that he's Asian when it isn't necessary. However, me saying that acknowledging our differences wasn't a defence of that kind of behaviour. I'm just tired of people pulling the whole "I don't see colour" rhetoric. Yes you do, and there's nothing wrong with that lol. Diversity is a good thing. I agree with it being pure objectification. I never disagreed with this notion. Having Adolf filter in my favourites was just a mockery gesture and I did while I was studying Nazi Germany some time ago. Obviously I've grown up so I might as well change that. Again, you are failing to see that there is no difference between people. I am not looking at my family and think about their race or skin color, or nationality. If you do that, then you have a problem and you need to fix it. That will be my last message to you. |
May 14, 2020 12:10 PM
#84
As much as we like to deny it, Japan is quite xenophobic just in a polite way. Due to their mono-ethnicity, it would be a risk for an Anime to have one of it's main characters with appearance of another race that isn't their targeted demographic, since a majority of their population would find it unappealing or unrelatable. It is similar to western society, how many big action blockbusters do we have that star people of Asian, Arabian or African descent. Producers don't think it would be very relatable to their general audience. It may be a sad fact, but it is our reality unfortunately. |
removed-userMay 14, 2020 12:17 PM
May 14, 2020 1:01 PM
#85
CrimsonMidnight said: Sigh... I can't believe I got attacked over something like skin color in 2D drawings... someone sent me a message on discord, accusing me of being racist. I'm hurt. Mods you can close this thread now. Sorry for the unintended dramas. If you could do what you're doing to "2D" to real people and if there was no consequence, you would be doing it. You don't love these characters, all you want is to use them. All I'm going to say is that I am very happy that I don't know you in real life. Nothing is ever "just" something. There is a reason for everything we do and you should think very hard about your behavior, especially being at the age of 26 when you're supposed to act like an adult and not a spoiled child. Peaceful_Critic said: MagicalLove said: Picking up the mantra of being race-blind actually isn't that great. You need to first acknowledge that socially, race does exist before you talk about the oppression people of color face in the west. Turning a blind eye to it this way is a problem. Until you get others to agree with you where they want to abolish race as a social concept, you aren't doing any good by not personally sorting others by skin color or facial features. The first step should always be to acknowledge race so that important subjects can be talked about. I mean how can you talk about police brutality and unfair court rulings for blacks, if you don't first acknowledge that black people exist? Cinnamon_Pramma said: MagicalLove said: Xstasy said: Because catering to otaku fetishes is profitable, that is why there are so many anime that do that. There aren't that many that do it. If you go on "Ecchi" genre page, you'll see there's about 752 entries. About 1/3 of them are entries such as "Recap", "Special", "OVA" etc which are not stand-alone anime, then there's also the great number of "ecchi" that's not really "ecchi" but it just has a few jokes here and there. Like Punchline or Kill la Kill, though Kill la Kill is rather perverted. The number of lust-driven anime is not big at all and Japan isn't the land of perverts, as some sad children imagine it to be. Quite the opposite. Otaku stuff does sell, sadly, but it's just the correlation between low budget and low income that's still low but is seen as profitable because of the low budget. Show an anime about real problems and the anime that will make someone a better person but give it a low budget? You'll see "valid criticisms" from "anime conosseiurs". Show them something that resembles their fetish on a low budget? They'll go crazy and buy the blu-rays. Cinnamon_Pramma said: MagicalLove said: Racism is not only about hating a group of people because of how they look, it is also about paying attention to their skin in the first place. Acknowledging other races and our differences is not inherently racist. I have no problem with being recognised as a black woman. On the side note, I do agree with you that fetishising races for ones own sexual gratification is strange. I would hate to be reduce to someone's sexual fantasy lol It is not dangerous racism but it is racism. I don't look at my family and go, "this one's white" and "this one's Asian". It's like that one message I saw on Twitter where some lady complained that people get weirded out when she says "I'm married to an Asian man". She doesn't say "I'm married" or "I'm married to a man I love", she says "I'm married to an Asian man". That's what is causing the reaction, and yet she keeps doing it because that's the entire point. And I don't know her, she may or may not love that guy but you don't need to have a science license to know that she's into him because of that. For your information, I don't tolerate any of the "I talked to a girl today, yay" kind of thing. Again, we're all the same and love can happen with anyone. But the moment you start to see someone as just "man", "woman", "black" - that's wrong. As for your last sentences, it's pure objectification, and OP does the very same thing. On the good side, when people are open about those lust-driven desires, they make it easier to see their true face and that's a plus since that makes it easy to avoid them. By the way, I'm not exactly sure why do you have Adolf Hitler in your favorites and then you think it's okay for you to even say a thing about racism. He is responsible for numerous deaths of people and I don't see how joking about him being your "favorite person" is funny in any way. Death is not something to joke about. Yeah, the woman basically has a fetish because she's reducing the love for her husband to his race, which is wrong. Recognising his race is okay, but it was how she responds to that which is what makes it an issue. There's no reason for her to mention that he's Asian when it isn't necessary. However, me saying that acknowledging our differences wasn't a defence of that kind of behaviour. I'm just tired of people pulling the whole "I don't see colour" rhetoric. Yes you do, and there's nothing wrong with that lol. Diversity is a good thing. I agree with it being pure objectification. I never disagreed with this notion. Having Adolf filter in my favourites was just a mockery gesture and I did while I was studying Nazi Germany some time ago. Obviously I've grown up so I might as well change that. Again, you are failing to see that there is no difference between people. I am not looking at my family and think about their race or skin color, or nationality. If you do that, then you have a problem and you need to fix it. That will be my last message to you. Police brutality happens with everyone, not just black people. Do you really live in the world where only black people are affected by policy brutality? Look up the way things are in Russia and pretty much all Eastern Europe where police and army can do anything they want. Not mentioning USA where the same police brutality happens to white people, too, it's just that "white person was mistakenly assaulted by police" doesn't make a cool, striking headline that's going to give the website thousands of clicks and that won't stir up people who feel guilty towards black people. Life is where murder and police brutalty exist, it's a sad fact but it is a fact. I just don't understand why poilice brutality against black people is such a huge crime when the same thing against white people doesn't really make it to the headlines or doesn't bother you. It's the same crime and the same horrible act, no matter what race victim is. But I understand, you need to feel like the angel and to make yourself feel like you're not like "them". Have fun. Maybe if black people were trying to improve their image and take a break from posting messages about "smoking dope" and "picking hoes from the ghetto", calling each other "nigga" and overall behaving like thugs - yeah, maybe police would not be so keen to think they're the ones who are responsible for something bad. Go out and talk to random people: both life and internet. These stereotypes are real. I'm not even going to mention the rap music which is nothing but weird people dressed as criminals singing about "momma" and "hoes", and "da booty" if you can call rap music singing, of course. Search "10 most popular rap artists of all time" on google - you'll see nothing but tattoed guys with numerous rape and drug abuse charges who don't even try to improve their criminal-like looks. The only thing that needs to be acknowledged is that black people need to work on their image, I see white people working on being nice to everyone while fighting the racism but I don't see the same response. All I see is entitlement and bringing up topics of racism which are long gone now, topics of slavery which are even more long gone. There will always be idiots who make racist comments, just like there will be idiots who kill others. It's the same crime. There's no difference to it and racism is not worse than murder. So why are you pretending like it's the world's first problem? You're not the judge. The last thing I'll say is that I saw some of your other messages and you don't really seem like a lust-free person, so before you go on forums and try to prove something to someone - fix that. And no, using a character from Danganronpa to justify your behavior is not fixing it. That character has some severe problems and you have them, as well based on what I see. I am not saying to be color-blind, I am saying that race doesn't matter as long as people act normal and seek love, improve themselves and present a positive image. The behavior OP shows? It is not okay and they should be ashamed of themselves. |
removed-userMay 14, 2020 1:08 PM
May 14, 2020 1:13 PM
#86
MagicalLove said: She's not doing anything harmful to 2D characters. You also can't correctly conflate something that isn't real to something that is simply based on your ideology.CrimsonMidnight said: Sigh... I can't believe I got attacked over something like skin color in 2D drawings... someone sent me a message on discord, accusing me of being racist. I'm hurt. Mods you can close this thread now. Sorry for the unintended dramas. If you could do what you're doing to "2D" to real people and if there was no consequence, you would be doing it. You don't love these characters, all you want is to use them. All I'm going to say is that I am very happy that I don't know you in real life. Nothing is ever "just" something. There is a reason for everything we do and you should think very hard about your behavior, especially being at the age of 26 when you're supposed to act like an adult and not a spoiled child. Some things are just something. They're just fictional characters, nothing more nothing less. Grandstanding over things that aren't real says a lot more about you than what you think her thread says about her. Edit: MagicalLove said: After reading these posts specifically, it seems to me that you take your moral beliefs so seriously that you are blind to anything else, that you can't conceive of morality in other people. What you are preaching is exactly what color-blind is, there are differences physically and culturally between all races and denying that erodes peoples identity. We are not all the same, and your preaching to be normal is not the same as someone elses, same with love and especially with morals. These are yours and yours alone, don't push what you believe down other peoples throats because you are not the arbiter of morality, nobody is.Peaceful_Critic said: MagicalLove said: Cinnamon_Pramma said: MagicalLove said: Xstasy said: Because catering to otaku fetishes is profitable, that is why there are so many anime that do that. There aren't that many that do it. If you go on "Ecchi" genre page, you'll see there's about 752 entries. About 1/3 of them are entries such as "Recap", "Special", "OVA" etc which are not stand-alone anime, then there's also the great number of "ecchi" that's not really "ecchi" but it just has a few jokes here and there. Like Punchline or Kill la Kill, though Kill la Kill is rather perverted. The number of lust-driven anime is not big at all and Japan isn't the land of perverts, as some sad children imagine it to be. Quite the opposite. Otaku stuff does sell, sadly, but it's just the correlation between low budget and low income that's still low but is seen as profitable because of the low budget. Show an anime about real problems and the anime that will make someone a better person but give it a low budget? You'll see "valid criticisms" from "anime conosseiurs". Show them something that resembles their fetish on a low budget? They'll go crazy and buy the blu-rays. Cinnamon_Pramma said: MagicalLove said: Racism is not only about hating a group of people because of how they look, it is also about paying attention to their skin in the first place. Acknowledging other races and our differences is not inherently racist. I have no problem with being recognised as a black woman. On the side note, I do agree with you that fetishising races for ones own sexual gratification is strange. I would hate to be reduce to someone's sexual fantasy lol It is not dangerous racism but it is racism. I don't look at my family and go, "this one's white" and "this one's Asian". It's like that one message I saw on Twitter where some lady complained that people get weirded out when she says "I'm married to an Asian man". She doesn't say "I'm married" or "I'm married to a man I love", she says "I'm married to an Asian man". That's what is causing the reaction, and yet she keeps doing it because that's the entire point. And I don't know her, she may or may not love that guy but you don't need to have a science license to know that she's into him because of that. For your information, I don't tolerate any of the "I talked to a girl today, yay" kind of thing. Again, we're all the same and love can happen with anyone. But the moment you start to see someone as just "man", "woman", "black" - that's wrong. As for your last sentences, it's pure objectification, and OP does the very same thing. On the good side, when people are open about those lust-driven desires, they make it easier to see their true face and that's a plus since that makes it easy to avoid them. By the way, I'm not exactly sure why do you have Adolf Hitler in your favorites and then you think it's okay for you to even say a thing about racism. He is responsible for numerous deaths of people and I don't see how joking about him being your "favorite person" is funny in any way. Death is not something to joke about. Yeah, the woman basically has a fetish because she's reducing the love for her husband to his race, which is wrong. Recognising his race is okay, but it was how she responds to that which is what makes it an issue. There's no reason for her to mention that he's Asian when it isn't necessary. However, me saying that acknowledging our differences wasn't a defence of that kind of behaviour. I'm just tired of people pulling the whole "I don't see colour" rhetoric. Yes you do, and there's nothing wrong with that lol. Diversity is a good thing. I agree with it being pure objectification. I never disagreed with this notion. Having Adolf filter in my favourites was just a mockery gesture and I did while I was studying Nazi Germany some time ago. Obviously I've grown up so I might as well change that. Again, you are failing to see that there is no difference between people. I am not looking at my family and think about their race or skin color, or nationality. If you do that, then you have a problem and you need to fix it. That will be my last message to you. Police brutality happens with everyone, not just black people. Do you really live in the world where only black people are affected by policy brutality? Look up the way things are in Russia and pretty much all Eastern Europe where police and army can do anything they want. Not mentioning USA where the same police brutality happens to white people, too, it's just that "white person was mistakenly assaulted by police" doesn't make a cool, striking headline that's going to give the website thousands of clicks and that won't stir up people who feel guilty towards black people. Life is where murder and police brutalty exist, it's a sad fact but it is a fact. I just don't understand why poilice brutality against black people is such a huge crime when the same thing against white people doesn't really make it to the headlines or doesn't bother you. It's the same crime and the same horrible act, no matter what race victim is. But I understand, you need to feel like the angel and to make yourself feel like you're not like "them". Have fun. Maybe if black people were trying to improve their image and take a break from posting messages about "smoking dope" and "picking hoes from the ghetto", calling each other "nigga" and overall behaving like thugs - yeah, maybe police would not be so keen to think they're the ones who are responsible for something bad. Go out and talk to random people: both life and internet. These stereotypes are real. I'm not even going to mention the rap music which is nothing but weird people dressed as criminals singing about "momma" and "hoes", and "da booty" if you can call rap music singing, of course. Search "10 most popular rap artists of all time" on google - you'll see nothing but tattoed guys with numerous rape and drug abuse charges who don't even try to improve their criminal-like looks. The only thing that needs to be acknowledged is that black people need to work on their image, I see white people working on being nice to everyone while fighting the racism but I don't see the same response. All I see is entitlement and bringing up topics of racism which are long gone now, topics of slavery which are even more long gone. There will always be idiots who make racist comments, just like there will be idiots who kill others. It's the same crime. There's no difference to it and racism is not worse than murder. So why are you pretending like it's the world's first problem? You're not the judge. The last thing I'll say is that I saw some of your other messages and you don't really seem like a lust-free person, so before you go on forums and try to prove something to someone - fix that. And no, using a character from Danganronpa to justify your behavior is not fixing it. That character has some severe problems and you have them, as well based on what I see. I am not saying to be color-blind, I am saying that race doesn't matter as long as people act normal and seek love, improve themselves and present a positive image. The behavior OP shows? It is not okay and they should be ashamed of themselves. Something you also don't seem to understand is that differences and/or sexual preferences existing has nothing to do with prejudice or discrimination, and acknowledging them doesn't make it racist. |
LunilahMay 14, 2020 1:50 PM
May 14, 2020 2:19 PM
#87
@MagicalLove Police brutality happens with everyone, not just black people. Do you really live in the world where only black people are affected by policy brutality? Look up the way things are in Russia and pretty much all Eastern Europe where police and army can do anything they want. Not mentioning USA where the same police brutality happens to white people, too, it's just that "white person was mistakenly assaulted by police" doesn't make a cool, striking headline that's going to give the website thousands of clicks and that won't stir up people who feel guilty towards black people. Life is where murder and police brutalty exist, it's a sad fact but it is a fact. I just don't understand why poilice brutality against black people is such a huge crime when the same thing against white people doesn't really make it to the headlines or doesn't bother you. It's the same crime and the same horrible act, no matter what race victim is. But I understand, you need to feel like the angel and to make yourself feel like you're not like "them". Have fun. It's kind of dispositionally a black problem more than a white one("On non-lethal uses of force, blacks and Hispanics are more than fifty percent more likely to experience some form of force in interactions with police.") but go off I guess and I assume I meant that white people NEVER face police brutality and how I don't care if it happens to white people Maybe if black people were trying to improve their image and take a break from posting messages about "smoking dope" and "picking hoes from the ghetto", calling each other "nigga" and overall behaving like thugs - yeah, maybe police would not be so keen to think they're the ones who are responsible for something bad. Go out and talk to random people: both life and internet. These stereotypes are real. Those are thug behaviors? Are weed and pick-up culture really that thug-like to you? I don't really associate those things with it at all as the latter isn't criminal behavior and the former is self-harming at worst(not to mention popular with a lot of non-criminals). Saying the n-word is thug-like is even stupider than the previous two. You seem to think black culture, language, and clothing is thug-like for some reason. I mean I know there is a section of black culture that promotes the thug life, but I don't think that's most black people.I'm not even going to mention the rap music which is nothing but weird people dressed as criminals singing about "momma" and "hoes", and "da booty" if you can call rap music singing, of course. Search "10 most popular rap artists of all time" on google - you'll see nothing but tattoed guys with numerous rape and drug abuse charges who don't even try to improve their criminal-like looks. Idk, rap music can be really good, and it's actually usually harder to sing because of how fast-paced it can be. Also, aren't criminal charges quite common among artists in general? The only thing that needs to be acknowledged is that black people need to work on their image, I see white people working on being nice to everyone while fighting the racism but I don't see the same response. All I see is entitlement and bringing up topics of racism which are long gone now, topics of slavery which are even more long gone. Yikes!But the past effects the present. The reason why so many black people are in poverty is because of Levittowns and segregation being recent enough(like 50/60 years) and America not having much mobility when it comes to getting richer. It's also important to note that racist ideas don't just magically go away because racist policies aren't here anymore. People still think of blacks as criminals and aggressors to this day and that thought process is still present enough that police and judges are acting based upon it(as I showed you with the statistic above). There will always be idiots who make racist comments, just like there will be idiots who kill others. It's the same crime. There's no difference to it and racism is not worse than murder. So why are you pretending like it's the world's first problem? You're not the judge. Is that whataboutism I smell? The last thing I'll say is that I saw some of your other messages and you don't really seem like a lust-free person, so before you go on forums and try to prove something to someone - fix that. And no, using a character from Danganronpa to justify your behavior is not fixing it. That character has some severe problems and you have them, as well based on what I see. I apologize for having a sex drive, I know I should be burned at the stake for it. Also, you are like the 2nd person who used best DR Trigger Havoc girl as a way to insult me and say how I am a sexual deviant of some kind. See:"the combination of your avatar and the things you say - you seem extremely insecure. And the reason why you are bothered by "stereotypes" and "racism" is because you are sexually attracted to black people or any interracial stuff. You should be ashamed of yourself for not treating these thoughts and attractions for what they are - a sexual disorder. You can do what you want but remember that you are only hurting yourself with that. And people like me? We can see through you and you can't fool anybody with this "oh so honest" worrying about stereotypes and racism." It was on the same topic too! If I didn't know any better I would say you two might be the same person. The other guy got deleted though. I am not saying to be color-blind, I am saying that race doesn't matter as long as people act normal and seek love, improve themselves and present a positive image. Well, if that wasn't the message you were trying to send then I won't contend and say that was what you meant. There would be no point in that and that conversation wouldn't be interesting. |
May 14, 2020 2:28 PM
#88
23:59 - 'stop fetishizing blacks, I don't see color, you racist' 0:00 - 'if only blacks weren't acting all gangsta and rapping about booty, police wouldn't go hard on their asses, it's just the truth' What an uninspired attempt at trolling, shameful. |
May 14, 2020 2:29 PM
#89
i wish there where more of those it would give it more variety |
May 14, 2020 9:11 PM
#90
Yeah, there's not many of them...though, Gin from Assassin's Pride definitely caught my eye; he is FYNE. :>![]() He's got the dark skin/white hair combo you love. xD GREEN EYES TOO. *fangirls* MagicalLove said: Nothing is ever "just" something. There is a reason for everything we do and you should think very hard about your behavior, especially being at the age of 26 when you're supposed to act like an adult and not a spoiled child. Holy crap, MagicalLove, you need to take a goddamn chill pill. OP did nothing wrong. She is NOT racist; she is only talking about what she finds 'aesthetically pleasing' in character design, for f*ck's sake.....and she likes white hair with dark skin; you realize this describes no real human ever? Stop trying to police her harmless preferences! It's because of people like YOU, we cannot innocently enjoy things. |
May 15, 2020 4:34 AM
#91
Thread Locked While the initial post wasn't a controversial topic, it's pretty obvious from the posts on the second page that we're heading towards some kind of racial debate. Anime Discussion Rules 5: Please refrain from posting thread topics which extend beyond the discussion of anime/manga as an entertainment medium to highly-debated social and/or moral issues. This includes but is not limited to: pedophilia, gender/racial equality, sexual orientation, etc. |
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