The Saga of Tanya the Evil (light novel)
| Like how she constantly breaks formation, rushes in, puts her comrades in danger and nobody seems to care about that. And at the end where she got stabbed and shot multiple times and still surviving and holding conversations anime logic haha |
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PzKpfw_VI_Tiger said: Like how she constantly breaks formation, rushes in, puts her comrades in danger and nobody seems to care about that. And at the end where she got stabbed and shot multiple times and still surviving and holding conversations anime logic haha Her surviving after getting stabbed then shot mutiple times and still holding a conversation is not illogical in this series. To begin with this series has magic involved and on top of that she has special powers given to her by Being X/God. Also she wasn't shot on any vitals too. So theres nothing to laugh about that. |
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| Yeah she was the focus of the movie and I found her to be a generally uninteresting character |
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| My issue was just the way she looked. In the light novel art she looked really cool, but in the anime version....nah. Her hair style is awful. |
| I thought Mary was supposed to be portrayed as a vengeful, annoying edgy 'shit' in the anime.In other words you should be asking if anyone actually did not mind her so much. Maybe I'm wrong but the whole point of that character was to be hated by the audience(or so it seems to me). I say that because the anime is based from the POV of Tanya whose character and goals are the exact opposite of someone like Mary. |
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MegamiRem said: PzKpfw_VI_Tiger said: Like how she constantly breaks formation, rushes in, puts her comrades in danger and nobody seems to care about that. And at the end where she got stabbed and shot multiple times and still surviving and holding conversations anime logic haha Her surviving after getting stabbed then shot mutiple times and still holding a conversation is not illogical in this series. To begin with this series has magic involved and on top of that she has special powers given to her by Being X/God. Also she wasn't shot on any vitals too. So theres nothing to laugh about that. Nah. It 100% is. She didn't have the glowly god eyes, nor magic. Her tool was broken. She got shot in the sternum, right in the esophagus, trachea, and lungs. She 100% should have been dead and it was 100% bullshit for her to live, let alone talk, after that scene. All the bullets except the first went through and through. This is beyond plot armor, and is just straight up bullshit. Not shot in vitals my fucking ass. She'd have no lungs after that scene and probably no throat. |
YautjaSep 19, 2019 5:16 PM
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| I love Mary. She is cute and best villain so far in this anime |
| i didn't really mind, but I'm having trouble trying to come up what the point of her character even was. A little self-reflection for Tanya? I guess for the short 20 seconds that the movie goes over it... :p I was actually wondering how interesting it would be if Tanya actually ended up capturing her, or even just the possibilities you could explore in having Tanya outright kill someone who seems to have a parallel access to whateverthefuckbeingx's blessing |
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| Yeah i hated her. She was the type of character "Oh someone's killed my dad, so i have to go full berserk despite it's wrong and not healthy against someone who is clearly stronger than me and i might kill someone who i shouldn't" stereotype. We've seen like her a lot in anime and they all are obnoxious. Plust that "Entity x" ex-machina is becoming a bit annoying. They should add something else rather than giving us the same fucking stuff. Christ. |
| Idk anymore... To me, she already died twice... curse you beingx ... why do you keep reviving the poor girl and send her into battle aaaa |
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| She is a fair representation of Being X's will, somehow. Like she appears as an angel on the movie official illustration, contrasting Tanya, who's being considered AND explicitely called as a demon. Without her presence, the origin of this story (punishment for doubting God's existence) would be lost in the movie. Luckily enough there wasn't any scenes with Tanya talking directly to him so the minimum remained to bring something directly related to him, aka a character owning his will & power. |
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| Didn't her fathers empire, attack the empire? or tresspass in their lands? why get angry at people defending their countries, from communist rapists? I think she exists soley to annoy rational thinkers. |
ThatUndeadLegacyOct 6, 2019 11:29 AM
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Otorez said: She is a fair representation of Being X's will, somehow. Like she appears as an angel on the movie official illustration, contrasting Tanya, who's being considered AND explicitly called as a demon. Without her presence, the origin of this story (punishment for doubting God's existence) would be lost in the movie. Luckily enough there wasn't any scenes with Tanya talking directly to him so the minimum remained to bring something directly related to him, aka a character owning his will & power. Mary Sue is the daughter of Anson Sioux (Sue). The guy who 1st showed up in episode 2 while Tanya was patrolling the border & most of his men got wrecked in Tanya's spotting mission. He then shows up later, after Mary gifts him the rifle, to defend the port town that was strategic to the Empire. Tanya & friends once again wreck Anson's men. Anson himself nearly receives a mortal wound & Tanya takes his better then her's rifle. It is a nice rifle. Automatic too. Then finally for the last time Anson joins one of the 1st multinational groups but is using a gun banned by treaties. (looks like a shotgun) basically Anson who should be a good guy has turned in to a villain at this point. Also Tanya finally starts to somewhat feel despair as Being X has hoped, but Tanya superior scientific mind still wins out. Now we have Mary Sue (Sioux) joining the fight. I think she's meant to be the other side of Tanya's coin. The radical religious zealot. If Tanya is a bad for being overly logical then Mary is a bad whatever religion she's suppose to represent. But yeah, she's annoying as fuck & self centered |
| Oh thank the anime gods, I thought I was the only one. I was grating my teeth the entire time she was full of her bloody sense of justice! I also agree on the exit wounds, I've reviewed that scene, she shot her seven times at point-blank range. The first shot in the sternum didn't seem to had an exit wound, maybe her computational jewel blunted some of the bullet's kinetic energy when it shattered and the bullet or fragments of it could be in her heart or very near it, the rest of her shots clearly had exit wounds. I thought she should be bleeding all over because of all the said exit wounds, not mention drowning in her blood if one of her lungs was punctured. Ah well, anime logic! |
| You see there's no need to wonder where your god is, Coz he's right here! ...and he's fresh out of mercy. |
| I think her name: Mary Sue, is a correct one, lol. It's something I thought of as an easter egg, because she is literally like infamous Mary Sue known from our popculture. Overpowered, with special rights (like breaking formations without much consequences) and with strange ability to endure a lot of wounds that should've been fatal. Her lust for vengeance is the only thing I liked in Mary in this movie. Her beautiful hair was cut off unfortunatelly, but I don't see a reason to have those braids. She could've looked more like a soldier without cutting her hair (vide Viktoriya). |
Only bullets that are powerful enough tear up your insides. Most pistol calibers don't have enough energy to overcome elasticity of human tissue, especially when shooting FMJ bullets, which waste a lot of their energy by overpenetrating. That's why hollow points were invented: to increase the hole diameter, increase bleeding and allow the bullet to "dump" all it's energy in the target. Then you have the issue that Tanya is shooting C96, most likely one in 7,62 caliber. 9mm C96 have nice, red "9" on the grip. There is plenty of attention to detail when it comes to guns in this show, so would expect the 9 to be there. Small calibers in pistols tend to perform even worse (that's why 9mm Parabellum became a thing), you need energies achievable only in rifles for such small bullets to have proper effect on humans. Don't get me wrong, any pistol caliber will f*** you up without proper and swift medical attention, but shot placement (heart or brain) is needed for instant kills. Mary was instantly recovered and i assume her commander took her to field hospital or something. Then it is established from 2nd episode in the series that Tanya's world has pretty good medical care, she literally survived blowing herself up (books elaborate on that btw, show could have used a line of dialogue tbh). And then you have it in the name of the character: Mary Sue. The name is not accidental. And she is supposed to be annoying. Assuming continuation will stay somewhat faithful to the books in representing her, you will start wondering why her commander won't just shoot her on the spot. |
HyoukaYukikazeJan 2, 2020 12:35 PM
| Mhhh this is perfectly fits the monologue Tanya had with Rerugen, Mary embodies the "human" side of being human specifically her desire to have revenge... The fact that she has Being X's blessing is basically the downside... Frankly speaking, I think she had too much... I found it quite laughable that the number of bullets pierced in her body still couldnt kill her so might as well throw a nuke while you're at it... I think she'll play more part after the fact of their last encounter. I do hope tho that she's more refined... It'd be a blunder if she as a character, became the same as she is the more she get screentime... since I do not wish a protagonist to be this... childish and unrefined. |
| She is named Mary Sioux because she is a Mary Sue character and those are usually awful. |
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| I found her point of being really interesting since she basically became a war rival to Tanya, especially being highly gifted at magic. The main problem though. She was still a rookie...ignoring orders and abandoning formations and somehow even giving Tanya's elite squad (insane training and hours of front line experience) a tough time. She highlighted the fact that her desire for revenge turned her into the demon she swore to destroy (because of course God has to be on her side and against the Empire), even seeming to be more reckless and dangerous than Tanya herself. While her survival doesn't annoy me per say (gives the looming enemy returning feeling), as stated multiple times by others, the way in which she survives is beyond plot armour bullshit! She should have been at death's door, with a faint glow to indicate Being X was barely keeping her alive until serious medical treatment could be given. She had a knife near-hilt deep between her shoulderblades, shot right in the fucking throat, and several bullets definitely piercing both lungs! She should have been coughing blood and struggling to make a sound, but no. She somehow talks to her CO without an ounce of effort as he carries her away from battle. Mary Sue by name, Mary Sue by pure fucking bullshit nature! :P |
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