Do mods care about this site at all?

DeathTheKid4 said:
If all it takes is one youtuber to encourage his/her fanbase to upvote/downvote an anime/manga to mess the ratings and scores, and nothing is done about it, all I can do is just ask: Do mods care about this site at all? Is this acceptable in their eyes? Shouldn't they be thinking right now of ways to stop this kind of behaviour? You are losing more credibility every day that passes..

ooReiko said:
You should check out this.

https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=245618&show=4750#msg59087935

Fapper said:


People have a free will and I don't see anything wrong with that.
Anytime some anituber makes a video people are gonna be influence by it anyway so what difference does this make.
You are just jealous of this anime success.

Short_Circut said:
Wait this whole brigade was done by an anituber? Which one lol

Lisetto said:
I find it funny how something shooting up in score "mess with ratings and scores" as if they're some set-in-stone and end-all-be-all truth.

DeathTheKid4 said:
If all it takes is one youtuber to encourage his/her fanbase to upvote/downvote an anime/manga to mess the ratings and scores, and nothing is done about it, all I can do is just ask: Do mods care about this site at all? Is this acceptable in their eyes? Shouldn't they be thinking right now of ways to stop this kind of behaviour? You are losing more credibility every day that passes..

rogiedog said:

Tell me exactly what rule was broken? Show me where in the Terms of Service it says that someone (a legitimate person not a bot) cannot voice their opinion and rate a show 10/10.

DeathTheKid4 said:


Dude, the mods already know that a huge number of accounts were created to rate this 10/10 and will adress it. It's not against the rules per se, but it's still wrong because the scores are artificially changed. Hopefully by the end of February it will be fixed and people will find it harder to do shit like this

DeathTheKid4 said:


It's a fabricated success lol. It had 7,5 score before. And no sane anituber ever said: go upvote/downvote that specific show. Anitubers recommend or bash anime if they are right in their heads. This nux dude isn't. It isn't even MAL's fault. The war is between Funimation and Ishuzoku Reviewers fans. MAL shouldn't have been dragged in this. Your reasoning is plain wrong.

DeathTheKid4 said:
it's still wrong because the scores are artificially changed.

rogiedog said:

The mods and devs are idiots. Again MAL as a website is a business. The increased traffic to the site with all the new accounts is financially a good thing because it increases revenue through the ads. As long as the new users are not violating Terms of Service, then no sorry they are doing absolutely nothing wrong. As literally so many people have said this doesn’t affect you any way. Please tell me how IR being number 2, or hell number 1 if it makes it there, affect you. Does it someone emotionally distraught you or physically hurt you in some way? Or could it simply be that you cannot stand to see a show that you typically don’t watch, or maybe don’t like, being highly rated?

Btw they haven’t been artificially changed. That would imply that the users voting are bots, and if some are then they should be removed, but the vast majority are real people who have ever right to vote however they feel.

rogiedog said:

The mods and devs are idiots. Again MAL as a website is a business. The increased traffic to the site with all the new accounts is financially a good thing because it increases revenue through the ads. As long as the new users are not violating Terms of Service, then no sorry they are doing absolutely nothing wrong. As literally so many people have said this doesn’t affect you any way. Please tell me how IR being number 2, or hell number 1 if it makes it there, affect you. Does it someone emotionally distraught you or physically hurt you in some way? Or could it simply be that you cannot stand to see a show that you typically don’t watch, or maybe don’t like, being highly rated?

Btw they haven’t been artificially changed. That would imply that the users voting are bots, and if some are then they should be removed, but the vast majority are real people who have ever right to vote however they feel.

EratiK said:
Wish MAL would take the easy route and just disable rating (and reviews) while shows are still airing. Then we'd have 12 weeks of peace every season and by the time the season is over hype-mongerers have simply stopped caring.

FullyCharged said:
Imagine being sad like this...

DeathTheKid4 said:
That could be a good idea but I don't think it will resolve big problems like this in the long run.

DeathTheKid4 said:


I'm not sure if you don't think before you write all this nonsense so I'll give you an example to see why it's artificially changed. Let's take the Oscars as an example. For Oscars there are a number of people that get selected to vote each year. What happens if randomly 10000 people that have no business there but all like 1 particular movie get the right to vote? They artificially change the result. It's the same here. A new account rating only a show is the same as a bot/fake account rating only a show. It's still 1 rating/1 show made to change the scores. It doesn't matter if one is a human being and the other is a bot, the scores still change, and the method is still the same.

iori-nori said:



Sure take out the bots, it's not like legitimate voters can't vote in the future. And also, don't try to speak for all anime fans,it's a good show, some might enjoy it some might not. So what and to vote is their choice,sure the anituber
give exposure to the anime, and im one of those people who watch it afterwards and i find it to be an interesting show, and i would like to give it 10/10. You might argue "well some of them doesn't even watch the show" how would you know by that? find them then, remove their rating and maybe ask them to watch the show first before they can start voting it, don't make try to generalised all anime fans.
That's all, thank you, plus ultra!

DeathTheKid4 said:
it's wrong for people who don't have anything to do with said subject to suddenly change the results of something just because someone told them to.

rogiedog said:

Thats quite possibly the worst analogy you could use and actually proves my point further. Let me explain why, the Oscars is voted on by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Science which is PRIVATE organization you have to be accepted into. The voting is done each year knowing that everyone in said Academy takes their jobs quite serious. This on the other hand is a public voting, or democracy, where each and every person gets one vote regardless of their standing, as long as I have said before they are a real person. How they choose to vote is completely up to them, not you or the devs. Once again as long as they are not violating any Terms of Services they are doing nothing wrong. But yes I’m clearly the one who doesn’t actually think before posting.

DeathTheKid4 said:

Also I still fail to see why MAL had to be dragged into the war of Funimation and Nux and his sheep. Couldn't he have done something else? MAL is a third party here, they aren't at fault for Funimation dropping IR, yet they have to suffer this damage to their credibility just because a lunatic has access to internet and has sheep following him.

DeathTheKid4 said:


The point wasn't that one is private and one is public lmao. The point was that it's wrong for people who don't have anything to do with said subject to suddenly change the results of something just because someone told them to.

Sarteck said:

And what if it's because they liked it?

lezerman said:

Sure, they watched all episodes, even the ones that haven't aired yet(???), and genuinely loved it.

Yeah, I can see it happening.

rogiedog said:

I don't know about the youtuber who recommended the show, but I'm pretty sure anyone who watches his/her channel watches anime. Meaning they do have something to do with the topic because they are an anime watcher. As an anime watcher they came to an anime rating website and rated a show. So again not really seeing any point you're trying to prove other than that because they rated a show high that you may not particularly like that their votes should not count. Bot voting is an actual problem the mods and admins should be concerned with and deal with. Not actual people visiting their website and expressing their opinion by rating a show.

Sarteck said:


They are not "suffering damage."
They are getting a huge influx of new users, and then those new users are being told "you're bad because you like this anime."

Sarteck said:


They are not "suffering damage."
They are getting a huge influx of new users, and then those new users are being told "you're bad because you like this anime."

DeathTheKid4 said:


Well they are suffering damage because these new users don't contribute to anything in the long run, they just entered, made an account, fucked the rating of the site, and left. Meanwhile people who were before for a longer time, will just see this as a problem for MAL because loss of credibility is always a bad thing.

Sarteck said:
Sure, they all claimed to watch 12 episodes.

Now instead of your strawman, answer the question. What about people like me, who didn't know about the anime at all until nux posted his video?

Is it "wrong" for me to have rated it 10?

Get bent.

Sarteck said:
Sure, they all claimed to watch 12 episodes.

Now instead of your strawman, answer the question. What about people like me, who didn't know about the anime at all until nux posted his video?

Is it "wrong" for me to have rated it 10?

Get bent.

lezerman said:

No problem with you at all, I'm glad you liked the anime.

DeathTheKid4 said:



Also I still fail to see why MAL had to be dragged into the war of Funimation and Nux and his sheep. Couldn't he have done something else? MAL is a third party here, they aren't at fault for Funimation dropping IR, yet they have to suffer this damage to their credibility just because a lunatic has access to internet and has sheep following him.

FMmatron said:
At first I thought it would be funny to just take down the whole entry, but who knows what the angry mob would do next.

DeathTheKid4 said:


If you entered here to rate a 10/10 just because someone told you to, then yeah that's pretty wrong, that means you're a sheep. There is a BIG difference between recommending something and aggressively sharing the idea that we all should rate it a 10/10 on a THIRD PARTY site that doesn't have anything to do with the whole situation to make a "statement".

Sarteck said:
I did specifically ask about people that watched it and liked it, and your response indicated you didn't think that was a possibility because some users claimed 12 episodes.

lezerman said:

Sure, they watched all episodes, even the ones that haven't aired yet(???), and genuinely loved it.

Yeah, I can see it happening.

rogiedog said:

What are you even going on about?? MAL is an anime rating website. People came to their website and rated a particular anime how they wanted. MAL wasn't hurt in the process, their "creditability" was not hurt. If anything they were actually helped with the increase in revenue because the large influx of traffic to their site. Case and point Warcraft 3 Reforged. The fans of the game went on to Metacritic and voted it terribly making it I believe the worst rated game on the site. Are you trying to tell me Metacritic was hurt or offended by this or some how hurt their "creditability"? Do you really think anyone in the gaming community who doesn't play Warcraft even cares about the rating whatsoever?

And I really have to ask what creditability are you even talking about and to who exactly? To advertisers? Yeah this actually help them as I've previously mentioned in that department. To new users? If someone comes to MAL as a new users I'm pretty sure they are new to anime in general and because of that have absolutely no notion of what is "good". They can then watch what ever they feel and rate it as they see fit like everyone else on the website.

DeathTheKid4 said:


That's the freaking problem. That anituber didn't recommend the show. He straight up started telling people to go to MAL and rate it 10/10, making a video on youtube and countless tweets. That's not a recommendation, that's a mass movement lmao.

DeathTheKid4 said:


Some Nux Taku guy. He's an annoying af youtuber anyway, but I didn't think he was straight up an idiot.